Imarevenant

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think you and dj are focusing on different sections of his post. dj was referring to the last portion while you are referring to the first.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, re-read after my post and see the disconnect</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Up until I seen an actual Crew aligned Crewman, I thought we were all going to have different roles of a ship. Crew aligned Doctor, Crew aligned Helmsman, Crew Aligned Engineering Officer, Crew aligned Science Officer, Crew aligned Number 1, etc. I didn't think we were going to have vanilla townies, or at least not that many.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> .......</p><p> </p><p> And I never stated I thought OP1 was vanilla. I honestly don't know what his ability might have been, if any. I just treated his role as crew aligned because it said crew aligned.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah... I mean, I don't get why you think that would have changed my mind?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well destiny explained it. OP1's role title was definitely not a stock crew job. Just pointing out that despite that evidence you still go with your belief that crew roles will only have stock crew jobs, to the point that you'll float that OP1 was scum recruitable.</p><p> </p><p> You said it yourself, you're just off this game, I'm trying to figure out why.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It was an honest mistake I confused with Emark but he point stands</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Still picking on low hanging fruit.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>@rev<p> </p><p> You seem to have picked up your activity in the absence of Opulent and mainly started pushing about MLT.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's a flat out lie, no other way around it. My activity has been pretty damn stable all game, except when I was away which luckily enough coincided with a night phase.</p><p> </p><p> Aside from that, what are you even trying to imply here? What does Opulents presence or absence have to do with my posting habits? Or anybodies presence for that matter. Whatever link you are trying to make, it's poorly developed and explained.</p><p> </p><p> Please, explain what you mean here.</p><p> </p><p> As for the other statement, I've already stated my case about MLT. Do I think she's scum, yes I do. Sorry, if you two are connected but I'll believe her to be scum until she shows me otherwise, which has yet to happen.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Find it interesting how you would question others about their weak reasons for voting but ignore it for most the rest of the players.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm focused on calling out those I find scummy. That's the point of the game. Some stick out much more because they have more things ticking that scum checklist.</p><p> </p><p> All game, I've been asking people why? or to better explain things they've said. When they answer I formulate an opinion about whether they are trying to solve things or not. I've asked these questions of Two, Leion, MLT, TSS, DJ, you, etc etc; whomever I felt has needed a further look. MLT, You and Leion to a lesser extent are the 3 that immediately got defensive. I find that interesting.</p><p> </p><p> You're awfully protective of MLT btw. Have been from the very beginning of the game? You rand on the same team again?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So wary about people “disguising” how active they are with filler posts but also dislikes pushing players who don’t post a lot. If your reasoning was that we gain nothing from them in death, then your feelings should be similar no?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's because they are two different things. Sorry, you don't see that, but they are.</p><p> </p><p> And as they are two distinct situations I don't treat them the same.</p><p> </p><p> As I stated a number of times, the quiet scum strategy is a losing strategy. You and your team were a victim of it during the worst played town game anyone has ever witnessed. If any of your team had played well you would have won.</p><p> </p><p> Aside from that I find scum more likely to list LHF in their potential scum lists. It's the easy way out, none of us know much about them so everyone is suspicious of them at least a little and you have plausible deniability as the person was playing poorly or not at all anyway.</p><p> </p><p> That strategy won't work anyway as the town will get those type of players when they have nothing of substance clearing them. And I'm not talking about night results; I'm talking about their play in thread, clearing them. You can't do that playing quietly so my focus doesn't tend to be on them.</p><p> </p><p> But my focus sure as hell is on scum that try and blend in by posting filler. It's a legitimate scum tactic that is used often enough, and if I'm wrong but it causes a townie to put in some extra effort then hell, town wins that way too. I'm ok with being wrong.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Now. Aside from the low hanging fruit and OMGUSing me. Who do you actually have reads on?</p><p> </p><p> Most trusted player in this game right now? Why?</p><p> </p><p> Aside from me, who would you auto-lynch? Why?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Her point is to pad her post count so she can point to it later and say she's contributing some <strong>while </strong>giving us nothing. <p> </p><p> </p><p> I would really like to see if her or Show have actual reads too?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> EBWOP</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is there a point to this post? <p> What are your reads atp?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Her point is to pad her post count so she can point to it later and say she's contributing some giving us nothing. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I would really like to see if her or Show have actual reads too?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As of now Lukess, EP, Mich, and you are the top of my list. If I had to list the entire squad <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Interesting, just picking the low hanging fruit. Whether they're dead or not huh?</p><p> </p><p> Care to give any reasoning besides me asking questions of your claim?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> I mean, I’m sorry for not outing my role directly but that would make it a little too easy for your buddies</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Also, really, you claimed after 2 votes. So if you are town, let's not pretend like you were making things really difficult on scum.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I mean, I’m sorry for not outing my role directly but that would make it a little too easy for your buddies</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Since you are going to go there. </p><p> </p><p> Please?</p><p> </p><p> Who would my buddies be?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Up until I seen an actual Crew aligned Crewman, I thought we were all going to have different roles of a ship. Crew aligned Doctor, Crew aligned Helmsman, Crew Aligned Engineering Officer, Crew aligned Science Officer, Crew aligned Number 1, etc. I didn't think we were going to have vanilla townies, or at least not that many.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You thought that even after seeing this on Night 1</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Opulent has been apprehended. He was </strong><strong><span style="color:#0000FF;">Crew Aligned Waned Criminal</span></strong><strong>.</strong></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What was there to correct? I never claimed to be Vince McMahon of the ship, Hunter Hearst Helmsley if anything.<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> LMAO, that's exactly the type of thing Taker used to say. Once while having the role of Vince McMahon while letting everyone else believe he was claiming something else.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Anyway, I don't know, here are the reactions after your claim.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No questions for me DJ?<p> </p><p> I would advise us not to come aboard this wagon, since I literally drive the ship</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Please tell me you didn't just do what I think you did?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Try to stop the two town leaders from putting the <strong>town in an immense hole</strong></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You would seemingly back off later and claim to not even have an ability at the moment.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt="wwe111.png?w=300&h=231" data-src="https://hotpopjunk.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/wwe111.png?w=300&h=231" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt="giphy.gif" data-src="https://media.giphy.com/media/1msBs3MFsfVfmoLOU1/giphy.gif" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Well, ask me 30 mins ago I would have a different answer. But now the most pressing/curious thing to me is how I feel about Showtime's claim. <strong>It's too important a role</strong> in my mind to risk lynching just because I don't 100% believe it. An unnecessary risk with other questionable people still around.</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Either way I'm ok to leave Show alone for today. Seems there was a young man and 1 other follower not happy with his leadership anyway.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Showtime is a ballsy player. It could be possible he's trying to lure the REAL captain into outing himself. Now, where did I leave my tinfoil hat... <p> </p><p> </p><p> You'll pick them up with time.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Lot's of people speculating that you just outed a very important role like captain to be honest. Hell, some of us flat out called you that. </p><p> </p><p> You let that sit there as your claim until our actual captain made it perfectly clear who he was. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Am I the only one that finds that interesting. If so, tell me to shut up and I'll drop it.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Also..........</p><p> </p><p> Interestingly, only two people I've seen referred to you as the "driver" or anything but the captain. </p><p> </p><p> Did those two discuss the fake claim with you and therefore have info the town didn't, about what you were claiming? Is that how two people only thought driver/pilot while others thought you were claiming something more important or flat out said captain when referring to your claim?</p><p> </p><p> Or should I just go borrow Two's tinfoil hat now?</p>

I think we start here: Voted on Archer Both Day Phases: MLT, Lukess, TSS, The Two, IER, Showtime Voted on Archer Only on Day Two: Emark, Zergon, Rev, DJ Voted on Archer Only on Day Three: Michgcs, EP, BHK, Leion Never Voted for Archer: Opulent, The Archer (TOWN) , bak42, Bluestar, Destiny, Eliphas I don't for a second think Archers lynch or lynch attempt on Day 2 was a Pure Town endeavor so let's start with who voted him on Both days: MLT, Lukess, TSS, The Two, IER, Showtime I don't think Arch coming up town is indicative of Lukess alignment. I believe Arch went after Lukess to rile him up and see if anyone would jump. We know how I feel about MLT. TSS and DJ are in the same category for me and it's neither scum or town for me just yet on either of them, to be quite honest. The Two: I thought I caught a role hint from him, maybe he can let me know if I was headed the right direction. All I need is a /nod then I can think on it some more. IER: I could lean either way TBH Showtime: the claim was strong when we all thought he was claiming captain. Now, not so much. From mere posts alone I haven't gotten a strong town lean, so there's that. In fact, after his claim, some of us noted that it appeared that there was a group unhappy with the ships captain and we'd let this things play out. No correction from Show at that time. He pulled Undertaker666's old scum move of letting us believe what was implied without him outright claiming that thing. Interesting that it wasn't until BHK asks a question that Show made the correction. And then of course, BHK, The Captain, is killed the next night..... Interesting flow of events to say the least. As for me not voting last phase. Quite frankly I had to get things packed for the trip and just couldn't get back to my computer before leaving. Wasn't about to post while driving either. My vote would have been a symbolic one on Leion btw, quite honestly I don't think the day was ever not going to end in an Archer lynch so no need for me to make a switch to him to just get a voting history out there for us to actually look through. And to answer the late BHK's question. My vote switch to Archer was just that. Just an attempt to get voting history out there.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The used car salesman is the only one I would vote for right now.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He's on my list as well.</p><p> </p><p> I have about 15 minutes before I'm off camping. I'll throw my vote down before that. </p><p> </p><p> This time I'll be on a mountain; please resist the urge to lynch me everyone.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Paranoia? <p> </p><p> I assure you once we get to the end game, and look into the scum chat, you won't see my name anywhere near it. Well, except if scum was saying my name. But you get my point.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Changed your name on Discord did you? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There are too many players being allowed to not play. I keep having to go back and look to see who is actually supposed to be in this game. Because I can only remember a few talking.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You are correct on this, we don't have the strict min post requirements that most boards do. We've done it here for a game or two but it was met with a ridiculous amount of resistance for a 5 post minimum (in a 48 hour phase).</p><p> </p><p> Personally, I view the quiet scum game is a bad tactic that will fail in the end anyway. Eventually they will be called out and will have absolutely nothing to clear themselves. Games where the town has had extremely poor play have been able to prevail against that tactic.</p><p> </p><p> Unfortunately we have people who play that way town or scum, so it's hit or miss in the early going what you are going to uncover when focusing on them. </p><p> </p><p> So for me, I like to watch and see who is adamant about pushing and lynching the quiet people. Scum like going for the easy mis-lynches early so it can be quite telling who harps on this phase after phase or who can only give quiet people in their suspicion lists. </p><p> </p><p> Anyway, that's my approach, your's might be different.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why do I get the feeling that as you post these kind words you are snickering in scum chat about foretelling of events to come?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Because he's scum, obviously</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wasn't fooled. I had him on day one. No one would listen to me. I was the seer but the rules didn't allow role or flavor claims. And I was being dismissed alot like I am here because I am new.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not everyone is ignoring you <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>It is now Day Phase Three. With 20 people remaining, its 11 to lynch. You have until 17:00 GMT (12:00 EST) Saturday April 13, to reach a majority decision. If no majority is reached the day will end in a no lynch.</strong><p> </p><p> <strong>The Archer - 4</strong> (The Two, moon_lit_tears, Too Sweet Spartan, djthefunkchris, )</p><p> </p><p> <strong>No Vote - 16</strong> ( bak42, BHK1978, Bluestar, Destiny, Eliphas, Emark, Eternal Phoenix, I effin rule, Imarevenant, Leion, lukess11, Michgcs, Opulent, Teh_Showtime, The Archer, Zergon, )</p><p> </p><p> -----------------------</p><p> </p><p> I'm going to be away for the next few days, so Rayelek will have a few days of flying solo. Try not to make him make hard decisions, it's his first game in charge of things. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think I'm fine with this direction.<p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: The Archer</span></strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For comparison there are 9 people in this game already at 44+ and we haven’t even lynched anyone yet<p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: The Archer</span></strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm willing to do an experiment that involves lynching me... And I mean going through with it. I've got enough stuff and interaction (more than everyone) that after I flip town, the rest of the town should be able to figure out the rest of the scum team.<p> </p><p> There was been quite a few people throwing shade my way, I would look into them, etc. You all know what to do. I win if the town can pull it through. At least this way everyone knows for sure I was town the whole time.</p><p> </p><p> Also, note to any new players: Normally people like myself, Opulent, and TSS now, would probably be number one on investigators lists. I'm pretty confident they are town as well, or else they would have been outed by now... unless everyone only checked on me. Either way, the interaction, not necessarily the abilities, is what is probably going to win this game as well.</p><p> </p><p> So if you think this is a good idea, let's do this!!</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: djthefunkchris</span></strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> So unofficial vote count:</p><p> </p><p> <strong>The Archer - 5</strong> (The Two, moon_lit_tears, Too Sweet Spartan, I Effin Rule, Teh Showtime)</p><p> </p><p> <strong>djthefunkchris - 1</strong> (djthefunkchris)</p><p> </p><p> <strong>No Vote - 14</strong> ( bak42, BHK1978, Bluestar, Destiny, Eliphas, Emark, Eternal Phoenix, Imarevenant, Leion, lukess11, Michgcs, Opulent, The Archer, Zergon, )</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Personally I'm leaving tonight to go camping until Sunday morning, so I only have tonight to place my vote. For now I have to actually get some work done at work here, so I'll check back in a few to see where were at.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eternal Phoenix" data-cite="Eternal Phoenix" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> With that said, I'm not one of old school GDS folks, so...maybe a little cliquey, fellas? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> /nod, we were accused of this back in the day as well. </p><p> </p><p> It happens and I get it. We are a smaller mafia community and tend to play against each other game after game after game.</p><p> </p><p> In the bigger communities you may play against a lot of similar people but it's not 6, 7, 8 games in a row against the exact same people.</p><p> </p><p> We get used to each other and it has got to be weird stepping into a game where you are the only one who doesn't know everybody playing.</p><p> </p><p> It's why new players should be sought after, to break this cycle; and why the fights with new players early this year were so disappointing for some of us (that's off topic though and should be discussed else where)</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Eli and EP. Based purely off the last hour. I still think <strong>mlt, lukess, and Leion include one scum</strong>.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I tend to agree with that. You have it in that order?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just would appreciate if I ask you a question, you are given the opportunity to answer it without having interjections from anyone else. Everyone has their own ways of solving. I would appreciate being given the chance to do mine.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> A reasonable expectation. I would just take note of who jumps in to answer for whom. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Hmmm, you can leave my name out of it buddy. But a good list.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Did I not teach you anything our first game? </p><p> </p><p> You don't have to react to every little suspicion people have that you are scum, it's a dead give away.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eternal Phoenix" data-cite="Eternal Phoenix" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I did have a bad moment on Day 2 where I though DJ and Opulent v2 were scum buddies working together. But that was a paranoid, crazy thought and EP doesn't listen to those.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nah, keep those suspicions in the back of your mind until you have solid undeniable proof and not just a read. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm willing to do an experiment that involves lynching me... And I mean going through with it. I've got enough stuff and interaction (more than everyone) that after I flip town, the rest of the town should be able to figure out the rest of the scum team.<p> </p><p> <strong>There was been quite a few people throwing shade my way, I would look into them, etc. You all know what to do. </strong>I win if the town can pull it through. At least this way everyone knows for sure I was town the whole time.</p><p> </p><p> Also, note to any new players: Normally people like myself, Opulent, and TSS now, would probably be number one on investigators lists. I'm pretty confident they are town as well, or else they would have been outed by now... unless everyone only checked on me. Either way, the interaction, not necessarily the abilities, is what is probably going to win this game as well.</p><p> </p><p> So if you think this is a good idea, let's do this!!</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: djthefunkchris</span></strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is not a good idea.</p><p> </p><p> Anyway, addressing the bold section. Follow the advise you gave to Eliphas and just come out with it. Name names damnit</p>

I've seen this floated out a lot today. Can someone quote these posts please? Not doubting it, looking for clarification because I didn't read the interactions this way. Also, for everyone, if archer is scum, who do you have on his team?

@TSS. Bak

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Because I’m responding? If I were to gnome posts would I look scummy? <p> </p><p> I’m active and here. I ask why I look scummy to people, and guess what? Few have answered. </p><p> </p><p> Are you for just lynching someone without them defending themselves? </p><p> Are you for calling someone scummy, yet lynching other people? </p><p> </p><p> See here is my problem. In DJs little questionnaire my name was put the most, yet no real questions have been put my way, nor have many votes hit me last phase and none this one. </p><p> </p><p> So look at that. I’m here. I’d answer anything thrown my way. THAT is why I’m responding, trying to get questions asked of me, but none. </p><p> </p><p> Why? </p><p> </p><p> If I’m on so many radars as scum, why the play like it’s been? </p><p> </p><p> This is what I meant in my earlier comment and why I pushed fir the quiet players. To spark conversation, and get more activity. Town will attack each other because they don’t want to push too early on quiet players. It’s why scum win most games. We are to busy killing off the talking ones for them. </p><p> </p><p> If you think I’m scummy tell me why, ASK ME QUESTIONS hell use your damn vote. Do something other than say I’m scummy and throw your vote elsewhere.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Here is 1 reason: the fact you pop up and get this defensive whenever someone calls you suspicious is a tell in itself.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not to be the one that cast doubts, but if scum has infiltrated the town core and are viewed as leaders, it can be used to as a way to herd the lynches and control the thread through their presence.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yep, that's pretty much the game in a nutshell</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is this true? I keep reading he does this as scum? I assume that he wasn't in the game you are speaking of? Or is he just this aggressive?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Considering that was my game, I remember it pretty well. He was an indy hider, called out most of the scum team, but they managed to use the fact he was indy and his aggressiveness against him and got the town to lynch him. </p><p> </p><p> ........</p><p> </p><p> Well he did make the mistake of claiming town after already claiming indy. They turned that on him as well to get the lynch.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Why would you just assume he wasn't in the game I was speaking of btw?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also of those who can't come up with a name or only pick low posters</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ugh phones. </p><p> </p><p> What I meant is i'm always suspicious of those that can't come up with more than one name or those that only pick low posters.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is this a way to form a consensus POE?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's a way to put everyone's thoughts down in a way we can go and analyze. </p><p> </p><p> That way we can see who might have been protecting their scum buddies from suspicion throughout the game.</p><p> </p><p> Also of those who can't come up with a name or only pick low posters</p>