Astil

Occum's Razor. Is it more likely Derek set up a fake claim which he gave early in pressure and got very unlucky or that there are 2 of the exact same mechanical role in a 20 townie pool (estimate) with different degrees of specificity and different role titles? This whole counterpush of 'Would I be that dumb' reeks of caught scum.

The same role. The same exact role. Two different write up styles. C'mon.

My role PM was unclear on my ability to roleblock to the point where I had to get two clarifications on it. I find it highly unlikely my role PM would be vague and Outlaw would clarify after and then yours would be 100% clear if your roles are mechanically the same.

Now I know you are lying.

Boots?

TBH no, I can go look.

<p>Eternal Phoenix, BKH, Ray, Crychon, Paws, eayragt:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Thoughts?</p>

Derek can non-kill targets get through with your role?

<p>Arrows, or anyone really, honest question:</p><p> </p><p> When has there been the protector/roleblocker or hider/roleblocker role in GDS before?</p><p> </p><p> Am I forgetting an obvious one?</p>

<p>Like you are the one who brought up jailer</p><p> You stated you got no role PM</p><p> Jailer is a pretty rare role here</p><p> </p><p> Way I see it you fake claim jailer, get caught, and are now trying to retroactivly say that you claiming a rare role as a fake claim would be dumb because ...?</p><p> </p><p> What am I missing?</p>

Why are we assuming you claiming is stupid?

If any of the 5 people who voted Anti because Anti was 'jailed' dont vote Derek for the same reason I would love to know why.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Astil, do you think the section about appointments in the write up might involve you also, being a doctor and all? Does any of that fit with your reading?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's a thought I've had, but that would read as myself being targeted for an info seeking role. Didn't want to focus too much on that as those should lay low until catching scum.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="theoutlaw321" data-cite="theoutlaw321" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> He had ran over to the diner to grab a bite to eat and seen the man he wanted, walk by. He hurriedly paid and went to catch up with him. </p><p> </p><p> As he walked down the sidewalk he heard someone say<span style="color:#0000FF;"> "I've been waiting on you."</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#2E8B57;">"Really for what? I'm kinda in a hurry."</span></p><p> </p><p> '<span style="color:#0000FF;">Never to busy to take care of yourself my good man</span>." And with that he invited him inside.</p><p> </p><p> "<span style="color:#2E8B57;">Guess this will have to wait then</span>."</p><p> _______________________________________________________________</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Slept on it. Here:</p><p> </p><p> So here is me in the night write up. The piece about 'never too busy to take care of yourself good man' is my character. That is a doctor speaking. It's pretty clear.</p><p> </p><p> I have full claimed.</p><p> I have claimed a spot in the write up. This has not been counter claimed.</p><p> </p><p> Derek claimed both my role and spot, but as a jail keeper. </p><p> </p><p> Why would there be two jailkeepers? Why would a jailkeeper be concerned for a person taking cate of themself? </p><p> </p><p> The idea that Derek couldn't be scum because he used the word keep is laughable. His post also used the word eye was he also hinting toward being a private eye? It's too flimsy a hint and more likely one set up after the fact. Derek is the type where if he set up breadcrumbs he'll direct you to them rather than full claiming.</p><p> </p><p> Now he wont even test his role out to confirm he is what he says he is?</p><p> </p><p> I just don't buy it.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Change Vote: Derek B</strong></p>

So you are unwilling to target me tonight, Derek?

Also if Derek turns red Arrows deserves a long, strong look as well. If not, then ignore this.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Only so many roles. Some are bound to be doubles. This one's oddly specific, but I don't get why we're making this argument as a staple for why we should lynch a strong player.<p> </p><p> Right up there with using text color in write ups to determine stuff.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We'll know tonight if there is a jailer in the write up. If not, then he's lying. Sound good? Until then</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Change Vote: Moon_lit_tears</strong></p>

<p>If not Derek then who?</p><p> </p><p> We need to do something today and phase ends in less than 24. We need a direction or two as back up.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't know Outlaw, but the write-up isn't exactly perfect for grammar. That's a reach.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fair. Retracted.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Antithesis" data-cite="Antithesis" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Astil VG1 was your game, was it Derek that had his team basically block/jail himself for a day to win?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Man, I cant rmember VG2 mineaswell 1. Sorry.</p><p> </p><p> Hope all goes well Anti.</p>

If Derek's telling the truth I kinda want me and him to target each other to see what Outlaw would do.

I am too, scum or town it is always more fun to talk it out. No shame on Derek either, we all have lives.

... Would Outlaw put a space between jail and keeper. He seems a stickler for syntax...

Convince me of an option more likely to produce more information or a scum result today then?

Do you believe a kill was blocked?

<p>I'm overvaluing a 2 in 1 role the protects and roleblocks? </p><p> </p><p> Has there ever been a game with 2?</p>