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  1. The difference is that this OP seems to want Adam to pay people to make mods the OP might like. That's over the top ridiculously entitled. Adam released a finished game. If you want mods, choose from the pretty wide selection that is available, or make your own. Adam has zero obligation to facilitate modding.

     

    Certainly he doesn't have any obligation to facilitate modding, that would be a stupid argument. He's not obliged to release the game at all.

     

    But let's not pretend he put the editor in out of the goodness of his heart - there's clearly an incentive for him to facilitate modding. If there were no real-world mods for the game, it would sell less, as evidenced by the fact that one of the first questions anyone has about TEW is "can I use real people".

     

    Modders are a key part of the ecosystem that helps market and sell TEW. 9 out of 10 posts to the Fantasy Bookers subreddit (8000 subscribers) or the plentiful YouTube videos of the game (many with over 10k viewers) use real world mods.

     

    As I said before, legal issues permiting, it wouldn't be a bad idea to give any top-of-the-line modmakers some early editor access and sort of stipend to ensure mods are promptly released for any future editions of the series.

  2. Really? You think Adam should pay people to change his product to suit you? Wow. That's a....unique perspective.

     

    I think that the OP is a little entitled, but of all the things that he said to pick on, this is a bizarre choice.

     

    The UI got a shellacking on release. Suggesting Adam pay another designer would be also thinking 'Adam should pay people to change his product to suit you'. Is that really 'wow'-worthy?

     

    Literally any suggestion that involves someone with a skillset Adam doesn't have, or manpower for sale, would be the same.

     

    I imagine it'd be impossible for legal issues, but paying people with experience of doing something that they've proven to be popular at is literally the opposite of a 'wow, unique perspective' - it's a sensible one.

  3. Why would a company limit itself to only signing foreign workers for tours? Surely in the past foreign workers were brought in because they had name value, not simply because they were foreign? I'd happily have brought in The Road Warriors, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen etc. but there'd be no point bringing in someone like Barry Horrowitz or The Brooklyn Brawler (for example).

     

    You have no idea what your talking about in Japan in the 80's or contracts at all. The first written exclusive contract was done by Jim Crockett Promotions for the Road Warriors and Paul Ellering in 1988. The problem in this game is if you set All-Japan and New Japan to National which is what they were as far back as 1980. The game allows these two promotions to sign all the workers. Which means that nearly all workers with name value will be signed by Japanese promotions.

     

    Which is the reason I don't like the removal from the game. Yes, I know they are work arounds so some the biggest names don't get signed in the game, but that adds more work for the modder. Also all them workers you named signed touring contracts to work in Japan that how Japanese promotions worked in the 80's.

     

    If you want create a real world mod yourself and find out how long it takes.

     

    There was some wires crossed here on the main cause of contention, just an innocent miscommunication.

     

    'Only foreign workers offered touring contracts' can mean two very different things.

     

    Undertaker666 took alvarasus as suggesting that Japanese companies should exclusively sign foreign workers, on touring contracts. As in, only sign foreigners.

     

    I believe what alvarasus meant was that foreign workers should only be offered touring contracts, rather than exclusive contracts.

     

    Peace and love, y'all.

  4. It depends what you mean by 'NWA'. I've seen a lot of people use the term more recenrly to specifically refer to JCP/WCW once they monopolised the World title, in which case I'd say 'Classic Southern Rasslin'' might fit the bill.

     

    If you mean the wider alliance (or what was left of it by the 90s), that'd vary depending on the territory. CWF is not ECW is not WCCW etc.

     

    Golden Age and Silver Age, to me at least, feel much more pre-80s to me. Maybe 80s St Louis would fit in there though as the most 'traditional' territory.

  5. Sorry, not entirely on-topic, but these quotes drew me in so I had to take the leap.

     

    Same for Kerry Von Erich is he in a different place in 86 than on that motorcycle that cost him his foot and addicted him to painkillers.

     

    Kerry was far from clean before the accident. Years before this he was already missing shots and getting arrested at airports with suit pockets filled with pills from Mexico, not to mention getting doped up on the same quaalude-esque stuff that Kevin was into.

     

    The 'Kerry commited suicide because of painkillers' is just Fritz trying to change the narrative in that godawful family book.

     

    Does Mike Von Erich still suffer the injury in 87 in Israel that caused brain damage and is attributed as a key reason for his suicide?

     

    Whilst the toxic shock certainly didn't help Mike, the reason for his death starts with F and ends with Z. The relentless pressure of being forced into the business and announcing at a press conference where Mike can barely speak that 'he'll be back and he'll be a champion' is what killed Mike.

     

    As with Kevin and Kerry, Mike was also already a lover of booze, pills and other assorted nose-candies. The brain damage from toxic shock just broke his filter and brought out a more devil may care side of him, eg. bragging to WCCW cameramen between-takes about gangbanging rats with an underage Chris. But even that you could blame on the unhealthy attitude to sex you're going to have when Fritz is getting the boys hookers when they were pre-teens...

     

    Does the bigger promotion and busier schedule prevent Gino Hernandez from his demise?

     

    Although getting him out of Dallas would likely have gotten him away from any kingpins if you're of the 'Gino was murdered' camp, it's hard to see someone with an addictive personality and ability to talk himself to any social circle like Gino not being able to get his hands on rocket fuel anywhere he went. Not to mention the added pressure a busier schedule would give him, which is just another reason to self-medicate.

     

    Anyway, historical debate aside...

     

    Mattywood, I admire your dedication to detail in explaining what things changed. That's a key in any alternate history mod, and a strong confidence boost in terms of playing it. It's all too easy to change one big thing, but then everything else turns out the same, whereas you seem keenly aware of the butterfly effect. Good luck!

  6. Superstars was aired weekly. And IIRC SNME was too for the most part.

     

    Between 85 and 92, there were 31 SNMEs and 5 editions of 'Main Event', including that 33m viewers beast. An 80s WWF with weekly TV on NBC would've been titanic, but they could never have sustained that many big matches.

     

    You can think of late 80s WWF as CMLL, but with squash matches instead of trios, sprinkling in 1 vs 1s here and there as big deals.

  7. Here's a few possible UK user character suggestions who I've heard are into wrestling:

     

    Jack Whitehall

    (comedian, friends with Tony Khan, was decently famous in 2013, was the guy who introduced Bret Hart at Double Or Nothing)

     

    Rob Beckett

    (comedian, less famous than Whitehall, but has mentioned wrestling quite a lot in interviews etc.)

     

    Maverick Sabre

    (Rapper/Singer who was near the top of the charts in the early 2010s, had a few songs that mentioned watching late-90s WWF)

     

    Phil Wang

    (yet another comedian, wasn't nationally famous at all in 2013 but has mentioned wrestling in his act multiple times and even did a comedy lecture about wrestling recently)

     

    Jonathan Ross

    (talk show host, a household name in the UK from the 90s to today, did a guest appearance for Lucha Brittania and has mentioned loving wrestling in interviews, also a massive Japanophile so probably loves puro)

     

    Of the five, Ross and Whitehall by far are the best known today. In 2013, Ross would still be top, but Whitehall and Sabre would probably be tied.

  8. I love the unloved, so here's some lucha notes for AAA:

     

    Product

     

    I'd recommend adding 'strictly enforced' for the face/heel divide; exceptions certainly happen but 9 times out of 10 it's 3 tecnicos vs 3 rudos.

     

    I get your choice of 'Attitude Entertainment', it certainly fits the rougher edge AAA has over CMLL better than 'Lucha Entertainment' would. However, it does mean you miss out on the impact of luchas de apuestas, so maybe it's a sacrifice worth making.

     

    Schedule

     

    (Let's ignore Lucha Fighter for now.)

     

    So, before the world ended, in 2020 AAA haven't really run weekly TV in the way the game is set up. They've done 'big' (ie. broadcast) shows roughly every fortnight (Nacemos Para Luchar Gira 2020), lasting around 2 hours each, with what are basically house shows dotted in-between. These are live on Twitch, and uploaded on about a month's delay on YouTube.

     

    However, since fortnightly shows aren't available as an option in TEW 2020, you'll want to avoid having to make 24 annual events. So I suggest you put 'Nacemos Para Luchar Gira 2020' as a 1 hour TV show on Twitch/YouTube Mexico, but set to tape 2 episodes at a time.

     

    Roster Additions/Removals

     

    You can remove Juventud and Mr Aguila, neither have really wrestled with AAA since 2018 (Aguila's made 2 appearances since then, but they're just annual one-shot deals).

     

    There's a few missing big-name regulars: Rush (rudo), Blue Demon Jr (rudo), Mascarita Sagrada (tecnico), Lady Shani (tecnico), LA Park Jr (rudo, and to be clear, this is a different guy to El Hijo de L.A. Park), and La Parka Negra (rudo, also a different guy) to name a few. Oh, and Dr Wagner Jr's back now.

     

    There's also a lot of missing minis, like Drago Kid, Laredo Boy, Parkita Negra (yes, another Parka), but they're less regularly featured.

     

    Oh, and Hugo Savinovich does commentary. He says PELIGRO! and BRUTAL! a lot.

     

    Alignments

     

    Monster Clown and Murder Clown recently turned face.

    Pentagon Jr is a face.

    Super Fly is a heel.

    Taya worked as a face recently.

    L.A. PARK is a heel.

    Argenis is a heel.

     

    Attributes & Relationships

     

    I'd definitely remove the '100% Babyface' attribute from Tirantes, he's a typical lucha rudo ref.

     

    Remove 'Can't Play Comedy' and 'Poor Comedy Matches' from Mr Iguana, he's big-time comedy guy (though your mileage may vary on how funny he is).

     

    La Bestia Del Ring is Rush's dad.

     

    I think you've accidentally assigned a relationship to the wrong Tito Santana in the form of a strong friendship with Tully Blanchard.

     

    Stables

     

    Los Ingobernables (or Facción Ingobernable if you prefer) is Rush, L.A. Park, and La Bestia Del Ring. And Konnan apparently, but he's very much in the background.

     

    Los OGTs are a heel stable of Averno, Chessman and Super Fly. Their theme music is pretty cool.

     

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    That's all for now. Well done on the hard work, and I'm a big fan of your stats scaling structure. Modern-day mods are a thankless task; the present keeps on moving!

  9. Just wanted to give this a timely bump to say thank you.

     

    This is virtually the only mod I play with any regularity, and it still blows me away. The high supply of dedicated tag teams is an especially big plus, and to this day I still stumble across new workers I've not seen before.

     

    As you can imagine, living in China means I haven't seen much daylight lately (although I'm a bit of a hermit anyway), but FTD still has me whiling away the hours.

     

    Thanks guys, and I hope more people can see and enjoy this hidden gem.

  10. <p>It's interesting to see this referred to as a recent thing because it's a very long-standing occurance. I especially associate it with the 90s, although of course it's been a thing as long as ref bumps have been a thing.</p><p> </p><p>

    For example, look at virtually every loss Hogan has taken and there's a visual pin in there somewhere. Supposedly he'd insist on it. Because of this, i think it'd come under 'keep strong' or 'protect'.</p>

  11. So often in this forum people want to share their big feuds or events, usually focusing on their PPV card or season finale. They show the big special shows, and the build-up is rarely mentioned in detail.

     

    The idea behind this thread is the exact opposite:

    What happened on a recent 'standard' TV show/event of yours?

     

    I, honestly, suck at booking TV. Whether i'm building to 4 PPVs a year or 12, it never quite 'feels right' compared to the real thing. I go overboard with squash matches (trying to copy late 80s/early 90s WCW), or I feel like I'm wasting PPV-potential matches until I have no fresh matches left (a la Nitro), or I go overboard with tag combinations of my PPV card (a la New Japan), or the PPV card is just a repeat of matches from TV (modern-day WWE).

  12. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Suplewich" data-cite="Suplewich" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46428" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ended up going with Royal Ring. Now, I just need to find a governing body name. Something like "International Wrestling Grand Prix", really.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Since you're a Japanese company with a royal name, how about 'Emperor Wrestling Council' (EWC) or 'Throne Wrestling Committee' (TWC)?</p>
  13. <p>For stables without overlays (and often for those with), I tend to just use something very simple but very recognisable - a small square in the top right corner of their render. It gives me quite a few colours to play with for any Japan games I do.</p><p> </p><p>

    Plus, for someone with terrible design skills like me, it's as easy as pasting a layer over any other image and Bob's your uncle.</p>

  14. So, it's been a while since i've posted here. Over 2 years to be exact. Sorry about dropping out on the testing team way back when fellas! It's been a bit of a whirlwind y'see. Now i'm in the land of Tian Long and Gao Xi :p

     

    I've still found a bit of time to get my dose of ThunderVerse-ing in though, especially recently. I finally sat down for a proper CLLM game rather than my usual ILL fare, and devised a calendar full of tournaments and just the one top title, in an attempt to both imitate and fix our reality's lucha. It worked out quite nicely, although the neverending trios matches on TV do take their toll booking-wise.

     

    I have to say, Vice would definitely cure my squash-match itch. It's the only style of American TV booking i'm especially comfortable with, and whilst it certainly works for CWT, i just feel like i can't get away with it in the modern lands of AWF and PWI. The thought of a whole new scene - not to mention getting a shot at some retro lucha and, of course, a puro scene free of LETHAL and instead loaded with a whole new host of gaijins and not-so-wacky regional promotions (sorry FKPW!) - fills me with a thunderous sense of joy. See what i did there?

     

    The Christmas alt pack was fantastic by the way - bewildered by Chaperone's new/old look, curious to see what the universal spin on Oz is, and I have to say I can't see Cloud James any other way now. Top notch stuff.

     

    Keep up the good work lads :)

  15. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to listen to a handsome guy complain about how disfigured he is/has been when he's wearing a clear mask that shows he is still as handsome as he ever was.

     

    I think you're missing the point a bit ;) Everybody, him included, knows he's not disfigured. He's keeping up the schtick that he is purely to keep the mask, which he frequently uses as a weapon - obviously, he wouldn't take it off if he really was (as in, in-kayfabe) disfigured, as it wouldn't be worth the risk.

     

    Alternatively though, they could have taken it the way they (should have) went with Kane after his unmasking - his scars have long-since healed, but mentally he's convinced they're still there.

  16. I think Henry is the first good heel champion other than Orton in a while. He gets heat from everybody: Internet smarks hate him because they think he sucks, and casual fans hate him for what he does each week.

     

    That's the thing though, not all smarks hate him - i've heard and seen a lot of comments and stuff from people praising his work, saying how he's a hundred times better than he's ever been. We're going back to the whole 'monolithic hive-mind IWC' thing here :p

  17. Why are the divas so damn noisy? Seriously, every other move has to be accompanied "ugh! ugh! oooooooagh!".

     

    Also, Mark Henry is so ridiculously good right now, and I never thought i'd say that. He's got all the little touches down just right - yelling at the fans and all that. One guy had a world title replica and Henry just screams "yours is fake, this is real! YOURS IS FAKE AND THIS IS REAL!" how can you not love that?

     

    Edit: Religious commentary by JR! "Hell in a Cell is like church: Many attend, few understand!"

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