The C-Verse Rerender Project: 3rd Strike

[d12345]

<p>Yea Danjuro looks awesome as well. Whenever I played as a U.S. company my first goal was always to work out an alliance to bring SUKI to the states cause he's a beast.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I really dig your renders will, extremely well done. One request though, if I may? For my personal tastes, the happy smiles seem out of place. Please go back to the traditional Japanese "this is the face I make when I'm pooping" expressions?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I for one don't mind some breaking up of the angry faces. </p><p> For every Katsuyori Shibata and Minoru Suzuki there's a YOSHI-HASHI and Taka Michinoku.</p>

[shipshirt]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yea Danjuro looks awesome as well. Whenever I played as a U.S. company my first goal was always to work out an alliance to bring SUKI to the states cause he's a beast.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I for one don't mind some breaking up of the angry faces. </p><p> For every Katsuyori Shibata and Minoru Suzuki there's a YOSHI-HASHI and Taka Michinoku.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree. I like a little variety in the expressions. I tend to go by the worker's strengths to choose the particular expressions. They can really make a character.</p><p> </p><p> Azumamaro Shimizu and Kikuchi are awesome. These recent renders have topped even your earlier stuff Willr0ck</p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Shane Nelson</strong></p><p> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Shane%20Nelson.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Shane%20Nelson.jpg</span></a></p></div><p></p><p></p>

[shipshirt]

<p></p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Matthew Keith/Greg Gauge</strong></p><p>

<a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Matthew%20Keith.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Matthew%20Keith.jpg</span></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Greg%20Gauge.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Greg%20Gauge.jpg</span></a></p></div><p></p><p></p>

[willr0ck]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shipshirt" data-cite="shipshirt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Shane Nelson</strong></p><p> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Shane%20Nelson.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Shane%20Nelson.jpg</span></a></p></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shipshirt" data-cite="shipshirt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Matthew Keith/Greg Gauge</strong></p><p> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Matthew%20Keith.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Matthew%20Keith.jpg</span></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Greg%20Gauge.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Greg%20Gauge.jpg</span></a></p></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Those are great renders! I really like the skin texture on Shane Nelson. Is that a Jepes texture? I've been meaning to pick some of those up and try them out.</p><p> </p><p> Also, I will try to incorporate more angry Japanese workers, I've been mostly going by performance rating to determine facial expressions, i.e. happy, smiling faces if they lean more to the face side and angry if they play the heel better.</p>

[Big Roguey]

Big fan of that Matthew Keith shipshirt.

[Eisen-verse]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shipshirt" data-cite="shipshirt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Matthew Keith/Greg Gauge</strong></p><p> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Matthew%20Keith.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Matthew%20Keith.jpg</span></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Greg%20Gauge.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Greg%20Gauge.jpg</span></a></p></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> These are awesome!</p>

[brat99]

Great work Shipshirt! I always get excited when I see you or willr0ck as the last post since it almost always means a great new render. Would love to see a new Sam Keith to match the new renders for his boys.

[willr0ck]

<p>Shotaro Ikina</p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Shotato%20Ikina.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Shotato%20Ikina.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p>

So I looked all over for a mask that resembles Massacre's original render and I couldn't find anything that came close. I tried a regular ski mask but that ended up looking stupid and I tried a Shinto Samurai mask, which looked pretty cool but the only texture they had was a natural wood color, which looked pretty terrible. With that being said I went in a whole other direction for the Massacer render and made him look like Umaga with face tattoos and armor. I figured the C-verse could use a Samoan bulldozer character. Some people may hate this one sense it's so different from the original and I may re-do the render some day when I find a decent mask but for now I love how this one turned out.</p><p> </p><p>

Massacre</p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Massacre.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Massacre.jpg</span></a></p>

[lavelleuk]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="willr0ck" data-cite="willr0ck" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Shotaro Ikina<p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Shotato%20Ikina.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Shotato%20Ikina.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> Massacre</p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Massacre.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Massacre.jpg</span></a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't play in Japan so had to look up who both these were lol but they are both great, that Massacre one especially!</p>

[shipshirt]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="willr0ck" data-cite="willr0ck" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Those are great renders! I really like the skin texture on Shane Nelson. Is that a Jepes texture? I've been meaning to pick some of those up and try them out.<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes! It's a new one I picked up during the recent DAZ sale, the Double Feature Wade Xenon. It also contains the skin I used on the Angry Gilmore render a few pages back. I used this skin on the Randy and Zimmy Bumfhole renders...it's really versatile and looks great with the Omnifreaker shader and Uberenvironment lighting (I think I turned down the intensity to 20 or 25% from the preset 30%...it can make a difference in smoothing out the shininess)</p><p> </p><p> That Massacre is really something! What's the hair on Shotaro? I'm always on the lookout for good hairstyles you can have hang in someone's face</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eisen-verse" data-cite="Eisen-verse" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>These are awesome!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Big fan of that Matthew Keith shipshirt.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks! I find Greg Gauge challenging because A) he's a twin to Matthew, and I don't just want to do the same render facing a different way, but B) in his stats he has a D in sex appeal where Matthew has a C or C+ (which is weird because they're twins). So I tried to convey that with the stubble on Matthew and a little cooler haircut and pose. Here's an angled Greg Gauge too.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Greg%20Gauge_angle.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Greg%20Gauge_angle.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brat99" data-cite="brat99" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Great work Shipshirt! I always get excited when I see you or willr0ck as the last post since it almost always means a great new render. Would love to see a new Sam Keith to match the new renders for his boys.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's like you read my mind <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> He's got kind of a Paul Newman thing going on here:</p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Sam Keith</strong></p><p> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/jkeats/media/Sam%20Keith_older.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/Sam%20Keith_older.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p></div><p></p><p></p>

[willr0ck]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shipshirt" data-cite="shipshirt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> What's the hair on Shotaro? I'm always on the lookout for good hairstyles you can have hang in someone's face.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's called Spartacos Hair and you can find it on Renderosity. I think it was around $10 for the hair, some head peices and textures.</p>

[d12345]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="willr0ck" data-cite="willr0ck" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Massacre</p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Massacre.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Massacre.jpg</span></a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hey Wil tried putting a mask on your Massacre over in the alt thread.</p><p> </p><p> Those Keith's look snazzy. Sam looks like he can still go! He needs a retirement match! </p><p> </p><p> I always took the Matt has more sex appeal/Star Quality than Greg thing to be due to the fact that Matt can be more of a muscular Heavyweight. Matt can get up to be a Ethan Carter III (TNA) sized light heavyweight, while Greg in his best shape is more of a Kenny Omega just above a Junior.</p>

[willr0ck]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hey Wil tried putting a mask on your Massacre over in the alt thread.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That one looks pretty cool. I wish I could find something similar in Daz but I have yet to find anything close. Great job!</p>

[willr0ck]

<p>Hito Ichihara</p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Hito%20Ichihara.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Hito%20Ichihara.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p>

Haruki Kudo</p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Haruki%20Kudo.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Haruki%20Kudo.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p>

Gareth Wayne</p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Gareth%20Wayne.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Gareth%20Wayne.jpg</span></a></p>

[shipshirt]

It's called Spartacos Hair and you can find it on Renderosity. I think it was around $10 for the hair, some head peices and textures.

 

Nice. I really like the SAV hairs too. I just picked it up.

 

Those Keith's look snazzy. Sam looks like he can still go! He needs a retirement match!

 

I always took the Matt has more sex appeal/Star Quality than Greg thing to be due to the fact that Matt can be more of a muscular Heavyweight. Matt can get up to be a Ethan Carter III (TNA) sized light heavyweight, while Greg in his best shape is more of a Kenny Omega just above a Junior.

 

Yeah I wish there was a better way to age Genesis figures like there is with the M4 ones. It's hard to make someone look significantly aged.

 

I like your take on Sex Appeal for the Keiths. Star Quality would definitely be different because they are two different people but I always had trouble with the renders trying to keep them looking the same and showing something to alter the sex appeal.

[willr0ck]

<p>Masatake Hori</p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Masatake%20Hori.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Masatake%20Hori.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p>

Sadanobu Koruba</p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Sadanobu%20Koruba.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Sadanobu%20Koruba.jpg</span></a></p>

[EdJames]

Thanks for the kind words guys. My plan is to do all the Japanese feds. I'll get to Saisho and Exodus for sure.

 

A couple more GCG guys...

 

Jimmy Cox -Sorry, had to ditch the mullet.

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Jimmy%20Cox.jpg

 

SUKI - This might be one of my personal favorites. I was going for the Kenta look and I am really pleased at how this one turned out.

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/SUKI.jpg

 

Love the new lighting you're using.

[shipshirt]

I was really happy with how these came out. There's not a ton *to* KC but I feel like I captured some different vibes. I even added an edgier haircut one for when he goes to Japan

 

KC Glenn

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/KC%20Glenn.jpg http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/KC%20Glenn_alt.jpg http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/KCGlennALT.jpg

[willr0ck]

Love the new lighting you're using.

 

Thanks!

 

KC Glenn

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/KC%20Glenn.jpg http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/KC%20Glenn_alt.jpg http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jkeats/KCGlennALT.jpg

 

Those are awesome!

 

Doug Peak

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Doug%20Peak.jpg

 

Henry Lee

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Henry%20Lee.jpg

[willr0ck]

<p>Dallas McWade</p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Dallas%20McWade.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Dallas%20McWade.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p>

Dean McWade</p><p>

<a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Dean%20McWade.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Dean%20McWade.jpg</span></a></p>

[Blackman]

<p>Great work as usual, guys. Can you find the time to do a CV97 version of Haruki Kudo please? Maybe just reverse the aging slider and color the beard somewhat? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Thanks.</p><p> </p><p>

I-rayed the alternate <strong>Michelle Brendon</strong> I made earlier</p><p> </p><p>

<span>http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd364/Marginal0/TEW/GIF/Michelle%20Brendon.jpg</span></p>

[d12345]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="willr0ck" data-cite="willr0ck" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> Doug Peak</p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Doug%20Peak.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Doug%20Peak.jpg</span></a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Awesome Doug Peak! Would you be able to do an Eddie Peak as well since they're brothers? I know he's not Japan but having 2 wildly different renders for family members isn't the best!</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I was really happy with how these came out. There's not a ton *to* KC but I feel like I captured some different vibes. I even added an edgier haircut one for when he goes to Japan<p> </p><p> </p><p> KC Glenn</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Dang! I already had a good KC Glenn from you. Ha! What do people do with their older still good renders when a new one comes out?</p>

[willr0ck]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can you find the time to do a CV97 version of Haruki Kudo please?<p> </p><p> I-rayed the alternate <strong>Michelle Brendon</strong> I made earlier</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd364/Marginal0/TEW/GIF/Michelle%20Brendon.jpg</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How do you like using Iray? I liked how my renders came out but I couldn't get the render times below 30 minutes, and that's with a pretty fast GPU, so I gave up on using it.</p><p> </p><p> Also, here's a 97 Haruki Kudo...</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Haruki%20Kudo_97.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Haruki%20Kudo_97.jpg</span></a></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Awesome Doug Peak! Would you be able to do an Eddie Peak as well since they're brothers? I know he's not Japan but having 2 wildly different renders for family members isn't the best!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Here's Eddie, I don't think it's as good as Shipshirts Eddie Peak but it's the same texture and same face moprhs as Doug with a few alterations...</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/media/TEW/Eddie%20Peak.jpg.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r496/aaronredwulfstudioswillr0ck/TEW/Eddie%20Peak.jpg</span></a></p>

[Blackman]

<p>Iray is slower but I rendered this one in x1500 (fullbody scope), and it took just a couple of minutes on a GTX970 (or something like that. I don't notice the time as I'm booking some event in TEW at that time <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />). Given that the 3delights render in mere seconds, it's kind of slow. It's when you start adding backgrounds that iray starts to get to superslowmotion mode.</p><p> </p><p>

I'm just a casual renderer and don't know the technical side of things, but many of the details I put into the figure don't convert well to iray. That and my vision on the character is sometimes completely changed due to surface settings (or god knows what other mumbo-jumbo <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />)</p><p> </p><p>

edit: thanks btw!</p>

[shipshirt]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Iray is slower but I rendered this one in x1500 (fullbody scope), and it took just a couple of minutes on a GTX970 (or something like that. I don't notice the time as I'm booking some event in TEW at that time <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />). Given that the 3delights render in mere seconds, it's kind of slow. It's when you start adding backgrounds that iray starts to get to superslowmotion mode.<p> </p><p> I'm just a casual renderer and don't know the technical side of things, but many of the details I put into the figure don't convert well to iray. That and my vision on the character is sometimes completely changed due to surface settings (or god knows what other mumbo-jumbo <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah I agree. I think that lighting loses some of the details. I know, even in 3Delight, that sometimes my render will look awesome in the view pane and when it renders I'm like "eh, I liked it better before". It's kind of like cartooning...you have these beautiful pencils and sometimes the inking lessens it.</p>