Arrows Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Arrows has said this a thousand times, so you're probably correct.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have places to watch until such a time as they do something worthy of making a dime off me. Places they make no advertising revenue. I'll still watch, hopeful and disgusted, but not in any way that makes them any cash at all.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Basmat01" data-cite="Basmat01" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree he isn't The Rock.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They want the belt on him for press conferences/appearances for GOTG. They think showing the world they crowned a champ not one fan gives a shit about will be good publicity.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <p>Seriously WWE, remember that time you were culturally relevant by having fresh faces and fresh match-ups while that other company ran re-treads of Hogan vs. Piper and Hogan vs. Warrior and a bunch of other guys that had worn out their appeal as main event draws? </p><p> </p><p> Even WCW knew to put the belt on a new guy when the crowd wouldn't stop chanting for him.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astil Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <p>They try to keep US down and away from the top spots, but they can’t ignore the reactions forever. Keep voicing your opinions. #YESMovement</p><p> </p><p> @DanielBryanWWE</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammoth Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do feel bad for Rey Mysterio through. Poor dude had the most heat in the entire PPV.<img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></div></blockquote><p> This. I agree with I think everyone else here that the crowd - for once - were on form, but Rey didn't deserve that treatment. Fair do's, boo him on his entrance because you were disappointed but the boos on the 619 on Rollins and the cheers on his exit were uncalled for, Rey didn't book it.</p><p> </p><p> I think they're already feelings the effects of one world championship because they've almost got too many challengers for one title now. They've obviously found roles for Bray Wyatt, John Cena and CM Punk (Wyatt Vs. Cena and Punk Vs. The Authority) but then everyone else is either left fighting for the championship of which I can only imagine two spots available for Wrestlemania or doing nothing. Take Brock for example, he's just demolished a "giant", the commentators hyped him to the limit and he's already made his determination to win the championship known but where does this leave him? It's also the reason the likes of Alberto Del Rio and Dolph Ziggler have unceremoniously dropped down the card. Whether you like the new layout of a single world championship or not, you can't possibly like the fact that these guys no longer have the opportunity of some recognition whether that's a second-bit world championship or not.</p><p> </p><p> I'm glad Alexander Rusev and Roman Reigns got the spotlight they deserve (by the way, that dropkick Roman Reigns entered with was fantastic) but Roman Reigns just leaves them with another problem. Obviously the break-up of The Shield will probably be there Wrestlemania moment, but it's what they do with Reigns after that now people will see him as that main event guy. A lot could change between now and 'Mania, but as we've already witnessed, the 'E aren't as subtle as they like to think they're; whether you like it or not, Batista winning the Rumble was <strong>always</strong> a certainty.</p><p> </p><p> @Basmat01 - The punch usually "knocks out" most people but Brock took it and continued wrestling. What more do you want from him? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEgend Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <p>Bryan losing and not being in the Rumble only makes him stronger <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> And WWE know that. Didn't mind Reigns not winning, but it's a good sign for him long term and the crowd are invested in him. What WWE do best is making me want more. Might be annoyed at certain outcomes but I know for a fact I'm a whole lot more behind certain guys after tonight. I think the 'internet fans' are the people who get most invested into their own versions of face and heels these days. Seems like a modernised versions of regular face/heel reaction to me, but who knows.</p><p> </p><p> No complaints from me, especially considering how invested I got in wanting Reigns to win it <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />. Cena/Orton out of the way on the Rumble where it wasn't a main focus, so we know we won't see it again. Good show IMO, I enjoyed it.</p><p> </p><p> I do agree that there is increasingly good reaction to the new guys and think they're not far off (maybe after Mania) having a few guys really break out as stars. The future is bright <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> WWE certainly know their audience as far as I can tell</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <p>Mick Foley tweeted this:</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does @WWE actually hate their own audience? I've never been so disgusted with a PPV.</div></blockquote> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Posted on the previous page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Findlay Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I have never seen a PPV more violently rejected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatChizzle Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 well, at least its obvious that Batista is off the steroids, looked scrawny next to the other wrestlers heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Posted on the previous page <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> Whoops...not used to this thread moving so quickly. <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <p>I really have no idea why people are so upset about this. They have been telling you for a MONTH this was exactly what they were going to do. They pushed two stories for this Rumble. Batista returns, and CM Punk is number one. That was as close as they could come to saying "Bastista is going to win and Punk is going coast to coast". Then there were some of you that still believed so they had Bryan go on RAW and say he WASN'T even going to be in the match.</p><p> </p><p> Instead of everyone saying "ok I understand Batista is going to win and that sucks so I'm not going to buy it" instead you guys went the opposite direction. Bryan is going to be a surprise entrant and win it because Vince and Triple H are playing us and they are going to swerve us. Even though they've given you ZERO indication over the last six months that Daniel Bryan was anything more than an Upper Mid Carder with a fun yes chant. Right or wrong that is how they view him, that is how they have pushed him. If anyone thought anything but this result was going to happen they only have themselves to blame for watching/buying. It was the most obvious Rumble in years.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Findlay Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I really have no idea why people are so upset about this. They have been telling you for a MONTH this was exactly what they were going to do. They pushed two stories for this Rumble. Batista returns, and CM Punk is number one. That was as close as they could come to saying "Bastista is going to win and Punk is going coast to coast". Then there were some of you that still believed so they had Bryan go on RAW and say he WASN'T even going to be in the match.<p> </p><p> Instead of everyone saying "ok I understand Batista is going to win and that sucks so I'm not going to buy it" instead you guys went the opposite direction. Bryan is going to be a surprise entrant and win it because Vince and Triple H are playing us and they are going to swerve us. Even though they've given you ZERO indication over the last six months that Daniel Bryan was anything more than an Upper Mid Carder with a fun yes chant. Right or wrong that is how they view him, that is how they have pushed him. If anyone thought anything but this result was going to happen they only have themselves to blame for watching/buying. It was the most obvious Rumble in years.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Obvious? Yes. Also idiotic. I've been a WWF/E fan forever, I remember watching the first episode of Raw. I have never seen such a train wreck of a show like tonight's was. It was obvious, but who would have thought they'd be that dumb.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I hear you, Stennick. I passed on going in on ordering the Rumble with a buddy for exactly the reasons you listed. It's clear to me that they don't view Bryan as "the guy", no matter how loudly the crowd reacts to him, and that has a lot to do with why Raw is no longer on my DVR schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinesxe Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 This was really bad ending. They could have had it come down to Wyatt and Bryan in the end and had Cena come out when it looked like Wyat had the win and he Bryan win shortly after making a full shift to Wyatt vs Cena and Bryan vs Champion. It's not even like Bryan got "held" back tonight by the higher ups to build that feud further. They are holding Bryan back and not doing what's best for business, tonight's finish helps no one. Batista isn't The Rock, he isn't Y2J, heck he isn't even RVD. He is a leftover roided jackass who was on top when C Rated wrestling was happin with the likes of Main Ecenters like Rey Rey and JBL... I'm just saying, he bags on ADR, but he was on the B show as the B champion during a downtime. This should have been Daniels getting the torch to carry... Vince is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinesxe Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Right now Maina 30 looks to be one of the worst in history. I have no interest in any of the matchs at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammoth Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="20LEgend" data-cite="20LEgend" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Bryan losing and not being in the Rumble only makes him stronger <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"><p> </p><p> And WWE know that. Didn't mind Reigns not winning, but it's a good sign for him long term and the crowd are invested in him. What WWE do best is making me want more. Might be annoyed at certain outcomes but I know for a fact I'm a whole lot more behind certain guys after tonight. I think the 'internet fans' are the people who get most invested into their own versions of face and heels these days. Seems like a modernised versions of regular face/heel reaction to me, but who knows.</p><p> </p><p> No complaints from me, especially considering how invested I got in wanting Reigns to win it <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png">. Cena/Orton out of the way on the Rumble where it wasn't a main focus, so we know we won't see it again. Good show IMO, I enjoyed it.</p><p> </p><p> I do agree that there is increasingly good reaction to the new guys and think they're not far off (maybe after Mania) having a few guys really break out as stars. The future is bright <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> WWE certainly know their audience as far as I can tell</p></div></blockquote><p> I do think the crowd are invested in Roman Reigns but not nearly as much as they were tonight. Most of the cheers for Reigns only came when only he and Batista were left so I think most people were just cheering for the lesser of two evils. </p><p> </p><p> As for Bryan, I think it would have made him stronger if there was a clear path for him to follow but now The Wyatts have clearly moved on to Cena, it kinda leaves him in the lurch. They can obviously save it on Raw tomorrow but just for tonight, everyone's negativity is justified.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Instead of everyone saying "ok I understand Batista is going to win and that sucks so I'm not going to buy it" instead you guys went the opposite direction. Bryan is going to be a surprise entrant and win it because Vince and Triple H are playing us and they are going to swerve us. Even though they've given you ZERO indication over the last six months that Daniel Bryan was anything more than an Upper Mid Carder with a fun yes chant. Right or wrong that is how they view him, that is how they have pushed him. If anyone thought anything but this result was going to happen they only have themselves to blame for watching/buying. It was the most obvious Rumble in years.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I didn't go any "opposite direction"? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I didn't buy the show. I just looked at what their biggest and best match was and thought maybe they should build according to that. And the bar I was at was just as bored/annoyed by Batista's win as everyone else. It was the most poorly booked rumble in years, and the crowd reaction pretty well bears that out. Seriously, the WWE could've at least had Bad News Barrett come out and play up being #30 instead of stupidly thinking that the crowd wouldn't boo Rey. Spoiler alert: they did.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basmat01 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mammoth" data-cite="Mammoth" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> @Basmat01 - The punch usually "knocks out" most people but Brock took it and continued wrestling. What more do you want from him? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know that it just killed the momentum Brock had at the time.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Black Phenom Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They have been telling you for a MONTH this was exactly what they were going to do. They pushed two stories for this Rumble. Batista returns, and CM Punk is number one. That was as close as they could come to saying "Bastista is going to win and Punk is going coast to coast". Then there were some of you that still believed so they had Bryan go on RAW and say he WASN'T even going to be in the match.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> hardly matters, swerves happen and like you said, that's what the fans wanted.</p><p> </p><p> It was a return like the others, there was nothing proprietary about it, as usual some buff promo videos and a couple of mentions from commentators and some superstars. The only special thing about it actually was that Del Rio was beating up Rey bracing for his return.</p><p> </p><p> On top of that, when he came back Monday... his promo to Orton couldn't have lasted more than 20 seconds. oh and he took Del Rio out. No fluff, no jazz. They didn't tell us jack other than "Batista's returning", IMO.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Even though they've given you ZERO indication over the last six months that Daniel Bryan was anything more than an Upper Mid Carder with a fun yes chant.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There are several Raws that have showed me otherwise, including the aftermath of that steel cage match a few weeks ago.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It was the most obvious Rumble in years.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> there's a trope for people saying that too.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demondragonking Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <p>I want the crowd that was at Rumble to be at Mania 30. All of them. I can just IMAGINE their reactions to the main event and it makes me smile. </p><p> </p><p> Seriously though, WWE has always had their 'we know what's best and you'll like what we give you' attitude, granted that it fluxes and wanes over time,but even when Vince steps down I seriously doubt that will change in the slightest.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Considering that HHH runs NXT and it is consistently the best wrestling show every week, I personally cant wait for Vince to go away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEgend Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mammoth" data-cite="Mammoth" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I do think the crowd are invested in Roman Reigns but not nearly as much as they were tonight. Most of the cheers for Reigns only came when only he and Batista were left so I think most people were just cheering for the lesser of two evils.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't think that many other guys would've got the reaction that Reigns did. I have no way of knowing but <em>I</em> think a lot of it is how good he is. I think people are ready to really get behind him and this was a good starting point (being last two and The Shield stuff)</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mammoth" data-cite="Mammoth" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As for Bryan, I think it would have made him stronger if there was a clear path for him to follow but now The Wyatts have clearly moved on to Cena, it kinda leaves him in the lurch. They can obviously save it on Raw tomorrow but just for tonight, everyone's negativity is justified.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have no problem with anybodies negativity but I enjoyed it, so I gave a bit of balance. I think he'll play a big part in the build to Mania. I thought he had a great match, and they delivered on what they advertised, for that reason I had no complaints. I might be the only one, but I didn't think Bryan would be in the Rumble, so I wasn't disappointed.</p><p> </p><p> Bryan's tweets suggest their keeping the Authority keeping him down bubbling under and I think tomorrow will tell a lot. I rarely get annoyed at wrestling, and I keep optimistic (possibly too much so), until I have reason otherwise - to me, this is another good step for Bryan being even more over. The 'moments' Bryan has created have all been because he's 'held down', it's what has made him since at least WM 28. The more that fans perceive this, the stronger he gets from what I've seen. He's in a prominent role on every TV show (most TV Main Event) and had a great match tonight. Fair enough with the negative, but I see a lot to be positive about, since <em>I</em> enjoyed the show.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="demondragonking" data-cite="demondragonking" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I want the crowd that was at Rumble to be at Mania 30. All of them. I can just IMAGINE their reactions to the main event and it makes me smile. <p> </p><p> Seriously though, WWE has always had their 'we know what's best and you'll like what we give you' attitude, granted that it fluxes and wanes over time,but even when Vince steps down I seriously doubt that will change in the slightest.</p></div></blockquote><p> Mania crowds usually seem to be pretty smarky these days; remember how they reacted when Bryan got jobbed out in 18 seconds or whatever it was? If that trend holds up, Orton/Batista will get crapped all over.</p><p> </p><p> And I'm sure that won't change when Vince is gone. An Evolution main event at WMXXX, featuring a dude in his mid-40's who hasn't wrestled in four years and isn't <em>that</em> big a star, especially in comparison to recent Mania part timers like Rock and Brock? That's got HHH written all over it IMO.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demondragonking Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Considering that HHH runs NXT and it is consistently the best wrestling show every week, I personally cant wait for Vince to go away</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I firmly believe that Vince won't go away until he's in the ground. It'll be a sad day when that happens for sure, but the man has lost touch with things, IMO.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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