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21 hours ago, Jaysin said:
Ohhhh is it real world or fictional? Your one real world diary was top notch.
Real World. Although I also have a pretty good start on a CVerse dynasty with CZCW that I would love to post eventually as well. Truth be told, I'd probably already be pretty deep into posting a dynasty if it hadn't taken me so long to decide which one I wanted to do first.
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Unless something unforeseen comes up, there will be at least one more fairly soon! 😉
And it may very well reach 40 pages even if no one replies! Best laid plans and all that, though.
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On 1/12/2023 at 1:30 PM, mmaaddict said:
In 1996 in a WWF game. I just signed Nikita Koloff to be a manager and he is going to manage a team of Lance Storm and Perry Saturn who I have just signed both. Going to be the "tough, no nonsense, bad ass" type of team.
I'm racking my brain and the best name I have come up with for them is The Assassins which I don't love. Suggestions?
The Pain Division
The Hard Truth
Iron Will
The Iron Fist
The Iron Curtain
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Looking for tag team chemistry in pre-show matches in my 2016 CZCW dynasty, I teamed up Princeton Pryce and Robbie Wright and they had excellent chemistry. I named them The Pryce is Wright and they went on to be multiple time tag champs.
Edit: I forgot to mention their finisher, which was a tilt-a-whirl DDT from the Doomsday Device position called the "Come on Down" as in "Come on down, you're the next contestant on the Price is Right!"
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12 hours ago, Temes1066 said:
I have always mildly disliked CZCW, but I really hate them in the Alternate 2018 Cornell-verse Mod.
CZCW has always been my favorite, but I've never played the Alternate 2018 mod. What's up with them in that mod that causes you to really hate them?
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15 hours ago, CQI13 said:
Looking to forego the obvious "The Montgomories" as a stable name for Robert Montgomery Sr and his kids as they debut. Mid South is crowded enough as it is in my game, so I had Robert Montgomery Sr open the company in the Southeast. I want to hire his kids as they join the world. Any suggestions on the stable name? The stable name might also pull double duty as the Tag Team name, at least early on.
Heritage or The Heritage.
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7 hours ago, Sharkn20 said:
How do I get to that screen in which it shows the body and the wear and tear of the wrestler, including current injuries?
Thanks in advance.
Click "Skills" in their profile and it's on the right under the "Physical Health" heading. Under that are arrows that allow you to scroll between current injuries, old injuries, and injuries caused.
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I would like to be included, please.
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If i have freestyle angle with
Wrestler A (well known) - rated on entertainment
Wrestler B (well known) - rated on entertainment
Wrestler C (unknown - tryng to get over and improve skills) - not rated
Will wrestler Cs entertainment skills improve, or will he only be able to get a pop boost due to the rating?
Do the workers need to be rated on the specific skill to improve it?
Does anyone have a definitive answer for this? I've seen a lot of conflicting info on the subject.
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If i have freestyle angle with
Wrestler A (well known) - rated on entertainment
Wrestler B (well known) - rated on entertainment
Wrestler C (unknown - tryng to get over and improve skills) - not rated
Will wrestler Cs entertainment skills improve, or will he only be able to get a pop boost due to the rating?
Do the workers need to be rated on the specific skill to improve it?
Maybe I've overlooked it, but I've never seen a clear and concise answer to this question despite it being asked many times. I'd really like to know this as well if anyone knows.
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Thank you very much for doing these, Walter. They're very nice and really clean looking!
After making the initial request, I decided to go ahead and take a crack at these myself just in case no one else had time. I figure I'm not always going to be lucky enough for someone to take the time to do logos for me, so I might as well try to figure it out for myself. They're not great, but I think a few of them turned out pretty good. If I can just figure out how to keep more of the quality when I resize the canvas to 150 x 150, I think I'd be in business. Also, kudos to CQ113 for the logos he did for me, since I ended up using the same logos as he used for about half of these.
TWL Texas RevolutionTWL Texas Two Step
TWL The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
TWL True Grit
TWL King of Texas
TWL The Unforgiven
TWL High Noon
TWL Once Upon a Time In The West
TWL Young Guns
TWL The Texas Panhandle Massacre
TWL South of the Border
TWL Wanted: Dead or Alive
TWL Wild West Wednesday - TV Show
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="48560" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt="6upsmbn.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/6upsmbn.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="TwPPFP9.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/TwPPFP9.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="823w6Hu.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/823w6Hu.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="kBxHqJj.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/kBxHqJj.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="SfCDkl7.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/SfCDkl7.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="uKPXvE5.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/uKPXvE5.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="4LeXUYZ.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/4LeXUYZ.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="xnlFcuZ.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/xnlFcuZ.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="Bh2tU0i.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/Bh2tU0i.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="4wMLIM3.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/4wMLIM3.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="Hey6bQs.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/Hey6bQs.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="GSFJPNp.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/GSFJPNp.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> <img alt="CC8QixX.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/CC8QixX.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks so much for doing these, CQ113! I truly appreciate it!</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="WalterSobchak" data-cite="WalterSobchak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="48560" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I’m working on your request and will have it up on my thread in the Mod’s section later on Monday.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks, Walter! Very much looking forward to seeing what you come up with. Especially after seeing the other graphics work you've done!</p>
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I know it's a long long longshot for a request of this size, but you never know if you don't ask. I'm planning a very long-term save and hopefully dynasty with CZCW and I'll be bringing back the Texas Wrestling League as a dev company and I need some event pics for them. I tried doing these myself, but I just can't get anything to turn out looking decent in paint.net. I used to be fairly competent with photoshop many years ago, but don't have access to it anymore and have forgot most of what I knew. Anyway, these are the event names:
TWL Texas Revolution
TWL Texas Two Step
TWL The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
TWL True Grit
TWL King of Texas
TWL The Unforgiven
TWL High Noon
TWL Once Upon a Time In The West
TWL Young Guns
TWL The Texas Panhandle Massacre
TWL South of the Border
TWL Wanted: Dead or Alive
TWL Wild Wild Wednesday - TV Show
For reference, this is the outstanding logo I'm using for the company courtesy of willr0ck's graphics thread, so big thanks to him.
Like I said, I know such a large request is a longshot, but I'd appreciate absolutely any help at all with any of these. Thanks!
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The babyface midcard of TCW besides T-Bone Bright and Edd Stone.
Out of these listed who will you want to re-sign and push Tana, Fonzarelli, Benny Benson , Chance, flying Jimmy fox, Darryl Devine, One Man Army, Bart Biggins, Dazzling Dave Diamond, and Human Arsenal.
This sets you up to build a couple heels easily such as Greg Gauge, Roderick Remus, and Nick Booth. Just would’ve liked another face or two to offset the age.
I concur. Outside of T-Bone and Edd, the TCW face midcard is in real bad shape. It needs to be rebuilt badly.I haven't played with the Cverse at all in 2020 but I hate to hear that Darryl Devine has ended up as dead weight. I had a ton of fun and success booking him as a heel world champion in my 2016 CZCW save. He got as high as #14 on the Power 500 before I dropped him down to the upper midcard toward the end of the save.
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I've actually been contemplating a diary based on pretty much this exact scenario for the past few years, but the time to commit to such a venture never seems to materialize.
In the latest version I've been pondering, Pee Wee inherits his father's billions after his death and starts the Germaine Entertainment Network(GEN) in an attempt to compete with Reverie, turning CZCW into a "wrestling as a sport" type company with full MMA style weight classes. The CZCW Championship would then become a yearly "achievement" title decided at the December PPV in a Best of the Best Tournament featuring the champion of every weight class.
Cliff would be the full-time lead announcer in this scenario with a yearly Tag Tournament, the Cliff Anderson Classic, ran in his honor as a token of Pee Wee's appreciation.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47898" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I really want to do a MITB type gimmick with WCW in 91, but a multi man ladder match is a little "too much" for 1991. <p> </p><p> Was thinking of calling it the Golden Ticket, but trying to come up with a good match type. </p><p> </p><p> Any ideas?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I really like the name Golden Ticket. It's what I named the MITB type match in my CZCW dynasty from a few years ago. </p><p> </p><p> Since it's 1991, maybe you could just put the prize on a pole in the corner instead of hanging it from the ceiling. I'm not personally a fan of the "on a pole" match type, but they were common enough during the period to not seem out of place, but not so common that it would be super stale.</p><p> </p><p> Or maybe you could just do a straight-up 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 etc. match with the first man to score a pinfall or submission getting the Golden Ticket. You could make it elimination instead, but I think going the sudden death route makes it more exciting.</p><p> </p><p> If it being elimination style isn't a problem, then how about something like the Elimination Chamber but without the cage? 6 or 8 or 10 men draw numbers and numbers 1 and 2 start the match with a new guy entering every 5 minutes. Eliminations occur by pinfall or submission and the last man standing wins. May be a little too similar to War Games if you're currently running those though.</p><p> </p><p> What about something like the Championship Scramble that WWE used to do with the last guy to score a pinfall or submission winning the Golden Ticket instead of a title?</p>
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Oh, I forgot to mention something in the WWF Championship section. After Savage returned at Wrestlemania to help Hogan beat Flair, he would go into a blood feud with Flair over the Elizabeth situation. This would result in a series of matches, each more violent than the last, with the final match being a feud-ending Last Man Standing Match at Summerslam that Savage would've won.
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**I apologize in advance for any grammar mistakes you may find in this, as due to its length and informal nature, I didn't proofread it as closely as I normally do.**
As promised, here's a mostly semi-detailed run down of my plans for this dynasty through Wrestlemania 8 and in some cases more vague plans through Summerslam. I'll start by posting the results of the SNME PPV that I was due to post just before I made the call to start a different dynasty.
Saturday Night's Main Event: Fade To Black
December 28th, 1991
Owen Hart defeated Larry Zbyszko
Hawk & Steve Williams defeated Money Inc. after botched interference by Sid.
Bull Nakano defeated Madusa by DQ in a WWF Women's Championship match after Nakano's partner The Ripper attacked her as she was about to win by submission.
After the match, The Ripper continued to attack Nakano saying the title shot should've been hers since she's the one that pinned Rockin' Robin at Survivor Series.
When British Bulldog was due to come out to face Kevin Sullivan, Commissioner Graham came out instead and announced Bulldog had been assaulted backstage earlier in the show and suffered a lacerated kidney. He questions whether Sullivan knows anything about that, but Sullivan poorly feigns innocence. Graham wipes the smirk off his face by announcing Bulldog's brother-in-law Bret Hart will take Bulldog's place. In reality, I had sent Bulldog to rehab after another failed Hard Drugs test earlier in the week.
Bret Hart squashed Kevin Sullivan in just under 5 minutes.
Despite the best efforts of Nikita Koloff to interfere, Sgt. Slaughter failed in his bid to retain the IC title from Scott Norton, losing even faster than he had at Survivor Series.
Sting wins his in-ring WWF debut over Smash.
Vader squashed Jake Roberts with little trouble and assaulted him some more post-match.
Paul Orndorff defeated Mr. Perfect by DQ when Larry Hennig attacked Orndorff who'd been threatening him the entire match just as Perfect was about to win.
The Undertaker defeated Crush by DQ when the Ultimate Warrior unexpectedly returned early pushing the same casket Undertaker had locked him in at Survivor Series and attacked Undertaker.
Hulk Hogan & Bam Bam Bigelow defeated The Natural Disasters.
Shawn Michaels accepted Roddy Piper's invitation to show up for a special Piper's Pit episode. He brought Brian Pillman with him and Piper nearly managed to get them to fight each other by taunting Pillman about Michaels leaving him behind at Survivor Series. In the end, though, they just attacked Piper instead and left him out cold with a double superkick.
Ric Flair defeated Randy Savage to win the WWF Heavyweight Championship when Ric Flair's master plan had its finishing touch added as Miss Elizabeth turned on Savage to help Flair win. She was in on it all along!
After the match, Flair and Liz would kiss while they stood over a downed Savage.
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Now, on to my plans for January through Wrestlemania 8, with a few plans through Summerslam thrown in.
WWF Championship:
After Liz turned on him at SNME: Fade To Black, Randy Savage goes on hiatus to find himself and says he doesn't know when or if he'll ever be back.
This leaves no # 1 contender to Flair's title, so Commissioner Graham announces that the winner of the 1992 Royal Rumble will face Flair for the WWF Championship at Wrestlemania 8.
Hulk Hogan wins the Royal Rumble, last eliminating Vader, to become the #1 Contender.
Between Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania, jobber Scott Taylor informs Hogan that he saw who attacked him at Summerslam in August. It wasn't The Dragon or Bam Bam Bigelow, it was actually Ric Flair, Vader, and Rick Rude who blindsided Hogan and tried to cripple him. Flair doesn't deny it, saying his plan from the start was to take out Hogan once and for all.
Flair and company injure Taylor for telling Hogan what they'd done, putting him in the hospital. Hogan vows revenge, telling Flair he'll wish he'd never been born after Wrestlemania 8.
At Wrestlemania 8, Taylor's "injuries" are proven to be a ruse on the part of Flair and company, as he tries to attack Hogan to help Flair retain. And it would have worked too, were it not for those meddling k.... were it not for a returning Randy Savage. Savage nails Flair with a pair of brass knucks, allowing Hogan to hit the Big Leg Drop and win the title.
Hogan would go on to successfully defend the title in April against Larry Zbyszko, and May against Rick Rude, before losing it to Vader at King of the Ring.
On that same King of the Ring card, The British Bulldog wins the King of the Ring Tournament by beating Shawn Michaels in the finals. He's injured post-match though, by new WWF Champion Vader, who was set to face the King of the Ring winner at Summerslam in Wembley Stadium. Bulldog will now miss Summerslam.
At the July SNME, Vader retains in a rematch with Hogan, after The Dragon returns with Yokozuna to attack Hogan. This drags Hogan out of the title picture, possibly for good, as the point of giving him the title was to fully establish Vader as a permanent main eventer.
With British Bulldog no longer able to face Vader at Summerslam, Commissioner Graham allows Bulldog to name his replacement for the title shot. Bulldog picks his Brother-in-law, Bret Hart.
Vader retains the WWF Championship against Bret Hart at Summerslam in Wembley when The British Bulldog levels Hart with a steel chair while he has Vader locked in the Sharpshooter, giving Hart the win by DQ but not the title. Bulldog would later admit he was jealous of Bret and couldn't stomach the thought of Hart winning the title in his home country when it was Bulldog's title shot in the first place.
And that's about as far as I got with my plans for the WWF World Heavyweight title. I'm not sure who Vader would have feuded with after Summerslam, but I planned on him having a very long reign.
WWF Intercontinental Championship:
Nikita Koloff challenges Scott Norton to a Russian Chain match for the title at Royal Rumble and Norton accepts.
Norton retains the title and while attacking Koloff and Sgt. Slaughter with the chain post-match, he's attacked by a returning Big Boss Man. If you'll remember, it was Norton and Koloff who had "broken" Boss Man's arm back in November.
Boss Man feels he's the rightful #1 contender since he was due a title shot when Koloff and Norton injured him, and therefore he challenges Norton to title match for Wrestlemania 8. He would prefer to do it now but he's not been medically cleared yet.
Norton agrees to give Boss Man the shot but it has to be at SNME in February and not Wrestlemania 8, injury or no injury. Commissioner Graham isn't having that though and says the match will indeed be at Wrestlemania 8.
Norton retains against Bam Bam Bigelow with Boss Man at ringside at February's SNME. Norton tries to reinjure Boss Man's arm post-match but officials break it up.
Norton mocks Boss Man for having to have officials save him from Norton, but Boss Man says Norton will wish he had someone to protect him at Wrestlemania when justice is finally served.
Norton suggests that if Boss Man is so confident they should make things interesting and make their match at Wrestlemania 8 a Steel Cage match! No refs, no pins, no "officials" or security to rescue Boss Man, just a fight to escape with your life and the Intercontinental title. Boss Man accepts.
Norton dominates Boss Man in the cage match at Wrestlemania 8, ripping the side of the cage down to escape.
I didn't have anything concrete planned past Wrestlemania 8 for the IC title, other than a fairly long undefeated streak for Norton. Some guys I had in mind to potentially end the streak were Sid, Razor Ramon, Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Sting, Brian Pillman, Texas Tornado, or Cactus Jack.
WWF Tag Team Championship:
After accidentally costing Money Inc. the match at SNME: Fade To Black against Hawk and Steve Williams, Sid assures DiBiase that he'll do better at the Royal Rumble. Ted DiBiase is sure he will. Or else!
Sid faces Steve Williams on an episode of Prime Time where Sid reluctantly wins following Ted DiBiase interference. Sid is mad post-match, telling DiBiase he didn't need his help. Cooler heads eventually prevail.
On the "go home" episode of Prime Time the next week, Money Inc. loses to Haku and The Barbarian when Ted DiBiase eats the pin from Haku while arguing with Sid. DiBiase gets in Sid's face after the match and gets Powerbombed to a huge pop.
Sid isn't at ringside with Money Inc. at the Royal Rumble after attacking DiBiase on Prime Time. However, he interferes late in the match and helps Money Inc. retain after teasing that he would help Hawk and Williams instead. After the match, Money Inc. celebrates as Sid accepts a briefcase full of cash from DiBiase.
Haku & Barbarian are named #1 contenders for Money Inc. for February's SNME since they beat Money Inc. on Prime Time two weeks ago.
Money Inc. defeats Haku and Barbarian at SNME after interference by Sid. A 3 on 2 post-match beatdown is stopped by Nikita Koloff and Sgt. Slaughter.
Koloff and Slaughter say they've decided to team up, named Scars and Stripes, and they challenge Money Inc. to a tag title match at Wrestlemania 8. They say they're tired of seeing Money Inc. retain through cheating over and over. They've both done their fair share of cheating, regrettably, so they know what it's like and never want to see another victim of it.
Money Inc. agrees to face Scars and Stripes but only if it's a 3 on 2 Handicap match with Sid as their partner. Scars and Stripes accept but they've added a stipulation of their own courtesy of Commissioner Graham. If Scars and Stripes win, Money Inc. doesn't get the standard rematch afforded them by contract clause AND DiBiase will be banned from the tag tea, division for life! It's agreed.
Scars and Stripes win the tag titles at Wrestlemania 8 when DiBiase gets in Sid's face and gets Powerbombed, allowing Koloff to pin DiBiase. After the match, Sid Powerbombs I.R.S. too and celebrates with Koloff and Slaughter.
Sid would have gone on to feud with DiBiase culminating in a match at Summerslam that Sid would win. From there, I would have mostly used DiBiase to put over future stars and Sid would have moved into the IC title picture with multiple World titles probably in his future. To see what I had in store for the tag titles as I moved toward Summerslam, please see the bottom of the WWF Television Championship section.
WWF Women's Championship:
After The Ripper costs her partner, Bull Nakano, her title match versus Madusa at SNME: Fade To Black, Madusa informs The Ripper that she's welcome to take a shot at the title if she thinks she has what it takes to take it.
The Fabulous Moolah says it was just a misunderstanding amongst her clients and Bull Nakano wants a rematch for the title at the Royal Rumble instead of The Ripper.
The Madusa/Nakano rematch is signed for Royal Rumble but Madusa tells The Ripper she can have her shot after all once Madusa is done with Nakano.
The Royal Rumble sees The Ripper cost Nakano the title again, pulling the referee out of the ring as he was about to count Madusa down for the 3.
Graham announces Bull Nakano vs. The Ripper for February's SNME. The winner gets a shot at Madusa's title at Wrestlemania 8.
The Fabulous Moolah is irate at the Nakano vs. Ripper match made for SNME but Nakano looks pleased in the background. Moolah says Graham should have let her settle this internally. Either way though, one of hers will be wearing the gold after Wrestlemania.
The Ripper wins at SNME after Rockin' Robin returns from injury and hits Ripper and Nakano with chair shots at the same time while the ref is down, causing Ripper to fall on Nakano.
Rockin' Robin taunts The Ripper and Nakano and says she's not through with them yet!
Moolah challenges Madusa and Robin to a Survivor Series rematch against Nakano and Ripper. Madusa and Robin win after pinning Nakano with a double-team move. The Ripper could have broken up the pin but didn't.
Moolah says The Ripper and Nakano pairing is no more as they just can't coexist with the same aspirations. Moolah says she has to back the potential champ The Ripper though, severing ties with Nakano.
Madusa beats The Ripper at Wrestlemania 8 after both Bull Nakano and Rockin' Robin attack The Ripper. Madusa and Robin try to align with Nakano post-match but she takes out both women.
I had several ideas about where to go from there but hadn't decided 100% what I would do just yet. I thought about feuding Madusa with Moolah herself for a bit. Or maybe a face vs. face feud with Rockin' Robin. Or maybe an old meets new feud with Wendi Richter. Either way, it would have all likely worked its way back to Bull Nakano by Summerslam to see who the better woman was without all the interference and unclean finishes their first two matches had. All I know is I just didn't want to go straight back into Nakano so soon since a lot of my "women of the future" just weren't quite ready yet.
WWF Television Championship:
Michael P.S. Hayes gets his rematch with Sir Dave Taylor but Taylor retains for his second defense. I then released Hayes since the injury he suffered a few weeks back was majorly affecting his performances and would have for over another year. I didn't have anything else planned for him anyway.
Taylor makes his 3rd successful defense, defeating Tito Santana on Prime Time.
Taylor makes his 4th and 5th successful defenses of the title by defeating The Rebels, Steve Armstrong and Tracy Smothers, in back-to-back weeks to finish out the month.
Taylor then goes on to feud with Atsushi Onita, who wins the title from Taylor on the third try after Taylor had made 8 successful defenses.
Onita makes a few defenses before losing the title to Shane Douglas courtesy of Taylor.
Taylor then takes the title back from Douglas and goes on to make 10 successful defenses. This of course allows Taylor to chose either a $10,000 reward and the chance to go for $20,000 if he can make 20 successful defenses, or a shot at either the Intercontinental or Tag Team titles if he chooses to forfeit the TV title. Taylor chooses to vacate the TV title and challenge for the Tag Team titles, naming Lord William Regal as his tag team partner.
Taylor and Regal decide to retain The Genius as their manager and dub themselves The Blue Bloods. They would go on to challenge and defeat Scars and Stripes(Koloff and Slaughter) for the tag team titles at Summerslam in their home country of England at Wembley Stadium.
The Ultimate Warrior, Sting, and Crush vs. The Army of Darkness Feud
After returning way earlier than expected from the Army of Darkness attack at Survivor Series, The Ultimate Warrior is granted a request by Commissioner Billy Graham to finish things with The Undertaker once and for all in a Casket Match at the Royal Rumble.
It's announced that Cactus Jack's suspension for attacking Commissioner Graham is up and that he will face Sting at the Royal Rumble.
Crush beats Kevin Sullivan in a match on Prime Time and a post-match attack by Smash is thwarted with authority by Crush. Smash repeatedly tries to attack Crush over the next few weeks, failing miserably each time. During that same period, he also loses multiple matches to people he should've beaten, culminating with a loss to 2 Cold Scorpio. After that match, on the orders of Paul Bearer, Smash is left in a heap by Hercules and Kevin Sullivan. Bearer later scolds Sullivan and Smash for all their recent losses, saying The Undertaker is counting on them to turn things around or else. Crush vs. Hercules is signed for Royal Rumble, as Bearer tells Sullivan and Smash that Hercules will show them how it's done.
Crush beats Hercules at the Royal Rumble after another failed interference attempt by Smash, leading to Smash being beaten down again by Sullivan and Hercules post-match and kicked out of the Army of Darkness. Crush takes pity on Smash and saves him from the beatdown before it goes too far. Demolition would later reform for one night only to beat Hercules and Kevin Sullivan at February's SNME.
At the Royal Rumble, the Sting vs. Cactus Jack match quickly descends into chaos and has to be thrown out as a no contest.
Undertaker defeats Ultimate Warrior in the Casket Match at the Royal Rumble. Post-match, despite the best efforts of Sting and Crush, Cactus Jack, Hercules, and Kevin Sullivan help Undertaker seal Warrior in the casket and roll it away, putting Sullivan and Hercules back in Undertaker and Bearer's good graces.
With Warrior "defeated", Paul Bearer and The Undertaker challenge the winner of the Flair vs. Hogan WWF Championship match at Wrestlemania 8. Commissioner Graham says they can forget it and instead gives Sting the chance to avenge Warrior by setting up a match against The Undertaker at Wrestlemania 8.
In the lead-up to Wrestlemania 8, Cactus Jack continuously attacks Sting to try and soften him up for Undertaker. He attacks him backstage, in parking lots, and before and after matches. Sting accuses Undertaker of being scared and says he can't face Undertaker at Wrestlemania if he's always looking over his shoulder for Cactus. Commissioner Graham agrees and sets up a Falls Count Anywhere match between Sting and Cactus Jack at February's SNME. And he bars all Army of Darkness members from ringside for Wrestlemania.
Cactus Jack beats Sting in the FCA match at SNME when Undertaker interferes and Tombstones Sting on some exposed concrete backstage.
Sting has an injured neck but still faces Undertaker at Wrestlemania 8. He loses though when The Ultimate Warrior returns and attacks Sting, joining The Army of Darkness.
Shortly after Warrior turns heel and joins the Army of Darkness, Hercules is kicked out because he and Warrior can't co-exist. This pisses off Cactus Jack who says Undertaker is getting out of control, first kicking out Smash and now Hercules for basically nothing. Not to mention Army of Darkness members being forced to attack other members every time they lose a match. Cactus and Undertaker almost brawl but Bearer has to break them up.
Kevin Sullivan volunteers to teach Cactus a lesson and put him in his place behind The Undertaker and Warrior. Bearer reluctantly agrees and so does Cactus. A match is set for King of the Ring.
Cactus beats Sullivan at KOTR and Sullivan is relentlessly beaten by Undertaker and Warrior post-match. Cactus tells Sullivan he told him so, but Sullivan says it's his own fault that Undertaker and Warrior had to do what they did.
Cactus says if Sullivan hasn't learned by now he's not going to and is, therefore, a lost cause. So, he'll have to go straight to the head of the beast, challenging Undertaker to a match at July's SNME. Bearer denies the challenge and says Undertaker will only face Cactus, at Summerslam, if he can beat Warrior at July's SNME First. Cactus agrees.
Cactus beats Warrior at SNME with help from Sting, setting up Cactus Jack vs. Undertaker and Sting vs. Ultimate Warrior for Summerslam. The Cactus vs. Undertaker match later has the stipulation added that if Cactus Jack wins, The Army of Darkness must be dismantled. And the Sting vs. Warrior match would be made into a Loser Leaves WWF match. Cactus and Sting would both win.
Mr. Perfect w/ Larry Hennig vs. Paul Orndorff Feud
In an emotional interview, Larry Hennig apologizes to his son for costing him the match against Orndorff at SNME: Fade To Black, and says he'll get out of his hair. Perfect convinces him he's too hard on himself and that he should stay.
Orndorff mocks the Hennigs for being crybabies. Mr. Perfect informs Orndorff he's been granted a rematch by Commissioner Graham since nothing was settled at SNME: Fade To Black, telling Orndorff that he'll be the one crying after Royal Rumble!
Orndorff says it's obvious that Perfect doesn't know when to leave well enough alone, but it's about time he learns once and for all.
Larry Hennig turns on Mr. Perfect at the Royal Rumble, giving Orndorff a fast and easy win. Bobby Heenan is vindicated, as it was Larry Hennig pulling the strings with Orndorff and his attacks on Perfect, and not Heenan as everyone had thought after he lost his managerial license at Summerslam thanks to Perfect.
Perfect is distraught and can't figure out why his father would do this to him. Larry tells him that he's ashamed of him and that if he's so "perfect", he should be able to figure out Larry's motivations.
Commissioner Graham offers Perfect another shot at Orndorff with Larry banned from ringside at February's SNME, but Perfect says he's in no shape to wrestle so soon and maybe never again. Graham says he'll give WWF's newest signing Terry Taylor a crack at Orndorff instead.
Perfect interferes at SNME, giving Terry Taylor the win over Orndorff. Perfect almost punches his father after the match but decides against it.
Perfect says he doesn't know what Larry's problem is, but after thinking about it some more and as much as it pains him, he guesses he'll just have to beat an answer out of him. After he deals with Orndorff once and for all at Wrestlemania 8.
Larry says there's no need to be melodramatic, he'll be happy to tell Perfect his reasons. If he beats Orndorff at Mania that is. Perfect says no more games, win lose or draw, at Wrestlemania, he'll get his answer.
Perfect wins at Wrestlemania despite repeated attempts at cheating by Larry. After the match, Perfect corners Larry, who pleads with Orndorff to help but Orndorff scoffs in disgust and leaves. Perfect threatens his father with a beating if he doesn't tell him why he did this. When Larry still won't say, Perfect asks for a mic. He says he's not gonna stoop to Larry's level and attack family. Larry's reasons for what he did are probably BS anyway. And Perfect turned out to be right as Larry would later admit that he was just upset at Perfect for using the narcissistic Mr. Perfect gimmick instead of just continuing to use his real name as Larry had begged him to do.
Shawn Michaels and Brian Pillman vs. Roddy Piper feud:
After Michaels and Pillman took out Piper in Piper's Pit at SNME: Fade To Black, Piper wants Michaels at the Royal Rumble. Micheals turns him down, saying he's not wrestling twice at the Royal Rumble since he's already thrown his name into the Royal Rumble match. And there's especially no way he's backing out now with a WWF Championship match going to the winner. Piper says that's fine, he'll still see Michaels at the Royal Rumble since he's in the match too.
Micheals is eliminated from the Royal Rumble before Piper enters, but not before he eliminates his friend Pillman from the match.
The next night on Prime Time, Micheals convinces a furious Pillman that he was just doing what he had to to try and win the title shot at Wrestlemania 8 and that Piper is the real enemy. This leads Pillman to challenge Piper for a match at February's SNME.
Piper scolds Pillman for being a lackey to Micheals when he could be so much more and accepts his challenge. He then issues a challenge of his own. After he beats some sense into Pillman at SNME, he wants Michaels for Wrestlemania. Micheals agrees saying just like he told Piper before Survivor Series, any time any place. And what better place than Wrestlemania!
Michaels' selfishness costs Pillman his match with Piper at SNME, which leads to a Pillman face turn as he brawls with Michaels post-match.
Piper and Pillman taunt Micheals and assure him he doesn't have to worry about Pillman interfering at Wrestlemania, since Piper doesn't want any excuses from Micheals when he kicks his ass!
Micheals says good riddance to Pillman, saying tag team partners, or sidekicks in this case, have been nothing but a headache to him in his entire career. It's high time he counts on the only person in the world he can trust to help him get to the top, The Heartbreak Kid himself! "See you at Wrestlemania, geezer!"
Michaels wins clean at Wrestlemania. Piper tries to shake his hand after the match, saying Michaels was tougher than he thought but Michaels drops him with a Sweet Chin Music.
Other feuds leading up to Wrestlemania 8:
With the Jake Roberts and Vader feud ending at SNME: Fade To Black, Jake says he's lost on where to go now that he couldn't get the job done against Vader. But he figures there's no better way to move on than to focus on the biggest prize in the business, announcing his entry into the first-ever #1 contender to the WWF Championship Royal Rumble match.
Roberts of course wouldn't win that match, as that honor went to Hulk Hogan as seen above. Instead, he was eliminated from behind by Bret Hart. Roberts is irate, screaming at Hart that he thought they were friends, to which Hart simply replied that it was every man for himself.
A few weeks later, Owen Hart, accompanied by Bret Hart, is facing Rick Rude on Prime Time. Owen wins after interference from Hulk Hogan, who you'll remember is feuding with Flair and company after Hogan won the Royal Rumble. After the match, Zbyszko runs down and a post-match brawl ensues between Rude/Zbyskzo and the Hart brothers. The heels eventually get the advantage when Zybskzo knocks out Bret with brass knucks and handcuffs him to the ropes. They're about to do the same to Owen, but Jake Roberts makes the save, scaring Rude and Zybskzo away by threatening to release Lucifer. Jake checks on Bret and helps Owen up only to DDT him! Bret is in shock but still handcuffed to the ropes so he can't do anything to stop Roberts. Roberts then ties Owen up in the ropes opposite Bret and reveals that the bag doesn't contain Lucifer, but a King Cobra instead! Roberts taunts Owen with the snake before letting it bite him as Bret looks on helplessly. After successfully keeping officials and paramedics at bay for several minutes, Roberts removes the cobra from Owen's arm and makes his exit. As he's leaving, he reminds Hart of what he told Jake at Royal Rumble, it's every man for himself!
Gene Okerlund is with Bret and Jim Neidhart the next week for an update on Owen's condition. They say he'll make a full recovery since the snake bite was a nearly "dry bite", which is a medical term for a bite where a snake releases either no or nearly no venom. Bret is asked about revenge but says Owen's health comes first right now and he'll deal with Roberts later.
Roberts cuts a heel turn promo about losing his edge, otherwise Vader would have known better than to mess with him. He doesn't blame Vader though and no longer holds a grudge since he would have done the same thing if he hadn't gone soft. So it's back to his old ways. He thought he and Bret were friends but found out how wrong he was when Bret eliminated him from behind in the Royal Rumble. He finishes the promo by saying his attack on Owen was only the beginning and that Bret can expect similar but likely harsher treatment very soon.
Jim Neidhart would return to face Vader, the man who had put him out of action at SNME: Vengeance in October, at February's SNME. Vader wins and destroys both Neidhart and Owen Hart post-match. Bret Hart tries to help but Roberts ambushes him when he comes through the arena curtain and hits a DDT on the exposed concrete. As Vader is heading to the back after he's finished with Neidhart and Owen, he passes a still seated from the DDT Roberts on the aisle. Roberts leers up at him momentarily before his lip curls into an evil smile.
Roberts is interviewed on the next Prime Time by Gene Okerlund who questions Roberts' lack of a snake when he attacked Bret Hart at SNME. Roberts said he had plans to deliver a similar fate to Bret as Owen, but Commissioner Graham said he would be fired if he ever brought a venomous snake to a WWF event again. Okerlund informs Roberts that Bret Hart has asked for and been granted a no disqualification match with Roberts for Wrestlemania 8. Roberts is pleased.
On the "go home" Prime Time, Bret cuts a promo on Roberts. He says Roberts is always telling people to trust him, but Hart never has and never will. But Jake Roberts can trust that Bret Hart is the best there is, was, and ever will be, and he can trust that there will be hell to pay at Wrestlemania 8 for what he did to Owen.
Bret Hart beats Roberts at Wrestlemania, forcing him to pass out in a pool of his own blood to the Sharpshooter after Hart had hit Roberts with a DDT on the ring bell.
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Texas Torndo w/ Tatanka vs. The Berzerker on Prime Time. While Berzerker has Tornado down late in the match, Terry Funk attacks Tatanka again. Unlike at Survivor Series, Tornado intervenes and attacks Funk, but not until he'd already busted Tatanka open.
Two weeks later on Prime Time, Tornado and Tatanka are in the ring with Commissioner Graham who says he has no choice but to fire Tornado for breaking his contract stipulation about not being allowed to fight Funk after SNME: Vengeance. Funk comes out to gloat which causes Graham to change his mind and "let it slide just this once." Funk is beside himself.
While Tatanka is ringside with Tornado during the Royal Rumble match, he's attacked by Funk. Tatanka holds back at first but finally fights back, besting Funk to a massive roar from the crowd.
Funk challenges Tatanka to a match at February's SNME but Tornado says Tatanka isn't ready as his training isn't complete. Tatanka disagrees, finally breaking his silence since joining the WWF.
Commissioner Graham says Tatanka may think he's ready to face Funk but he'll take the word of the veteran Tornado that he isn't and not put a potentially under-trained wrestler in danger by signing a match with a deranged veteran like Funk. However, he's also got a feeling that Tatanka may be more ready than Tornado thinks otherwise he wouldn't be so insistent. Therefore, Graham will sign Funk vs. Tatanka for Wrestlemania 8 if Tatanka can prove himself before then against some non-Funk level competition. So, Graham's lined up a series of 4 "tryout" matches for Tatanka starting at February's SNME vs. Finlay, with one to follow each of the following 3 weeks on Prime Time. If Graham feels Tatanka is ready after these matches he'll give the go-ahead for Wrestlemania.
Tatanka wins all 4 "tryout" matches, beating Finlay at SNME, and Cpl. Parker, Greg Valentine, and Buddy Landel on the 3 Prime Time's that followed. Graham declares he's seen enough, and Funk vs. Tatanka is on for Wrestlemania. Tornado still isn't convinced since Funk's a completely different animal than the other guys Tatanka has faced, but Graham says the decision is final. A happy Funk interrupts and goes face to face with Tatanka, poking him in the chest and calling him derogatory names trying to pick a fight. Why? Well, Terry Funk is crazy! Tatanka attacks but Funk pulls out a foreign object and knocks Tatanka out and rolls him out of the ring. Tornado seems about to attack but Graham holds him back while calling for security. Funk pulls up the ringside mats and is about to piledrive Tatanka on the exposed floor but security and officials break it up just in time.
Tatanka defeats Funk at Wrestlemania and when Tornado tries to congratulate him after the match Tatanka attacks him. Funk recovers and applauds Tatanka only to be attacked as well.
Tatanka will go on to be a "tweener" from here, fighting both faces and heels, and probably Tornado at Summerslam. Maybe before though, as I hadn't written that far ahead for either character. Tatanka says that although he already thought it to be the case based on how his ancestors were treated, Tornado not being willing to sacrifice himself for his friend's well-being confirmed that Tatanka can't trust anyone.
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So, that's most of my plans for January through Wrestlemania 8 and in some cases vaguely through Summerslam. The only things I really left out were a side-feud where Owen Hart was still trying to get revenge on Flair's guys for injuring Jim Neidhart, culminating in a Wrestlemania 8 match with Vader, and a few minor feuds on my "B" shows.
Thanks again to everyone who read, commented, and predicted in this dynasty! Hopefully, I'll see you all in my new dynasty thread when I get it going.
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Sorry to see this end but fully understand where you're coming from. I'd be interested in hearing what you had planned and look forwards to following your new diary when your readyLooking forward to the new idea!Sorry to see this end, but the reasoning is understandable. Considering how well this dynasty was however, I am looking forward for your future project and I am sure it will be an enjoyable read like this one. Thank you for the hard work you put into this dynasty and looking forward to your future works.Would definitely love to see what else you had planned and would love to see how you book WCW.Count me in with those sad to see this end but happy to see the new idea in action.I would like to hear where you were going with things
Thanks for the kind words and encouragement, everyone!
And since there was sufficient interest in seeing what I had planned through WM8, I'll try to get a semi-detailed rundown of those plans posted later today or tomorrow.
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Thank you! These are all great! I've been thinking of doing the CWN one and having it as part of the CW network with CWFH, UWN etc.
Sounds like a plan!
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What would be a good name for a company based in New Jersey? I've been meaning to start a save with my own custom promotion but I keep gettig hung up on the name.
Garden State Championship Wrestling - GSCW
Garden State Wrestling - GSW
Championship Wrestling from Newark - CWN
Jersey City Wrestling - JCW
Atlantic City Wrestling - ACW
Boardwalk Championship Wrestling - BCW
New Jersey Wrestling Federation - NJWF
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Dynasty Update
I'm sorry to say that after much deliberation I've decided to end this dynasty. There's a multitude of reasons why, but there are two reasons that stand out above the others.
1.) I've signed practically every decent worker available either for my main roster or developmental company, leaving WCW with nothing but the scraps and my castoffs to build a roster with. This leads to wretched cards from my main competition like the Starrcade card I posted a few posts back. Just go back and take a look at it if you didn't see it before. I mean, Steve Disalvo? Keith Hart? Mike Shaw? Rip Rogers? Moondog Rex? Samoan Savage? A 48! year old Harley Race? It's just so bad and it makes the game world outside my own company very dull.
2.) Due in part to point number 1, I now have a strong urge to do a dynasty where I control both WWF and WCW. I thought about just adding a second user character to this save in the editor and taking over WCW that way, but with the state of their roster and with the overwhelming amount of big-name talent I already have locked up to long-term deals, I just think it's best if I start with a clean slate.
So that's what I'm going to do. There's obviously a lot of details to be ironed out, like deciding which company gets to sign which free agents and things of that nature, but I've got some ideas that I think will work.
It might be a bit before I get the new dynasty going, but I hope everyone will give it a chance considering this is the third or fourth time I've stopped a dynasty before finishing it. I'm certainly not the first to have that problem in the forums, and I'm certainly not on the top 10 list for most abandoned dynasties, but I prefer to finish what I start if possible. Ultimately though, dynasties are for fun and if I think controlling both companies in a fresh save will be the most fun, I'm gonna run with that. Maybe someone will follow along or maybe not. And if it comes to the point where I'm just talking to myself, I'll just have to take a shower, hit the weights, and get a clue!
P.S. . If there's enough interest I'd be willing to write out a semi-detailed summary of my plans through Wrestlemania 8 for this dynasty, which is how far ahead I've already written. I also had some very loose plans for the run-up to Summerslam '92 that I could share. Anyway, just let me know if that's something you guys would like to see. Thanks very much to everyone for reading, predicting, and commenting!
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WWF TV for Week 4, December 1991
Backstage before the show:
- Sensational Sherri has returned from rehab. Not 100% sure what I'll do with her just yet.
Monday, December 23rd, 1991
Great Western Forum in Inglewood, CA
15,128 in attendance
TV Rating: 2.18
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Monsoon and Heenan open the show with multiple announcements relating to SNME: Fade To Black. First, following the aftermath of Prime Time's main event last week, Commissioner Graham has changed Bam Bam Bigelow's match with Earthquake into a tag team match where it will be Bigelow teaming with Hulk Hogan to take on The Natural Disasters.
Also, it's announced that the Money Inc. vs. Hawk & "Dr. Death" Steve Williams match will actually be non-title after Ted DiBiase's lawyers successfully argued in court that Hawk and Williams can't be rewarded for assaulting Money Inc.
However, Commissioner Graham says he's well within his rights to say that if Hawk and Williams win at SNME they WILL get a title shot at Royal Rumble. And finally, they announce tonight's main event, as Wrestlemania 1 tag team partners collide when "Rowdy" Roddy Piper faces Paul Orndorff!
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Sid defeated Dennis Allen in 3:18 by pinfall with a Powerbomb.
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Missy Hyatt interviews The Texas Tornado and Tatanka next. Tornado apologizes to Tatanka for him being targeted by Terry Funk when it's not his fight.
But he says he'll find some way to make things right even if he can't directly fight Funk. Tatanka has no response.
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w/The Texas Tornado defeated Tim Storm in 4:17 by submission with an Iron Claw.
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The unlikely pairing of American patriot Sgt. Slaughter and "The Russian Nightmare" Nikita Koloff, address Koloff's former ally, the Intercontinental Champion Scott Norton.
Slaughter: ATTEN-HUT! Scott Norton! Or Dmitri! Or whatever you wanna call yourself! I'll just call you MAGGOT! Russian or no Russian, YOU NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON YOUR ALLIES! What you did at Survivor Series was despicable! AND FOR THAT, NOT FOR THE GLORY OF THE INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP, I'M GONNA MAKE YOU PAY! AND THAT'S AN ORRRDERRR!!!
Koloff: WIN OR LOSE THIS SATURDAY, NORTON. Title or no title. YOU'RE MINE AT ROYAL RUMBLE!
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Scott Norton defeated Frank Andersson in 3:35 by pinfall with a Brainbuster.
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"Mean" Gene Okerlund is in the event center, where three more matches are announced for SNME: Fade To Black.
Okerlund: The Ultimate Warrior's friends will get a chance for a little revenge on The Army of Darkness with this trio of matches, just signed by Commissioner Billy Graham. The Undertaker, with Paul Bearer in his corner, will go one on one with the big Hawaiian Crush.
Okerlund: In addition, The British Bulldog will face off against the head recruiter for The Army of Darkness, Kevin Sullivan.
Okerlund: And finally, making his World Wrestling Federation debut, the man called Sting, will do battle with Smash!
Okerlund: And for those wondering why Sting isn't facing Cactus Jack instead of Smash, well that's simple.
Okerlund: As punishment for his attack on the Commissioner last week, Cactus Jack has been suspended INDEFINITELY!
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w/2 Fly defeated Well Dunn in 11:27 when 2 Cold Scorpio pinned Steven Dunn with a Scorpio Splash.
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Jake Roberts with words for Vader before their final showdown at SNME: Fade To Black this Saturday.
Roberts: You know, Vader, somebody asked me one time, "how old are you, snake?" Old enough to know better? No, I still make mistakes, but I go out there and shoot for it every single day, man. And when you're pullin' the trigger each and every day, you're bound to make a few mistakes. But I've lived through 'em. The question is, big man, can you live through your mistake? Your mistake of comin' at Jake Roberts? No, because that I can respect. Any man's gotta put his name out there if he wants to make a name for himself. No, the mistake you made was comin' after Damien! Literally, a member of my family, held as near and dear to my heart as most people's children! You WON'T live through that mistake! Trust me!
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In a bout that had fantastic heat and great wrestling, Jake Roberts defeated Greg Valentine in 10:06 by pinfall with The DDT.
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"Rowdy" Roddy Piper suggests "The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels put his money where his mouth is and prove he isn't afraid of "The Hot Rod". All he's gotta do is agree to speak to Piper face to face during a special episode of Piper's Pit this Saturday at SNME: Fade To Black.
Piper: Just do that and you'll shut me up! And isn't that what everyone wants? TO SHUT MY BIG MOUTH ONCE AND FOR ALL!? I'll be there, Shawn! Will you?
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With Orndorff in control late in the match, Mr. Perfect rushes toward the ring with a steel chair in hand.
Before he can get there though, his father Larry trips while following him down the aisle. Hearing the crowd react to this, Perfect goes back to check on him. Orndorff also reacts to the commotion rushing out to attack Perfect from behind. They do battle in the aisle way with Orndorff getting control of the chair and whacking Perfect with it. By this point the referee has counted Orndorff out, awarding the match to Piper at 15:58. It appears Orndorff is about to strike Larry with the chair too, but Piper climbs out of the ring and scares him off.
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Ric Flair and company end Prime Time with some final words for their SNME: Fade To Black opponents.
First up, Larry Zbyszko addresses Owen Hart.
Zbyszko: Owen Hart, revenge is man's man's game and your just a little boy, in over your head! And I'm gonna prove it when I twist you into a pretzel at Saturday Night's Main Event!
Next, a fired-up Vader doesn't beat around the bush when it comes to Jake Roberts.
Vader: JAKE ROBERTS! You talk a big game, but when it comes time to prove it, YOU NEVER GOT NOTHIN! At Saturday Night's Main Event, IT'S TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP! And that mean's it's my time. Not yours. That mean's, IT'S VADER TIME!
Finally, Ric Flair pulls no punches, guaranteeing he'll win the WWF Championship at SNME: Fade To Black!
Flair: NOT MANY THINGS IN THIS WORLD ARE GUARANTEED! BUT, I'm gonna make you two guarantees for this Saturday Night, Savage! NUMBER ONE! I GUARANTEE, that I walk out of the Cow Palace, the new World Wrestling Federation Heavyweight Champion of the world! NUMBER TWO! I GUARANTEE, that when I add the finishing touch to my master plan, Randy Savage will NEVER BE, THE SAME AGAIN! WOOOOOOOOO!!
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Show Rating:
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Post-show notes:
- Nothing to report.
Top 5 in-ring performances of the night:
Roddy Piper - 91
Jake Roberts - 89
Sid - 88
Paul Orndorff - 85
Texas Tornado - 78
The Next Day:
- Crush tested positive for steroids again. I think that's the second time since I instituted the medium drug testing policy in November. I forgot to check his disciplinary log to be sure. I fined him and nothing noteworthy resulted, but I think I'll suspend him for a month if(likely when) he tests positive again.
- Sid doesn't think Mike Alfonso(Awesome) connects with the fans and is a waste of time.
Backstage before the show:- This is a special Thursday edition of Wrestling Challenge since Christmas fell on a Wednesday in 1991.
- Al Snow picked up a nagging injury a few weeks back that will affect him for over a year. Since I'd already backed off on the mini-push I was giving him back around Summerslam, I decided to send him on paid vacation until he's fully healed.
Thursday, December 26th, 1991
San Bernardino Armory in San Bernardino, CA
1,000 in attendance - SOLD OUT!
TV Rating: 0.19
Angle: Prime Time Wrestling recap with McMahon and Heenan.
Rating: 95
2 Fly defeated The State Patrol in 10:03 when 2 Cold Scorpio pinned Lt. Wright with a Scorpio Splash.
Rating: 57
Angle: The Genius and Sir Dave Taylor cut a promo saying Taylor will only defend his Television Championship against the best of the best.
The Genius: And when you're talking about the best of the best, obviously one of the first names to come to mind is Duane Gill!
Rating: 59
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WWF World Television Championship
w/"Sir" Dave Taylor w/ The Genius© vs. Duane Gill
Dave Taylor squashed Duane Gill in 3:45 by pinfall with a Bridging Fallaway Slam. Dave Taylor makes defense number one of the WWF World Television title.
Rating: 71
Bull Nakano defeated Heidi Lee Morgan in 7:29 by pinfall with a Guillotine Leg Drop.
Rating: 55
Angle: Nakano is joined by The Ripper, and it appears they had the same plans for Morgan as Reggie Bennett last week. Madusa saved her from that fate though, scaring Nakano and The Ripper away with a steel chair.
Rating: 95
Steve Williams warms up for SNME: Fade To Black, defeating Greg Valentine in the main event with a Backdrop Driver in 9:40.
Rating: 61
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Show Rating: 71
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Post-show notes:
- Nothing to report.
The Next Day:
- WCW signed Buddy Rose and Nailz.
Backstage before the show:
- Nothing to report.
Friday, December 27th, 1991
Van Nuys Armory in Van Nuys, CA
1,000 in attendance - SOLD OUT!
TV Rating: 0.44
2 Fly defeated Larry Stephens and Neil Superior in 6:23 when 2 Cold Scorpio pinned Stephens with a Scorpio Splash.
Rating: 46
Angle: A generic 2 Cold Scorpio promo post-match.
Rating: 29
Irwin R. Schyster defeated David Walby in 6:04 by pinfall with a Samoan Drop.
Rating: 56
Angle: A generic Owen Hart promo.
Rating: 89
Kevin Von Erich defeated Glen Osbourne in 7:14 by submission with The Iron Claw.
Rating: 53
Heidi Lee Morgan defeated Denise Storm in 7:02 by submission.
Rating: 25
Angle: Brian Pillman promo on The Lumberjack.
Rating: 93
Brian Pillman defeated The Lumberjack in 9:32 by pinfall with an Enzuigiri.
Rating: 79
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Show Rating: 75
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Post-show notes:
- That was a higher than expected grade for Pillman and The Lumberjack.
The Next Day:
- Jobber Neil Superior tested positive for Hard Drugs. He needs to eat too, so he gets the same treatment as the stars. That's strikes 1 & 2.
- I was going to post the results of Smoky Mountain Wrestling's inaugural event, Christmas Chaos, but the card was so weak in talent and poor in results that it isn't worth typing out.
Saturday, December 28th, 1991
From The Cow Palace in San Francisco, California
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WWF World Heavyweight Championship
Randy Savage w/ Elizabeth © vs. "Nature Boy" Ric Flair
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WWF Intercontinental Championship
"The Minnesota Wrecking Machine" Scott Norton © vs. Sgt. Slaughter
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WWF Women's Championship
Madusa © vs. Bull Nakano w/ The Fabulous Moolah & The Ripper
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WWF Tag Team title shot on the line
Money Inc. w/ Sid vs. Hawk & "Dr. Death" Steve Wiliams
**If Hawk and Williams win they'll get a shot at Money Inc.'s WWF Tag Team Championship at Royal Rumble.**
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Super Grudge Match
Jake "The Snake" Roberts vs. Vader
**All of Vader's friends(Flair, Rude, Zbyszko) and Owen and Bret Hart are banned from ringside.**
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Tag Team Match
Hulk Hogan & Bam Bam Bigelow vs. The Natural Disasters w/ Jimmy Hart
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You Don't Mess With Family
Mr. Perfect w/ Larry Hennig vs. Paul Orndorff
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For The Warrior
The Undertaker w/ Paul Bearer vs. Crush
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Sting's WWF In-Ring Debut / For The Warrior
Smash w/ Paul Bearer vs. Sting
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For The Warrior
Kevin Sullivan w/ Paul Bearer vs. The British Bulldog
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Grudge Match
Owen Hart w/ Bret Hart vs. Larry Zbyszko w/ Rick Rude
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Bonus Question
Match of the night?
Answer:
Condensed predictions card for those with no comments:
Randy Savage w/ Elizabeth © vs. "Nature Boy" Ric Flair
"The Minnesota Wrecking Machine" Scott Norton © vs. Sgt. Slaughter
Madusa © vs. Bull Nakano w/ The Fabulous Moolah & The Ripper
Money Inc. w/ Sid vs. Hawk & "Dr. Death" Steve Wiliams
Jake "The Snake" Roberts vs. Vader
Hulk Hogan & Bam Bam Bigelow vs. The Natural Disasters w/ Jimmy Hart
Mr. Perfect w/ Larry Hennig vs. Paul Orndorff
The Undertaker w/ Paul Bearer vs. Crush
Smash w/ Paul Bearer vs. Sting
Kevin Sullivan w/ Paul Bearer vs. The British Bulldog
Owen Hart w/ Bret Hart vs. Larry Zbyszko w/ Rick Rude
Match of the night?
NOTE: This is the first show in a new round of the prediction contest that runs through Wrestlemania 8 so everyone has a clean slate.
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WWF Saturday Night's Main Event: Fade To Black Predictions Card:
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WWF TV for Week 3, December 1991
Backstage before the show:
- WCW held Starrcade yesterday and I thought I would share the card:
WCW STARRCADE 1991
"Double Feature" Tim Horner and Keith Hart defeated "The Royal Family" Jack Victory and Rip Morgan. 57
"The Scooby Gang" Moondog Rex & Steve DiSalvo defeated Samoan Savage and Steve Armstrong to retain the WCW World Tag Team Titles. 59
Harley Race defeated Dutch Mantel by DQ. 56
Jimmy Garvin and Doom defeated Dustin Rhodes, Mike Shaw, & Rip Rogers. 67
Jim Duggan defeated Tommy Rich. 64
Barry Windham & Honky Tonk Man defeated Junkyard Dog and Marty Jannetty in a Strap match. 76
King Kong Bundy defeated Bobby Eaton for the WCW World Television title. 75
The Ultimate Solution(Jeep Swenson) defeated Road Warrior Animal in a Dog Collar match. 79
Lex Luger defeated Arn Anderson to retain the WCW United States Heavyweight title. 89
Show Rating: 77
*WCW World Heavyweight Champion Stan Hansen wasn't booked because he had a scheduling conflict with his main employer, AJPW. On the night of Starrcade he wrestled for them in a tag team match where he teamed up with Abdullah The Butcher to defeat Mighty Inoue and Tsuyoshi Kikuchi.
- Also in WCW news, rumors are they're about to start a new stable called "The Flood" with the members being King Kong Bundy, Harley Race, Honky Tonk Man, and Vincent(Virgil).
- In SMW news, Paul Ellering has been named their new head booker with their Christmas Chaos event scheduled for next Friday. Their roster's looking a bit rough so far though with workers of note including Jimmy Valiant, Bill Dundee, Johnny Rotten, Doug Somers, Randy Rose, Glenn Gilbertti(Disco Inferno), Super Nova, Jerry Flynn, and Ron Harris. I always loved SMW and considered doing a dynasty with them before I restarted this one, so I'm very interested in seeing how they do under AI control. Considering the poor quality of most of WCW's Starrcade card, I'd bet it won't be pretty.
- The Dragon has offered to put over Owen Hart. The offer is good for 2 matches and expires in 5 months.
Monday, December 16th, 1991
Tuscon Convention Center in Tucson, AZ
9,000 in attendance - SOLD OUT!
TV Rating: 2.15
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We open the show with an introduction from Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby "The Brain" Heenan, who announce a special live satellite interview with Miss Elizabeth that will be coming up later tonight.
They also announce that Commissioner Graham has found an opponent for Bam Bam Bigelow for Saturday Night's Main Event: Fade To Black, as he'll be taking on one half of the Natural Disasters, Earthquake.
They also announce tonight's main event, as the other half of the Natural Disasters, Typhoon, will do battle with Hulk Hogan!
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w/Money Inc. defeated Mike Barton and Duane Gill in 6:27 when Barton and Gill were disqualified when Hawk ran in and attacked Irwin R. Schyster.
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DiBiase tries to help I.R.S. but Hawk easily overpowers both to a huge pop. Sid poops on Hawk's party though, attacking from behind and clubbing him to the mat with multiple forearm shots across the back. A Big Boot on an Irish Whip rebound follows as Sid taunts the crowd that it's time for the Powerbomb. He picks Hawk up from the mat and sets up for the move, only to be drilled in the back with a steel chair by Steve Williams!
DiBiase and I.R.S. had left the ring by this point, so there was no one to save Sid from yet another chair shot as Williams levels him again, knocking him between the ropes to the outside as the fans go wild.
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The British Bulldog defeated The Equalizer in 6:21 by pinfall with a Running Powerslam.
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In a pre-recorded message, Commissioner Graham says that although he understands Bret and Owen Hart's point of view in regards to avenging an injured family member, in this case, Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart, he still believes that Roberts' claim for vengeance against Vader is stronger.
Therefore, he has signed a match for Saturday Night's Main Event: Fade To Black, pitting Jake "The Snake" Roberts against Vader. He expects things to be settled once and for all this time too, as he's banned all of Vader's friends AND both Bret and Owen Hart from ringside!
Finally, he announces another match for Saturday Night's Main Event, as Owen Hart will take on Larry Zbyszko.
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Owen Hart defeated Glen Osbourne in 6:21 by submission with a Sharpshooter.
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Paul Orndorff cuts a promo, where he amps up his threats toward Mr. Perfect's father/manager Larry Hennig even more.
Orndorff: So, you're gonna put me outta you and your little daddy's misery, huh, Perfect? Well, I know a little somethin' about misery because I've inflicted more than my fair share of it in my career. And when I'm done grindin' you into the canvas at Saturday Night's Main Event, Perfect, "dear old dad" is gonna get a little first-hand experience of just what kind of misery I'm capable of dishing out. I'm sure that's not what you wanna hear, Perfect, but it's the truth. And the truth hurts! And at Saturday Night's Main Event, so will you, Larry!
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w/Mr. Perfect defeated Tony Stetson in 5:46 by pinfall with a Perfect Plex.
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In his debut match in the WWF, Cactus Jack defeated Tito Santana in 10:38 by pinfall with a Pulling Piledriver.
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Cactus went back on the attack after the bell, tossing Santana to the outside and then delivering a running elbow drop off the ring apron to the floor. He still wasn't done though, as he pulled the ringside mats back and prepared to deliver another Piledriver to Santana, this time on the exposed concrete. WWF officials tried to stop the attack to no avail, but Sting had a little more luck!
The Stinger attacks Cactus in a fury, whipping him into the steel barrier and then clotheslining him into the front row. Sting hops the barrier as well, and the two men begin to brawl through the crowd. After multiple fans were inadvertently knocked down by either Sting or Cactus, Commissioner Graham had seen enough and he rushed onto the scene himself to help officials break them up.
After Cactus momentarily got the best of Sting with a Body Slam on the concrete floor, Graham planted himself in front of the fallen Sting, ordering Cactus to back off. Cactus had other ideas, leveling the Commissioner with a hard right hand and then kicking him multiple times after he was down. As crazy as Cactus is, it was obvious even he knew he'd went too far by attacking the Commissioner, so he made himself scarce as Graham was tended to by Sting and some WWF officials.
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w/Dave Taylor defeated Dino Bravo in 9:57 by pinfall with a Bridging Fallaway Slam.
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It was now time for the special interview with Miss Elizabeth, live via satellite. Before Monsoon and Heenan got a chance to start though, Gorilla Monsoon announces he's just been handed a note.
Monsoon: Brain, before we get to our interview with Elizabeth, we've just received a note from Commissioner Graham's office. First of all, he wants everyone to know that he's fine following his attack at the hands of Cactus Jack earlier tonight, and that Cactus will be punished for his actions. Also, he's just signed a World Wrestling Federation Tag Team title match for Saturday Night's Main Event, as Money Inc. will defend against Hawk and "Dr. Death" Steve Williams!
Heenan: That's great, Monsoon, but can we get on with this interview? I can't wait to hear what kind of sob story Liz has cooked up!
Monsoon: ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? What happened at Survivor Series was a travesty and Elizabeth has every right to.....You know what? Get outta here and don't come back tonight! You don't deserve to speak to someone as lovely and kind as Miss Elizabeth!
Heenan: Excuse me?
Monsoon: You heard me!
Heenan: Now, wait just a minute!
At this point, Gorilla stands up from his chair and Heenan knows he means business so he backs down and does indeed leave.
Monsoon: Are we ready?......Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I'm happy to be joined at this time, live via satellite by Miss Elizabeth!
Monsoon: Elizabeth, are you doing okay?
Elizabeth: I've been better, Gorilla, but yes, I'm doing okay right now.
Monsoon: And what about Randy Savage, have you heard from him since this all went down?
Elizabeth: Actually, Gorilla, despite everything that went on at Survivor Series, it ultimately was the best thing that could have happened. Randy and I are back together because he finally proved what I just couldn't be convinced of before.
Monsoon: Which was?
Elizabeth: That I'm more important than him being the champion, or king, or whatever he's been calling himself.
Monsoon: That's great news!
Elizabeth: Thanks, Gorilla!
Monsoon: Is Randy there with you, by chance?
Elizabeth: He is, but I couldn't convince him to speak on the air. I've never seen him this upset. Or determined. But it's not jealousy this time like we've had problems with in the past. It's about love and setting things right!
Monsoon: Are you absolutely sure he won't speak with me?
Elizabeth: I'm sure, Gorilla!
Monsoon: Well then,....
Savage suddenly bursts into frame, telling Elizabeth that he's got it from here. She reluctantly agrees to leave as Savage addresses Ric Flair.
His voice is trembling as he starts to speak.
Savage: The shades are off, Ric Flair, and I want you to look right into my eyes.
Savage rips the sunglasses he's wearing off, breaks them, and tosses them aside.
Savage: "The Macho King" Randy Savage is NO MORE. Long live the King? Oh, no no no. Because the Macho King is DEAD, and only The Madness remains, yeah! So look into these eyes, Ric Flair, and understand this, yeah. If you thought Randy Savage was unhinged. IF YOU THOUGHT RANDY SAVAGE WAS A LUNATIC! Then you ain't seen nothin' yet. Because The Madness will not rest. HE WILL NOT STOP, until Ric Flair is not only gone from the World Wrestling Federation, but he won't stop, until Ric Flair is wiped from existence. OOOOOOHHH YEAAAAHHHH!!!
Savage stands up and violently shoves the cameraman down before storming off.
Monsoon: Ladies and gentlemen, I would not want to be in Ric Flair's shoes next weekend in the Cow Palace! Whew! We'll be right back with our main event!
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w/This match ended pretty much like you'd expect, with Earthquake attacking Hogan once it was obvious Typhoon couldn't get the job done. Hogan wins by disqualification in 9:43.
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Though Hogan didn't have too much trouble with Typhoon alone, both of The Natural Disasters at once were just overwhelming. A double Avalanche in the corner proceeded a Tidal Wave Splash by Typhoon with an Earthquake Splash about to follow that.
Bam Bam Bigelow turned the tide though, sprinting to the ring and pulling the top rope down as Earthquake ran the ropes, causing him to tumble to the outside. Typhoon quickly exited the ring and ran at Bigelow, who floored him with a Clothesline. Jimmy Hart then tried to hit Bigelow with his megaphone, but Bigelow caught him and took it to use as a weapon himself, snatching it just in time to clock his now recovered Saturday Night's Main Event opponent, Earthquake, with it. With Earthquake down and out and Bigelow now armed, Typhoon and Hart hit the bricks as Bigelow checks on Hogan and Prime Time comes to a close.
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Show Rating:
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Post-show notes:
- The Hogan/Typhoon match suffered from a lack of selling. No kidding!
- Tito Santana was complaining about losing to Cactus Jack until he saw Cactus glaring at him and cracking his knuckles. Imagining this cracks me up for some reason.
Top 5 in-ring performances of the night:
Hulk Hogan - 97
Ted DiBiase - 94
Mr. Perfect - 92
Owen Hart - 79
The British Bulldog - 73
The Next Day:
- AJPW extended contract offers to Well Dunn, offering them a combined salary of nearly $29,000 per month over 2 and 3 years respectively. While they do have decent in-ring skills for training purposes, I was basically just using them for a "name" jobber tag team so I'm gonna let them go at that price.
- Jim Cornette is clique building, forging an alliance with Kevin Sullivan and Brian Pillman.
- WCW increased its production values to majestic.
Backstage before the show:
- Bull Nakano's behavior improved after being sent to "Wrestler's Court" where Hulk Hogan punished her for being late to pick up her travel partner. I generally don't bother with mentioning these because they're so uninteresting and unvaried, but I thought this particular pairing was hilarious to think of in this context.
Wednesday, December 18th, 1991
Santa Monica Civic Center in Santa Monica, CA
2,000 in attendance - SOLD OUT!
TV Rating: 0.23
Angle: A Recap of Monday's Prime Time with McMahon and Heenan.
Rating: 95
Smash defeated Duane Gill in 5:31 by pinfall.
Rating: 71
Shane Douglas defeated Mike Alfonso in 6:09 by pinfall with The Pittsburgh Plunge.
Rating:
Just as she said she would at Saturday Night's Main Event next week, Madusa outsmarted an interfering Bull Nakano, causing her to strike Madusa's opponent Reggie Bennett instead. A quick Bridging German Suplex would follow to give Madusa the victory at 9:40.
Rating: 63
Angle: Nakano charges into the ring to attack Madusa, followed closely by The Ripper. They whip Madusa into the ropes to deliver a double team move, but Madusa wisely does a Baseball Slide under the bottom rope to escape and heads for the locker room. Unfortunately for Reggie Bennett, Nakano and The Ripper would take their frustrations out on her instead, flattening her with a Powerbomb/Middle Rope splash combo to send us to commercial.
Rating: 71
Angle: Accompanied by his manager, The Genius, Dave Taylor is in the ring when we come back from the commercial break. Taylor begins to speak, but The Genius insists he does the talking for now. The Genius calls Hayes' win over Taylor early last month a fluke and declares that if given the opportunity here tonight, Taylor guarantees he will end Hayes' Television Championship reign. Of course, The Genius knows that Hayes doesn't have the guts to put the title on the line against an opponent the caliber of Taylor, since he's only one victory away from either a cash reward or an IC or Tag title shot. Since he knows Hayes won't go for it, he might as well read the poem he prepared, and then he and Taylor will be on their way.
The Genius: Everyone knows that I am The Genius
The world's smartest man, and a proficient linguist
But what are you Hayes, besides very dumb?
And that language you speak, is it even English?
But all that aside, it's easy to tell
That you fear Sir Dave Taylor, who is your superior as well!
This draws out an angry Hayes, who hastily accepts the challenge by tossing his title to a ring attendant and shouting for the timekeeper to ring the bell.
Rating: 69
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WWF World Television Championship
w/Michael P.S. Hayes © vs. Dave Taylor w/ The Genius
In a bout that had good heat and decent wrestling, Dave Taylor defeated Michael Hayes in 9:57 by pinfall with a Bridging Fallaway Slam to win the WWF World Television title.
Rating: 72
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Show Rating: 77
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Post-show notes:
- Nothing to report.
The Next Day:
- WCW increased its Production values to "Industry Leader".
Backstage before the show:
- Nothing to report.
Friday, December 20th, 1991
Pacific Sports Center in Vallejo, CA
1,000 in attendance - SOLD OUT!
TV Rating: 0.14
Buddy Landel defeated Larry Stephens in 5:51 by pinfall with a Figure Four Leglock.
Rating:
Angle: A generic Cactus Jack promo.
Rating: 45
Angle: A generic Shane Douglas promo.
Rating: 66
Angle: A generic Nikita Koloff promo.
Rating: 81
Skinner defeated Joe Cruz in 6:30 by pinfall with a Gatorbreaker.
Rating: 47
Angle: A generic Madusa promo.
Rating: 65
The Lumberjack defeated Neil Superior in 6:30 by pinfall with a Northern Exposure.
Rating: 58
The Rock 'n' Roll Express defeated Well Dunn in 9:54 when Robert Gibson pinned Dunn with a Double dropkick.
Rating: 53
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Show Rating: 63
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Post-show notes:
- Nothing to report.
The Next Day:
- The American economy's strong recovery has continued and now appears poised to move in to 1992 on a strong note. Wrestling promoters throughout the country are excited about what this economic recovery might mean for the fortunes of the business in 1992.
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What happened to dynasties?
in Total Extreme Wrestling 2020 General Discussions
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Thanks!
I say go for it, despite the similar dynasties. I've never been much of a dynasty reader myself since I prefer to avoid letting other writers' ideas and storylines influence my own, but if I were, I would have no problem reading and enjoying multiple dynasties from the same period.