CM_Punk21 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 Ughhhh, I guess I'll have to restart my ROH save now. Maybe this time I'll remember to sign a referee lol. Sorry mate . I suggest not to begin a long term save until the mod passes the BETA phase... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukkearthur Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 So hard going back to Kyky pictures but thank you for this mod! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_Punk21 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 So hard going back to Kyky pictures but thank you for this mod! Enjoy mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Mod is looking good, especially if this is only the beta. Mexico is always difficult due to the number of workers they seem to use in CMLL. I think in 2003 they used 200+ Luchadors, of which 80 maybe appeared more than 20 times. I don't know if you are using Cagematch or not but it has rosters for each year the company was active so it is a good starting point to build from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_Punk21 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 Mod is looking good, especially if this is only the beta. Mexico is always difficult due to the number of workers they seem to use in CMLL. I think in 2003 they used 200+ Luchadors, of which 80 maybe appeared more than 20 times. I don't know if you are using Cagematch or not but it has rosters for each year the company was active so it is a good starting point to build from. Thanks, yes I use Cagematch for my rosters and other information (events from 2003 etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazymaskedadore Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 <p>Raid</p><p> </p><p> Mark Briscoe, CM Punk, Aj Styles, Steve Corino, and Low Ki all get raided out of ROH into AJPW,CMLL,AAA and WWE on written deals right off the bat. would highly suggest either nerfing their skills or pop so this doesn't happen.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatIsraeliGuy Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazymaskedadore" data-cite="lazymaskedadore" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Mark Briscoe, CM Punk, Aj Styles, Steve Corino, and Low Ki all get raided out of ROH into AJPW,CMLL,AAA and WWE on written deals right off the bat. would highly suggest either nerfing their skills or pop so this doesn't happen.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Another way is to add loyalty to ROH on some (Low Ki, Briscoe and Corino are most realistic), that way they won't sign an exclusive deal with anyone but ROH.</p><p> Punk is a bit of a tough one since he signed with WWE in 2005</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNWO Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Maybe have him be on a 2 year deal w/ loyalty but a bad relationship with the owner so he'll leave after? Since iirc you can sign people with loyalty to writtens if they're not with the company they're loyal to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DatIsraeliGuy" data-cite="DatIsraeliGuy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Another way is to add loyalty to ROH on some (Low Ki, Briscoe and Corino are most realistic), that way they won't sign an exclusive deal with anyone but ROH.<p> Punk is a bit of a tough one since he signed with WWE in 2005</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No. The loyalty mechanic is meant for Japanese workers only and is insanely unrealistic. </p><p> </p><p> Low Ki isn't loyal in the slightest anyway. He'd literally go anywhere that would pay his asinine booking fee.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_Punk21 Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 No. The loyalty mechanic is meant for Japanese workers only and is insanely unrealistic. Low Ki isn't loyal in the slightest anyway. He'd literally go anywhere that would pay his asinine booking fee. I agree with Jaysin here. The loyalty thing is mostly for Japanese wrestlers. I will set Corino to freelance (because he wasn't with any company for long back then). To keep the mod realistic i'll leave others as they are but you can set the loyalty for yourselves if you decide to play as ROH or TNA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I'm pretty sure Antonio Inoki didn't run NJPW in 2003, he was a major shareholder, yes, but I'm almost certain Tatsumi Fujinami was running the company in 2003 as CEO/President. As that is a viable option in TEW, and given Inokis limited involvement in 2003, should Fujinami maybe set as the CEO rather than Inoki the owner? Your mod of course Punk but just for realism sake I thought I'd give it a mention and see what you thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_Punk21 Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 I'm pretty sure Antonio Inoki didn't run NJPW in 2003, he was a major shareholder, yes, but I'm almost certain Tatsumi Fujinami was running the company in 2003 as CEO/President. As that is a viable option in TEW, and given Inokis limited involvement in 2003, should Fujinami maybe set as the CEO rather than Inoki the owner? Your mod of course Punk but just for realism sake I thought I'd give it a mention and see what you thought. Thanks for the feedback, I'll add this to my to-do list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_crippler_2004 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Title Histories great improvement on title historys i have noticed a couple of tweaks that could improve them...i will look in depth more 4/7/17, but gotta say great detail and improvement into historys and quick turn around time too. i cant wait for full release of this mod as 2003 was a interesting year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_Punk21 Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 great improvement on title historys i have noticed a couple of tweaks that could improve them...i will look in depth more 4/7/17, but gotta say great detail and improvement into historys and quick turn around time too. i cant wait for full release of this mod as 2003 was a interesting year. Thank you :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LigerLiger Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm pretty sure Antonio Inoki didn't run NJPW in 2003, he was a major shareholder, yes, but I'm almost certain Tatsumi Fujinami was running the company in 2003 as CEO/President. As that is a viable option in TEW, and given Inokis limited involvement in 2003, should Fujinami maybe set as the CEO rather than Inoki the owner? Your mod of course Punk but just for realism sake I thought I'd give it a mention and see what you thought. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Inoki was set as owner mostly because putting other person there might cause their product to unrealistically change. Inoki had his MMA thing going on, but Fujinami would likely have to be set as preferring actual puroresu and would change the product. After all, the whole direction the company was going was the direction Inoki wanted to. And history told us he was too stubborn to change it.</p><p> </p><p> It is currently impossible for us to accurately set owner changes over time, so Inoki was left there since it was still "his" company, even during the time frames he did not run it(IIRC there was a period in the '80s or '90s where he wasn't directly running too). Maybe setting Fujinami to like MMA-Influenced wrestling would solve it(Inoki would need a written contract so that he doesn't leave to book AJPW or something), but it also feels wrong for me <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Still, the game isn't supposed to accurately follow history. So I think there's no need for a whole debate, but since it was I who put Inoki there in the first place I thought it'd be a good idea to explain why.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_Punk21 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Liger!Liger!" data-cite="Liger!Liger!" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Inoki was set as owner mostly because putting other person there might cause their product to unrealistically change. Inoki had his MMA thing going on, but Fujinami would likely have to be set as preferring actual puroresu and would change the product. After all, the whole direction the company was going was the direction Inoki wanted to. And history told us he was too stubborn to change it.<p> </p><p> It is currently impossible for us to accurately set owner changes over time, so Inoki was left there since it was still "his" company, even during the time frames he did not run it(IIRC there was a period in the '80s or '90s where he wasn't directly running too). Maybe setting Fujinami to like MMA-Influenced wrestling would solve it(Inoki would need a written contract so that he doesn't leave to book AJPW or something), but it also feels wrong for me <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Still, the game isn't supposed to accurately follow history. So I think there's no need for a whole debate, but since it was I who put Inoki there in the first place I thought it'd be a good idea to explain why.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So, should I leave Tatsumi Fujinami as CEO or set back Inoki as the Owner?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatIsraeliGuy Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 <p>just checking out the new update and it seems that all workers don't have their pictures assigned, i went to mass edit and it worked so maybe it's just for me?</p><p> anyways, WWE's developmental territory is WWE Developmental when I think it was OVW</p><p> </p><p> I also think maybe giving ROH a teeny tiny bit more momentum is fair? I could be wrong, but I do love ROH lol</p><p> You seem to have two Justin Credible's only one with his real name, should remove one</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LigerLiger Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazymaskedadore" data-cite="lazymaskedadore" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Mark Briscoe, CM Punk, Aj Styles, Steve Corino, and Low Ki all get raided out of ROH into AJPW,CMLL,AAA and WWE on written deals right off the bat. would highly suggest either nerfing their skills or pop so this doesn't happen.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'd assume AAA and CMLL's case are because of roster size. For AJPW tweaking Motoko's roster size preference might work too. WWE, well, it's 2003, nobody can do anything about it <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CM_Punk21" data-cite="CM_Punk21" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So, should I leave Tatsumi Fujinami as CEO or set back Inoki as the Owner?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If Fujinami can also work and is more realistic, let it be.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowYourEnemy Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DatIsraeliGuy" data-cite="DatIsraeliGuy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Another way is to add loyalty to ROH on some (Low Ki, Briscoe and Corino are most realistic), that way they won't sign an exclusive deal with anyone but ROH.<p> Punk is a bit of a tough one since he signed with WWE in 2005</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was able to "fix" this problem in the default CVerse data by changing owner business skills -- notably, lowering owner roster size value. I noticed hiring practices were closely tied to owner preferences from the start -- later companies would pick up workers, but not within the first month. </p><p> </p><p> Take Vince for example. By lowering his owner roster size value, Vince won't hire more workers off the bat. The same with NJPW and Fujinami -- since this is a set value, lowering below the threshold should prevent excessive hires. These values are displayed in the company information page. </p><p> </p><p> If you're worried about realism, simply add enhancement talent to PPA deals for WWE -- see who's working consistently for the company at this period, and set contract length long enough to reflect their status with the company. WWE probably won't renew these workers until their contact comes up unless another company tries to hire them away.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_Punk21 Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DatIsraeliGuy" data-cite="DatIsraeliGuy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>just checking out the new update and it seems that all workers don't have their pictures assigned, i went to mass edit and it worked so maybe it's just for me?<p> anyways, WWE's developmental territory is WWE Developmental when I think it was OVW</p><p> </p><p> I also think maybe giving ROH a teeny tiny bit more momentum is fair? I could be wrong, but I do love ROH lol</p><p> You seem to have two Justin Credible's only one with his real name, should remove one</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Did you download the new Picture Pack? For me every pic is asiggned, also OVW is WWE's developmental territory (WWE Developmental is the alliance between OVW and WWE). </p><p> BTW Thanks for the feedback <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_Punk21 Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Liger!Liger!" data-cite="Liger!Liger!" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If Fujinami can also work and is more realistic, let it be.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ok.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatIsraeliGuy Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CM_Punk21" data-cite="CM_Punk21" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Did you download the new Picture Pack? For me every pic is asiggned, also OVW is WWE's developmental territory (WWE Developmental is the alliance between OVW and WWE). <p> BTW Thanks for the feedback <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I just realized there's a new picture pack, that must be it.</p><p> My bad on OVW and I love helping with feedback since after all, I will be the one playing</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-619 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 This is a really interesting time in wrestling. I haven't played TEW in a while so this might do the trick to get me back into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_crippler_2004 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Japan, Mexican historys Great updates on american title belts, but Japan and Mexico also have a rich lineage. Look closely at wwe as some historys have real peoples names on like Scott Taylor instead of scotty2hotty. Great mod but needs tweaking all historys and ensuring they have real names who won that title. I cant wait to play this as real interesting time in business. But can see bigger and better things in future from this mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_Punk21 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 <p>New Update (1.2)</p><p> </p><p> Thanks for the kind words guys <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> now it's time for a new update!</p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size:12px;"> Main Post Updated with a </span></strong><a href="http://www.mediafire.com/file/khr7haj43748haz/1.2beta2003.zip" rel="external nofollow"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">link</span></strong></a><strong><span style="font-size:12px;"> of 1.2 BETA</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <em>A quick update, I've fixed the things that you reported (thank you!), also added the roster for IWA PR (Still no rosters for AAA, CMLL as it takes time but i'll get to finish them by the next update). As always please report any errors, bugs, mistakes etc. </em></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">What's new: </span></strong><p> <strong>1.2 BETA</strong></p><p> - Added a relationship between Kurt Angle & Edge (Strong Friendship)</p><p> - Set Steve Corino's loyalty to freelance </p><p> - Adjusted Chris Harris' popularity</p><p> - Changed Borash's contract from Ex. PPA to Written</p><p> - Assigned gimmick to Chad Patton, Charles Robinson, Jack Doan, Jim Korderas & Mike Chioda (Staff Member)</p><p> - Jamal' & Rosey's contract set to expire in 9 months</p><p> - Replaced Inoki with Tatsumi Fujinami as CEO of NJPW</p><p> - Removed Justin Credible's duplicate</p><p> - Adjusted ROH's momentum to C+</p><p> - Added the End of the Year awards for 2000, 2001 & 2002</p><p> - Added the IWA PR roster</p><p> - Changed Stephanie McMahon's pust from manager to authority figure (she was the SD! GM at the time)</p><p> - Changed Terri's push from manager to personality (she was the interviewer on RAW)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Enjoy <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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