BlueStar Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You outed the cult but don't want to lynch them?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not necessarily, if you already know who the threat is, then the threat diminishes, scum are the people that are killing us, and this is the one thing they would rather have us do, if we just go with the easy lynch, without advancing anything further, we are basically handing scum a free pass for the day. Seeing as DJ is already set to blast people to kingdom come. Why not use the day to seek further information, because the way I see it, the group that would benefit this lynch, is scum not the crew.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nope, if this is Cult, we got someone that got recruited. We didn't get the recruiter. And obviously, he can get to more than redshirts (see last night).</p><p> </p><p> Anyone played Zero Time Dilemma? That would make DJ all the knights in the Rec Room. I call bluff (and I'm not calling DJ scum with this, I just call the bluff). </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>bak42 is obviously the lynch candidate for today but it doesn't mean we can't use the phase productively.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not defending him outright but bak42 did vote on IER. Not sure the recruiter would do that. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>@DJ you think six mafia even with a cult?<p> </p><p> With none off the board yet that would mean two mislynches and it’s all over, or even less based on other night kills.</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: Bak42</span></strong> for now...but I’d really like to get deep into the mafia side of things soon. Few things I’ve really liked today but this one seems like the safe bet.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm with Show. 6 red scum, a possible cult, TBP (N1) coming up black.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 What do we have on Zergon so far? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergon Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What do we have on Zergon so far? Anyone?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Probably not much, I have been offering to answer questions since day 2 but nothing haven´t been asked so far.</p><p> </p><p> So if you have questions feel free to ask, need to go to sleep soon as it´s almost 10 pm for me but I answer them as soon as I can.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Probably not much, I have been offering to answer questions since day 2 but nothing haven´t been asked so far.<p> </p><p> So if you have questions feel free to ask, need to go to sleep soon as it´s almost 10 pm for me but I answer them as soon as I can.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How do you feel about the people who voted on Archer day two but not day three and vice versa?</p><p> </p><p> How deep do you think the cult is at the moment?</p><p> </p><p> How many mafia members?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The last part worries me. Cult is a problem for town as numbers on town generally decrease and Cult increases...are you the Cult recruiter, mon cher? <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I understand where you're coming from and yes, cult are bad and a problem. I just feel like we're at a point where if we use a lynch on cult then we lose a day phase we could've lynched mafia and letting another townie die.</p><p> </p><p> If this was like day 3, I'd say lynch away. Scum is scum. But being day 5, I'm more cautious about where we go. I'd really like to see a red flip this day phase.</p><p> </p><p> Also: Just to make sure we're on the same page, if Leion is correct (and I have no reason to doubt him) Mich and Bak are the cult. Mich claimed investigator yesterday so the cult recruitment makes sense and means Bak is the recruiter.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Probably not much, I have been offering to answer questions since day 2 but nothing haven´t been asked so far.<p> </p><p> So if you have questions feel free to ask, need to go to sleep soon as it´s almost 10 pm for me but I answer them as soon as I can.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Instead of just being willing to answer questions, it helps to ask questions and push conversation yourself as well. Don't be afraid to investigate your own path even if it is a different direction from what others are focusing on.</p><p> </p><p> But I'll ask you one. How many mafia do you think there are? And right this second, who would you say they are?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Opulent" data-cite="Opulent" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- my top two reads from this post would be bak or lukess, but I will ride or die one of Showtime or Rev being scum. I can’t get over that slip where Showtime called EP scum after he died. His character claim doesn’t overwhelm threadplay imo</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you had to pick one, Rev or Showtime?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As for Opulent's post. I am starting to get more wary of Rev as well. Curious as to what his reply would be. But I can't wait all night, see you all in the morning, don't lynch someone without me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't see the Rev read but I'm willing to listen. What are either of you seeing?</p><p> </p><p> And what are both of your thoughts on DJ/MLT/Destiny?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I understand where you're coming from and yes, cult are bad and a problem. I just feel like we're at a point where if we use a lynch on cult then we lose a day phase we could've lynched mafia and letting another townie die.<p> </p><p> If this was like day 3, I'd say lynch away. Scum is scum. But being day 5, I'm more cautious about where we go. I'd really like to see a red flip this day phase.</p><p> </p><p> Also: Just to make sure we're on the same page, if Leion is correct (and I have no reason to doubt him) Mich and Bak are the cult. Mich claimed investigator yesterday so the cult recruitment makes sense and means Bak is the recruiter.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Instead of just being willing to answer questions, it helps to ask questions and push conversation yourself as well. Don't be afraid to investigate your own path even if it is a different direction from what others are focusing on.</p><p> </p><p> But I'll ask you one. How many mafia do you think there are? And right this second, who would you say they are?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Somehow, I don't think Bak would bus his recruitee. (is that English?) But that's a gut feeling.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergon Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How do you feel about the people who voted on Archer day two but not day three and vice versa?<p> </p><p> How deep do you think the cult is at the moment?</p><p> </p><p> How many mafia members?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> First of all, for recerence here´s the ones who voted Archer only either Day 2 or Day 3</p><p> Voted on Archer Only on Day Two: Emark, Zergon, Rev, DJ</p><p> Voted on Archer Only on Day Three: Michgcs, EP, BHK, Leion</p><p> </p><p> I did gave my reads last day phase but since some things have chanced here´s a recap</p><p> </p><p> Emark: Quite neutral on him, was suspected day 1 but hasn´t been on radar since.</p><p> Rev: Moves conversation forward and have had some good points, probably one I would trust most at this point but not enough to clear him as town.</p><p> DJ: similar to Rev but as I said earlier today, after re-reading last day phase I´m slighly more suspicious on him than before.</p><p> </p><p> Michgcs: obviously thought town with reveal on last day but what Leion posted this day flipped that to it´s head. I do believe Leion so assuming Michgcs is cult now.</p><p> Leion: Assuming he speaks truth on what he said earlier on this day phase so probably the only guy I would clear as town right now.</p><p> </p><p> Do you mean how deep as how many members or something else? If members I believe there was two from the beginning (young guy on podium and the hear hear person) so basically Bak and IER. Night write-ups seem to point on three failed recruit attemps before a succesful one last night so my current guess is two after IER was lynched.</p><p> </p><p> Guess it´s less than 6 with cult and another neutral guy out there so 4 or 5 members would be my guess.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you had to pick one, Rev or Showtime?<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I don't see the Rev read but I'm willing to listen. What are either of you seeing?</p><p> </p><p> And what are both of your thoughts on DJ/MLT/Destiny?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I always have trouble reading Showtime but in this game, he's been in the driving seat.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Somehow, I don't think Bak would bus his recruitee. (is that English?) But that's a gut feeling.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm not really sure what you're getting at. Showtime claimed "driving the ship" so I've been working under the assumption that he was the busdriver. I think I'm misunderstanding you.</p><p> </p><p> Also: What are your thoughts for a direction this day phase?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <p>Oh... I'm connecting the dots of what you're saying. </p><p> </p><p> So you think Showtime is letting town be misled?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <p>Let's also recall IER's claim...he said he needed the captain to be dead to win. A disgruntled crewmember would probably not have that win condition. That means Cult can communicate...(that has not always been the case in previous games from back in the dinosaur days). </p><p> </p><p> If we're gunning for the cult, lets go for the leader/recruiter.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh... I'm connecting the dots of what you're saying. <p> </p><p> So you think Showtime is letting town be misled?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Naa, my bad English. I think he's actually pretty much "town" like...I always have him as a pretty much background player.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm not really sure what you're getting at. Showtime claimed "driving the ship" so I've been working under the assumption that he was the busdriver. I think I'm misunderstanding you.<p> </p><p> Also: What are your thoughts for a direction this day phase?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> See above. Though I'm not sure at all about bak.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_lit_tears Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Figures, I missed it and took it as a "I would believe it, so you should as well unless you're just scum throwing town off" kind of post, kind of like the way you been throwing me shade and changing what I actually said to meet an agenda (at least felt like it). If that's the way you throw hints out, it totally went over my head, as it felt more like you implying/laying groundwork for a case of me being scum.<p> </p><p> So... I see you're willing to die tonight if the majority of the rest are scum. Sucks, because that is the most townie thing I have seen from you all game... and I definitely would have chose a different target last phase had I picked up on you're hints.</p><p> </p><p> But.. It wouldn't be me to point out that the Don traditionally doesn't have to do anything at night, nor would they traditionally come up as town if investigated. </p><p> </p><p> Hoping you're not town to be honest, but I am totally leaning to you being town after that last post.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>1. I don't know if I believe it. I think he might be something else and if he is he is genious.<p> </p><p> 2. MLT. She has just rubbed me wrong the whole game. I've been sus of her the whole game and can't shake that feeling for whatever reason.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just quoting this fir you guys to look back on. </p><p> </p><p> @DJ. Please push that button. IF one of the other two are scum I am fine taking the hit fir town, but please get a Luke next.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Just checked back...bak did get the hammer vote. That makes me a bit less sure about my previous statements. In my first game (way back about 16-17 years ago) I hammered fellow scum gonvick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just quoting this fir you guys to look back on. <p> </p><p> @DJ. Please push that button. IF one of the other two are scum I am fine taking the hit fir town, but please get a Luke next.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This doesn't look good for you. Don't play bitter.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <p>Also : remember N0 - Red AND Orange are part of the same gang it seems. I knew something was off....</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Night Zero</strong><p> </p><p> </p><p> ---------------------------------</p><p> </p><p> A quiet room, luxurious, but not overly so. A group sits around a table covered in food and paperwork.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FF0000;">”So everyone knows the plan? You know what you need to do?”</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FFA500;">”Yes boss. We’ve all got our jobs. You just sit tight and we’ll take care of everything.”</span></p><p> </p><p> <em>*FLIIIIIP, CRUNCH CRUNCH*</em></p><p> </p><p> The entire group turns their heads to the sight of a mustachioed man seated upon a sofa in the back corner. He pops another crunchy potato chip in his mouth and turns another page.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FF0000;">”Who are you?</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#0000FF;">"Scruffy. The janitor."</span></p><p> </p><p> The seeming head honcho stutters through confused non-replies for a moment. Scruffy flips another page of what we now notice is a girly magazine.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FF0000;">”Well, kill him! He’s seen too much!”</span></p><p> </p><p> A muscly fellow gets up from the table. Scruffy, resigned to, and familiar with, his fate, pops another chip and sighs.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Rayelek is dead. He was the </strong><strong><span style="color:#0000FF;">Crew Aligned Janitor.</span></strong></p></div></blockquote> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>See above. Though I'm not sure at all about bak.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So you're saying Mich and Bak are cult? Because that was where we were at already, I thought.</p><p> </p><p> I swear I'm not trying to be dense to you, so I'm sorry.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergon Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just checked back...bak did get the hammer vote. That makes me a bit less sure about my previous statements. In my first game (way back about 16-17 years ago) I hammered fellow scum gonvick.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Think that lynch would have been done regardless so I wouldn´t personally put too much weight into that.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This doesn't look good for you. Don't play bitter.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I disagree, if town can get a consensus list I wouldn’t mind the trade off at all. The only problem is DJ is the one who floated 6 mafia out there and if that’s true it’s basically impossible to use his world ending ability</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_lit_tears Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This doesn't look good for you. Don't play bitter.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How am I bitter? Because I think you’re acting pretty scummy? </p><p> </p><p> Why is it all you have is a feeling of me being scummy, most people in the game have, yet I’m guessing a watcher, tracker, roleblocker hasn’t found anything, but if I feel you’re scummy, I’m bitter? </p><p> </p><p> Right.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So you're saying Mich and Bak are cult? Because that was where we were at already, I thought.<p> </p><p> I swear I'm not trying to be dense to you, so I'm sorry.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No worries. I'm (still) not sold on bak (and will probably be wrong) and see the N0 write-up.</p><p> </p><p> Any opinion about that?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How am I bitter? Because I think you’re acting pretty scummy? <p> </p><p> Why is it all you have is a feeling of me being scummy, most people in the game have, yet I’m guessing a watcher, tracker, roleblocker hasn’t found anything, but if I feel you’re scummy, I’m bitter? </p><p> </p><p> Right.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You only feel I'm scummy because I am sus of you. That is bitterness.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_lit_tears Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You only feel I'm scummy because I am sus of you. That is bitterness.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Lol. K.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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