Effingham Heights: A Game of Homes Mafia Game Thread

[Tha Black Phenom]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You forgot to include the post where I asked you the question. Don't think that's a loophole. When you say you "did not" you mean you didn't target anyone who died last night right? <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I did not target anyone who died last night.</p>

[Destiny]

Fair enough. I've really overdone it tonight. DJ, talking to Derek only and just popping in to put me on the council isn't good enough. Come back. Feelings, reads etc? Sleep time now.

[FellaLibby]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Where has Libby been this phase btw?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> At the store, buying more food. My target was not in the write up this past phase but I'll level with you guys saying I targeted Chris. My entire ability is to bring people around one person so they cannot do anything. So yes, I'm a role blocker.</p><p> </p><p> I only targeted Chris only because I wanted to see if it would appear on the write up. I don't believe he is scum.</p>

[FellaLibby]

And before anyone asks, no. I have done zero targeting this entire game. My first and only target has been Chris which only happened last night phase. I haven't targeted, sought out others, nor hunted anybody in any other phase other than the last. So I have no information to share on the matter.

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm down with TBP and MoT lynches. I also want to draw attention to something I've been piecing together.....<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I've gone back and forth on this and I do believe that it's Showtime who killed Emark, and the mafia who killed Showtime. I believe I know where showtime got the kill from and that means that the Realty group don't have a kill.</p><p> </p><p> With no signs of people being protected from a kill last night, that means that there are two people I know that could be the Realty aligned killer. Rabbitman had one person partying at his place.... and the other I had locked down last night as I was roleblocking them.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-size:18px;"><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">FellaLibby OR lukess11 are the Realty Aligned Killer</span></strong></span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> One problem with libby being a killer in this is that rabbit man says his ability protects and role blocks his party members.</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>At the store, buying more food. My target was not in the write up this past phase but I'll level with you guys saying I targeted Chris. My entire ability is to bring people around one person so they cannot do anything. So yes, I'm a role blocker.<p> </p><p> I only targeted Chris only because I wanted to see if it would appear on the write up. I don't believe he is scum.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What do you mean bring people around one person?</p>

[FellaLibby]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What do you mean bring people around one person?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Its a role play thing. The civis pile around my food which I bring to one actual person. Say I target you MoT. The people around you are nobodies. Not anybody else and you can't go or do anything.</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

How do we have two town role blockers?

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<p>Also I am willing to go this route. </p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Change vote: tha black phenom</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

kill all survivor claims.</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sorry for the flood of posts, trying to make up for lost time and going to sleep soon so thought it'd be better to get this out of the way. <p> </p><p> I'm a data analyst and have a one-shot ability to look at 2 lynches and get some info on non-towns who voted.</p><p> </p><p> Ideally I would've waited until today's lynch was settled but seeing as I'm one of the potential lynchees, I figured better to use it now. </p><p> </p><p> D1 EddieFNG </p><p> EddieFnG: 4 (Derek B, Rayelek, Destiny, eayragt)</p><p> </p><p> D2 eayragt</p><p> eayragt: 10 (DeadCeleb, Emark, Tha Black Phenom, Destiny, Teh_Showtime, Memory of Talon, cappyboy, Eliphas, FellaLibby, djthefunkchris)</p><p> </p><p> My results say that there were 2 more non-townies in eayragt's lynch (+/-1).</p><p> </p><p> Given that eayragt voted on the D1 lynch, that means there are 2-4 non-townies on the eayragt lynch.</p><p> </p><p> Let's take a look:</p><p> DeadCeleb - dead townie RIP</p><p> Emark - dead townie RIP</p><p> Tha Black Phenom </p><p> Destiny</p><p> Teh_Showtime - dead townie RIP</p><p> Memory of Talon</p><p> cappyboy - dead townie RIP</p><p> Eliphas - me, townie </p><p> Fella Libby - confirmed townie</p><p> djthefunkchris</p><p> </p><p> The list narrows down to TBP, Destiny, MoT, dj. They can very well all be scum but Destiny seems to be playing to his role AFAIK and if he trusts dj to be telling the truth... that means that TBP and MoT are both scum.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You say your results tell you 2 non-town in that stack Plus or Minus 1. How did you get to a possibility of between 2 and 4 from that?</p><p> </p><p> 2 plus or minus 1 would give you between 1 and 3 non-town in that list.</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<p>Also don't you have a result on the Eddie lynch?</p><p> </p><p>

That would also help narrow your list down because DJ and Destiny fall on the eayragt lynch as well.</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Where's this coming from? You believe the claim? Because I feel like you and MoT were the ones emphasizing how scummy Destiny had been prior to this day phase?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sorry I was going back through posts after work and caught this again. I caught onto Destiny's lie detector claim way back and have been defending him because of it. I never thought he was scummy. I saw what other people saw as role hunting from Destiny as him trying to get people to make posts so he can lie detect.</p>

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>One problem with libby being a killer in this is that rabbit man says his ability protects and role blocks his party members.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There was no Realty kill on Night 3. Lukess11 was roleblocked by me. FellaLibby was blocked by Rabbitman. There were no protections aganst kills shown in write ups. I explained that earlier. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How do we have two town role blockers?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ahahahahahahahahaha!!! The old "you can't have more than one thing" rule... funnily enough, I think I want to let DJ tell you about that because I've been telling him what is up all along.</p><p> </p><p> That said..... </p><p> </p><p> FellaLibby's actions this game summed up.</p><p> </p><p> Day 1: I bring people food!</p><p> Night 1: Doesn't bring people food.</p><p> Day 2: i'm going to do what I can and bring people food!</p><p> Night 2: Doesn't bring people food.</p><p> Day 3: I'm sorry for not bringing people food.</p><p> Night 3: Knows he can't do anything.</p><p> Day 4: Sorry about never bringing people food! And for being one of the few roles unaccounted for in any way. And being blocked when a kill goes missing. And for claiming one of the most common roles scum have. But never actually doing anything with it.</p><p> </p><p> I mean, I can be wrong. But any player who is active keeps failing to do what they say... they are either lying or playing badly. I know what happens to liars.</p>

[i effin rule]

<p><strong>It is now Day 4. You have until 9:00pm EDT (2:00am GMT) on Thursday, June 6th to vote and make nominations. The player with the most votes at the end of the phase will be lynched. The council enacted a rule making them immune to lynching for this phase.</strong></p><p><strong>

</strong></p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Nominations</span></strong></p><p>

<strong><em>Destiny: 3 (lukess11, Memory of Talon, djthefunkchris)</em></strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Lynch</span></strong></p><p>

Tha Black Phenom: 2 (Destiny, Too Sweet Spartan)</p><p>

FellaLibby: 1 (lukess11)</p><p>

Tha Black Phenom : 2 (Derek B, Memory of Talon)</p>

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>It is now Day 4. You have until 9:00pm EDT (2:00am GMT) on Thursday, June 6th to vote and make nominations. The player with the most votes at the end of the phase will be lynched. The council enacted a rule making them immune to lynching for this phase.</strong><p><strong> </strong></p><p> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Nominations</span></strong></p><p> <strong><em>Destiny: 3 (lukess11, Memory of Talon, djthefunkchris)</em></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Lynch</span></strong></p><p> Tha Black Phenom: 2 (Destiny, Too Sweet Spartan)</p><p> FellaLibby: 1 (lukess11)</p><p> Tha Black Phenom : 2 (Derek B, Memory of Talon)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Iiiiiiinteresting... 2 different vote trains on TBP? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[i effin rule]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Iiiiiiinteresting... 2 different vote trains on TBP? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It has been a long day...</p>

[Derek B]

<p>Mocking of IER aside... sort of... we should also be looking at candidates for the council this phase. I don't need or want it. I'm happy with any of 2 the following to go in alongside Destiny.</p><p> </p><p>

djthefunkchirs</p><p>

Rabbitman</p><p>

Too Sweet Spartan</p><p> </p><p>

We know there are a lot of scum out there still but I'd say anyone nominating people not in that group are making some bad moves. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[i effin rule]

<p><strong>It is now Day 4. You have until 9:00pm EDT (2:00am GMT) on Thursday, June 6th to vote and make nominations. The player with the most votes at the end of the phase will be lynched. The council enacted a rule making them immune to lynching for this phase.</strong></p><p><strong>

</strong></p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Nominations</span></strong></p><p>

<strong><em>Destiny: 3 (lukess11, Memory of Talon, djthefunkchris)</em></strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Lynch</span></strong></p><p>

Tha Black Phenom: 4 (Destiny, Too Sweet Spartan, Derek B, Memory of Talon)</p><p>

FellaLibby: 1 (lukess11)</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Iiiiiiinteresting... 2 different vote trains on TBP? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah wtf do you make of that?</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah wtf do you make of that?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Never mind apparently.</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ahahahahahahahahaha!!! The old "you can't have more than one thing" rule... funnily enough, I think I want to let DJ tell you about that because I've been telling him what is up all along.<p> </p><p> That said..... </p><p> </p><p> FellaLibby's actions this game summed up.</p><p> </p><p> Day 1: I bring people food!</p><p> Night 1: Doesn't bring people food.</p><p> Day 2: i'm going to do what I can and bring people food!</p><p> Night 2: Doesn't bring people food.</p><p> Day 3: I'm sorry for not bringing people food.</p><p> Night 3: Knows he can't do anything.</p><p> Day 4: Sorry about never bringing people food! And for being one of the few roles unaccounted for in any way. And being blocked when a kill goes missing. And for claiming one of the most common roles scum have. But never actually doing anything with it.</p><p> </p><p> I mean, I can be wrong. But any player who is active keeps failing to do what they say... they are either lying or playing badly. I know what happens to liars.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> At this point you are just being difficult for no reason because if you are town and if you obviously believe that libby is scum then town doesn't have two role blockers.</p>

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>At this point you are just being difficult for no reason because if you are town and if you obviously believe that libby is scum then town doesn't have two role blockers.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> OF the people I believe to be scum, he's the one I'm least confident on. But it's either him or lukess11 as the Realty aligned killer since showtime (town) was the one who killed Emark and the mafia killer killed showtime. I know where showtime got his kill too. It all clicked into place.</p><p> </p><p> And yes, I can be annoying when it comes to a stage where there are some people who can't possibly argue their way out of a case because the evidence is all there. And since you are one of them, it's very hard to listen to anything you say because at this point the biggest thing you can try to do is misdirect people. Listening to people who are doing that doesn't really help the town in any way, unless you have any information you think you can give that will help get people who aren't on your team. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I'm sorry if I am annoying. I find it hard not to be in this spot. Mostly because it's super rare for me to be in this spot, I'm usually dead by time I put things together and they never do so on DAY 4! <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>OF the people I believe to be scum, he's the one I'm least confident on. But it's either him or lukess11 as the Realty aligned killer since showtime (town) was the one who killed Emark and the mafia killer killed showtime. I know where showtime got his kill too. It all clicked into place.<p> </p><p> And yes, I can be annoying when it comes to a stage where there are some people who can't possibly argue their way out of a case because the evidence is all there. And since you are one of them, it's very hard to listen to anything you say because at this point the biggest thing you can try to do is misdirect people. Listening to people who are doing that doesn't really help the town in any way, unless you have any information you think you can give that will help get people who aren't on your team. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I'm sorry if I am annoying. I find it hard not to be in this spot. Mostly because it's super rare for me to be in this spot, I'm usually dead by time I put things together and they never do so on DAY 4! <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> What case to argue against? You think I'm aligned with a bus driver or am a bus driver? I literally was the one who brought up the idea that I was bus driven. WAY before you even brought up that idea in thread today. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> N2, if rabbitman did target me, the writeup shows for what ever reason the mailman decided "Guess they don’t need this anymore…" and "He turns and walks back the way he came."</p><p> </p><p> I had sort of thought that something was delivered to someone who died, and that's the reason the mailman turned around. So this makes me wonder if there's a bus driver, or a redirector at play.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> You also have me pegged as "copying your scum move in our first game together about being 'outraged' by a lack of doctor protection" When that was done by TSS.</p>

[FellaLibby]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>OF the people I believe to be scum, he's the one I'm least confident on. But it's either him or lukess11 as the Realty aligned killer since showtime (town) was the one who killed Emark and the mafia killer killed showtime. I know where showtime got his kill too. It all clicked into place.<p> </p><p> And yes, I can be annoying when it comes to a stage where there are some people who can't possibly argue their way out of a case because the evidence is all there. And since you are one of them, it's very hard to listen to anything you say because at this point the biggest thing you can try to do is misdirect people. Listening to people who are doing that doesn't really help the town in any way, unless you have any information you think you can give that will help get people who aren't on your team. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I'm sorry if I am annoying. I find it hard not to be in this spot. Mostly because it's super rare for me to be in this spot, I'm usually dead by time I put things together and they never do so on DAY 4! <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm glad I have your least confidence. Excuse me as I burst your bubble. As I just got a PM from IER telling me I was wrong about how I perceived my role. I'll get to that in a second. But first.</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#0000FF;">You are Linus Cooke, Effingham Heights Aligned Food Truck Driver.</span></strong> Yes indeed my last name is Cooke. I am a food deliverer. I use this to protect <em>apparently.</em> I believed that this, whole thing was to stop others from doing things. But turns out, I save people. Somehow. Don't ask me how I just bring food.</p><p> </p><p> As for your lack of confidence Derek thats pretty depressing coming from you. I won't be giving you any food.</p>

[Crychon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Before not being around as much gets thrown at me again, I want to make it clear that I've been working the last 5 or 6 days straight and my laptop was out of commission at the start of this game so a lot of Day 3 was spent taking proper notes so that I could actually pull my hunches and suspicions together. DJ can confirm that, we've been masoned together since Night 1 where someone put us together, which is in the write up here.....<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> We've spent a lot of time talking and bouncing ideas off of each other in our group, but we haven't been seeing eye to eye on a lot of things. We trust very different people, we have different vibes on people we think are scummy and in general don't seem to be clicking at all. Some of this seems to be that both of us are being a little coy about our roles... so in the interests of providing some clarity for the list I'm about to post this is why I don't have DJ at the top of my list.</p><p> </p><p> ME: Derek B</p><p> STRONG TOWN: </p><p> TOWN: Crychon, Rabbitman, Too Sweet Spartan, </p><p> NEUTRAL: djthefunkchris, FellaLibby, Memory Of Talon, michgcs/Eliphas, </p><p> SCUM: Destiny, Leion, lukess11, Tha Black Phenom, </p><p> STRONG SCUM: </p><p> </p><p> I also have a bunch of notes on this. The first is that with two scum groups out there abd presumably each having 4 people on them to start with.... there should now be 2 groups of 3 scum, and 5 townies left. Which is an awful position to be in for this game and the catalyst for all of this because I feel like I have to do something or this game is going to come down to scum fighting scum as the last couple of townies fight for potential scraps. As one of the last town, I'm not doing that. I'm not going to live much longer anyway, that much I know.</p><p> </p><p> I see a few people who I think are grouped in some way.</p><p> </p><p> GROUP 1: Destiny, lukess11, Leion?,</p><p> </p><p> Their interactions feel odd to me, and they have been too linked when it comes to nominations and the like. The fact that they've all been setting me off with red flags combined with that, makes me think they are together. Destiny has given NOTHING so far, lukess11 ability seems to be less than ability that only does anbything when it suits him and Leion seems to be almost non existent in this game, only popping up to prop up MoT and use my own technique of fake outrage to try to flush out a protector after DeadCeleb died. </p><p> </p><p> I put Leion in this group but there is a chance he's in the second.</p><p> </p><p> GROUP 2: Tha Black Phenom, Memory Of Talon, Leion?</p><p> </p><p> The links here are less strong BUT I've been getting bad vibes from MoT for a long time, and part of that is because he seems to be buddying up to DJ and they share a lot of similar thoughts. When someone I think is scummy buddies up to someone else, that set off a lot o warning bells. Doing so publicly makes me think they aren't aligned.... and it's possible I'm getting the two of them back to front and it's DJ buddying up to MoT... but either way, I think one of them are scum. Not that we can do anything about those two today as both were on the previous council and are currently unlynchable.</p><p> </p><p> With that in mind.....</p><p> </p><p> <strong>VOTE: Leion</strong></p><p> </p><p> --------------------------</p><p> </p><p> There are some other questions and clarifications that could help clarify some things and perhaps move some names around.</p><p> </p><p> @Rabbitman: Can you clarify EXACTLY what your ability did? Your phrasing was vague... was everyone (including you) protected at the party? Were the roleblocked? What would have happened if anyone else tried to get into the party? Were people untargetable? Please ask IER for clarification as it may make me feel better about FellaLibby, who I've had a town lean for for a while, but that others are saying is guaranteed for no obvious reason that I can see.</p><p> </p><p> @everyone: We need your collective scum reads. Who do you trust? Who do you not? Why?</p><p> </p><p> @everyone: For the love of god, don't drop nominations yet! We need to be extra careful with who we put in there particulary now that we have so few town left. We're more likely than not to have a council led by scum.... and if things carry on as they have we're going to have 8 players left for the next day phase so wont even be able to get a council in. The recklessness of voting in someone so quickly is another reason that I'm so against Destiny and lukess11. Especially with lukess saying on Day 3 that if he had a kill he'd kill Destiny... it reeks of scum trying to distance themselves at first, then saying to just go for it.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> As much as it pains me, with how many scum I believe there are in this game, there has to be scum in the town side of your list. </p><p> </p><p> I know I've not put all my cards on the table yet, but somehow I'm still alive and I'm going to play out what's left of my hand through this phase as I'm going to be around for a good chunk of it before having to work again.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Seeing as how you mentioned it and outed yourself, I may as well confirm that I was the third person in that writeup.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Crychon, you're still alive right? Since when did you decide the best and easiest route to survival was refusing to enter the thread? You're lucky you have other people to talk to outside of here.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ?</p><p> </p><p> I posted before bed last night, and I've been at work today. I didn't have time to post at work. Also, I don't have anyone to talk to.</p>