SWF: Generation Supreme

[Liamo]

That was one hell of a PPV :D The Heartbreakers vs [b]The Immortal Bumfholes[/b] Robbie Retro vs [b]Marc DuBois[/b] Last Chance vs Black Label Fight Club vs [b]The New Wave[/b] [b]Giedroyc[/b] vs Joss Thompson Casey Valentine vs [b]Chris Morrisette[/b] Antonio Marquez vs [b]Rich Money[/b]

[FINisher]

[B]The Heartbreakers[/B] vs The Immortal Bumfholes [I]I hate Bumfholes.[/I] Robbie Retro vs [B]Marc DuBois[/B] [B]Last Chance[/B] vs Black Label Fight Club vs The New Wave [B]Giedroyc[/B] vs Joss Thompson [B]Casey Valentine[/B] vs Chris Morrisette Gino Montero or Antonio Marquez vs [B]Rich Money[/B] for the SWF World Heavyweight Championship

[Phantom Stranger]

The Heartbreakers vs [B]The Immortal Bumfholes[/B] Robbie Retro vs [B]Marc DuBois[/B] [B]Last Chance[/B] vs Black Label Fight Club vs The New Wave [B]Giedroyc[/B] vs Joss Thompson Casey Valentine vs [B]Chris Morrisette[/B] Surprise Match -[B] Guess it if you Want[/B] Gino Montero or Antonio Marquez vs [B]Rich Money[/B] for the SWF World Heavyweight Championship

[Tigerkinney]

The Heartbreakers vs [B]The Immortal Bumfholes[/B] [I]Bumfholes may lost their opportunity to challenge for the World Title but they wont be losing to a jobber team like the Heartbreakers.[/I] Robbie Retro vs [B]Marc DuBois[/B] [I]Sorry to pull you up on this but in the preview you said that DuBois was the North American champion, I thought he'd lost that to Marquez at the PPV. He will get back on the winning track here though[/I] Last Chance vs Black Label Fight Club vs [B]The New Wave[/B] [I]The other two team fail to prove they are worthy of a title shot by falling to the recent challengers.[/I] [B]Giedroyc [/B]vs Joss Thompson [I]Whilst Deeley has started to break out in singles competiton, his tag partner is floundering in jobbersville.[/I] Casey Valentine vs [B]Chris Morrisette[/B] [I]Glorified squash[/I] Gino Montero or Antonio Marquez vs [B]Rich Money[/B] [I]Either of the Mexicans aren't at the level yet to dethrone Money[/I].

[Bigpapa42]

[QUOTE=Tigerkinney;635907][I]Sorry to pull you up on this but in the preview you said that DuBois was the North American champion, I thought he'd lost that to Marquez at the PPV. He will get back on the winning track here though[/I] [I]Either of the Mexicans aren't at the level yet to dethrone Money[/I].[/QUOTE] Yeah, it was supposed to be "former North American champion". Thanks for the catch and corrected. Serves me right for getting something posted right before bed. And you are correct that the Diablos are not quite to the level of Rich Money yet. But Marquez isn't far off. Looking over this show, I realized a couple of things. One, the matches aren't exactly horribly difficult to predict. Two, this show is really more about the angles than the matches, which is actually a good thing - that's the idea with this brand. And three, I really need to start making better use of my midcard and lower workers on this brand. One more thing - the "Surprise Match" I listed is actually another match on the card, the secondary main event. Decided to do that instead of a ??? vs ??? thing again.

[Bigpapa42]

Should have the show posted sometime early tomorrow, so there is still a bit of time if anyone wants to get predictions in. I think this is going to be another fun show... but I guess I always feel that... And thanks Liamo...

[Bigpapa42]

[FONT=Arial][CENTER][SIZE=6]SWF Supreme TV[/SIZE] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Media/TV%20Shows/Banners/SWFSupremeTVBanner.jpg[/IMG] [B]Tuesday, Week 3, September 2008 The Dust Bowl (South East) - 14,594[/B] [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdaMvVzqvRA"][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Main/Other/Playegg_28207.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [SIZE=4]Announcers[/SIZE] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Staff/Small/PeterMichaelsSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Staff/Small/JerryEisenSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/Alt%20Small/RichMoneyalt8Small.jpg[/IMG] [B]Peter Michaels - Jerry Eisen - Rich Money[/B] ________________________________________[/CENTER] [B]Peter Michaels[/B]: Welcome to Supreme TV everyone. I'm Peter Michaels. Joining me tonight are Jerry Eisen and the SWF World Heavyweight champ... [B]Rich Money[/B]: Can it, Michaels. They know who I am. [B]Jerry Eisen[/B]: Uh, aren't you supposed to be in the ring, champ? [B]Rich Money[/B]: I'm everywhere, Jerry. Might as well call this Supreme Money TV. [quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/Signed%20Alt/SeanMcFlyalt5Small.jpg[/IMG] [B]Sean McFly In-Ring Segment[/B] [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu9xx5Ri278"][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Main/Other/Playegg_28207.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/CENTER] [I]The crowd explodes when McFly's familiar music hits. The pyrotechnics and smoke go off, with Sean McFly once again emerging through the Supreme Gate. The crowd noise hits bigger heights. The athlete is wearing his familiar casual outfit of jeans and a T-shirt, though with a sport jacket over top. He gives the crowd a genuine and appreciative smile before he moves down to the ring. The two-time SWF World Heavyweight champion grabs a microphone. It takes a long moment for the crowd to quiet enough that McFly can speak.[/I] [B]Sean McFly[/B]: Thank you, I feel the same way about you guys. [I]As McFly grins, the crowd roars again.[/I] [B]Sean McFly[/B]: Nearly a decade ago, I made the hardest choice of my career. I chose to leave the Supreme Wrestling Federation. I chose to leave all you fans for one reason – family. But when I walked out of this ring for the last time so long ago, I asked the lord above to give me that chance to come back here some day. And that day is here! [I]The crowd reacts huge. [/I] [B]Sean McFly[/B]: I can't tell you all how good it feels to be back here in Supreme. I can't put this into words. So I owe a huge debut of gratitude to the man who convinced me to come back here... Phil Vibert! [I]The crowd sounds their appreciation for Vibert, who isn't in attendance. [/I] [B]Sean McFly[/B]: I know this isn't the same Supreme Wrestling Federation as when I left. That was a generation ago. Now we've got guys here who were barely out of diapers when I won my first SWF World Heavyweight championship. I've made a career out of overcoming the odds and adapting. I'm just going to have to do that again. And with all behind me, I'll be champion again! [I]The crowd loves McFly, even if he isn't exactly an artist on the microphone. It takes awhile for McFly to clear out of ringside, as he plays to the crowd and glad-hands his way up the ramp. The fans simply love the man. [/I] [B][CENTER]Grade: A*[/CENTER] [/B][/quote][B]Rich Money[/B]: Someone remind me to send Vibert a big thank you card. [B]Peter Michaels[/B]: You don't seem so happy to see McFly back, champ. [B]Rich Money[/B]: “Happy” is so subjective to interpretation, Peter. [quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/StevenParkerSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/JayChordSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Main/VS2Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/RandyBumfholeSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/ZimmyBumfholeSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]The Heartbreakers vs The Immortal Bumfholes[/B][/CENTER] A solid opening match. Two of the best young tag teams in the SWF put on an entertaining match. The athletic Bumfhole brothers look impressive early with their athleticism and diverse skill. They are slowed by some cheating tactics by Parker and Chord, using double-teams and referee distractions to attack both brothers. Zimmy, often the weaker of the two brothers, gets isolated and worked over for a time, before he manages to tag his brother in. The Immortal Bumfhole's get the win after both brothers hit young Jay Chord with a Bumfhole in One frog splash, each from opposite corners. Zimmy then covers to get the win. [B][CENTER]Grade: B[/CENTER] [/B][/quote][B]Peter Michaels[/B]: So they Bumfhole brothers don't impress you at all, Money? [B]Rich Money[/B]: Sure they impress me. They're going to be good... some day... [quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/JossThompsonAltSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/ShooterSeanDeeleyAltSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Staff/Managers/JenNeptuneSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Staff/Managers/KathyNeptuneSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]Joss Thompson, Sean Deeley, Jen Neptune + Kathy Neptune Manager Interview Segment[/B][/CENTER] [I]The quartet are sitting in a cramped little room, what appears to be the storage room behind a concession booth in the arena. There are stacked boxes everywhere, which the foursome are seated on. [/I] [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: Uh, so why are we in a storage room. [B]Sean Deeley[/B]: No office for us to use. [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: So you two are from Idaho, right? [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: That's right. [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: So what's it like in Canada? [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: Uh, what? [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: Idaho, its a state in Canada, right? [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: No. [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: Its next to Washington. [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: The city? [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: The state. [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: There's a state, too? [B]Sean Deeley[/B]: Please, just stop before the hole gets too deep... [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: Well sorry, Sean, but not all of us went to college. Not all of us a got a higher education and got to learn all about American geometry. [B]Sean Deeley[/B]: Its geography. And I majored in geology. [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: Rocks for jocks! [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: Plus Canada doesn't have states. [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: Really? What do they have? [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: I think they have realms or something. [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: Fiefdoms, maybe? [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: Neat. [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: So why are we here? [B]Sean Deeley[/B]: I already said, we couldn't get... [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: No, I mean why did you two ask us here? [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: Because if this is a date, its like, the worst one ever. [B]Sean Deeley[/B]: Its an interview. [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: Oh, for a magazine. [B]Sean Deeley[/B]: No, for a job. [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: What job? [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: As our manager. Managers, if you to be numerically correct. See, Sean, I could've gone to college, too. [B]Sean Deeley[/B]: Right Joss. [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: You want us to be your manager..managers...? [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: We're considering the possibility of exploring that option. [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: Uh, okay. Why us? [B]Sean Deeley[/B]: That's the point of the interview. You have to convince us. [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: Why should we convince you? You should convince us that its worth our time to convince you. [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: How can we convince you when we're not convinced yet? [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: I'm convinced... I mean confused. [B]Sean Deeley[/B]: Thanks for your time, but this isn't going to work. [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: Fine, we already have a team to manage. [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: We do? [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: Well, we'll find one. [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: Wait, Sean, don't be hasty. [B]Sean Deeley[/B]: Why? We're wasting our time. They are interested. They don't know jack about wrestling. We need to be focusing on taking down some Supreme Legends. I want to finish off Morrisette. And we've got those tag belts to worry about. [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: But, dude... [B]Sean Deeley[/B]: But what? [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: But they're hot! [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: Aw, thanks! [I]Shaking his head, Deeley gets up and walks out. He has to shimmy past several stacks of boxes to get to the door. Giving the Neptune twins an apologetic shrug, Thompson follows his tag team partner. [/I] [B]Joss Thompson[/B]: Bye ladies. [I]The twins wait until they are alone.[/I] [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: So what should we name our team? [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: I was thinking Team Neptune. [B]Jen Neptune[/B]: Oh, I like. Who should we get to be on Team Neptune? [B]Kathy Neptune[/B]: I dunno. We'll figure that out. [B][CENTER]Grade: B-[/CENTER] [/B] [/quote][quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/MarcDuBoisAltSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Main/VS2Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/RobbieRetroSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]Marc DuBois vs Robbie Retro[/B][/CENTER] Another solid match. Retro is fighting against the odds here, facing not only the former North American champion but his stable-mates at ringside. So he not only has to deal with DuBois constantly trying to cheat, but Parker and Chord trying to help him. The fun-loving Robbie turns serious as he battles hard. Retro starts to overpower the smaller DuBois, and he has the crowd screaming as he does The Robot, just before he nails the former champion his Murder on the Dancefloor power bomb. Before Robbie can go for the pin, Parker and Chord help DuBois get out of the ring. Retro ends up chasing the trio outside the ring, and the set a trap for him, ensuring he trips over a bunch of camera cords. Retro's head bounces hard off the security barrier. DuBois gets him back in the ring, works him over a bit, and then forces a submission with his Model Solution. [B][CENTER]Marc DuBois Wins at 8:54 via Submission Grade: B[/CENTER] [/B] [CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/MarcDuBoisAltSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/StevenParkerSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/JayChordSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]Marc DuBois, Steven Parker + Jay Chord In-Ring Segment[/B][/CENTER] [I]Looking unhappy at how the match ended, Retro gets up in DuBois' face, but quickly finds himself outnumbered. He leaves before the situation escalates. The Evolution takes a microphone. Normally quite polished on the microphone, DuBois is instead a ball of emotion with streaked hair. He struggles to find the right words, muttering in French. He finally gets out that he wants his North American championship belt back and that he wants Marquez. With that, he flees the ring with Parker and Chord following close behind. [/I] [B][CENTER]Grade: B+[/CENTER] [/B][/quote][B]Rich Money[/B]: D*mnit, DuBois, act like a champion, even when you don't have the belt! [quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/BloodBonhamSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/BloodElderberrySmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Main/VS2Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/EnforcerRobertsSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/FrederiqueGarciaSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Main/VS2Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/GuideSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/ScoutSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]Black Label Fight Club vs Last Chance vs The New Wave[/B][/CENTER] This one goes about as one would expect, with The New Wave looking good and dominating. They are uninvolved for some sequences in the middle, where Roberts and Garcia work over the big Black Label duo. Once Guide and Scout get involved again, its all about them. With their rapid and slick teamwork combined with their complimentary skill sets, the match is theirs to take. And they do. The duo manage to isolate Blood Bonham, working him over with some quick tags and then putting him away after their Wave of Mutilation tag tower legdrop. [CENTER][B]Guide Wins at 9:54 via Pinfall Grade: B-[/B][/CENTER] [/quote][quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/Signed%20Alt/ChampagneLoveralt4Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/Signed%20Alt/GinoMonteroalt11Small.jpg[/IMG] [B]Antonio Marquez + Gino Montero In-Ring Segment[/B][/CENTER] [I]The crowd pops big when the Los Diablos duo as they make their way down to the ring. They come down to new music, which sounds much more patriotic to their Mexican heritage yet still edgy - Peligro. Marquez has the SWF North American championship belt with him. In the ring, the duo does the Mexi-Power poses before Marquez poses with the belt and plays to the crowd. Then they grab microphones. The revolutionary duo assure the fans that the now that Marquez has won the North American championship, the Diablo Revolution is not over. It is, in fact, just beginning, ese. Because Meester Eisen started a fire he can't put out. He called down the wrath of the Diablos. The Diablos don't forgive and they don't forget. A pretty championship belt doesn't satisfy them. Not when things have gone this far. The duo trail off when they see that Rich Money has left the announcers booth and wandered out onto the stage, joined by Remo.[/I] [CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/Alt%20Small/RichMoneyalt8Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/RemoAlt2Small.jpg[/IMG] [B]Rich Money + Remo[/B][/CENTER] [I]Hard Cash has a microphone. He starts by congratulating Marquez on winning the SWF North American championship. He then says that if their little revolution is going to continue, then they have to realize they need gold. Not the kind on the belt, but the green kind. The kind that Money has in spades. The SWF World Heavyweight champion knows that Marquez and Montero still have some friends back in old Mexico, some friends that he will help them bring to the SWF. He will bankroll them... in exchange for some favors. Marquez and Montero seem to consider the offer for a moment, then laugh. They tell the world champion that he is no better than Meester Eisen. That both he and Remo are part of the same elite bourgeois that they are fighting against. Part of the same corrupt power structure that they have sworn to topple. Accepting his offer would mean selling out their revolutionary beliefs and they won't even consider it. Money looks unimpressed by the response. Remo looks indifferent, as he so often does. After thinking about things for a moment, Hard Cash tells the Mexican duo down in the ring that way he sees it, they are either with him or against him. If they are choosing to be against him, so be it. But they might as well get down to establishing dominance, then, so he will face either of them tonight. Whichever one they decide. He'll even put his SWF World Heavyweight championship on the line. Marquez and Montero glance at each other for a moment before agreeing, though they don't tell Money which of them he will be facing. [/I] [B][CENTER]Grade: A[/CENTER] [/B][/quote][B]Jerry Eisen[/B]: I don't get how that Marquez guy can hold the North American championship belt. He's from Mexico. [B]Peter Michael[/B]: Uh, Jerry, Mexico is part of North American. [B]Jerry Eisen[/B]: I'm not stupid, Peter. You can't fool me. [quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/JackGiedroycSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Main/VS2Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/JossThompsonAltSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]Giedroyc vs Joss Thompson[/B][/CENTER] The two tag-team specialists put on pretty solid match. Thompson tries to take the fight to the former tag team champion, pushing him hard from the start. The Brit is up for it, and starts to counter what Thompson throws his way. Despite the determination, he never really manages to put Giedroyc in much danger. The presense of Valiant and Dawn the Cheerleader at ringside keeps Deeley from getting involved, which probably keeps Thompson from maintaining much of an advantage for long. Thompson is pinned after Giedroyc nails his Crashing On jaw breaker. [B][CENTER]Giedroyc Wins at 8:54 via Pinfall Grade: B-[/CENTER] [/B][/quote][quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/JoeSexySmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/SqueekyMcCleanSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]Joe Sexy + Squeeky McClean Sinners Sanctuary Segment[/B][/CENTER] [I]Joe Sexy and John McClean are shown on a new backstage set. The set looks like some kind of garish, Las Vegas version of an old school chapel. It is mostly whitewash board a with bare pine clapboard flooring. There is a small table with a pew-style bench behind it. What makes the set feel odd is the collection of kitsch objects visible - from an Elvis lamp to the blinking neon sign on the wall proclaiming "Sinner's Sanctuary". Sexy and McClean are ginning at the camera. Both are wearing the latest from their Sin Inc line of shirts. Both also wearing their newly-won SWF World Tag Team championship belts. [/I] [B]John McClean[/B]: That's right, this is Joe Sexy. I'm John McClean. We're Sin Inc. And we are the NNNNNEEEEWWWWW SWF World Tag Team champions! [B]Joe Sexy[/B]: Love us or hate us, you better get used to us! [B]John McClean[/B]: But we know you love us. The ladies, at least. [B]Joe Sexy[/B]: You see, part of the reason we're so happy to be new tag teams champions is that being a champion in the Supreme Wrestling Federation comes with certain perks. [B]John McClean[/B]: Perks like this our little "Sinner's Sanctuary" set here. [B]Joe Sexy[/B]: A nice intimate setting for us to update all you fans on all our escapades. [B]John McClean[/B]: And a chance for us to shill our awesome line of Sin Inc clothing. [B]Joe Sexy[/B]: Check out SWF.com or our Sin Inc website to order now! [B]John McClean[/B]: There are other perks. Like when you look at the shiny belts you just won... and realize they aren't that bright and shiny anymore. [B]Joe Sexy[/B]: And when you're the champions, management takes you serious. And things like this happens. [I]Sexy snaps his fingers, and both he and McClean take off their SWF World Tag Team championship belts in unison. A bikini-clad young lady wanders in from off-screen and takes the belts from each of them. Though her face is never shown, the young lady seems to be quite attractive from what can be seen of her. [/I] [I]As soon as she leaves one side of the screen, two more similarly-dressed young ladies appear from the other side. Each carries a silken pillow. Atop each pillow is one of the two new SWF World Heavyweight tag team champions belts. They are presented to Sexy and McClean, who take the belts and smirk with self-satisfaction while they strap them on. [/I] [CENTER] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Belts/SWF/Alts/Mid/SWFTagAltMid.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] [B]John McClean[/B]: The great thing about being a champion in a class organization like the Supreme Wrestling Federation is that they recognize class... and reward it it... with class... [B]Joe Sexy[/B]: Now, Valiant & Giedroyc, you might wonder why you didn't get such rewards. Well, its quite simple - you lack the required class. And your little tart of a manager Dawn obviously does as well. John McClean: Team Gilmore wouldn't know class if it walked up to them and slapped them in their stupid faces! [B]Joe Sexy[/B]: Hell, most of this brand is a little lacking in that regard... Morrisette, those Bumfholes, DuBois and his little friends, that Retro kid, the revolutionaries from Old New Mexico or wherever... And, of course, Jack Bruce... [B]John McClean[/B]: The man they used to call The Decadent Champion... Jack wouldn't know true decadence if it ran him over with a truck! [B]Joe Sexy[/B]: Thankfully, this brand does have a few other classy individuals. Our esteemed SWF World Heavyweight champion, obviously. [B]John McClean[/B]: Rich Money... he's money! [B]Joe Sexy[/B]: And Remo, of course. [B]John McClean[/B]: Even that Newton kid. His friends are a bit suspect, but he seems to be pretty class. [B]Joe Sexy[/B]: But not much beyond that, John. [B]John McClean[/B]: No worries, Joe. We have class enough for everyone. And you fans are going to get to experience that every week, here on Sinner's Sanctuary. [B][CENTER]Grade: B[/CENTER] [/B][/quote][B]Rich Money[/B]: I guess it takes class to know class. [quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/ChrisMorrisetteSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Main/VS2Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/CaseyValentineSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]Chris Morrisette vs Casey Valentine[/B][/CENTER] This one is pretty much a given, but Morrisette manages to drag a pretty solid match out of the youngster. Valentine makes the mistake of throwing everything he has at his opponent early in the match, and then he gets frustrated when the veteran is able to deflect or counter everything he has. Morrisette then takes the offensive and batters away at the youngster. He nails Valentine with suplexes and knees, working him over efficiently and effectively. It looks like its about to be over... but Morrisette stops when he realizes that Sean Deeley and Joss Thompson have walked out to the top of the stage, watching the match. The distraction gives Valentine a breather and a chance, but he can't do much with it. Again, the match looks over when the 19-year old down with his Fisherman's Suplex... but before Morrisette can go for the pin, Payne has come roaring into the ring out of nowhere. Morrisette ducks under the charging monster several times, avoiding his attacks. The ref has called for the bell and ard the match to Morrisette, but he is more worried with trying to escape. It seems like Morrisette is waiting for help to arrive, but when it doesn't, he decides to bail rather than fight against bad odds. When Morrisette realizes that he can't make it up the ramp without having the face the waiting duo of Deeley and Marquez, he retreats through the crowd. [B][CENTER]Chris Morrisette Wins at 7:14 via Disqualification Grade: B-[/CENTER] [/B][/quote][B]Rich Money[/B]: Well that's cowardly. [B]Peter Michaels[/B]: The attack? [B]Rich Money[/B]: No, leaving through the crowd. [quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/Alt%20Small/JackBruceAlt9Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Staff/Managers%20Alt/FarrahHeskethalt11Small.jpg[/IMG] [B]Jack Bruce + Farrath Hesketh In-Ring Interview[/B][/CENTER] [I]Looking unshaven and unclean, Jack Bruce still gets a major pop from the crowd as he makes his way down to the ring. His forehead is still bandaged and he's in street clothes. He doesn't really bother with playing to the crowd much. Farrath Hesketh is waiting in the ring. She begins to ask the Long Island Angel questions, and for the first bit, he doesn't answer anything. He just stands there in the ring with a haunted look on his face. When it seems like Hesketh is about to give up with prompting the former champion, he suddenly says that he's a broken man. That he has nothing left and he doesn't know where he goes from here. He says that ever since he lost to Money, he has been a soulless and heartless zombie, wandering through life without purpose. When Farrah suggests brains, Bruce can't even crack a smile. There is no humor left in him at the moment. Before his emo-ish session of self-loathing is interrupted by the arrival of Ace Newton.[/I] [CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/AceNewtonSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]Ace Newton[/B][/CENTER] [I]The youngster gets a pretty notable negative reaction from the fans as he pops out through the Supreme Gate and stalks down the ramp to the ring. He climbs into the ring, taking the microphone away from Farrah. Newton doesn't lecture the veteran, but taunts him by saying that this isn't how a former SWF World Heavyweight champion should be acting. That he should either find his will to fight or get out of the SWF. Bruce loses the zombie demeanor a bit, telling the youngster that he hasn't earned the right to talk to a veteran and former world champion like that. Newton's response is that Bruce can try to shut him up right now. Newton is in his ring gear. Bruce is wearing street clothes, but strips off his shirt so that he's just wearing his pair of designer pants. [/I] [B][CENTER]Grade: A[/CENTER] [/B] [CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/Alt%20Small/JackBruceAlt9Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Main/VS2Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/AceNewtonSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]Jack Bruce vs Ace Newton[/B][/CENTER] The zombie demeanor hasn't left Bruce entirely left, and he shuffles through the first couple of minutes of the match. Newton does his best to take advantage as he goes for several early pin attempts. It doesn't take the Long Island Angel long to find his groove, though. Once he's back to his normal self, Bruce doesn't seem like he's going to give young opponent a chance. But Newton gets close to the three count on a quick roll up. Newton also gets Bruce up for his Aces High finisher, but the former champion hooks Newton's shoulder and slides off his back, pulling into a piledriver. Bruce shows that its still Show Time by following his New York Trio with his New York Minute Finisher. Bruce seems to quickly fall back into his funk after the match ends, though. [B][CENTER]Jack Bruce Wins at 10:12 via Pinfall Grade: B-[/CENTER] [/B][/quote][B]Rich Money[/B]: Ah, Ace. I taught him that. [B]Jerry Eisen[/B]: To lose? [B]Rich Money[/B]: No, to see and opportunity and go for it. He didn't manage to finish the job, but at least he's trying. Most of the young guys don't even bother doing that. [quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/Signed%20Alt/ChampagneLoveralt4Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Main/VS2Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/RichMoneyAltSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Belts/SWF/Alts/Mid/SWFWorldMoneyMid.jpg[/IMG] [B]Antonio Marquez vs Rich Money SWF World Heavyweight Championship Match[/B][/CENTER] Its the North American champion Antonio Marquez who comes out for the match, making the match an impromptu battle between the Supreme brand champions. The match is simply a classic. Marquez attacks the world champion and harries him with a pace rarely seen in an SWF ring. He moves with the frantic speed of a luchadore, but with the size, power, and attacking style that makes him utterly unique. His diversity of skills are on display. Its the first time that fans in the Surpeme Wrestling Federation have seen the new North American champion in full flight and its a sight to behold. But as impressive as Marquez is, the champion Hard Cash is no pushover. He counters and battles, uses constant dirty tricks to try maintain an advantage. The fans are hot as they truly believe that the champion is in some danger. The match features several near-finishers. The big wow moment comes when Marquez goes up to the top rope for his Champagne Sunrise frog splash, only to have Money slide out of the ring on the opposite side of the ring, at which point Marquez races across the top rope to the next turnbuckle and launches an epic Champagne Sunrise leap to the outside, getting unreal elevation before crashing into Money. Money seems to recover from the impact faster, and he batters Marquez around outside the ring, sliding back inside just to beat the count before going back out to continue his attacks. The end sequence is fantastic – Marquez battles back, brawling with Money in the middle of the ring as the fans urge him forward, but he makes a mistake when he decides to up to the rope rope, as when the athletic Marquez does a quick two-step jump up to the top rope, Money throws himself into the rope and causes Marquez to slip, crotching himself on the top rope. The champion is quick to take advantage, getting up on the top turnbuckle and pulling the challenger up with him, delivering a perfect Bank Roll belly to belly suplex from the top rope. Hard Cash then finishes it off by locking in the bow and arrow leglock and sleep combination that Marquez uses, making the North American champion submit to his own finisher. [B][CENTER]Rich Money Wins at 14:31 via Submission Grade: A*[/CENTER] [/B] [CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/RichMoneyAltSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/Signed%20Alt/ChampagneLoveralt4Small.jpg[/IMG] [B]Rich Money + Antonio Marquez Post-Match Segment[/B][/CENTER] [I]After the match, Hard Cash is all smiles. He's handed his SWF World Heavyweight championship belt and the microphone, while his defeated opponent makes his way out of the ring. Money is breathing heavy but looks satisfied.[/I] [B]Rich Money[/B]: That's why I'm money! [I]The crowd showers the victory with hatred. Marquez collections his North American championship and starts to head up the ramp. He stops when Money calls out to him.[/I] [B]Rich Money[/B]: Hey, loco diablo. Ese, you're good. But you're not good enough yet to take down Hard Cash... Maybe try again in a few months... [I] Marquez stares at the world champion for a long moment, and it seems as though his Latin temper might get the better of him. But he slowly turns away and keeps walking, his North American belt over his shoulder. Money laughs.[/I] [B]Rich Money[/B]: Everyone expects me come out here and talk about my win over Jack Bruce at Under Control. About how I not only out-wrestled but also out-smarted your hero. But that would be redundant. You all saw it, so talking about it won't make it any more awesome than it already was. I, do however, want to talk about what happened after my victory. [I]The crowd reacts to there mere insinuation of Sean McFly. One of their heroes might have fallen in Jack Bruce, but he seems to have already been replaced in the fan's hearts by the returning hero McFly.[/I] [B]Rich Money[/B]: Now I know realize that Mr. McFly was out here early, but I'd like to have a little heart-to-heart with him. An intimate little conversation... right here in front of all you fans. So Sean, please, come out here. [CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/Signed%20Alt/SeanMcFlyalt5Small.jpg[/IMG] [B]Sean McFly[/B][/CENTER] [I]There is only a momentary delay before McFly appears through the Supreme Gate. There is no music or pyro this time, but the crowd still erupts into a frenzy. McFly makes his way down the ramp. He's handed a microphone of his own as he walks. When he gets to the ring, the SWF World Heavyweight champion is holding the ropes open for him to climb through. McFly gets into the ring with Hard Cash, but eyes him warily. He's waiting for something to happen.[/I] [B]Rich Money[/B]: I just wanted to bring you down here, Sean, to welcome you back to the Supreme Wrestling Federation. As the World Heavyweight champion, you could say that I'm the face of the company. So its only right that I properly welcome you. [I]The champion sets his championship belt down on the mat and extends his hand. McFly eyes it warily. The crowd waits, anxious at what could happen... Staring dead into Rich Money's eyes, McFly shakes his hand. The crowd roars. Oddly.[/I] [B]Sean McFly[/B]: Thanks, Rich. [B]Rich Money[/B]: Please, call me Money. I can't help but notice that you look a bit tense, Sean. Like you're expecting me to try something. It seems that everyone believes that I'm upset that you're back in the Supreme Wrestling Federation, but I'm not. So you can relax. I mean, everyone knows I don't like to do my own dirty work... and my “muscle” is all up there... [I] Money points up to the stage, where Remo and Ace Newton are standing. No one has noticed them emerge through the Supreme Gate.[/I] [CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/RemoAlt2Small.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/AceNewtonSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]Remo + Ace Newton[/B][/CENTER] [I]The two simply stand and watch. They make no move towards the ring. [/I] [B]Rich Money[/B]: Don't worry, they're just here to make sure we don't get interrupted. They won't come into the ring. Unless you decide to try something... [B]Sean McFly[/B]: Okay, Money. [B]Rich Money:[/B] To be perfectly honest, I'm happy you're back here in the SWF. Not as happy as these fans, but pretty pleased. Another Supreme Legend for me to beat is just more proof of how money I am. I see how you're looking at my belt. The same belt you held so many years ago. I can tell you want it back. A least a chance to win it back. And I'm more than happy to give you that chance. So how about it, Sean... you and me at Let the Games Begin. Three weeks from now. I'll put my SWF World Heavyweight title on the line. You put that perfect reputation of yours on the line. We'll see who is the better man. How about it? [I]The crowd is ready to erupt, knowing the answer here but having to hear McFly say it...[/I] [B]Sean McFly[/B]: You're on. [I]With a smirk, Money extends his hand. Less cautious now, McFly shakes it. But the champion doesn't let go. He pulls his new rival closer as he holds the microphone in his left hand.[/I] [B]Rich Money[/B]: While I might be happy that you're back, I'm not so happy with how you decided to announce it, Sean. See, you chose to show up with as much drama and impact as possible. Its how I would have done it, to be honest. But you chose to interrupt my moment of glory at Under Control... You chose poorly... [I]With a swift motion and still holding McFly's right hand in his right hand, Money drops the microphone, grabs the back hem of McFly's sport coat, and pulls it up over his head. Before the legend can even react, Hard Cash is smashing him with forearms and elbows. Still effectively jersey'd, McFly flails wildly but ineffectively. Another series of blows from Money drops him. Not content, the champion climbs on top of him and batters away with more punches. The crowd screams, seething at Money's deception. A number of SWF officials and security are trying to make their way down the ramp towards the ring, but they find the way blocked by Remo and Ace. The duo won't let anyone past. The crowd gasps and then roars as McFly manages to buck Money's 300 pounds off his chest, sliding backward from beneath the champion. The 34-year old then leaps to his feet with a snap of athleticism and begins to fight back. They exchange punches, a vicious flurry of men defending their legacies. A hard shot to the chest drives McFly back, but he throws himself further back, rebounding off the ropes with momentum as he leaps at the champion. The flying forearm to the chin drops Rich Money to his knees as the crowd shakes The Dust Bowl. While on his knees, Money finds the SWF World Heavyweight championship belt he dropped. McFly lands into a roll and is back to his feet in a heartbeat, but he takes one step towards the kneeling champ when he is smashed in the face with the title belt. McFly drops. The crowd goes silence as Money stands over his adversary, leering. The crowd roars again, but for a new reason this time. [/I] [CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/ChrisMorrisetteSmall.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/Alt%20Small/JackBruceAlt9Small.jpg[/IMG] [B]Chris Morrisette + Jack Bruce[/B][/CENTER] [I]Morrisette and Bruce have emerged through the Supreme Gate. Without any hesitation at all, Morrisette races down the ramp and throws himself into the crowd of officials trying to get past Remo and Newton. For some reason, the two wrestlers are managing to hold back a large number of non-wrestlers, who seem unwilling to actually fight. Bruce does hesitate, standing on the stage for a moment and trying to decide before he trots down the ramp and into the action. The SWF officials back off as they allow Morrisette and Bruce to take on Remo and Newton. The four men lock into battle, but no ground is given. Money's compatriots manage to continue to block the way to the ring. Inside the ring, the champion still stands over his next challenger triumphantly. The battle on the ramp rages for several minutes until...[/I] [CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/SWF/Small/TroyTornadoAltSmall.jpg[/IMG] [B]Troy Tornado[/B][/CENTER] [I]Troy Tornado appears to a big pop. He rushes down, throwing himself into the fray. Now outnumbered, Remo and Newton can no longer hold the ground. Money has done enough, however. He climbs out of the ring, motioning for Remo and Newton to back off. They back up, disengaging from the battle with Bruce, Morrisette, and Tornado. The SWF officials pour into the ring to check on McFly, who is just starting to move again. The trio of resures stare hard at the Alpha Dogs of the Supreme Wrestling Federation before deciding to leave the fight for another day. The climb into the ring to check on McFly as well. Money, Remo, and Newton slowly back up the ramp. They are showered with hatred from the crowd. When they reach the stage, they stop. Rich Money still has a microphone, which he decided to use one more time...[/I] [B]Rich Money[/B]: And that's why I'm money. [B][CENTER]Grade: A[/CENTER] [/B][/quote][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Main/Grade/grade_bplus.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] [/FONT]

[Bigpapa42]

My third A* match! Woohoo! That's awesome. At the same time, its kinda disapointing. No segment under B- and just a B+ show overall. I'll admit I was aiming for A* with this show, and I guesss I got it - just on the main event instead of the overall grade. Bah, hardly something I'm really going to complain about. I ended up doing a bit more of this one in full write-up than I intended, as I realized that the Badd Kompany and Sin Inc segments probably wouldn't come across as well with just the recap style. The final segment came out pretty long, but I think that's kinda necessary. Not as epic as McFly's arrival at the PPV, but I wanted something that came across as a big deal as well. The kind of segment which can set the stage for a feud that could run months. Oh, and the SWF World Tag Team title alts are courtesy of Reaper. Someones he did awhile ago that I decided to use now, as it made sense with the title change and all. Thanks Reaper!

[ampulator]

Hey, some shorthand and longhead segments are fine. Not every segments needs to be complete fleshed out, but some segments truly deserved it (as you thought so). In any case, I'm not so shocked about the A* match, but it did bring a smile to my face. I mean, come on, two talented workers in the ring, and what do you expect? Match gold. :) By the way, that reminds me... what about a Rich Money/Rick Law Reunion in the SWF? I mean, if Rick Law's an Upper Midcarder, of course.

[Phantom Stranger]

I gotta admit, I grinned when I saw the A*. Kudos!

[Bigpapa42]

[QUOTE=ampulator;636417]Hey, some shorthand and longhead segments are fine. Not every segments needs to be complete fleshed out, but some segments truly deserved it (as you thought so). In any case, I'm not so shocked about the A* match, but it did bring a smile to my face. I mean, come on, two talented workers in the ring, and what do you expect? Match gold. :) By the way, that reminds me... what about a Rich Money/Rick Law Reunion in the SWF? I mean, if Rick Law's an Upper Midcarder, of course.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Phantom Stranger;636418]I gotta admit, I grinned when I saw the A*. Kudos![/QUOTE] Thanks guy. The funny thing is that I was really really close to using Gino Montero against Rich Money instead. It was pretty-much a throw together main event. I had planned the offer to fund the revolution by Money segment for a long while, but it wasn't always intended to lead to a match that night. I had also planned the show-ending segment between Money and McFly - if I couldn't get him signed in time for the PPV (it was close), then that probably would've been the spot for his debut. I was thinking about a Remo or Bruce main event. As I was putting together the final layout for the show, Money in the match made sense and the segment with the Diablos made a good lead-in. I just wasn't sure which Diablo to use. I actually changed the match a couple of times as I was booking the show. I knew Marquez would make for a better match, just because of his better overness. But I didn't know if I wanted to put my World champion and North American champion in a match on TV with no prior build-up. Decided to go with it, and boom... A* match. As for Rick Law, he's under contract to TCW for awhile yet. He's another Total guy I would definitely have a ton of use for, but that's not going to happen for awhile.

[ampulator]

You also have to credit that Champagne Lover is a a pretty good worker. This guy can work well in any promotion. :) By the way, are you going to do anything on your idea of increasing weight class? Reading some of the other topics about it, I'm think it's okay as long as their height can handle their weight. For example, if Champagne Lover was weighted as a Light Heavyweight, he can go back to that, and because of his height, maybe even a Heavyweight. :)

[Bigpapa42]

[QUOTE=ampulator;636474]You also have to credit that Champagne Lover is a a pretty good worker. This guy can work well in any promotion. :) By the way, are you going to do anything on your idea of increasing weight class? Reading some of the other topics about it, I'm think it's okay as long as their height can handle their weight. For example, if Champagne Lover was weighted as a Light Heavyweight, he can go back to that, and because of his height, maybe even a Heavyweight. :)[/QUOTE] Lover has even improved a bit since I signed him. Not significantly, but his Pyschology went up a grade for sure, and possibly some other stuff. He is an amazing worker. Not only highly skilled, but so diverse in his skills. He should be able to match up against literally anyone. Plus the Entertainment skills and the Star Quality... It was tough to keep his initial push gradual. I was tempted to give him a bigger push right out of the gate. He's at Main Event level now, but at the bottom of it. I figure he'll work his way up to high-level main event by the end of the year. That seems a fairly gradual push to me... I am doing something with the weight change idea. Which is coming up in my next Random Thoughts segment. Which should be posted up tonight, I expect.

[ampulator]

It's hard to keep a star like Champagne Lover down. But did you also notice that this guy can go Hardcore? I never thought it was in him, but hey, it's Champagne Lover. :p In any case, how did he rise up so fast? You didn't push him THAT hard.

[Bigpapa42]

[QUOTE=ampulator;636549]It's hard to keep a star like Champagne Lover down. But did you also notice that this guy can go Hardcore? I never thought it was in him, but hey, it's Champagne Lover. :p In any case, how did he rise up so fast? You didn't push him THAT hard.[/QUOTE] I've found that with a high Star Quality like Marquez, just putting them on TV regularly will see them slide up the card pretty rapidly. Its the same with Gino Montero, Marc DuBois, and even Davis Wayne Newton (he jumped from A to A* SQ right as soon as I signed him) They almost always lose to guys above them, only beat guys below them, but they are on TV regularly. I featured him weekly on B show, especially early on. I used the B show to put them in angles back when those angles would grade out poorly. Using this approach, its pretty easy to get a guy to "lose their way up the card" with about one grade (E+ to D-, etc) per month or so. The win by Marquez over DuBois was his first real win that I can recall where he went over someone above him. Similar to DuBois when he beat Eric Eisen to take the NA belt. I was actually much less concerned about Marquez undergoing a personality change if I pushed him hard, compared to the much younger DuBois. Still, I don't like those heavy pushes. Just not my style. As for DWN (aka Ace), his association with the Alpha Dogs (Money and Remo) has given him a rub, but not a major one. He's not jumping up Popularity grades any faster than he was before. He's not getting the wins in the tag matches, so that's not really jumping him up. The highly-rated angles he's featuring in helps him more in terms of momentum than overness. So far at least, the association with Money and Remo has been about helping him in storyline terms more than actually helping him in the game - which was really the intent in the first place.

[ampulator]

Hold on... DWN [B][U]STAR QUALITY[/U][/B] increased? Isn't that pretty rare?

[Bigpapa42]

[QUOTE=ampulator;636608]Hold on... DWN [B][U]STAR QUALITY[/U][/B] increased? Isn't that pretty rare?[/QUOTE] I asked the same question here when it happened. Apparently small increases can happen when a worker is young. Don't know if it takes a catalyst event, like the worker joining the biggest promotion in the world. Also don't know just how rare it is, but it seems like minimal increases would rarely be noticable as it would rarely bump the worker up to the next grade. It just happens that the increase for DWN was enough to move him from A to A*, even though it was only a half point increase or so. I can double-check my game when I'm at home, and take a look at a few other workers to see. I do know it happened in more than one of my many test games, too, so it can't be utterly rare.

[Bigpapa42]

So a bit of resarch into my game tells me that the jump in Star Quality is not rare at all. Comarping the starting Star Quality to the current, it increased somewhere between .8 and 1.7 for most of the younger workers I signed. I'm not sure what causes it, as it even happened to a couple of the developmental guys who went straight to development and have never appeared on TV or anything. Some guys saw the increase right as soon as they were signed, while other took longer. Of all the slight increases in SQ, only three of them actually increased a grade - Newton, El Leon, and Cameron Vessey - which was only because they were very close to the next grade where they started, not because they increased more than others. The only worker on the starting SWF roster that seems to have increasd as well is DuBois, who increased 1.4.

[Bigpapa42]

[FONT="Arial"][CENTER][IMG]http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/Bigpapa42_2006/Wrestling/Workers/Avatars/Small/AvatarSmall.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] [quote]Random thought of the day... sometimes the good feelings are fleeting, so enjoy it while you can... The tangible sense of joy that the return of Sean McFly had brought to the roster at the pay per view lasted all but two days. Richard, in his infinite wisdom, decided to go through with some roster cuts leading into the weekend. When word got around, as it always does, it apparently made for a tense weekend for a significant portion of the roster as they were worried about getting a call themselves to say, "sorry but we just don't need you". There was a definite sense of tension backstage at Supreme TV on Tuesday night. Everyone seemed a bit on edge. Well, not everyone - the top guys knew they were safe and had no concerns. But everyone from the midcard on down seemed to be concerned. They can't really be blamed - their livelihoods were at stake, and they couldn't know whether the cuts were done. Even though the intiial cuts were mostly developmental workers and jobbers who rarely got on TV, the rest of the roster couldn't know if it would go further. The truth was that the cuts weren't over yet. Somewhere down the line a bit, a few more workers are going to be given best wishes for the future and released. No superstars, but some names that at least a few fans out there might miss. In a way, I guess I'm to blame. At least partly. A few months ago, when Richard gave me that super-secret list of workers that we could have a chance to sign and asked me to come up with possible ideas for all of them, I guess I didn't make it clear that we couldn't enact every idea at once. So if we sign three babyface cruiserweight tag teams, we might have an idea of how to push each of them. But we can't do it all at once, because not everyone can get pushed. There is only so much TV time available. I didn't explain it that way, and though he should have known better, Richard didn't think of it that way. So he went out and signed all three tag teams, and then two of the three ended up languishing without much to do beyond the occasionally bit of jobbing. Its not really fair to a talented duo like Rivera and Nelson to have them doing next to nothing, so the release is probably a positive move for their careers. Do they see it that way, though? Do the other workers? So the backstage was tense. I wasn't get the feeling of negativity being directed my way, at least not yet. Now if the office decides to start using the "creative has nothing for them" excuse for releasing talent, then I'm going to have some problems to deal with. Not that the nervous tension was the only issue I was dealing with at the show. Another potential problem caught my eye as I was talking to Sean McFly. It was right after McFly did his "glad to be back" segment. I was standing near the Crippler Position when McFly came through the Supreme Gate, and he immediately came over to me to ask how it was. Stop for a second and consider how strange this should be. A 34-year old veteran, a true legend of the business, asking for approval from some kid who has barely been in the business for a full year now. I almost burst out laughing as we talked, my mind trying to comprehend the absurdity of our conversation when you really considered the context. But I kept it together and gave McFly the feedback he sought. "I'm a bit rusty," he admitted to me. "I didn't work the mic much up north." Much? How about not at all. When North of the Border Pro Wrestling is on TV, there might be one non-wrestling segment per show. And that's regardless of whether the show is one hour or two. That one segment is most likely going to feature on the Stone boys, too. Its honestly tough to tell how much of it is rust and how much of it is just the fact that McFly was never great on the mic, even at his SWF peak. The time up north certainly didn't improve him in that regard. Defining McFly on the mic is a bit difficult. Its almost easier to look at what he isn't rather than what he is. Workers who are really good on the microphone - such as Rich Money, Jack Bruce, Christian Faith, or even Emma Chase - manage to project very well. They are like any other skillful orator in that regard. Its not just having and showing charisma, but skillfully manipulating a crowd. Using expressions and pauses effectively. Putting their character across to the crowd with every word. Well, McFly can't really do any of that. However, he's not wooden or bumbling, either. He can talk effectively, its just not the way that most skillful entertainers do it in this business. McFly's style is low-key, honest, and genuine. He comes across as a guy just going out there and talking from his heart. It has an "aw-shucks" quality that usually doesn't work in this business with a big crowd, but it somehow does for McFly. It really comes down the fact that the fans buy him as being as low-key, honest, and genuine as he seems... because he is. Its one of those things that shouldn't happen and shouldn't work, but it is. "I think I'm going to put some work in on promos," McFly commented. "Do you think?" Could I really tell this man he needed to get better, whether it was true or not? I took a diplomatic approach, saying, "Anyone can always better, I suppose." "Do you think some of the guys would be willing to help me out a bit?" Willing? "Uh, yeah, I'm sure guys like Jack, Rich, or even Faith would be willing to work with you," I told McFly. He looked me eagerly, so I offered, "I could talk to them for you, if you'd like." "That would be great," he grinned. How genuine and unassuming is this guy? As we talked a bit further about how his return to the Supreme Wrestling Federation should unfold over the next few months. It was clear that McFly had a good mind for the business. It was also clear that he was not simply concerned with putting himself over. His suggestions included ways in which he could help some of the young guys get over. After I finished talking with McFly, I grabbed by the other Sean - Deeley. He wanted to talk to me about getting the chance to work against more of the top guys. His two matches with Morrisette had both been fantastic. Much like his namesake McFly, Deeley is relatively without ego. He wasn't asking to work with top opponents in hopes of getting himself more over, but because he knew he could put on some great matches with them. As we talked, I couldn't help notice that Deeley was looking bigger. He was wearing a T-shirt, and one that wasn't particularly tight fitting. But he looked thicker through his chest and shoulders. When Deeley helped train me at the DeColt's camp a bit over a year ago, he was a bit over 230 pounds. Only about 6 feet tall, he was solidly built, but not that thickly muscled. That had changed. He had to be 250 pounds easy now. I think we had him billed at about 255 pounds, but billed weights are hardly any sort of accurate gauge. When I asked him about, Deeley admitted he had been spending a lot of time in the gym. Not just building strength, as he usually did, but putting on mass, too. He was using some supplements and trying to eat right. He told me that he wanted to be a big middleweight, at the very least, if not actually getting into the light heavyweight category. He didn't have to explain his motivation. Once we had finished up, I found myself wandering through the backstage area, and I noticed that a number of other workers had put on some bulk as well. I'm sure it wasn't a brand new development, but it wasn't something I had paid attention to previously. A lot of the Generation Supreme guys had bulked up a bit. It was more noticeable on some guys than others. Casey Valentine was 6'5" and he now probably weighed similar to Deeley, but the ten pounds he had probably added wasn't that immediately apparent. Ash Campbell was under six feet, and he had probably added close to 20 pounds in the past few months. He wasn't even really a lightweight anymore - how had I missed something like that? The biggest change over the past few months had been Gino Montero. He had added over 25 pounds in the recent months, going from a slender luchadore to a toned and muscled look that suited the American audience more. Of course, Gino was only 18 years old, and he had also grown more than an inch in that time. He was still growing and filling out his frame. He was close to six feet tall now, and if he added much more mass, he would be considered a middleweight. I doubt he will ever be a big middleweight like Marquez is, but looking less like a traditional small Mexican luchadore will help him here in the Supreme Wrestling Federation. I wasn't concerned about Montero getting bigger, and I knew Deeley well enough to know that he would never take the easy road. Newton had added a little weight as well but he also didn't have me concerned, as had been taken under the wing of Remo and Money recently - life imitating art. But with some of the other young guys, I wasn't so sure. Many of them would follow the route of many bodybuilders and use supplements to add mass and muscle tone. But some could be tempted to take the easier road. Had Big Smack Scott's demise been enough of an example? Or had some people forgotten already? In a basic sense, I could understand the temptation. In this business, your look matters. That's not just true of Sports Entertainment, but really any type of promotion. It just matters a bit moreso in Sports Entertainment. Thankfully, you cannot get by simply based on a look - otherwise Sinclair would've been a world champion here in the SWF. But the look is part of the package. If that isn't there, it doesn't mean you can't get over and get to the top, but just that it becomes a tougher road. With the whole Generation Supreme movement happening, there were more young guys in the SWF than ever before. The old guard wasn't exactly racing for the exit door at this point, though. There was a lot of pressure on these guys to succeed, to stand out above the crowd. Especially on the plethora of second generation guys now. Trying to live up to their family and the legacy is added pressure. Someone like Ash Campbell is smart enough to know that he stands a better chance of succeeding if resembles his father's 240 pounds of violence-dishing muscle rather than a 205 pound lightweight version of Nemesis. For some of these guys, having the look and the size could be the little bit of difference that puts them over and gets them to the top. If steroids remained a problem backstage, it wouldn't just be the young guys trying to get bigger that would be tempted. With all the veterans on the roster, healing up from injuries faster would have to be an appealing though, especially for guys hitting their late 30s and realizing that their bodies just didn't recover as fast anymore. My hope was that steroids were no longer an issue in the Supreme Wrestling Federation. But I'm a bit too much of a realistic to believe that. We still test regularly. We may have to make that even more regular. I just want to be sure... As I wandered around the backstage area for much of the night, wondering what each of these guys had done to add mass, I realize that my residual good feeling from the great pay per view was gone too. It wasn't snatched away in the same manner that it seemed to have been for most of the workers, but it was gone all the same. Wednesday, Week 3, September 2008 Avatar[/quote] [/FONT]

[ampulator]

I was wondering, what does Weight Class in-of-itself affect anyway?

[James Casey]

It affects the moves a worker can pull off for a start - at least in terms of how big an opponent they can hit their finisher on. I don't think it affects gimmicks (having written an extra thirty or so this week I [I]should[/I] know, but can't remember) but it may affect pushes and/or wrestler styles - a Heavyweight Luchador is unlikely.

[D-Lyrium]

It does affect gimmicks, there's an option for minimum and maximum weight. Also affects 'natural' gains/losses in certain stats (most notably Power and Stamina).

[James Casey]

Makes sense. Who got the chop in the end, anyway? Apart from Rivera and Nelson presumably...

[Bigpapa42]

[QUOTE=James Casey;636855]Makes sense. Who got the chop in the end, anyway? Apart from Rivera and Nelson presumably...[/QUOTE] So far... Rhino Umaga, Donnie J, Adam Matravers, Nathan McKenzie, Queen Emily, Daniel Black Francis, Ryan Holland, American Machine, the DuPont brothers, two Japanese youngsters, and a couple of talented luchadores who were intended as part of a storyline I have abandoned. Of all of those, I think only Umaga and Donnie J had made proper TV debuts. A couple others appeared on the B show at some point. American Machine, for example, was part of a tag with American Elemental - Americana. There are going to be more cuts coming, and some actual names. I'm just working through some concerns, particularly about the Sky Club Tag division. As for the weight changes, it does affect gimmicks (which ones can be effectively used) and skill development a bit. Changing just one weight class shouldn't have have major positive or negative effects, which is really why I feel comfortable doing it. If it affected things in a significant manner, it would feel a lot more like cheating. Realistically, it affects my perception more than anything in the game. Because I would feel a lot more comfortable pushing Ash Campbell or Gino Montero if they are a middleweight as opposed to a lightweight... now wanna guess which of those two could be a world champion some day? It could also have some storyline repercussions...

[ampulator]

If it's Ash Campbell, his performance stats better have improved. The fans aren't going to accept someone with Low Performance stats. I think Gino's almost give at some point, even if you end this diary before you he gets it. :p Personally, I have no problem with Lightweight Champions, though most of the lightweights I like are REALLY skirting on the edge of Lightweight (around 220 to 229 pounds), like Lance Storm.