shipshirt Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I was just curious...am I insane or did draws, double COs...etc count as title defenses before? It seems with the latest patches they don't and I didn't know if I was just imagining it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg McNeish Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I was wondering about that. I just downloaded the game (new computer), so I obviously have the latest patch, and I just ran a time limit draw, with the tag titles on the line, that didn't count as a defense. Here I was trying to make sure that they didn't lose it "on the first defense" (despite being champions for the last 3 months, prior to Jan 08), and it doesn't count. I'm not upset, though. Merely confused, as shipshirt seems to be, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Its been changed to succesfull defenses aka the team or person that has the title wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeMan Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 For me it works... I have the newest patch installed, and when I have a draw with a title on the line, it is shown as a title defense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipshirt Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 Its been changed to succesfull defenses aka the team or person that has the title wins. Oh ok, so it has been changed. I thought I was just imagining things! lol I would counter, though, that a draw (time limit more than double dq or co) would be a successful title defense as the champ successfully staved off the challenger. It's the champion advantage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I think it's a shame this has been changed, as a draw really should count as a defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachtfalter Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I haven't installed the newest patch yet and if this is true I won't do it. Of course a draw is a title defense. I don't know how there could even be a discussion. Has it really been changed, though? WeeMan says no and it's not mentioned in the temporary patch thread, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmaster Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Where do we get the latest patch and when was it released. I have the patch from August and draw's dont count as defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bak42 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Where do we get the latest patch and when was it released. I have the patch from August and draw's dont count as defenses. Here. http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showthread.php?t=32187 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud1305 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I haven't installed the newest patch yet and if this is true I won't do it. Of course a draw is a title defense. I don't know how there could even be a discussion. Has it really been changed, though? WeeMan says no and it's not mentioned in the temporary patch thread, either. I have installed the latest patch and draws do count as Title defences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipshirt Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 I have installed the latest patch and draws do count as Title defences. I just had three draws and they didn't count as defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipshirt Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 I just posted a message in the Tech Support thread to get an answer from Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeMan Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I just had a draw in a tag team title match and it did count as a title defense. It works perfectly for me every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg McNeish Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I'm also not having draws count as defenses. I just verified that again. I'm playing as NOTBPW, so I'm only able to test this with Time Limit draws (without purposely taking a low grade). Perhaps the finish has an effect here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipshirt Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 I would think Time Limit Draws are the ones that would count as a defense, much moreso than Double DQs...etc. Adam posted that "it's the same as it's always been" so I don't know if that means they always counted or never counted LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepper2008 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I'm also not having draws count as defenses. I just verified that again. I'm playing as NOTBPW, so I'm only able to test this with Time Limit draws (without purposely taking a low grade). Perhaps the finish has an effect here.... Actually just placing a draw is enough, That what I do and still no penalty still can produce A matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipshirt Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Having a draw can still net you a great grade. In fact, a good number of my A* matches have been time limit draws. The jury is still out on whether draws will count as title defenses...even Adam doesn't know for sure! lol The mystery continues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepper2008 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 :eek:Adam does not know something, Sacriledge:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud1305 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I would think Time Limit Draws are the ones that would count as a defense, much moreso than Double DQs...etc. Adam posted that "it's the same as it's always been" so I don't know if that means they always counted or never counted LOL The draw I ran was a match between Cornell and Tyson Baine in TCW that ended in a double count out. I'll post a few screenshots soon. Here is the belt Defenses screen. http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tcwdraw2jv8.jpg Here is the show results screen. http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tcwdraw1hn1.jpg I'm running on the patch from 29th January. EDIT: Here is the Title History showing the number of Defences as 1. http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tcwdraw3lr6.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 ok just missing the title holder screen. As theres a difference between a defence aka match with title on the line and a defence showing up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipshirt Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 OK, I figured out where all the confusion is coming from I just ran a 10 minute time limit draw between Adam Matravers and Hugh de Aske for the TCW All Action title (and double and triple checked that the belt was on the line in the match). This is using the 1/29 patch. The result of the match was: Hugh de Aske drew with Adam Matravers in 10:00 when the time limit expired. No mention of the title. BUT in the show results section it does state that the title was retained and in the title screen it does list 1 defense (which is correct). So it looks like draws DO still count as defenses, for some reason they just aren't being listed as such DURING the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 prolly was goes its a low level title then or not high enough importance midcard one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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