The C-Verse Rerender Project: 3rd Strike

[Wheelz316]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Asaemon" data-cite="Asaemon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><span>http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee489/asaemon/TEW%20Alts/Angel%20Of%20Mercy_alt1.jpg</span><p> </p><p> <strong>Angel Of Mercy</strong></p></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This one is amazing!</p>

[Iceisle]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shipshirt" data-cite="shipshirt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just saw the Nicolas Lopez ask. It looks like Ewanite has got it covered! I had done this one before but I'm not sure if it ever got uploaded. London did a pretty great one as well:<p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Nicolas%20Lopez.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Nicolas%20Lopez.jpg</span></a> </p></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nice! I'd never seen this one before. I must have somehow missed London's as well, because until ewanite posted his, I was still rolling with the original render. Can't imagine I would've chosen that over anything the three of you would post these days, with all due respect to the render artist. Whoever it was, I'm sure I'd say the same about their more recent work. The whole render game has advanced to such an insane extent.</p><p> </p><p> Now I honestly don't know which to choose, which is a good problem to have. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Thanks, all of you.</p>

[Stennick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shipshirt" data-cite="shipshirt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just saw the Nicolas Lopez ask. It looks like Ewanite has got it covered! I had done this one before but I'm not sure if it ever got uploaded. London did a pretty great one as well:<p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Nicolas%20Lopez.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Nicolas%20Lopez.jpg</span></a> </p></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Man Ship I love how much character is in every render of yours. This guy just screams with character this is awesome.</p>

[Guest Asaemon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Wheelz316" data-cite="Wheelz316" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This one is amazing!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks, the basic one with just light blue felt a little boring and it felt that something was missing.</p>

[Guest Asaemon]

<p>Devilfish</p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><span>http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee489/asaemon/TEW%20Alts/Devilfish.jpg</span><span>http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee489/asaemon/TEW%20Alts/Devilfish_alt1.jpg</span><span>http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee489/asaemon/TEW%20Alts/Devilfish_alt2.jpg</span><span>http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee489/asaemon/TEW%20Alts/Devilfish_alt3.jpg</span><p> </p><p>

<strong>Devilfish</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<em>Two different styles for Devilfish.</em></p></div><p></p><p></p>

[willr0ck]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Asaemon" data-cite="Asaemon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Great renders willr0ck. I especially like Gidayu Katou, he really needed a new fresh look.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Asaemon" data-cite="Asaemon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><span>http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee489/asaemon/TEW%20Alts/Calavera_1.jpg</span><span>http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee489/asaemon/TEW%20Alts/Calavera_alt1.jpg</span><p> </p><p> <strong>Calavera</strong></p></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>These are badass, great job on them.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Poor Border Patrol is not going to be able to breathe in that mask.<img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Thanks guys, glad you like them.</p><p> </p><p> Asaemon, that mask is insanely awesome!</p>

[willr0ck]

<p>Motoyuki Miyake</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Motoyuki%20Miyake.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Motoyuki%20Miyake.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p>

And a new look for Coulrophobia...not sure how I feel about these, but that might be because Clowns really give me the creeps.</p><p> </p><p>

Hellech</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Hellech.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Hellech.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p>

Pierrot</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Pierrot.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Pierrot.jpg</span></a></p>

[drmacbeth]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="willr0ck" data-cite="willr0ck" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Motoyuki Miyake<p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Motoyuki%20Miyake.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Motoyuki%20Miyake.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> And a new look for Coulrophobia...not sure how I feel about these, but that might be because Clowns really give me the creeps.</p><p> </p><p> Hellech</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Hellech.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Hellech.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> Pierrot</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Pierrot.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Pierrot.jpg</span></a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Love all three of these.</p><p> </p><p> Miyake is an almost automatic sign when playing one of the smaller Japanese feds.</p><p> </p><p> Hellech in particular is just - disturbing.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="willr0ck" data-cite="willr0ck" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Motoyuki Miyake<p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Motoyuki%20Miyake.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Motoyuki%20Miyake.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> And a new look for Coulrophobia...not sure how I feel about these, but that might be because Clowns really give me the creeps.</p><p> </p><p> Hellech</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Hellech.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Hellech.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> Pierrot</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Pierrot.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Pierrot.jpg</span></a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> I have no words for how awesome these Pierrot and Hellech renders are.</p>

[Guest Asaemon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="willr0ck" data-cite="willr0ck" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And a new look for Coulrophobia...not sure how I feel about these, but that might be because Clowns really give me the creeps.</div></blockquote><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p> Those are awesome, now the clowns look creepy like they should.</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:10px;"> "Ladies and Gentlemen! Welcome - to the Freak Show!"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:10px;"> "Welcome to Fiendish Freddy's Big Top O' Fun!"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:10px;"> "Are you ready for some Good Friendly Violent Fun?"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:10px;"> "Send in the clowns and let the fun begin!"</span></span></p></div><p></p><p></p>

[d12345]

Anybody have an updated Trent Shaffer from USPW?

[shipshirt]

<p>WillR0ck, those are amazing! What the heck did you use for the clown renders, they are so detailed and great. The Miyaki is terrific too, I really like that new lighting. The shadows give it a lot more depth.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anybody have an updated Trent Shaffer from USPW?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I did this one before. Check the other forums (2010 and 2013) or the Cverse tag list at the beginning of this thread</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/TrentShaffer_alt_zps2c1f5c87.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/TrentShaffer_alt_zps2c1f5c87.jpg</span></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/TrentShaffer_zps5cd386b8.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/TrentShaffer_zps5cd386b8.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Man Ship I love how much character is in every render of yours. This guy just screams with character this is awesome.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks man! For me, a huge part of the renders is the facial expression as much as it is making the character look like the original. I try to vary the expressions (as well as the skins) to make each one have "something to say".</p>

[Blackman]

<p>I was trying to render <strong>Fuyuko Higa</strong> for use in WMMA4 and I thought I might as well convert it to TEW format. Tried to keep it true to the original render.</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd364/Marginal0/TEW/GIF/Fuyuko%20Higa_1.gif</span><span>http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd364/Marginal0/TEW/GIF/Fuyuko.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shipshirt" data-cite="shipshirt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I try to vary the expressions (as well as the skins) to make each one have "something to say".</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You do a great job picking expressions. I don't like using expressions for WMMA characters unless they are serious grins or something similar, but for TEW it's a big plus depending on the gimmick you use.</p><p> </p><p> Good to see everyone's still churning out renders. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Jaysin]

Hellech

 

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Hellech.jpg

 

Pierrot

 

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Pierrot.jpg

 

 

:eek::eek:

 

SO GOOD

[d12345]

WillR0ck, those are amazing! What the heck did you use for the clown renders, they are so detailed and great. The Miyaki is terrific too, I really like that new lighting. The shadows give it a lot more depth.

 

 

 

I did this one before. Check the other forums (2010 and 2013) or the Cverse tag list at the beginning of this thread

 

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/TrentShaffer_alt_zps2c1f5c87.jpg http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/TrentShaffer_zps5cd386b8.jpg

 

 

 

Thanks man! For me, a huge part of the renders is the facial expression as much as it is making the character look like the original. I try to vary the expressions (as well as the skins) to make each one have "something to say".

 

I must have missed this one! Thank you kindly.

[willr0ck]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shipshirt" data-cite="shipshirt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>WillR0ck, those are amazing! What the heck did you use for the clown renders, they are so detailed and great. The Miyaki is terrific too, I really like that new lighting. The shadows give it a lot more depth.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I did this one before. Check the other forums (2010 and 2013) or the Cverse tag list at the beginning of this thread</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/TrentShaffer_alt_zps2c1f5c87.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/TrentShaffer_alt_zps2c1f5c87.jpg</span></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/TrentShaffer_zps5cd386b8.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/TrentShaffer_zps5cd386b8.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Thanks man! For me, a huge part of the renders is the facial expression as much as it is making the character look like the original. I try to vary the expressions (as well as the skins) to make each one have "something to say".</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Thanks Shipshirt, I used the Stan character textures for M4 from the Daz store. I'm glad you like them. I'm quite happy with how they turned out.</p><p> </p><p> And thanks to the rest of you for the kind words as well!</p>

[MrSelfDestruct]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="willr0ck" data-cite="willr0ck" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Motoyuki Miyake<p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Motoyuki%20Miyake.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Motoyuki%20Miyake.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> And a new look for Coulrophobia...not sure how I feel about these, but that might be because Clowns really give me the creeps.</p><p> </p><p> Hellech</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Hellech.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Hellech.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> Pierrot</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Pierrot.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Pierrot.jpg</span></a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> I Love those render but isn't Pierrot black?</p>

[Iceisle]

I Love those render but isn't Pierrot black?

 

They're both painted white.

 

Awesome work, BTW.

[d12345]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="willr0ck" data-cite="willr0ck" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Motoyuki Miyake<p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Motoyuki%20Miyake.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Motoyuki%20Miyake.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> And a new look for Coulrophobia...not sure how I feel about these, but that might be because Clowns really give me the creeps.</p><p> </p><p> Hellech</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Hellech.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Hellech.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> Pierrot</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Pierrot.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Pierrot.jpg</span></a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hey is it possible to get the Pierrot without the body paint? and just the face paint?</p>

[willr0ck]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hey is it possible to get the Pierrot without the body paint? and just the face paint?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sure, I can do that but it might take me a few days, this is my busy season at work and I'm slammed.</p>

[willr0ck]

<p>I did these a week or so ago and forgot to upload them. </p><p> </p><p>

Henry Lee</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Henry%20Lee_1.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Henry%20Lee_1.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Henry%20Leealt.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Henry%20Leealt.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p>

Gareth Wayne</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Gareth%20Wayne.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Gareth%20Wayne.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Gareth%20Wayne_alt.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Gareth%20Wayne_alt.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

Doug Peak</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Doug%20Peak.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Doug%20Peak.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Doug%20Peak_alt.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Doug%20Peak_alt.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

Not crazy with how Doug Peak turned out so I might give that one another go later.</p>

[shipshirt]

Lil' Henry

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Lil%20Henry.jpg http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Lil%20Henry_alt.jpg

[Spud1305]

Lil' Henry

 

The Lil' Henry renders are great, good work. Reminds me a little of Mark Henry, and that's how I booked him.

[shipshirt]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Spud1305" data-cite="Spud1305" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The Lil' Henry renders are great, good work. Reminds me a little of Mark Henry, and that's how I booked him.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks. Yeah that was kind of the vibe I thought of too. Zoomed out on the render he looks even moreso like Henry</p>

[shipshirt]

<p>Valiant always felt like a poor man's Rocky Golden to me. But, in any event, there you have it:</p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Valiant</strong></p><p>

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