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I think I've seen one or two across the five decades or so I've simulated in WMMA5. Even though I love them, they don't work in the game at all and bizarrely lead to more knockdowns being survived so I just outlaw them in every company.

Dawn of MMA - it starts in 1993 so my game has been going on for about 14 years now. Ninja did smash Filho, first by decision and then he knocked him out with an intercepting knee in the first round of the rematch. It was pretty sweet.

<p><img alt="h4ggeJv.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/h4ggeJv.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> My favourite thing about playing real world mods is fantasy booking guys like Ninja into real competitors at their weight class instead of fodder for heavyweights. This was also my first UFC card in Brazil and it was a smashing success. Silva just lost the title by wrestling to Filho, who wrestled Marquardt in the main event to defend it. I'm really hoping Ninja beats him up.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="vladjarca" data-cite="vladjarca" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="50392" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's a text based game, isn't that to be expected?<p> </p><p> And damn dude, the Tony - Gaethje fight was heartbreaking enough, no need to break my heart in the game too <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Of course - but the closer the game can actually represent the mechanics of MMA, the more believable the simulation and the richer the experience.</p><p> </p><p> That fight broke my heart too, but those are the kinds of fights that make MMA such a special combat sport too.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ngz999" data-cite="ngz999" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="50392" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>All of those things are already in the game. Conditioning as in stamina is available as a stat, plus resilience to represent how long it takes to recover after a fight. Momentum is the fire icons on the fighter's profile. Inconsistent fighters like Ferguson are represented by the consistency stat. Stances for orthodox/southpaw exist already and others which could improve elusiveness or kicking accuracy (such as Stephen Thompson or Michelle Waterson's karate stances) can be simulated via the footwork/feint/kicking stats and the martial art textbox will allow you to type any stance white tiger kempo to crane, and it's right there on the screen when they fight.<p> </p><p> WMMA5 will still be entertaining for me for many years. There are some things I'd add or change (let me completely remove the recovery period after a fight and remove the notice period before a fight, revert nerfs to in-game editor, let me edit the fight commentary text, give me UFC 1 rules) but I can live with the shortcomings. TEW is the franchise people should be worried about. Any sequel is likely to be based on the TEW2020 engine which has been an unmitigated disaster in terms of UI, products, popularity gain, harsh penalties, segment/match ratings, AI booking, in-game editor, gimmicks etc. It is simply not fit for purpose and probably never will be, so building upon TEW2016 would be smart. That said, there are a couple things the old engine couldn't do, such as playing as a developmental territory. I think most of the fans would be happy with tweaks and updates to TEW2016 released as a new version but I don't think management would swallow their pride and allow it. So if they won't build on TEW2016 and players don't want TEW2020, it could be the end of the series.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don’t think you understood my post, you should read it again.</p>

I think there's plenty you could do in a potential WMMA6 but it'd require a whole lot of work and I don't blame Adam for not wanting to if the game doesn't sell enough. One of the weaknesses in the game, once you've played long enough, is that the engine is still quite limited in the kind of fights it can produce. In an ideal world, WMMA6 would account for stances, stylistic habits, have a much more thorough representation of conditioning, momentum, accumulated damage, and the mental side of fighting. You can't really have a fight like Gaethje vs. Ferguson happen in the engine because it doesn't really differentiate between different styles of striking or account for someone like Tony excelling when he feels himself, and not doing well when he can't get going. A lot of the time your imagination has to fill in the blanks. Or what about recent developments in MMA, like the Khabib-style folding of the near wrist along the fence (in particular to counter wall walking, which is another thing WMMA doesn't represent well), calf kicks to counter the emergence of jabs in MMA, front snap kicks and teeps, etc. I don't know if it's even possible. You'd have to make the game so much more complicated. And to put these complaints into perspective, I've played hundreds of hours of every WMMA game since number 2. I just think there definitely is more you can do if Adam wanted to. Don't blame him for not wanting to. Love the games. One immediate and massive improvement would be moving from a daily to a weekly schedule to reduce the clicks. You'd lose nothing but a lot of busywork. I'd probably pay for the game again for that feature alone.

Does anyone know which setting in the fight engine editor controls the effectiveness of soccer kicks/stomps? They almost never finish fights in my game and I'd like them to, a lot more.

I love these early body shot finishes. They always make me smile and keep an extra eye on the guy's booking from that point on.

My suggestion is fairly simple but I don't know if the current WMMA engine would support it - it would be really nice if there could be a little button in fight histories with player notes for the fight. Notes could be added before or after, such as 'Replaced x on short notice, great performance in defeat' or 'Challenging belt because of previous win over current champion, despite not being ranked highly enough'. Perhaps even more flavourful notes for long games (I'm in 2023 in mine) like 'Great performance in defeat from X, hurt opponent badly but got tired and submitted' or 'Chin exposed? Or is X a very hard hitter?' (I don't look at the skills page in my games at all). I think it would really help the only real weakness in the game's history, which is that it's hard to get a sense of what fights were like without a player's direct input. I'm sure you're very busy with TEW, but thanks for a great game Adam. I'm glad there's no way to see how many hours I've played of WMMA5 since release. It would be a lot. Keep safe.

This is from WMMA4 but Gene Oakley, your bog standard brawling can who starts the game at 2-1 or something like that, and had been relatively successful with a few losses in my game, got a title shot off an injury. He defeated Ateb of Indonesia in the first round to win the XCC belt. He got knocked down four times and then hit Ateb with an uppercut and won in the span of about 4 minutes. I hire him in every game I play even though it's a real struggle trying to give him wins.

Populating the world with tons of regens is really fun and keeps the divisions very fresh but I have at least a minute's full loading between days now, sometimes a lot more if there's at lot of AI shows that day. There's only a handful of pre-gens left, and the only one of consequence is Ukiyo, who is easily the greatest of all time in my game with an almost decade long title reign and something like 15 successful defenses. I think his record in-game is something like 35-5 (two losses to da Silva Ramos in a tetralogy he won 3-2, loss to the light heavyweight champion, and two losses to the middleweight who took his belt). He lost his title but he still beats everyone who's not the champion. Legend.

I've experimented with this in my ALPHA-1 game (currently in 2023). If there's established fighters in the division but no clear #1 and #2 I'll usually mix the top ranked poached fighters in with homegrown ones moving to the weight class and do an 8 man grand prix over a year or so. If it's an entirely unestablished division (I opened up women's flyweight, and populated the world with a lot of regens) I have two one night tournaments on television to determine the two title contenders. In the meantime I'll book a bunch of other flyweight fights to get someone to at least two wins in the meantime, who can challenge for the belt afterwards.

This is a fairly simple suggestion, but one that I think would add a lot of flavour, especially to very long games. I'm currently in 2020 and when a whole generation of pregenerated characters have retired and there's basically only regens, it would be a nice way to mark those fighters who were good enough to fight for the title either in your organization, or, more importantly, in other ones. There's three other High Level International promotions in my game, plus tons of smaller ones. I think it would add to pregenerated characters, but particularly to regens, who always need it. It would be cool if the champion who they lost to could be mentioned as well, at least in the Achivements screen.

<p>Is Toshiaki Ukiyo an absolute monster in anyone else's game? He's easily the GOAT in mine.</p><p> </p><p> 36-2 (29-2 ALPHA-1)</p><p> </p><p> #1 or #2 P4P for the last half decade.</p><p> </p><p> Current ALPHA-1 Middleweight champion (Jul 2012 - present, Jan 2018, 11 defenses)</p><p> </p><p> Former ALPHA-1 Middelweight champion (Defeated da Silva Ramos to unify with interim title, Jul 2010 - Jul 2011)</p><p> </p><p> Former ALPHA-1 Middleweight interim champion (Aug 2009 - Jul 2010, 2 defenses)</p><p> </p><p> Fighter of the Year 2015</p><p> </p><p> Fight of the Year 2008 (vs. da Silva Ramos)</p><p> </p><p> Most consecutive title defenses (11)</p><p> </p><p> 4th most title defenses in total (12, only current champion near the top of the list)</p><p> </p><p> 5th all time career earnings ($15.904.926) - he's 35 and everyone above him in the list is retired.</p><p> </p><p> 7x Knock Out of the Night</p><p> </p><p> 2x Submission of the Night</p><p> </p><p> 14x Fight of the Night</p><p> </p><p> His only two losses are to da Silva Ramos.</p><p> </p><p> Lost via headkick TKO in his first title shot in 2009.</p><p> </p><p> da Silva Ramos went on hiatus so Ukiyo took the interim belt and beat da Silva Ramos by unanimous decision when he came back from hiatus in 2010.</p><p> </p><p> Then da Silva Ramos beat him by leg kick TKO (!) to win back the belt in 2011.</p><p> </p><p> Ukiyo hasn't lost since, he won back the belt with another unanimous decision in 2012.</p><p> </p><p> da Silva Ramos tried one last time in 2015 to win the belt, but Ukiyo demolished him in 35 seconds with a headkick - the same strike da Silva Ramos beat him with in their first fight.</p><p> </p><p> So he's 3-2 in probably the greatest rivalry of all time in my game.</p><p> </p><p> I have to say, this game is a masterpiece in emergent narratives. I haven't played for about six months and just loaded my save back up and I remember everything.</p>

<p><img alt="OY5XAkx.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/OY5XAkx.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I think maybe it's time to put this game aside for a bit. I think I want to start a BHOTWG game instead.</p>

I'm in June 2017 with ALPHA-1 and it's interesting how regens gradually begin to fill in for the established guys. 6/10 champions are regens - only Antonio Rimando at heavyweight, Nakasawa at light heavyweight, Toshiaki Ukiyo (monster, 28-2 in-game, currently on 10 consecutive defenses with 13 total, only losses are to da Silva Ramos and he's up 3-2 against him) at middleweight and KT McNamara at Women's Bantam are left.

I've played my current ALPHA-1 game (now in 2013) without ever looking at the skills page of my fighters (except for when I check a regen before I hire them, and never again) and man it's so much more fun. You continually get surprised by the results of the fights, you get way more invested in reading the fights (because you're trying to figure out how good this guy is) and I think especially you start to develop some idea of how these guys fight and it becomes much easier to visualize. It's an idea.

Golden Canvas Grappling, Apr 2019 GCG World Heavyweight Champion: Helikaon [KC Glenn] Finally defeated Okamoto for the title after winning the Carnival of Battle, my 32-man single elimination tournament. Then he defeated the legendary Tadiyuki Kikkawa to solidify his reign. Now he's facing (and beating) Kozue Kawashima to essentially have defeated the best of GCG, BHOWTG and PHGW in his first three. After that it's Spirit Ignition (G1) time, and I'm still undecided on whether or not Okamoto's winning, and whether or not Okamoto is reclaiming the title. GCG Openweight Champion: Masaru Ugaki My second main event title, elevated out of the midcard by Okamoto. Ugaki defeated SATO to win the title, and then Greg Gauge, and his next opponent is Yasuhide Tayama, who I love dearly but can't justify giving a big belt. Maybe next year. I'm probably going to gradually transition this belt into having one or two multi-man matches every year. GCG King of Fighters: SUKI My newly inaugurated belt, going to be an upper midcard title. Sometimes main event, sometimes not, depends on who's holding it. It's a way for me to take risks with my champions because after buying PHGW, my main event is waaaay too stacked. SUKI's fighting Tadiyuki Kikkawa next - the last King of Fighters. GCG World Heavyweight Tag Team: Honour Guard (Hiroyasu Gakusha & Raymond Diaz) With four consecutive 100 or 99 defences, this team is really tearing it up. They won the title after winning my inaugural Union of Spirits tournament (World Tag League, but with main eventers). Obviously a main event title - and the strength of Gakusha's work with the title has already propelled him 30% of the way to the Hall of Immortals. I think I might try to get him in there as a fun project before he deteriorates too much. My tag team division in general is incredible. GCG All-Japan Midcard title. Sir Winston Watoga is working on his 10th consecutive defence. Probably going to be defeated at some point in the near future by El Mitico Jr. GCG Extreme Division Midcard title. Shingen Miyazaki is the inaugural champion - this is a way for me to book a fun extreme match at every PPV. Tables, scaffolding, weapon on a pole, whatever. Something to break up the relentless 1v1 singles matches. I'm just on the precipice of International. Easily #1 in Japan (beating BHOWTG and WLW by about 1000 points in the National Battle, bought everyone else who matters), Cult in America and Canada, gonna hit Cult at some point everywhere else thanks to Reverie. I think I'm running my guys too ragged though as everyone is at least partially yellow in Physical, think I'm gonna book this golden generation for a few more years and then call it a game.

I turn on fantasy booking and book the fight anyway. I think that feature's slightly silly sometimes.

<p><strong>ALPHA-1: Silva vs. Ateb</strong></p><p> Saturday, Week 4, 2005</p><p> </p><p> Ateb of Indonesia captured the ALPHA-1 Welterweight belt from the seemingly invincible Manuel Silva (26-1, 4-1 ALPHA-1) by unanimous decision.</p><p> </p><p> The win caps off an incredible 18 months for Ateb, where after suffering his third defeat to Sukarno, he moved up in weight. In no short order he destroyed former champion Ishisaki Miyagi, undefeated Domingo de Vivanco, perennial contender Will Kane, and finally Manuel Silva to conquer the division.</p><p> </p><p> After destroying former long standing champion Noach Van Der Capellen inside the first minute with a tricky lead uppercut and follow up punches, the successful defenses against Fukusubaru Hirano and Nathan Chambers set Silva up to rule the division for a long time.</p><p> </p><p> Ateb had other things on his mind. In a brutal, grinding fight where Silva dominated the first fifteen minutes with a savage and unpredictable attack - including a knockdown coming off of a flying knee - Ateb seemed to have finally reached the limit of where he could go in the division as an undersized lightweight.</p><p> </p><p> Instead, Silva begin to slow down underneath the relentless pace set by Ateb. A sensational head kick in the third round knocked Silva to the ground and Ateb surged, and began taking over the fight. Mixing in takedowns with lead hooks and extended combination work to keep Silva working, his plan seemed to culminate in the final round when he again smashed through Silva's guard with a brutal left, but failed to finish him. </p><p> </p><p> It was one of the most violent title fights in recent memory, and one that won't soon be forgotten. Time will tell if Ateb can truly compete against the giants at welterweight - Silva himself is small for the weight class - and with Noach Van Der Capellen set for the next shot, Ateb has a difficult challenge on the horizon. But if he's up for it, he will have defeated the two of the greatest welterweight fighters in history back to back.</p><p> </p><p> -</p><p> </p><p> Kanekazi Fujii (15-1, 13-1 ALPHA-1) defeated Pai Cheng (14-2, 4-2 ALPHA-1) by TKO at 3:12 of the sixth round. Fujii was able to outstrike Cheng for the duration of the contest, while shaking off takedown attempts and matching Cheng in the clinch. With the win, his 8th in a row, coming via his trusted right hand inside a tiring Cheng's jab, Fujii has almost certainly secured himself a shot at the winner of Ivanov vs. Satinho for the belt. </p><p> </p><p> -</p><p> </p><p> Rafael Van Der Moot (19-3, 8-3 ALPHA-1) knocked out Aleksei Chekhov 26-9, 4-4 ALPHA-1) 53 seconds into the fight with a brutal head kick and follow up punches. It was a return to form for Van Der Moot, who has been known for his tendency to underperform relative to his skills. Losses to Osamu Dan and Gyakuda Teshigahara, and a failure to finish Silvio Leite in his last fight, have all been weighing heavy on his reputation. With the win, he silenced his critics.</p>

<p>I used to book optimally (young up and comers on looong winning streaks, old guys getting fed to the young guys, etc.), but as I've played more and more WMMA, I started booking with my heart instead. It's really fun when, like, Carlos da Guia or Bobby Brubaker or someone like this claws his way back to a title shot at 40 after a few rough years. Or when a journeyman fighter gets a winning streak so you put him against a top guy he's got a stylistic advantage against to make sure he gets the title shot. In my XCC game Gene Oakley, who's your bog standard 3-2 brawler at the start of the game, knocked out Ateb in the first round to win the title after a career of winning some, losing some. He got knocked down three times in a row but then found Ateb's chin and that was that. Never defended the title but it happened like a year ago and I still remember it.</p><p> </p><p> Booking purely optimally, with all of your champions being undefeated, gets kinda boring I think. I like it when there's a 15-7 champion who no one expected to win. Mirrors real life MMA better as well.</p>

Finally passed into 2019 with GCG. Razan Okamoto is the World Heavyweight champion, he's held it since May. Of his five defenses, two were rated 100 (against KC Glenn and Bulldozer Brandon Smith) and three of them 99 (against Yoshinaka Taku, SUKI, and Kozue Kawashima). He even pulled off a 96 against aging Tadiyuki Kikkawa to take the title, and Kikkawa's in mad decline. SATO is the Openweight champion, a title which Okamoto elevated to the main event last year. He took it from Bulldozer Brandon Smith in September and so far he's pulled off two 99s (against KC Glenn and Tetsunori Yasuda) and a 95 (against Bussho Makiguchi). The Goon Squad (Shimpei Hirose and Yoshinaka Taku) are the Tag Team champions, which is a main event title because my tag scene is pretty great. They just defeated The Vanguard (Masaru Ugaki and Kazushige Matsuki) because Ugaki tweaked his knee. Sir Winston Watoga is the All-Japan champion, a new midcard belt which I created because the Openweight title is for main eventers now. Watoga's won young wrestler of the year two years running now. But he's not actually that good so it's a bit weird. As far as tournament titles go, Spirit Ignition (G1 equivalent) held in July was won by KC Glenn this year, but he failed to defeat Okamoto for the title. Carnival of Battle (single elimination tournament) held in February, was won by Tadiyuki Kikkawa, who defeated Hiroyasu Gakusha for the World title. Union of Spirits (tag team round robin tournament) held in December, was won by Hiroyasu Gakusha & Raymond Diaz, who will challenge The Goon Squad in January. Lion Cup (single elimination tournament for wrestlers who have not previously contended for a main event title) was won by Bussho Makiguchi, who failed to defeat SATO for the Openweight title. Plans going forward are for KC Glenn to win the Carnival of Battle and finally beat Okamoto for the title. KC is the best wrestler in the world, and he's also my most popular wrestler, but I like the storyline of him chasing and chasing and not quite getting there until now. He's won the tag belts with Gauge though, and they were voted tag team of the year 2018. Okamoto and KC is definitely the money feud for my company going forward. I'm not sure yet who's going to beat SATO. Possibly Bulldozer Brandon Smith, who really is his great rival (and who I love) but I don't want to just trade the title back and forth between them. Maybe one of the PHGW guys, like Kawashima, before their bodies totally break down. I'm undisputed #1 in Japan (BHOWTG and WLW both seesaw between National and Cult since I wreck them in the National Battle) and since I signed up for Reverie, I'm gradually growing my international popularity. I'm also making about two million a month so eventually the Golden Canvas Grappling Network will make a splash.

<p><img alt="uovlo7v.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/uovlo7v.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Snagged the ol' 100 rated match, for my biggest show of the year, between my two best and most popular workers.</p>

He's been struck with age decline since day 1 of my game - I had him win Carnival of Battle (my single elimination tournament) in 2016 but since then he's been transitioning down into the midcard, currently tagging with Fujio Narahashi.

<p><img alt="SylAs4F.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/SylAs4F.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Two 99 rated matches and a surprisingly good main event from a declining Kikkawa, plus Bulldozer Brandon Smith and Shimpei Hirose pulling out a 95 for their match.</p><p> </p><p> Kikkawa was brought in to help me win the national battles, which was kind of idiotic in retrospect because once Helikaon and Okamoto became main eventers they were scoring 916 and 882 respectively. Kikkawa won my single elimination tournament, Carnival of Battle, and defeated Gakusha for the title. This is his first defence, his next one is happening just before my G1 equivalent, Spirit Ignition, and he's going to drop the title to...</p><p> </p><p> Razan Okamoto, who finally agreed to bulk up to middleweight so I could put my heavyweight title on him. The title has bounced between Hiroyasu Gakusha, Raymond Diaz and (now) Kikkawa for the last two years, so it'll be great to have a champion who's a young up and comer. I had him lose the Openweight title (my other main event title, which, as the name suggests, is open to everyone regardless of weight) in December and then reach the finals of Carnival of Battle, only to be defeated by Kikkawa. Now he's on a winning streak and is coming for Kikkawa. I have lots of stories in mind for him - he's 2-2 with Gakusha, 1-1 with Raymond Diaz, will be 1-1 with Kikkawa, 1-1 with Mabuchi Furusawa, etc., and with guys like SATO, Helikaon and Tsuneyo Yanagimoto just waiting to take the step to the next level for a world title shot.</p><p> </p><p> Buckshot are Greg Gauge and Helikaon (KC Glenn). They've elevated the tag titles to 100 prestige, total main event titles, to the point where I'm considering adding a round robin tag league to my yearly schedule, or at least a PPV where the tag titles get to headline. Helikaon is also regularly voted the best worker in the world.</p><p> </p><p> e: Named Buckshot because Gauge is the leader of my Gaijin stable, 12 Gauge. Get it?</p><p> </p><p> Currently making money, #1 in Japan but with plans for a bigger expansion as soon as I have the cash to create a broadcaster, or one of the big worldwide streaming services opens up.</p>