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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="skinsfan55" data-cite="skinsfan55" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41191" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Vince is the genetic jackhammer and all</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nah, that's the 'roids, fam.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="skinsfan55" data-cite="skinsfan55" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41191" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt="aRIpsZa.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/aRIpsZa.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Now that's what I call a power couple.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Spirophore" data-cite="Spirophore" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41174" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Snip</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, in my database I've made Tommy Jr into a complete bum (the Gary Stu-ness of Senior is bad enough, but I can't do anything about that without a lot of work to alter canon), but I missed LSM and it's 5 years into the game now so I'll just have to live with it.</p><p> </p><p> In my particular universe (RTG game) I've taken to briefly talking over the AI companies to help them out (giving PSW and CZCW weekly events to get them to move up to cult, for instance) because I've found they really need it in long games. </p><p> </p><p> NOTBPW was characteristically raided by USPW (since renamed Global Wrestling Entertainment for their change in audience focus), fell to cult, and I noticed they were pulling C+ shows due to having a very depleted and aging main event scene. A few months later and NOTBPW became my universe's first major integrated promotion with a World Title victory for Lauren Easter.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shc89" data-cite="shc89" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41174" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Snip</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> At first this sounded like a typical fantasy booking game in the early 90s where the player grabs all the rising talent that they know is going to be spectacular, but your last paragraph has me honestly intrigued with how you'll run this game. A world in which WCW and WWF are on friendly terms? We'll see if it can last. Please do come back to give us periodic updates.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41191" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was thinking the exact same thing! Especially for a 10 year deal? I find it hard to believe that after 10 years you are never going to have them in a segment period.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It just means that their push will always be as an in-ring competitor, not that you can't use them in angles.</p>

That is the correct interpretation.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm in my fourth year and I still don't make enough money to run two shows a month. I would stick to one, it's the only way you'll stay in the black.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Strongly disagree. If the wrestling industry is strong enough to gain pop with each show, I run two shows a month as soon as I can do so without losing money. The faster growth to Small is extremely valuable and once you make it you're unlikely to be in danger of bankruptcy for the remainder of your game unless you are a terrible financial manager.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ravo" data-cite="Ravo" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Using a November RW mod, just started. Cheapest ref I can get wants £350 PPA, how the hell am I going to survive when my ref is on more than the workers I plan on getting? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Edit: My owner left after a week and Jeff Jarrett has taken over... -.-</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you're an extremely low pop local company, just have your workers fill in as refs and road agents.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="AlsoTony" data-cite="AlsoTony" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41174" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So my company has been stuck at small for almost 2 years now. I've been consistently winning regional battles for the past year and putting on B (occasionally +) rated shows, yet my popularity in my home region (the only place I've yet run a show) refuses to climb above E+, even with my momentum now at A*. Just now I noticed that i was not getting the "increased popularity in 1 region." message after a show and i can only imagine this has been the case for a while.<p> </p><p> My question is why? Is there something simple I'm overlooking or some intricacy to the popularity mechanic beyond putting on a show above your current popularity?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The wrestling industry likely currently has a very low rating in your nation.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Antitonic" data-cite="Antitonic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Finally got around to working on this. I'm still a little bit off starting fully, but it's just flavour stuff at this point for a diary/blog. Let me know if I'm missing anything; I'm using a mix of i_effin_rule's <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=533960" rel="external nofollow">Effganic 1920</a> mod as a base, the locations from the Default CVerse and sockpuppet's <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=534600" rel="external nofollow">Manly Mod</a> for extra gimmicks/injuries/locations, so I had to do a little bit of a workaround.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So are you running the effganix world up to your debut? I've thought about doing that, too. I'm interested to hear how it goes.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dr. Hook" data-cite="Dr. Hook" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It seems to care- if you are two levels below, I recall the message "worse than" whereas when I moved up to one level below, it said "slightly worse than." Not sure if there is an actual difference, but the wording suggests there is.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've noticed the same. I believe there's a difference in 1 level vs. 2 levels difference. I'm not sure there's a difference between 2 vs. 3 or even vs. 4 levels of difference.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gungner" data-cite="Gungner" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In all fairness, one the women in question was Chyna... but the other two should be attractive, so I should've been 2:25 <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> But no, I hope someone can tell me that stat required for women to be labelled "attractive".</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I THINK it's B- that's a minimum to satisfy that requirement.</p>

Eight 100s and a 99 on one show. Can you say "unbalanced mod?"

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="James Casey" data-cite="James Casey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So, I'm at Local and getting slapped down by RIPW every show I run because of their vastly superior production values.<p> </p><p> I've raised each category 1 or 2 levels (basically got all the cheap-ish ones).</p><p> </p><p> Does being closer, but still worse, than a rival have any impact on the effect on my show ratings? </p><p> </p><p> My 5 shows pre-Local were C+, C, C, C, C. </p><p> </p><p> Post-Local they've been D+, D, D+, D, D+, D+.</p><p> </p><p> I'm not changing any of my general booking approaches and my workers are much the same, so I'm not sure whether raising my production values is reaping any benefits, or if I'd be better off banking the 2k or so a month it's costing me to have the bare minimum required at Local.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Being only one level below has an impact; I'm not sure if there's any difference between being 2 or 3 (or more) levels lower is any different from each other.</p><p> </p><p> The pros/cons is hard to say. I think it's highly dependent on your goals with the company, competitors, economy, and wrestling industry.</p><p> </p><p> Running one show a month is probably going to get you a net loss in popularity, but is of course less costly (although if you've upgraded music and broadcast production to the point where they don't have a "per show" cost, running more shows is more cost effective for them). A high economy/poor wrestling industry would be a good time for this approach--sponsorship money would remain near peak and the extra cost of running more shows won't see equivalent returns in popularity.</p><p> </p><p> Running biweekly or weekly shows is going to put you at a more significant loss, but you'll ultimately probably find yourself with a net gain in popularity. If you keep pushing in this direction, you'll eventually start making a solid profit at the upper levels of Small and then break into Regional. I think it's probably worth trying this route at any time that wrestling industry is average to high, since staying at low Small and getting pummeled in regional battles every month is probably eventually going to kill your company.</p>

That's true than an industry in the toilet at game start makes this challenge tremendously more difficult. With all the tag, six man, and multi-man combinations you can run, I can't imagine hitting the repetitive booking penalty if you're making an effort. Besides, aside from your UC and one or two strong workers (usually Wolfsbaine, Whitehead, and/or DaLay in the USA), it makes sense to cycle through the other cheap jobbers every couple months. Or since contracts at Local don't need a downside, you can hire as many as you want, but then you'll have to worry about morale.

My strategy, starting in the Great Lakes (so I wound up in regional battles with NYCW and PSW as soon as I hit small also) was to run weekly shows from the beginning. My economy was around C for most of the time I think but industry was below D for the first 18 months. My owner was the road agent and then, of course, I focused on using the cheapest workers available--and as few of them as possible on each show. The exception was Wolfsbaine, who main evented every week. I hit Small by late summer/early fall and entered the regional battles. I lost but putting on multiple shows at least allowed me to continue with a net gain in popularity and the subsequent attendance increases. By December I started beating out NYCW to get second in the battles and by January was turning a profit. At this point I may have actually increased production values on the two that don't have "per-show" costs (Music and Video, I think?) as it's the most cost effective. I finished the 18 month window with over $10k in the bank and started beating PSW for first shortly after that. I still strongly believe that weekly shows are the best way to complete the challenge. Even at large Small (excuse the oxymoron), the profit from attendance outweighs the profit from sponsors.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mvargus" data-cite="mvargus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah, the rise to Small is a bit of a surprise, especially as you quickly discover that you have to pay quite a bit to increase your production values to compete with far more established companies.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I find it's not necessary to worry about your production values at Small unless you're only running one show a month and are in regional battles. Otherwise, the shows your putting on even with the penalties are still good enough to raise your popularity. If you're running weekly shows, the pop gain will outweigh the loss from losing the regional battle.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yes. Basically the more people who see a show the more overness that a worker can gain from appearing on it.<p> </p><p> A victory in a 10 minute match on a show seen by 1,000,000 will garner more overness than the same match on a show seen by 2,000.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Although if a B-show has bigger coverage, I'm not sure that's necessarily true. No human player would do this, but the AI sometimes does.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dr_Avalanche" data-cite="Dr_Avalanche" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>At the risk of dragging this discussion past its best before date, I kind of figured the editor would be involved, but I can't find a section where I can set the ownership, so how would it be done?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Add a contract between your selected owner and your company. Save it. Then go to your company again and edit the power structure. Select your desired owner from the drop down and save.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dr_Avalanche" data-cite="Dr_Avalanche" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh. I read this in the opening post of this thread and understood it as I had some influence of the ownership</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You can set them in the editor prior to starting the game.</p>

<p>Running a R2G game, but I like to meddle with the AI when I see the opportunity to do something interesting with the game world.</p><p> </p><p> It's the summer of 2019 and 21CW is $12mil in debt and the banks came knocking (noticed they went out of business, so reloaded to the day before). Rather than let it die with a whimper, I thought it would make more sense for either TCW or SWF to use the situation to make a move against USPW, which has been dominating national battles everywhere since the beginning of the game. SWF was national and had more than twice the money (in the ballpark of $75mil), so I chose them. </p><p> </p><p> SWF purchased the rights to "Best of British Wrestling," 21CW's titles, several PPV events (London Calling immediately replaced Break Like the Wind because what a terrible name for a non-comedy company), and about 20 of 21CW's most popular workers. I set up a brand split, mostly to keep the SWF stars from tanking any shows held in Britain as 21CW had managed to get coverage in the US prior to going under and most of their main event is quite over in the States. I simmed far enough ahead for a few shows to happen and was pleasantly surprised that Supreme TV and Best of British Wrestling were both run very well.</p><p> </p><p> This will eventually lead to a nationalist backlash in the UK where one of the billionaires based there will open a heavily-funded promotion to fill the void left by the buyout.</p><p> </p><p> I am curious about what it's going to mean for TCW, who have been stuck between Cult and National--especially since my company, CZCW, and PSW (the latter two due to my meddling giving them a weekly show in a second region) on the doorstep of Cult. Japan is currently supporting 5 Cult+ companies; could the USA support 6?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bulletproof" data-cite="Bulletproof" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am about to give the RTG challenge a try for the first time. I will be using the Cornell Verse 97 mod and I have pretty much everything set up ready to go (character and stats, starting promotion). I have one question though that doesn't seemed to be answered in the opening post; what about the character's personality? Is it required to be set to a certain template or am I free to set the character's traits to however I'd like?<p> </p><p> Also, I assume the Start Variance should be set to "Off", correct?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Personality doesn't matter for a user character. The game never takes it into account.</p><p> </p><p> I believe variance is your choice. It honestly won't affect your game much either way.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Lucas Gaule" data-cite="Lucas Gaule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41191" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Now i can't stop imagining André beating a gay.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> "A gay" is not an acceptable term. "A gay man" is fine. I don't think you meant it maliciously, just giving you a heads up.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mvargus" data-cite="mvargus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There are some tradeoffs in the game logic. This one is based on the premise that the "smart" wrestling fans check out the internet and note what people are saying about the experience at the other companies the same size as yours, so if you aren't putting on as good a show with a good policy of uploading top quality video highlights, they tend to look a bit down on your shows overall.<p> </p><p> Not really realistic, but its used to cover a number of things. And it does force the player to make a few more intelligent decisions.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Overall I like the new feature of production values and I expect it will be refined and only get better in years to come. I'm not a coder but I have no doubt that it was complex to add whole cloth and that, for now, putting further parameters on it did not have good return on time invested.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheOmniWarrior" data-cite="TheOmniWarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah the penalties for production values [especially for being an indy company] are ridiculously stiff. Nobody goes to Chikara and craps all over it that hard for it not being evolve lmao. I recently made the jump to regional and was starting to make money and booking multiple shows in the low 60s.... same level of matches and angles now that I finally bought in production and all that to an equal level of my competition... low 80s. 20 point difference.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't mind that the production penalties are so stiff, I just don't see why I'm being compared to companies running shows in New York and California if I'm running shows in Chicago.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lavelleuk" data-cite="lavelleuk" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The other thing is that TCW just grew to national one day, and wet back down to cult the very next day, again I am assuming that isn't right? isn't there supposed to be a one month period where you can't fall anyway let alone just having one day at national?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There's a one month period where they won't be affected by national battles. However, I believe they can drop in size due to other factors (putting on a poor show that loses popularity, importance dropping in an area, etc).</p>