[RELEASE] CV97 / Cornellverse 1997 (Updated: 20th Aug 2021)

[Blackman]

Looking forward to playing this weekend.

 

I can't exactly spot any changes on first sight. First sim run and HGC still loses the TV deal. Resign with CANN after a year and lose the deal within months. Hollyweird '99 got a .17 buy rate as there was no USA provider and they didn't seem to reach out for one.

 

NOTBPW at 4/'99 is running its weekly show on just Alberta on air (as a small show). PPV is fine, luckily. I don't know what happens there, but they decided to run Biff vs Candle and RK Hayes vs Flex as main events, destroying their slot and ending their Championship Wrestling run with a shameful 41 rating.

 

I'm pretty sure I installed correctly as all my tweaks are gone.

[TheChef]

I know the mod isn't intended to be a 'historial' mod, but if I want to play as close to canon as possible, how do I go about keeping certain guys at certain companies? Does loyalty work for US and Canadian promotions? For example I want the Stones and DeColts to stay at NOTB at CGC but in tests, bigger companies always hire them. If I set them as loyal to their companies, will they reject exclusive offers from bigger companies?

 

Also, I'd like to set some narratives for the big events in CVerse 'history'. For example, DAVE closing, HGC becoming TCW, etc. Does this all have to be done before a save starts? Or can I, with the in-game editor, set up a narrative in 2004 for HGC to become TCW in a month's time?

 

Loving the mod so far, but I'd like to be able to control the variation a little more. Thanks in advance for any help.

[thecoolestjedi12]

I know the mod isn't intended to be a 'historial' mod, but if I want to play as close to canon as possible, how do I go about keeping certain guys at certain companies? Does loyalty work for US and Canadian promotions? For example I want the Stones and DeColts to stay at NOTB at CGC but in tests, bigger companies always hire them. If I set them as loyal to their companies, will they reject exclusive offers from bigger companies?

 

Also, I'd like to set some narratives for the big events in CVerse 'history'. For example, DAVE closing, HGC becoming TCW, etc. Does this all have to be done before a save starts? Or can I, with the in-game editor, set up a narrative in 2004 for HGC to become TCW in a month's time?

 

Loving the mod so far, but I'd like to be able to control the variation a little more. Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 

You can set loyalty for non-japanese companies and people should not leave on exclusive deals from places like DAVE etc and for name changes that you don’t wanna do manually, you should set that up in the narratives section of the database before you begin a game

[Blackman]

you should set that up in the narratives section of the database before you begin a game

 

I think that's incorrect. You can easily import narratives in WMMA5. I'd think the same thing is valid in TEW20. They just trigger on the given date. It's not "inscribed" in the savegame.

[Stennick]

I know the mod isn't intended to be a 'historial' mod, but if I want to play as close to canon as possible, how do I go about keeping certain guys at certain companies? Does loyalty work for US and Canadian promotions? For example I want the Stones and DeColts to stay at NOTB at CGC but in tests, bigger companies always hire them. If I set them as loyal to their companies, will they reject exclusive offers from bigger companies?

 

Also, I'd like to set some narratives for the big events in CVerse 'history'. For example, DAVE closing, HGC becoming TCW, etc. Does this all have to be done before a save starts? Or can I, with the in-game editor, set up a narrative in 2004 for HGC to become TCW in a month's time?

 

Loving the mod so far, but I'd like to be able to control the variation a little more. Thanks in advance for any help.

 

You can just as easily edit contract length depending on how close to Canon you wanna get.

[Teh_Showtime]

I ran a watcher until 2007 and noticed Rip Chord got busted in a scandal in 02, but that would make him unemployed and able to open up MAW as scheduled in late 2005. Unfortunately he opened up CWL in May and didn't make it that far.

 

Almost Rip, almost.

[BestForTheBusiness]

Can't wait to start a save with this mod! I've been waiting for this since TEW20 was released.

 

I'm looking to play PGHW, I'm in the mood for it so I re-rendered the entire PGHW starting roster in a "portrait" style. Feel free to use this on your own games.

 

 

 

 

Amane Shunsen | Amiri Ngala | Danger Kumasaka | Dino Maldini | Dragon Agakawa | Dread | Eisaku Hoshino | Eisaku Kunomasu

 

 

 

Fukusabaru Inao | Gihei Kanesaka | Go Matsunaga | Harumi Okazawaya | Hayate Hasegawa | Hirokumi Saito | Hito Ichihara | Java

 

 

Kazuo Mitsushi | Keiji Takada | Kimitada Yanagita | Koichi Kajiwara | Koji Kojima | Koki Ishibashi | Koryusai Kitoaji | Lee Wright

 

 

 

Mamoru Nagahama | Mito Miwa| Mito Miwa Alt | Ninsei Tanuma | Nobuatsu Tatsuko | Nobuyoshi Saitou | Raymond Diaz | Rico Santana

 

 

Sadaharu Jimbo | Shihei Nagano| Shuji Inuka | Sosa Morri | Sotatsu Sarumara | Yodo Nakane | Yoshimi Musashibo (Young) | Yoshimi Musashibo (older) | Yoson Nakata | Yugoro Adachi

 

[smw88]

Can't wait to start a save with this mod! I've been waiting for this since TEW20 was released.

 

I'm looking to play PGHW, I'm in the mood for it so I re-rendered the entire PGHW starting roster in a "portrait" style. Feel free to use this on your own games.

 

 

Some really nice renders there

[Blackman]

I'm looking to play PGHW, I'm in the mood for it so I re-rendered the entire PGHW starting roster in a "portrait" style.

 

Holy crap. What an amazing piece of work.

 

Especially like Mito Miwa, Raymond Diaz & Lee Wright.

 

My only gripe, if you permit me, is Hito. He looks American.

 

Would be killer if you were to do a post-US ager render on Eisaku Kunomasu, with him being bald and darker.

 

But please just play and enjoy the mod first!

[BestForTheBusiness]

Some really nice renders there

 

 

Holy crap. What an amazing piece of work.

 

Especially like Mito Miwa, Raymond Diaz & Lee Wright.

 

My only gripe, if you permit me, is Hito. He looks American.

 

Would be killer if you were to do a post-US ager render on Eisaku Kunomasu, with him being bald and darker.

 

Thanks guys.

 

 

I don't know if it's more Japanese looking, but here's a tweaked Hito, and an older Eisaku, with black lips based on his OG render. Also a logo for the gaijin stable I created, the definitely not BC rip-off: CROSSFIRE.

[Scottie]

Thanks guys.

 

 

I don't know if it's more Japanese looking, but here's a tweaked Hito, and an older Eisaku, with black lips based on his OG render. Also a logo for the gaijin stable I created, the definitely not BC rip-off: CROSSFIRE.

 

These and the other renders are beautiful. Holy heck. Kojima in particular looks incredible.

 

Would it be possible to upload the background? I would like to play as PGHW, and it would be great to use this background with any new signings.

[Jaysin]

BestforBusiness is there any chance you could put them on the cverse background? No hurry as I won't be able to even play the game for a few weeks, but I really like the renders

[BestForTheBusiness]

Would it be possible to upload the background? I would like to play as PGHW, and it would be great to use this background with any new signings.

 

Here it is:

 

BestforBusiness is there any chance you could put them on the cverse background? No hurry as I won't be able to even play the game for a few weeks, but I really like the renders.

 

Hey man, I don't think I would be able to do that, I rendered it in DAZ with the background included with the correct lighting in mind. But if anyone wants to cut and paste it in the Cverse background, feel free to do it.

 

 

 

@Derek B

 

Would it be possible for you to take a look on PGHW exclusive written contracts? I don't know if it's just in my game, but the exclusive written contracts drain hundreds of thousands from the finances, especially guys like Koryusai, Hito, and Dread. I ran a watcher on PGHW for 2 years and they only gained profit when the exclusive written contracts expired and extended them with exclusive handshake deals.

[Blackman]

@Derek B

 

Would it be possible for you to take a look on PGHW exclusive written contracts? I don't know if it's just in my game, but the exclusive written contracts drain hundreds of thousands from the finances, especially guys like Koryusai, Hito, and Dread. I ran a watcher on PGHW for 2 years and they only gained profit when the exclusive written contracts expired and extended them with exclusive handshake deals.

 

I assume Derek did it to lock them into the company. I personally hate it when "vintage" workers get snagged up mere months after starting a game. I get that it's never going to behave like the official timeline, but nothing wrong with giving the AI (and player) some breathing room. I've tested several watcher games (and I assume Derek tested many more) and I've never seen PGHW go out of business. Finances have no doubt been tweaked to accomodate for this.

 

If you think this is bad, try HGC. They bleed millions every month, but eventually survive even if you screw up the booking (if that is even possible ). Thank god the Strongman makes up a part of his obscene salary on merch.

 

Let's wait what he says but I sure hope there's not going to be too many updates as I spend quite a while adding all the event logos and changing pics, and I'd rather not do it for every update. (not sure if I can just import those without screwing up a link). The mod is fine now.

 

I've noticed a few short errors but it's barely worth mentioning (and I don't recall from heart).

[Blackman]

Still not sure which promotion I'll commit to: NOTB or HGC? I played both for one month and they're both fun.

 

NOTB's roster additions make sense and I like them, but djesus... What was Jeremy thinking actually? Half of the roster are hardcore stuntmen performing for a crowd that doesn't care about both aspects. A quarter of the roster can't wrestle an 8-minute match without being exhausted, but you need 20-min to escape the penalties. It doesn't make sense, but canon is canon and I guess the challenge is to make the best of it as I generally try to never break existing contracts (I made an exception for Helen Earth, because there's limits... ). I'm trying to build something up but it's challenging without throwing everything around. If you use main event focus you can get the status quo going until your younger workers (like Holmes) can rise from the pack. [so not complaining here, just looking for hints I guess ]

 

The main thing I did for NOTB was put the wheels in motion to change the product to pseudo-sports instead of sports, which gives you an additional 10% 'skill'-based results. That should help the player as producing pop is quite hard in performance-based promotions imho, as the lack of segments mean you're basically leeching it through roster turnover.

 

Again: love the flavor. Apparently there was an incident with Calvin Dark.

 

Furthermore I have to eat my words on the "potential" tweaks. Normally most workers I mentioned will get there automatically. But for Dan Stone Jr. & Eisaku Kunomasu I'd still put it on the highest level. But I'm probably biased.

 

@BestfortheBusiness: Are you going to link to this post in the render thread? It'd be a shame if your work didn't get noticed by the rest of the forum. Most people will check this out but some never play historic Cverse.

[Jaysin]

I have an odd request, would someone be able to take a few screen shots for me? I'm getting a new laptop in a few weeks and am starting to plan a diary.

 

If possible, could someone take a screen shot of HGC's faces and heels? One screen shot for faces and one for heels?

 

Also, screen shots of tag teams and stables if possible.

 

Thanks to anyone that can help

[Blackman]

I assume you're interested in the information mostly? Heels are underlined.

 

NAME AGE POP WGT

Sam Strong 50 99 BHW

Rip Chord 47 91 MW

Dusty Streets 45 66 HW

Richie Pangrazzio Jr. 41 60 MW

Bryan Vessey 25 55 MW

Larry Vessey 38 59 LHW

Cobra 51 57 LHW

Viper 51 57 HW

Joey Flame 44 58 MW

Teddy Flame 48 58 MW

Charlie Homicide 42 46 HW

Romeo Heartthrob 42 43 LHW

Whistler 35 45 HW

BLZ Bubb 25 33 BHW

Demon Anger 37 34 BHW

Demon Spite 39 35 BHW

Golden Fox 41 32 LW

Liberty 26 25 LHW

The Danger Kid 36 30 LW

Jimmy Power 52 26 LHW

Cowboy Ricky Dale 26 17 HW

Danny Rushmore 26 11 HW

Dark EAGLE 31 26 LW

Grunt & Stink 23 15 HW

Java & Tribal Warrior 24 18 BHW

Paul Steadyfast 21 13 MW

Robert Oxford 36 22 MW

Joel Bryant 25 10 MW

Peter Valentine 33 5 HW

Ramon Paez 23 7 LW

Mr Lucha* 36 26 LW

Monty Walker 25 10 LW

Jason Jackson 39 27 LW

Electrico 21 0 LW

Jack Bruce 24 5 LW

[louis1016]

El Gringo Loco is set as black but should be white.

[FINisher]

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[Jaysin]

Thanks Blackman!

[Blackman]

Just wondering whether someone cheated and did a "icon vs icon" (aka "Once in a lifetime") match wit HGC's Sam vs Rip? I refrained from setting it up as historically I assume they've met countless times. Just wondering what the bonus is, because I can't see me succeeding in hosting one of those anytime soon.

[Jaysin]

Has anyone tried running HGC with wrestling nerd nirvana? If so, how do Rip and Strong do with it?

[Blackman]

Has anyone tried running HGC with wrestling nerd nirvana? If so, how do Rip and Strong do with it?

 

On paper, not only is the style almost strictly inferior to the current one, it'll definitely cut down on their performance. They are stuck on 60% pop instead of 75%. Big difference. It also doesn't make sense as '97 kind of predates that 'style' as it can't really establish itself without the internet medium.

 

Or does it stylistically belong to mainstream (for TV deals)? I somehow doubt that.

 

Anyhow, you'll definitely get to the number required to upgrade to medium, as it doesn't really seem to matter thàt much whether you get a 90 show or a 70 one.

[Jaysin]

Before my laptop kicked the bucket I just enjoyed booking with that product so it's just what I'm most familiar with. What's the current product?

[Blackman]

No-style style.

 

Anyone more familiar with the game than me that can explain this horrid show? I ran it 10 times and got the main event average around 88% but Sam even got a 91% match out of Homicide without any chem whatsoever. As you can see, no botches and the crowd was very hot. Pop is obviously where it starts. Sam might've lost a point on the way.

 

I know a normal match is better due to the road agent traits but it doesn't seem to make any difference ratings-wise. Locker room is very low at 44% but that alone shouldn't explain this lackluster rating. Selling is 78 for Rip, who logically did most of the selling.

 

 

Rescue Rangers is Cowboy & Monty, for those interested. I put them together after a L2 chem note.