WCW: Heart and Soul

Armando Payne · April 2, 2017

Just re read this from Page 20, it seems like WWE's pulling a WCW with Hollywood Hulk Hogan winning world titles whereas with RVD as world champion it seems WCW's more like WWE. WCW seems to be the top show and I'm assuming Rhyno's ECW win is a dig at the fact that 2 of the top guys in WCW are ECW Alumni (Shane Douglas and Rob Van Dam.)

Maybe you could buy Damien 666 and have him join Vampiro, The Destroyer, The Unnatural, Mortis & Father Isaac?

Satyr24 · April 2, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Armando Payne" data-cite="Armando Payne" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just re read this from Page 20, it seems like WWE's pulling a WCW with Hollywood Hulk Hogan winning world titles whereas with RVD as world champion it seems WCW's more like WWE. WCW seems to be the top show and I'm assuming Rhyno's ECW win is a dig at the fact that 2 of the top guys in WCW are ECW Alumni (Shane Douglas and Rob Van Dam.) Maybe you could buy Damien 666 and have him join Vampiro, The Destroyer, The Unnatural, Mortis & Father Isaac?</div></blockquote> Why Not Crowbar

Beejus · April 2, 2017

Why not Zoidberg?

If I didn't say it, someone else would have. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

K-Nection · April 2, 2017

I'm curious of the grades from Wrestlemania? Care to post?

The Final Countdown · April 2, 2017

April 2002: Road to Slamboree, Part I <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/C7WWlCZ.jpg March 25th, 2002 From the Newcastle Entertainment Centre in Newcastle, Australia Attendance: 6,500 (sell-out!) Announce Team: "The Professor" Mike Tenay and Bret "The Hitman" Hart </div> Booker T begins in the ring and says that last night he took Roddy Piper's advice--he stopped ASKING for his title shot and instead staked his claim by force. "You think I care that the fans are upset they didn't get to see a winner last night? That don't matter! Neither of those guys should be world champion! That's my title, and I'm not askin' for a shot to get it back--I'm takin' it!" Arn Anderson comes out, but Booker doesn't like what he has to say: "That's not how opportunities are earned here in WCW, so if you want a shot at the world title, you better be willing to get back into the ring and earn it! As far as Slamboree goes, there's already a world title match set: it'll be a rematch between Rob Van Dam and Rey Misterio Jr, and this time I guarantee we'll have a winner!" (B-) <div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/u0cJ04Z.jpg</div> 24 hours after retaining his title against American Dragon, TAKA turned right back around and defended the title again, this time against Jamie Knoble. Knoble wrestled a technical-based style similar to what Dragon employed the night before and gave TAKA a big challenge, but the champion prevailed with the Michinoku Driver at the end of a lengthy match. (B+) Unseen backstage footage from Clash of the Champions: the Natural Born Thrillers and Steiner Brothers argue over who will win the tiebreaker (tonight's main event) and send their team to the finals of the UFS. (B) Salvation backstage promo: Isaac says recent events have left Salvation in need of reexamining themselves, and Vampiro, Mortis and Unnatural all agree. © Even if the women's championship of the world wasn't on the line, young Aussie wrestler Madison Eagles had an enormous opportunity in a singles match against Etsuko Mita. The crowd cheered their countrywoman on, but it just wasn't to be. Mita was better, and she put the youngster away with the DVD. (C-) In an interview, Rey Misterio Jr. tells Bobby Heenan that he thoroughly enjoyed testing himself against RVD and looks forward to doing it again, this time with a winner. Shane Douglas interrupts and wishes Rey luck at Slamboree, because his trophy case will be a lot lighter after he takes the United States title from him next week! (B) There was a "mix and match" cruiserweight tag team match, and the winning team would then wrestle against each other next week to determine who will challenge TAKA at Slamboree. All four men gave it their all in a match filled with eye-popping high flying moves, but it was AJ Styles who pinned Kaz Hayashi with the Spiral Tap to give he and Shane Helms the win over Hayashi and Billy Kidman. (B-) Alex Wright gives a brief pep talk to American Dragon backstage as he copes with his failed attempt to win the cruiserweight title. (C-) In non-title action, True Heroes defeated The Mamalukes without much difficulty. (B) <div style="text-align:center;">Spotlight Segment: http://i.imgur.com/LuHGjH3.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/I7app7W.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/cAw5Dl8.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/OZDc3yZ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/omw6AWI.jpg All of The Empire (minus TAKA, who I figured had been on TV enough tonight after his very long match with Jamie Knoble) came to the ring for a promo. This included the newest member, King Corino. Bischoff began by welcoming Corino to the fold. "Everyone who doubts my intentions can keep right on doubting. I'll just continue to build the strongest faction that WCW, that this entire business, has ever seen! And more importantly, I'll continue to lay the foundation for the next generation. This group is all about fostering and growing the future superstars of WCW, the young men and women who will lead this company for the next decade. And King Corino, he's a natural fit. Not only is he a world-class wrestler who is wise beyond his years, he's a man with just the kind of go-getter attitude that winners are made of. Just look at what he's been doing for the past several months. Did he allow old men like Jerry Lawler, Terry Funk and Bob Backlund to steal his time in the spotlight because they were jealous that theirs had passed them by? Hell no; he sent each and every one of them packing! He didn't bow to them or show them undeserved respect as they tried to take what was his. He knocked them out of his way and used what was left of their faded stars to make his own shine even brighter, and that's exactly what The Empire is all about!" Corino was next. He thanked Eric for the opportunity, and said it was nice that someone in a position of power was actually concerned with building the future of WCW. "From the moment I've come in to this company, I've had to deal with old man after old man who just couldn't let go. They just kept trying to hang on to any scrap of relevance they could get their hands on, and to hell with the young, hungry generation who was trying to forge a new legacy! I used to call myself the 'King of Old School', but now I'm simply King, because the truth is that I am better than any of those old school "legends" ever were! The Empire is paving the way to the future, and I'm honored to stand beside them as we do it!" Candido was next, and like the others he stuck to a script this time. Tammy's presence in the ring really helped him (I'm sure it would've helped me too if I were engaged to her) as he gloated about his win over Ric Flair at Clash of the Champions. "Flair, you're the biggest offender of them all! You should've retired AT LEAST ten years ago, but you continue to limp out here in your robes straight out of the 70's and try and pretend you're still the Nature Boy. But the truth is that the Nature Boy is long dead, Ric! You're a shell of the man that you used to be! The old Ric Flair from the glory days would've at least given me a challenge, but OLD Ric Flair doesn't even belong in the same ring as Chris Candido! So why don't you do yourself a favor and hang up that stupid robe for good, and do the rest of us a favor and take that Brandon Lee wannabe Sting with you while you're at it!" http://i.imgur.com/cxjgZpP.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/u4Nhu66.jpg Sting and Flair had heard enough. They stepped out into the aisle, Sting holding his customary black baseball bat and Flair (presumably) holding the bat that Bischoff had left behind last night in his hurry to escape from Sting. They also stuck to a script (see why I didn't let the guys improv this time? Five speakers all going off the cuff sounded like a bad idea.) Flair assured Candido that he was far from done. Maybe he wasn't the same Nature Boy that had beaten Harley Race inside the cage at the first Starrcade, but Space Mountain was still very much in business, WOO! (He made sure to look at Sytch as he said this. I'm sure he would've done that whether I told him to or not.) It fell to Sting to close it, and that was a good decision. The fans loved Sting here, and his performance really stood out. He was short and to the point, but very effective: if he and Flair were as over the hill as the Empire say they are, obviously they'd have no problem beating them in a tag team match? The fans cheered that idea, but we got no answer from The Empire before we cut to commercial. Grade: B</div> RVD is signing autographs for fans in another area of the building when Booker T walks by. They get into an argument, with Booker yelling at RVD that he probably put Arn Anderson up to signing a rematch with Rey because he knows that if Booker ever got his title shot, that belt would be gone for sure. RVD brushes the comment off in his usual calm manner, telling Booker that he doesn't make the matches but he'd have no problem showing him what Rob-Van-Dam is all about. (A*) The adrift tag team of Hugh Morrus and Konnan tried to get themselves back into the thick of the tag title hunt, but they were unable to take down the Hardys. Matt claimed the win for he and his brother with a Twist of Fate on Konnan. (B-) Backstage: Buff Bagwell tells Lex Luger he wants nothing to do with him anymore, because he's not "the stuff" and is dragging him down. Lex smiles and says that's fine; he has a plan to get back to the top, and it'll only work if he's on his own. (C-) Christopher Daniels interview: "Good things come to those who wait, and the best thing possible for all of WCW will be when I make my grand debut in the cruiserweight division!" (D) Ultimate Fan Series, Semifinal Round: #2 Agents of Chaos vs. #8 The Wild Cards (series tied 2-2) Who would join The Dead Jesters in the finals? It was up to the Steiners and Thrillers to answer that question. The wisdom of both team managers came through here in selecting established tag teams to represent them in the tiebreaker, because both of these duos showed great teamwork throughout. It was a back and forth, seesaw match, but Scott Steiner forced Palumbo to submit to the Steiner Recliner while Rick held O'Haire at bay. The finals were now set: it's the Agents of Chaos vs. the Dead Jesters! (B+) <div style="text-align:center;">Show Grade: B+ http://i.imgur.com/pBTSX2H.jpg Taped immediately after Nitro Announce Team: Tony Schiavone and Don West </div> Takako Inoue knocked Madison Eagles out cold with her 'Night Night' spinning backfist. (C-) AJ Styles and Shane Helms are interviewed about their #1 contender's match next Monday on Nitro. (C+) Yang was one step ahead of Elix Skipper, gaining victory with Yang Time. (C+) Before his match, King Corino cuts a promo taunting "the golden oldies" Ric Flair and Sting. (B-) With Eric Bischoff in his corner, Corino prevailed over Norman Smiley with the piledriver. (B-) <div style="text-align:center;">Show Grade: B- </div> </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/C7WWlCZ.jpg April 1st, 2002 From the Eastern Kentucky Center in Pikeville, Kentucky Attendance: 5,666 Announce Team: "The Professor" Mike Tenay and Bret "The Hitman" Hart </div> AJ Styles and Shane Helms worked together as partners last week, but they were back on opposing sides now with a shot at the cruiserweight title hanging in the balance. It could've been anybody's match, but the back-and-forth, athletic bout ended with a Styles Clash. (B) TAKA ambushes AJ and lays him out with the Michinoku Driver as Eric Bischoff taunts him, saying he doesn't have what it takes to drag this Empire down by taking away one of its prized assets. (B+) Rey Misterio Jr. and Shane Douglas each cut pre-taped promos for tonight's main event. Rey says he's honored to be United States champion and will fight to keep that title whether he's got a world title match coming or not. Douglas says that he earned this match by proving he truly was more deserving of the spotlight than Diamond Dallas Page, and now he'll take advantage of that by winning the US title. (B) Doomsday are the experienced team, but they were outwrestled and defeated by Chris Candido and new Empire member King Corino. (B) Ric Flair and Sting are shown on the big screen from backstage, and they want an answer to last week's challenge. Corino says that it'll be his pleasure to send Flair and Sting packing just like he's already done to so many has-beens already. Candido agrees with his partner--they'll meet them at Slamboree! (B+) True Heroes are backstage, and they wonder if any team will even be able to give them a real challenge, or if they'll just have to eventually retire with the belts. Their gloating is interrupted-- <div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/nK4nv40.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/xBMEvAh.jpg</div> --by the Road Warriors! Hawk says that any team who starts thinking they're dominant has them to answer to! How about they prove how great they are against the REAL most dominant tag team of all time? (C+) Ultimate Fan Series, Final Round: #2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters The finals opened up with Rick Steiner taking on Kidman. The Dog Faced Gremlin had a big size and strength advantage, but Kidman was able to do a lot of flying to neutralize that. He went for the shooting star press, but Steiner cut him off and hit a belly to belly superplex to win the match. (B) <div style="text-align:center;">Spotlight Segment: http://i.imgur.com/4Hgahfk.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/kccSmqv.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ptxupoY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/fn8zdsQ.jpg Salvation talked about a need to reexamine and analyze their strengths and weaknesses last week, and tonight they came to the ring to reveal the results of that introspection. Mortis struggled a bit as he talked about needing to look past the superfluous and dig deep to find out what is going on underneath the surface. Unnatural said that after much soul-searching and contemplation, they as a unit had identified a fatal flaw that was holding them back and would continue to do so unless they corrected it. Vampiro then took the microphone, and he came through with a solid improvised performance. "We are supposed to be a brotherhood. Alone we are flawed, imperfect beings. It is only by standing together that we become something more, something bigger and grander than any mortal being could ever be. Together we are Salvation, and we are unstoppable. But we have not been whole. We have been incomplete because one of our supposed brothers has not been here to stand beside us. But he is here tonight, so it is time for us to make this right. Destroyer, join us inside the ring!" http://i.imgur.com/4CP35O5.jpg The Destroyer did as he was bade, and Vampiro delivered a speech straight to him. "My brother, you were supposed to be our destroyer. You were supposed to be the blunt instrument with which we silenced dissent and helped others find Salvation, just as you did for Brother Unnatural. But where have you been? How can you be our destroyer, how can you serve our cause, if you continue to disappear? You truly are a destroyer--but it's Salvation that you are destroying, and we can allow it to stand no more. You are hereby excommunicated from Salvation!" Destroyer considered that for a second--then floored Vampiro with a huge clothesline! Attention immediately shifted to the other members of Salvation, but they did not immediately move. Time stood still until Father Isaac nodded and gave a devious grin. Mortis and Unnatural acted at that precise moment--by attacking Vampiro! Together with The Destroyer, the three of them stomped and kicked at the defenseless man as Isaac picked up the microphone from the mat, where it had fallen from Vampiro's hands when he was first struck. "You seem to be operating under a false assumption, Vampiro, so allow me to enlighten you. It is not The Destroyer who is our fatal flaw--it is you! You were correct in saying that we are only whole when we stand together, but from the very beginning you have rejected our brotherhood and instead embraced solitude. You rejected my guidance and insisted that you walk to the ring alone for your matches. I did my best to ignore your selfishness, choosing to believe that my faith was not misplaced when I recruited you, but over this past week I could ignore it no longer. All throughout this past week you behaved as if you held power over us, insisting that The Destroyer needed to be eliminated and we would be better off without him. You ignored our counsel and remained stubbornly insistent, and your behavior made it crystal clear to the rest of us that a man such as you is not fit to stand beside us. You were never a leader of Salvation. Salvation has no leader; every man in our brotherhood stands as an equal, yet you couldn't accept that. You wish to walk alone, Vampiro? Well now you have your wish, because you are no longer our brother in Salvation! Destroyer: finish him!" Mortis and Unnatural helped Destroyer pick Vampiro up and toss him onto the mat with the Destruction Bomb, leaving an exclamation point as the group walked off. Grade: B-</div> Rey Misterio is warming up for the main event when RVD approaches. They agree that they'll raise the bar again for world title matches (taking a few potshots at the WWF and its ancient world champion crowned 24 hours earlier in the process) at Slamboree, but Van Dam wonders whether Rey will still hold his title by then. (B+) American Dragon looked to be well on his way to a win, but Chavo Guerrero Jr. pinned him with a cradle (and a handful of tights.) (B) Backstage: Madusa tries to confront Etsuko Mita, but Bischoff cautions her against that. "I suggest you go back to playing with your little trucks. This is a new era of women's wrestling in WCW, and you're no match for the new standard bearer!" Madusa, undeterred, says she'll put her monster truck career on hold if it means she gets a chance to knock that arrogant look off the champ's face! (D+) Vignette: Scott Steiner is trying to get in a good workout at the gym, but is annoyed when Lex Luger comes in as well. He yells at Luger to beat it, but Lex says he has to get to work on "getting back to basics." (B) <div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/mitTbCm.jpg</div> It was main event time, and Rey Misterio Jr's US title was on the line. Shane Douglas knew his key to victory was slowing the pace down and keeping Rey on the ground, and he was able to do that very effectively after withstanding an initial outburst from the champion. He was set on grinding his way to the title, but Rey eventually freed himself and picked the pace of the match up again. Just when everything was going his way, Booker T hopped over the guard rail and tugged on his foot as he was about to perform a springboard hurricanrana! Rey landed roughly inside the ring, and Douglas covered him to become a 2-time US champion! (B+) Booker beats on Rey after the match until Arn Anderson comes out from the back and demands he leave immediately. Booker has a heated response: "Until you give me my title shot, I'll keep wreckin' things for you and your two golden boys every single week, dawg! What happened at the Clash is only the beginning!" (B+) <div style="text-align:center;">Show Grade: B+ http://i.imgur.com/pBTSX2H.jpg Taped immediately after Nitro Announce Team: Tony Schiavone and Don West </div> Takako Inoue defeated local talent ODB. (C-) AJ Styles interview; he says TAKA attacked him after his match because he's threatened and knows AJ can take that title from him at Slamboree. (C+) Yang defeated local talent Ray Gordy. (C+) 3 Count vignette; still scouting for a third band member. (D) Our main event featured Fit Finlay defeating Alex Wright via Tombstone. (B-) <div style="text-align:center;">Show Grade: C+ </div> </div></blockquote> <hr noshade size=3> So I've decided to try splitting each 'Road to' into two parts, at least for this month. Let me know what you think about it. As I said, this won't have any impact on how quickly I progress through shows; it just means the month will be covered in two posts instead of one. I'm hoping to get the second part/Slamboree prediction post up tomorrow, and if I don't manage that it should almost definitely be up on Tuesday. The angle where Briskout resurrected the ECW title (as a main event title) has given me an idea. I'm considering using that as the jumping off point for a brand split, with ECW replacing Smackdown and the ECW title obviously serving as that brand's top prize. It seems like something they might logically do in this universe with WCW still alive, and I definitely think they have the roster depth to support it. I'm not for sure on this, but if I do it it'll likely be right around the same time they change from WWF to WWE. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Here is some more loading screens!</div></blockquote> Nice! Definitely wasn't expecting any Etsuko Mita! <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Briskout" data-cite="Briskout" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> -Show starts with Saliva playing Superstar… Glad to have bought this pay per view just to see this for five minutes, I guess I can go to sleep now.</div></blockquote> I have a feeling I'll be wishing they'd only given 5 minutes to whatever music act(s) are going to be on the show tonight. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>-Opening match, Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho v. William Regal & Eddie Guerrero.This sets the standard pretty high for the rest of the show as the four men who should be nearing the main event, find themselves much like they did prior to leaving WCW: aimless. Benoit and Regal start and exchange hold after hold before Guerrero does the same with Benoit, tag to Jericho and the pace quickens. The pace slows back down with Regal however. Crowd going back and forth between all four men and it’s Regal who manages to pull the victory when he connects with the Power of the Punch on Benoit for the win.</div></blockquote> Awesome opening match! If this were a real show this would've been the thing I was most looking forward to. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>-European Title Match, Spike Dudley v. Mr. Perfect. This is a glorified squash match as Perfect, who had been pretty relegated to a veteran hang up role as of late, manages to tap into the glimpse of what made him so great in the last decade. As Tazz put it, “the swagger was back” and Perfect makes quick work of Spike finishing him off in under 6 minutes for his first European title reign.</div></blockquote> Good for Perfect! They haven't done much of anything with him after outbidding me, and he's a much more credible champ than little Spike. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>-In one of the strangest decisions of the night, Funaki defeated Jerry Lynn for the Light Heavyweight belt. The crowd saw this as somewhat of a bathroom break though and missed a good display of wrestling between Lynn and Funaki. Funaki came away when he hit the Fisherman Buster which means in the two top US promotions, two members of Kai En Tai hold their lightweight belts. Interesting.</div></blockquote> ...INDEED! (Everybody knows TAKA's title is way more important though.) <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>-Hardcore Battle Royal time as it was weapons galore. Paul Heyman joined the announce team for this one. 29 men and Chyna were involved as was a ton of weapons. Kane, as he tends to do, eliminated the majority and the final four were Tommy Dreamer, the Hardcore champ, Rhyno, Kane and Jake “the Snake” Roberts. The attempt to eliminate Kane by the other three was backfired when Jake turned on Dreamer quickly, meaning there’d be a new Hardcore champion. Robert was next as he was unceremoniously dumped by Kane who turned around into the GORE - GORE - GORE of Rhyno, giving us a new Hardcore champion! -In a quickly shocking maneuver, Paul Heyman jumped into the ring the ECW title as referee Jim Korderas was handing Rhyno the Hardcore title. Rhyno threw the Hardcore title on the ground as Paul Heyman declared that men like Rhyno weren’t hardcore, they were EXTREME and declared that Rhyno was once again the REIGNING AND DEFENDING ECW World Champion! <div style="text-align:center;">http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/555/658/Rhino2_display_image.jpg?1321208483</div></div></blockquote> Never would've thought of this, but it's a really interesting angle. It also put an idea in my head as you can see above... <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/wwe_16_9_s/public/video/thumb/2012/09/889-20020317_wm18_hall_USE.jpg</div> -The next match showed that Scott Hall was still struggling with demons as Hall lost to Steve Austin in what should have been a great match but was rushed due to Hall’s condition forcing Steve Austin and referee Tim White to improvise much of the ending to keep Hall safe.</div></blockquote> What a screwup Hall is. (Guess it's fitting.) I'm glad I didn't bring him in, which I seriously was thinking about before WWF jumped in with an offer. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://wrestlersbioa.weebly.com/uploads/8/6/8/1/8681413/7471553_orig.jpg</div> -Number one contender’s match as another multiman match came up as Big Show defeated Triple H and The Undertaker after hitting both with a chokeslam. Jim Ross makes a big deal out of the loss, noting it’s the first time Undertaker suffered defeat WrestleMania.</div></blockquote> Wait...did The Big Show just end the streak? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> (I guess it wasn't really a big deal yet though; I think he was only 9-0 heading into WM18?) <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="wrestlemania-18-the-rock-and-hollywood-hogan1.jpg?resize=642%2C361" data-src="https://i2.wp.com/lylesmoviefiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/wrestlemania-18-the-rock-and-hollywood-hogan1.jpg?resize=642%2C361" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> -In the main event, Hollywood Hogan won the fourway dance pinning Bubba Ray Dudley after hitting the leg drop. This match was hot for the crowd, but the crowd couldn’t overcome the fact that Dudley was the champion and it dragged away from the fact that Hogan, Angle and the Rock were involved in the match. As Hogan posed with fellow heels Mr. Perfect & Scott Hall, Jim Ross expressed it best ”this was supposed to be WrestleMania damn it!”</div></blockquote> Some real star power there, but you had an uphill battle trying to deal with Bubba as the world champ. No such issues for the AI with Hulk, so we'll see what they do. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Overall the show fell flat. The heel antics of Hogan, Perfect and Hall were minimum really but well aware. Whether the Federation takes action against Hall is yet to be seen as he was clearly drunk, but otherwise it just felt flat. The best match of the night (the opening tag match) set the stage for a great match moving forward but everything else sort of seemed iffy at best. Last year’s WrestleMania set the stage for another great show this year and with the return of Hogan and Hall, matches like Hogan vs. Austin, Hogan vs. Rock, Hogan vs. HHH were all possible as well as Hall against the same people, but instead we saw a drunk Scott Hall, a really bad main event (thanks to both booking decisions tonight and booking decisions leading into the show) and strange set up moving forward, after Mania (with Big Show winning a number one contender’s match). There were some highlights of the night still. The tag match was phenomenal, some of the undercard pushes coming were great such as Test & Albert gaining their first tag titles and Rhyno reclaiming the ECW title could be interesting, but this felt more like Backlash than WrestleMania and may go down as one of the worst WrestleManias in WWF history.</div></blockquote> Pfft, this was a historically great show in comparison to the abomination that was WMIX. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> You were really hamstrung by the game removing all the ongoing AI storylines when you popped in. That's definitely something I'll need to address when Summerslam approaches and someone gets the chance to guest book it. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Armando Payne" data-cite="Armando Payne" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just re read this from Page 20, it seems like WWE's pulling a WCW with Hollywood Hulk Hogan winning world titles whereas with RVD as world champion it seems WCW's more like WWE. WCW seems to be the top show and I'm assuming Rhyno's ECW win is a dig at the fact that 2 of the top guys in WCW are ECW Alumni (Shane Douglas and Rob Van Dam.) Maybe you could buy Damien 666 and have him join Vampiro, The Destroyer, The Unnatural, Mortis & Father Isaac?</div></blockquote> It's an interesting direction for sure. Definitely something that I'll comment on here and there within the story, as you can see in that RVD/Rey backstage segment from the Nitro the next night. Never gave much thought to Damien, but Salvation may have a spot open now! <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Satyr24" data-cite="Satyr24" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why Not Crowbar</div></blockquote> Crowbar's an interesting possibility, and would fill a new role as Salvation doesn't have a member that can chase the cruiserweight title. That was initially going to be Christopher Daniels' spot, but I decided against that for a few different reasons. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm curious of the grades from Wrestlemania? Care to post?</div></blockquote> MOTN: Opening tag, 80 Main event: 79 Show overall: 67 Like I said, the combination of Bubba as the world champion and no time to build any active storylines (in a product that requires them) really handicapped Briskout. I think what I may do is have the guest booker jump in for the Smackdown (or maybe ECW?) right before Summerslam just so they have a chance to set up and build heat for a few of the big storylines before the PPV.

K-Nection · April 2, 2017

You could just turn off storyline penalties for the guest booker....Having the guest bookers running two shows might slow your pace down.

The Final Countdown · April 2, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You could just turn off storyline penalties for the guest booker....Having the guest bookers running two shows might slow your pace down.</div></blockquote> I didn't even realize that was an option as I was only looking in the user preferences, but now I see it's right there in the main settings. <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I'm assuming this would affect my settings as well then, since it's in the regular options menu rather than the preferences? (Not that it would matter anyway, since I can just turn it back on right after the show.)

Briskout · April 3, 2017

i honestly think Bubba Ray did more harm than just the storylines. I mean everything was downhill but any main event per and rocky would've gotten at least an 85/90. Best I could do with bubba was 75. It's why I added Angle and Hogan and last minute changed from Angke to Hogan as I just felt Hogan would be an almost better champion for you to deal with (challenging short term but with Angle he could be champion until 2010 if they wanted)

LordofGustav · April 3, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why not Zoidberg? If I didn't say it, someone else would have. <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> Hurray for Zoidberg!!

Beejus · April 3, 2017

That was a pretty big episode of Nitro, so I'm kinda glad it got its own post. From the announcement of the Slamboree main event, to the big Empire/Flair & Sting segment, Vampiro getting booted from his own group, the MOTHERF'N ROAD WARRIORS, and finally the title change, a ton of things just went down!

But one of the sweetest was my Agents advancing! I'm keeping an eye on that Unnatural though, he better hold up his end or else it'll be unnatural what Scotty and Rick do to him!

The Final Countdown · April 5, 2017

April 2002: Road to Slamboree, Part II <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/C7WWlCZ.jpg April 8th, 2002 From the Wheeling Civic Center in Wheeling, West Virginia Attendance: 5,000 (sell-out!) Announce Team: "The Professor" Mike Tenay and Bret "The Hitman" Hart </div> The show opened with a singles match between AJ Styles and Chris Candido. Styles looked to prove a point to the stablemate of the man he'll challenge for the Cruiserweight title at Slamboree, but a missed Spiral Tap allowed Candido to hit the fisherman buster and get the pin. (B) TAKA joins Candido in beating AJ down as Bischoff and Corino taunt him about daring to think he could challenge the Empire. Sting and Ric Flair run down for the save (still wielding the baseball bats) and chase The Empire off. (B) Backstage: American Dragon complains about Chavo Guerrero Jr. grabbing the tights during their match last week. Chavo tells him he lost because he's a kid with all the talent but none of the smarts, and suggests he watch how a true professional (himself) operates during tonight's main event against Rob Van Dam. (C-) Madusa stepped into the ring against fellow veteran Shinobu Kandori. Mike and I introduced Kandori to the audience as a former Olympic judoka and extremely dangerous submission specialist. She showed some of those skills here, but Madusa had the savvy to avoid getting trapped in any submissions and won the match with a German suplex. A cutaway to Etsuko Mita watching on a monitor backstage showed her scowling, the World Women's Championship around her waist. © Salvation backstage promo. Isaac: "If I know you, Vampiro, I know that you're as stubborn as a mule and won't be wise enough to slink away and avoid us as you should. So if you have revenge on your mind, we'll give you a chance to do just that against all of Salvation in a six man tag team match at Slamboree--if you can find two men on this Earth who can tolerate your presence long enough to team with you!" (C+) Vignette: Lex Luger visits a school. But he wasn't there to make a speech for the kids; he was there to speak to a bus driver. Why? Who knows. © Scott Steiner had his way with Johnny the Bull before finishing him with the Steiner Recliner. (B-) Shane Helms interview: despite losing the #1 contender's match last week, he's still the cream of the crop in the cruiserweight division. To prove it, he's issuing an open challenge to any cruiserweight to face him at Slamboree. (B-) Rick Steiner and Buff Bagwell are both experienced tag team wrestlers, and they tried to use that experience to hand a setback to the red-hot Hardys. The veterans made things interesting, but Matt and Jeff continued their winning ways as a team when Jeff hit the Swanton Bomb on Bagwell. (B) Backstage: Rey Misterio Jr. approaches RVD as he's warming up for the main event and the two discuss the situation at Slamboree. Both men are excited to have a chance to set the standard and tear the house down again at Slamboree, but they agree that they'll need to keep an eye out for Booker T. (B+) Ultimate Fan Series, Final Round: #2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 1-0) The Unnatural attempted to give the Agents a 2-0 lead as he took on 1/2 of the World Tag Team Champions, Lance Storm. Unnatural looked very effective when he was able to brawl, but Storm wisely kept things technical as much as possible. It was a fairly even match until Animal of the Road Warriors stormed down to the ring, decked out in the iconic spiked shoulder pads. His presence made Storm take his eye off the ball just enough to fall victim to Unnatural Selection, and the Agents of Chaos needed just one more win to achieve total victory. (B) <div style="text-align:center;">Spotlight Segment: http://i.imgur.com/mS6Goca.jpg Shane Douglas cut a backstage promo with the United States title over his shoulder. He said this moment was long overdue. "I should've been a major player in WCW all along. The moment this company first signed me back in 1989 they should've treated me like the future legend I was and groomed me for success, but they had no idea what they had and let me slip through their fingers. They had another chance when I returned in 1999, but there wasn't a single person in a position of power who knew a damn thing about how to promote a successful wrestling company. I surrounded myself with a few like-minded individuals so we could start our own "revolution" within WCW, but then my so-called friends lied to my face, took Vince McMahon's money and left me high and dry. "WCW was all but dead, and my attitude at the time was 'good riddance!' This diseased company deserved to fade away into nothingness, and I knew I was too much my own man to ever get another offer from the WWF even if I'd wanted to go back to that hellhole, so mentally I already had one foot out the door of professional wrestling. But then, against all odds, WCW was resurrected. I could've just sat at home and collected a paycheck until my contract with those idiots at Turner expired, but there was something eating away at me. I had never been given a chance to fulfill my potential on a global stage and become the legend I always knew I could and should be. So I made a decision. I was going to be part of the new WCW when it relaunched, but I wasn't going to allow anyone or anything to hold me back anymore. Incompetent management, locker room politics, fair-weather friends who would sell me out at the first opportunity: nothing would stop me until I showed the world what Shane Douglas is truly capable of! "Diamond Dallas Page was just the beginning. He was a stepping stone and nothing more. After I beat him it was on to bigger and better things, like this United States title. This right here is now the most prestigious championship in all of wrestling, because I'm the man holding it! You Internet geeks can gush about Rob Van Dam and Rey Misterio as much as you want to, but I'm the real star of this show! And anyone in this company who's thinking of making a name for themselves at my expense by taking this title away from me: do your worst!" Shane was absolutely fantastic here. He's legitimately been full of anger and resentment about his career path for years, and he channeled that perfectly here into a fiery, defiant promo. But the segment wasn't over just yet. http://i.imgur.com/zbQxlTu.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9QpxTLI.jpg The Natural Born Thrillers walked into the shot. They didn't say a word, but both guys made their intentions clear by not just staring down Douglas, but also glancing at his United States title. This segment was awesome. It was encouraging to see Douglas maintain this high quality without the presence of DDP and his star power. Grade: A</div> As Chavo mentioned previously, he took on the reigning World Heavyweight Champion in a non-title main event. Chavo has never been a legit world title contender, but at least on this night he looked like he truly belonged in the ring against the best of the best. He used a combination of athletic ability and the knowledge of a third-generation wrestler with over a decade of ring experience to give Van Dam a very stern test, but ultimately RVD showed his championship mettle by planting Chavo and hopping to the top for the Five Star Frog Splash. Before he could actually deliver the move, Booker T ran down and shoved him off of the top rope for a DQ! (A) Booker continues to attack Van Dam after the match until Rey Misterio runs down from the back and slides into the ring. Booker takes a swing, but Rey ducks it, hits the ropes on the other side and gives him a dropkick to the chest! Booker rolls out to the floor and backs off even as Rey dares him to come back in for some more. "You're not so tough now that you're looking at me face-to-face instead of jumping me from behind, are you?" Rey shouted into the microphone at the man who'd cost him the United States title one week earlier. (B+) <div style="text-align:center;">Show Grade: B+ http://i.imgur.com/pBTSX2H.jpg Taped immediately after Nitro Announce Team: Tony Schiavone and Bret Hart </div> CM Punk easily defeated M.I. Smooth. (C-) Billy Kidman soared to victory over Evan Karagis. (B-) A Christopher Daniels promo is interrupted by Jim Duggan, who challenges Daniels to stop running his mouth about his debut and actually meet him in the ring this Monday on Nitro. (D-) American Dragon overcame the aerial skills of Yang to record a submission win. (B-) Unseen footage from Nitro: Ric Flair and Sting recruit AJ Styles and convince Arn Anderson to give them a six man tag match against The Empire Monday on Nitro! (B) <div style="text-align:center;">Show Grade: C+ </div> </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/C7WWlCZ.jpg April 15th, 2002 From the Reilly Center in St. Bonaventure, New York Attendance: 5,780 (sell-out!) Announce Team: "The Professor" Mike Tenay and Bret "The Hitman" Hart </div> Ultimate Fan Series, Final Round: #2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-0) It was up to Shane Douglas to keep the Dead Jesters alive as he took on Mark Jindrak. The new United States champion proved his mettle by wearing his muscular opponent down and tapping him out with the crossface. (B-) The Thrillers confront Douglas in the ring, and Chuck Palumbo verbally states what was made obvious last week: they want a shot at the United States title! With a smile, Douglas agrees to give ONE of them a title match this Sunday at Slamboree--and they can determine who the challenger will be by wrestling each other, right now! (B+) The 'divide and conquer' strategy of Shane Douglas was obvious, but O'Haire and Palumbo shook hands and went straight to it. They wrestled a clean match with lots of power spots, and O'Haire earned the victory and the title shot with the Widow Maker. (B-) RVD and Misterio approach Arn Anderson in his office and demand that he come up with a solution for the Booker T problem so they can concentrate on their title match. Arn frowns and says he'll do his best. (B+) Salvation showed their unity in a dominant six man performance against Yang and The Mamalukes. During the match there was a split screen shot of Vampiro watching the match alone on a backstage monitor, and Mike and I questioned whether he'd be able to find two partners before Slamboree. (B-) Ric Flair, Sting and AJ Styles and The Empire cut pre-taped promos hyping both tonight's six man tag main event and their matches at Slamboree on Sunday. (B+) True Heroes summon the Road Warriors to the ring. Storm says that they weren't planning on granting a title shot to the tag team of the '80s, considering they are the team of the new millennium, but Animal sticking his nose into his UFS match last week changed the equation. Punk says they'll be happy to give them a title match at Slamboree and have already arranged it with Arn Anderson, but they've also arranged a match right here and now where Hawk and Animal can work off the ring rust and test themselves against a tag team on the same level as them. (C+) The team that True Heroes hand-picked to face the Road Warriors, who they said were "on their level?" 3 Count. Hawk and Animal did not appreciate that little dig, and demolished the wannabe boy band in a one-sided match. (C+) Chavo Guerrero Jr. pats American Dragon on the back and says he'll do him a big favor: he's going to take him under his wing and show him the ropes! It's hard to see Dragon's expression underneath the mask and his tone of voice didn't make his feelings obvious either, but he shrugs and goes along with it. (C-) Shane Helms promo on his open challenge: "TAKA and AJ Styles can have their little match, but whoever walks outta that match with the cruiserweight title is living on borrowed time! I'm taking that belt back, but first I'm gonna show how great I am by beating any cruiserweight brave enough to accept the challenge at Slamboree!" (C+) Christopher Daniels finally made his in-ring debut against Jim Duggan. Daniels put his cruiserweight skills to good use, moving with a fluidity that the hapless Duggan could not answer. He avoided Duggan's sloppy telegraphed punches and had fun humiliating him before eventually winning with a move dubbed <a href="http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/FCDiary/WCW/Best%20Moonsault%20Ever%201.gif~original" rel="external nofollow">Angel's Descent.</a> (C-) Booker T cuts a short backstage promo taunting Arn Anderson about feeling the heat due to refusing to give him his title match. (B) Vignette: Lex Luger goes to a hardware store and buys a bunch of paint. Just what is the Total Package up to? (B-) During a women's tag team match pitting Madusa and Alexis Laree against Etsuko Mita and Takako Inoue, Mike and I made it official that Madusa will get a title shot at Slamboree. Unfortunately the challenger came out on the wrong end tonight as Inoue knocked her out with her Night Night spinning backfist from the apron and Mita made the cover. (C-) Backstage: Jeff Hardy and Scott Steiner argue about their Ultimate Fan Series match at Slamboree. Scott says he's gonna "beat that dye right out of your stupid hair and send you runnin' back to that circus you came from!" Jeff shows his fearlessness and says they don't need to wait for Sunday, they can go right now! Scott tries to do just that, but Rick is there to calm him down while Matt leads his own brother away, telling him to save it for Slamboree. (B+) Our big main event six man tag gave a preview of two of Sunday's matches. The Empire operated as a unit, but the experience of Flair and Sting served as a nice equalizer. The x-factor wound up being AJ Styles, who countered an attempted Michinoku Driver into a rollup for a flash pin. If he does that on Sunday he'll be the new Cruiserweight champion! (B) <div style="text-align:center;">Spotlight Segment: http://i.imgur.com/sJZr1Hv.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/uj4FkBt.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9v49DN6.jpg Booker T came to the ring to further rub in all the chaos he was causing. He said chaos was what the world title picture deserved, because the title's credibility was damaged with every day that passed without him getting his title shot, and he was going to continue to bring that chaos every single night. Rey and RVD both came down to confront him. Both said that they owed him some payback for ruining their match at Clash of the Champions, attacking them the past two weeks, and in Misterio's case costing him the United States title. Booker laughed at their anger, calling them both "golden boys" and saying neither one of them had a right to complain after all the opportunities they kept getting. I kept all three guys scripted as I usually do whenever Rey has a speaking role, so there were no exceptional performances to note, but there also wasn't anybody tripping over their own words and dragging things down. Rey suggested that he and RVD take care of Booker right here and now, together, and Van Dam was on board with that idea. Just when it seemed like we were about to get a fight... "Hold it right there!" http://i.imgur.com/zAUQMDu.jpg Double A hurried to the ring and got between the three superstars. The commissioner said that he couldn't have the three of them getting into a fight right now and put the Slamboree main event at risk, especially after the way the Clash of the Champions main event ended. "But our main event is already in jeopardy, isn't that right, Booker? Our fans were very unhappy about you wrecking that great main event. Obviously you don't care about that, but I do, and the WCW front office does. That's why I made the rematch, and that's why I guaranteed that this time we'll have a winner. That's something everybody wants, from the fans to myself to the front office to RVD and Misterio themselves--everybody but you, Booker. You don't care about anything but yourself and your own single-minded pursuit of becoming a 5-time world heavyweight champion, even if you have to ruin highly anticipated matches to do it. "Now there are a lot of ways I could handle this, but none of them are good. I could suspend you and ban you from the building on Sunday, but knowing you, you'd probably find your way in somehow. I could threaten you with a pink slip if you get involved in this match, but that's just not an option for the long-term. Whatever I might think of your behavior of late, there's no denying that you're a world-class wrestler and a main event player. If we fire you, those sports entertainers in Connecticut would snap you up in a New York minute. You may be a little on the young side for them these days, but not even they are so blind as to overlook just how good you are, and I'm not about to let them get their greedy hands on you." Booker laughed and said the answer was obvious then: just give him the title shot like he should've done the moment he lost the title last July! Arn grimaced as if the very thought gave him a bad taste in his mouth. "RVD approached me and said he was more than willing to give you a title shot should he still be the champion after Sunday, and I'd wager that Rey's gonna want a piece of you no matter what, title or no title. Simply handing you the title match would seem to be the simplest solution, as much as I hate the idea of rewarding your behavior. But with everything you've done, all the whining you've done, it wouldn't surprise me if you wrecked the main event of Slamboree regardless just to be a nuisance. That's not something I or the WCW front office can allow to happen, so I've come to a decision. Booker T, you want a world title shot? You can have it--but there's a catch. Simply ordering you not to get involved on Sunday isn't enough of a guarantee for my taste, so instead you're going to be VERY involved. You'll have the best seat in the house, Booker, because you are going to be the special guest referee. If you call that match right down the middle and we get a clear winner without incident, you'll get the next shot at the title. If you don't? I can promise that you will never, ever get another world title match so long as I'm the commissioner!" Booker smiled and thanked Arn for finally coming to his senses. He promised that he would be a perfectly impartial ref. "And why shouldn't I be? RVD, Rey--it don't matter one bit who's holdin' the title after Slamboree, because you are lookin' at the soon-to-be 5 time heavyweight champion of the world! Now can..you...dig..." Booker was cut off as Rey suddenly hit him with a hurricanrana! RVD shrugged, then joined in the fun with a Five Star Frog Splash! Not exactly the best way for either guy to ingratiate themselves to the guest ref for their world title match. Grade: B+ Show Grade: B http://i.imgur.com/pBTSX2H.jpg Taped immediately after Nitro Announce Team: Tony Schiavone and Tracy Brooks </div> Kaz Hayashi got his hand raised against Air Paris. (B-) True Heroes pre-match promo taunting the Road Warriors, who Punk mockingly calls "O.L.D." (C+) True Heroes picked up a non-title win against Alex Wright and Norman Smiley. (B) Jeff Hardy and Scott Steiner pre-taped promos about their UFS match at Slamboree. (B+) <div style="text-align:center;">Show Grade: B </div> </div></blockquote> <hr noshade size=3> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/QQTM7vx.jpg</div> Fan Scorecard: World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T) Will Booker T be an impartial referee? United States Heavyweight Championship: Sean O'Haire vs. Shane Douglas {©} World Tag Team Championship: The Road Warriors vs. True Heroes {©} Cruiserweight Championship: AJ Styles vs. TAKA {©} World Women's Championship: Madusa vs. Etsuko Mita {©} Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? "Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ??? Who will answer Helms' open challenge? What will be match of the night? How many championships will change hands? General diary comments/questions/critiques: </div></blockquote>

Uncrewed · April 5, 2017

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee?- Nope

United States Heavyweight Championship: Sean O'Haire vs. Shane Douglas {©}

World Tag Team Championship: The Road Warriors vs. True Heroes {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: AJ Styles vs. TAKA {©}

World Women's Championship: Madusa vs. Etsuko Mita {©}

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who?- Lex Luger & Buff Bagwell

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge?- American Dragon

What will be match of the night?- Sting & Flair/Empire

How many championships will change hands?- 0

KnowYourEnemy · April 5, 2017

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? No.

United States Heavyweight Championship: Sean O'Haire vs. Shane Douglas {©}

World Tag Team Championship: The Road Warriors vs. True Heroes {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: AJ Styles vs. TAKA {©}

World Women's Championship: Madusa vs. Etsuko Mita {©}

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? Hugh Morris & Konnan

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? Shannon Moore

What will be match of the night? Rey Mysterio vs. RVD

How many championships will change hands? 2

General diary comments/questions/critiques:

The Lariat · April 5, 2017

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? Nope

United States Heavyweight Championship: Sean O'Haire vs. Shane Douglas {©}

World Tag Team Championship: The Road Warriors vs. True Heroes {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: AJ Styles vs. TAKA {©}

World Women's Championship: Madusa vs. Etsuko Mita {©}

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? Hugh Morrus and Konnan

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? Jaime Knoble

What will be match of the night?

How many championships will change hands?

General diary comments/questions/critiques: Let's forget about Big Vito and get behind Johnny The Bull.

Aside from that, I think you're doing quite well. The only thing I notice is a lack of credible upper midcard faces, but I imagine that's still a work in progress.

DGenerationMC · April 5, 2017

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? No

United States Heavyweight Championship: Sean O'Haire vs. Shane Douglas {©}

World Tag Team Championship: The Road Warriors vs. True Heroes {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: AJ Styles vs. TAKA {©}

World Women's Championship: Madusa vs. Etsuko Mita {©}

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? I have no idea, Shaggy 2 Dope & Violent J?

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? American Dragon

What will be match of the night? World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

How many championships will change hands? 0

K-Nection · April 5, 2017

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? Yes

United States Heavyweight Championship: Sean O'Haire vs. Shane Douglas {©}

World Tag Team Championship: The Road Warriors vs. True Heroes {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: AJ Styles vs. TAKA {©}

World Women's Championship: Madusa vs. Etsuko Mita {©}

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flairvs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? 3 Count

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? Matt Hardy

What will be match of the night? Rey vs. RVD

How many championships will change hands? 0

General diary comments/questions/critiques: This is one of your most unpredictable cards to me....I think my streak at the top of the mountain is in true jeopardy lol.

Kijar · April 5, 2017

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? Not a chance

United States Heavyweight Championship: Sean O'Haire vs. Shane Douglas {©}

But damn do I like O'Haire.

World Tag Team Championship: The Road Warriors vs. True Heroes {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: AJ Styles vs. TAKA {©}

Unlikely he'd win at this stage, but I'd be remiss if I didn't pick him.

World Women's Championship: Madusa vs. Etsuko Mita {©}

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? Shannon Moore & Evan Karagias

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? Am-Drag

What will be match of the night? 619/RVD

How many championships will change hands? I count 1.

jscotty · April 5, 2017

Fan Scorecard:

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? Yes

United States Heavyweight Championship: Sean O'Haire vs. Shane Douglas {©}

World Tag Team Championship: The Road Warriors vs. True Heroes {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: AJ Styles vs. TAKA {©}

World Women's Championship: Madusa vs. Etsuko Mita {©}

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? Hugh Morrus and Konnan

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? Matt Hardy

What will be match of the night? Rey/RVD

How many championships will change hands? Zero

Briskout · April 5, 2017

Fan Scorecard:

World Heavyweight Championship: Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? if by impartial, you mean he'll treat both the same then sure <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

United States Heavyweight Championship: Shane Douglas {©}

-I personally love Shane Douglas so.

World Tag Team Championship: The Road Warriors

-Perfect time to have the Heroes lose the titles, if only to hotshot the titles back on them. Some work with the Road Warriors might put them over.

Cruiserweight Championship: TAKA {©}

-Indeed

World Women's Championship: Etsuko Mita {©}

-While Madusa is more over in the states, just doesn't make sense. Mita winning puts over the title.

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair

-Flair needs a win or else why should the Empire continue to bother?

Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? Yes. If so, who? Let's go with Elix Skipper and Kid Romeo... :/

???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? Does Matt fit as a Cruiserweight?

What will be match of the night? Douglas/O'Haire.

How many championships will change hands? 1

General diary comments/questions/critiques: 2 posts works perfectly in my opinion.

Wolfman84 · April 5, 2017

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee?

United States Heavyweight Championship: Sean O'Haire vs. Shane Douglas {©}

World Tag Team Championship: The Road Warriors vs. True Heroes {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: AJ Styles vs. TAKA {©}

World Women's Championship: Madusa vs. Etsuko Mita {©}

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? Hugh Morris & Konnan

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? American Dragon

What will be match of the night? Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam

How many championships will change hands? 1

Happy0wns · April 5, 2017

Fan Scorecard:

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? No

United States Heavyweight Championship: Sean O'Haire vs. Shane Douglas {©}

World Tag Team Championship: The Road Warriors vs. True Heroes {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: AJ Styles vs. TAKA {©}

World Women's Championship: Madusa vs. Etsuko Mita {©}

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? nope

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? Kaz Hayashi

What will be match of the night? Rey v Rob

How many championships will change hands? 1

General diary comments/questions/critiques:

Satyr24 · April 5, 2017

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? Yep

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? Yes Insane Clown Posse

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? American Dragon

What will be match of the night? RVD vs Rey

How many championships will change hands? 1

General diary comments/questions/critiques: Salvation can help bring back Alex Wright Evil Side Berlyn now that they need a new running bud

michgcs · April 5, 2017

Fan Scorecard:

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? Hard choice... YES

I was hoping that Arn would make it a Triple Threat match; no dice, I guess. Maybe next month?

I like the new Douglas pic, he looks like a big deal now!

I can see the Road Warriors winning but can't bet against the True Heroes

Maybe via count-out or DQ?

Just so we'll get a title change?

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

I love this match-up and I think I gotta go with Jeff to tie things up

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Would love a Double-C win but Sting and Flair just have too much star power

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? Luger and Bagwell?

Gotta keep Salvation strong but Vampiro... I dunno. He's a jerk so cut him loose <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? Chavo Guerrero

At first I considered Christopher Daniels but they're both heels right now,

right? So maybe Jamie Knoble... but then Chavo's got this thing with AmDrag so maybe Chavo answer the call and has Dragon inadvertently help him get the win

What will be match of the night? AJ-Taka

How many championships will change hands? 1

General diary comments/questions/critiques: Pretty tough PPV to pick, and that's a good thing! I can see things going a lot of different ways so I'm excited to see how it plays out!

franticloser · April 5, 2017

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? No

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? ICP

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? Psicosis

What will be match of the night? RVD vs Mysterio

How many championships will change hands? 1

smw88 · April 5, 2017

World Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Rob Van Dam {©} (w/guest referee Booker T)

Will Booker T be an impartial referee? No

Ultimate Fan Series Finals--#2 Agents of Chaos vs. #4 The Dead Jesters (Agents of Chaos lead 2-1): "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner vs. Jeff Hardy

Sting and "Nature Boy" Ric Flair vs. Chris Candido and King Corino of The Empire

Vampiro and ??? vs. Salvation

Will Vampiro find two partners? If so, who? ICP

"Sugar" Shane Helms vs. ???

Who will answer Helms' open challenge? American Dragon

What will be match of the night? World title (although cruiserweight should be close)

How many championships will change hands? 2

General diary comments/questions/critiques:

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