ampulator Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Wow... I just caught Cena's promo on Rock from Monday on youtube.... I don't really care what anyone says... He burned him pretty good. Can't wait to see Rock try to top it, lol. This could be pretty entertaining if they keep it up (never have to have a match, just do these promo's on each other). It felt like Cena of old... and that's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 There is one very simple answer for this. Neither Barrett nor Sheamus has panned out on how they hoped they will pan out. Long Answer: Barrett is clearly not ready in the ring, even though e has good mic skills and charisma, and Sheamus is coming along nicely along the mic, but the fans just don't seem to care about him. Well, I shouldn't say that... he's more misbooked than anything. The WWE alone is to blame for them not being bigger than they are right now, for doing their pushes half-heartedly. Had they booked Sheamus as the monster consistently, he would have been over now. Had they given Barrett a win against Cena in singles competition, instead of letting Cena take out 7 man all by himself, he could have been somewhere now. Maybe not as far as Sheamus could have been, but that's why they could make it a 3-way between Undertaker, Kane and Barrett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Sheamus still has Main Event written all over him. I don't care much for many of the brawlers (Kane etc.) but I've never been disappointed with his matches. They should turn Drew face and have them fued. They've worked together for years before they joined WWE and could put on some fast and furious matches. Barrett just needs to add 2 good moves to his stock-standard arsenal and he could be main event quality. For Mania they should make the Heavyweight Title match a fatal fourway - Edge v Del Rio v Rey v Christian. Del Rio to win against 3 men who don't like him. That would surely get him over as a main eventer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 For Mania they should make the Heavyweight Title match a fatal fourway - Edge v Del Rio v Rey v Christian. Del Rio to win against 3 men who don't like him. That would surely get him over as a main eventer. It would also get him over as a babyface if he's facing three opponents at once who don't like him. And he's not ready for the babyface turn or even a hint of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linsolv Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 The WWE alone is to blame for them not being bigger than they are right now, for doing their pushes half-heartedly. Had they booked Sheamus as the monster consistently, he would have been over now. Had they given Barrett a win against Cena in singles competition, instead of letting Cena take out 7 man all by himself, he could have been somewhere now. Maybe not as far as Sheamus could have been, but that's why they could make it a 3-way between Undertaker, Kane and Barrett. Someone get this man a beer. Couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Just watched NXT. No reason to keep watching it with Bateman out. The other two aren't worth ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eayragt Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hopefully WWE will have 'H and 'Taker face (and defeat) Sheamus and Barrett in the build up to 'Mania. I'm all for Sheamus defeating Danielson (sorry) at 'Mania to give him the go of a solid mid-title run. As for Barrett - not really sure where he goes from here. Damned, moving him to Smackdown really did stall his momentum, didn't it? Still, maybe equally he could get a midcard title reign on Smackdown by taking on Kofi. Nothing wrong with a midcard title reign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Just watched NXT. No reason to keep watching it with Bateman out. The other two aren't worth ****. Reply With Quote Johnny Curtis has got some good moves in the ring and he's a likeable babyface. I don't mind him winning NXT. Brodus has some potential but with 2 heel stables there won't be much room for him in the WWE. But they should team Bateman and Bryan together as a tag team for a good period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 On a totally unrelated note: - WWE and CMLL both have press conferences scheduled tomorrow in Mexico City, and one or both are expected to have to do with Mistico. Jim Ross is in Mexico for the press conference which is being taped, possibly for Raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 On a totally unrelated note: You know, I sort of said this before: WWE was heading towards more Lucha Libre. Sports Entertainment might not fit inside Lucha Libre, but Lucha Libre fits inside Sports Entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I like the idea of adding lucha libre to the WWE product. While TNA has multiple womens matches WWE can bring in lucha libre. WWE>TNA in that aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Except Vince hates Lucha to the point that he doesn't think there's such a thing as a good Lucha Libre match. Any Lucha-style stuff that Mistico might do will eventually be 'educated' out of him until he learns the 'correct' way to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Except Vince hates Lucha to the point that he doesn't think there's such a thing as a good Lucha Libre match. Any Lucha-style stuff that Mistico might do will eventually be 'educated' out of him until he learns the 'WWE' way to work while on steroids. Just messing around with your original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoNdOn Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hopefully WWE will have 'H and 'Taker face (and defeat) Sheamus and Barrett in the build up to 'Mania. I'm all for Sheamus defeating Danielson (sorry) at 'Mania to give him the go of a solid mid-title run. As for Barrett - not really sure where he goes from here. Damned, moving him to Smackdown really did stall his momentum, didn't it? Still, maybe equally he could get a midcard title reign on Smackdown by taking on Kofi. Nothing wrong with a midcard title reign. I like the idea of Barrett with the IC strap, but not too thrilled about the prospect of Sheamus winning the US title. I'm hoping DB is in the money in the bank match at mania, that is assuming they are going to have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Just messing around with your original post. Except Vince has also openly admitting to finding Cena's current gimmick and character is stupid. On RAW, Live, no less. He also admitted he liked money, which is why he didn't care THAT much in the end. If it makes vince money, I don't think it will hamper his tastes much. And look at Rey. It makes him money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 If it makes vince money, I don't think it will hamper his tastes much. And look at Rey. It makes him money. Meh...I don't know how much 'lucha' you can add. The biggest obstacle is still that the E is a sports-entertainment product and many of lucha's biggest names - including Mistico - aren't great at cutting promos and some aren't exactly great at speaking English. It'll be a tough transition, but Mistico is an amazing talent so I really hope for the best for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Meh...I don't know how much 'lucha' you can add. The biggest obstacle is still that the E is a sports-entertainment product and many of lucha's biggest names - including Mistico - aren't great at cutting promos and some aren't exactly great at speaking English. It'll be a tough transition, but Mistico is an amazing talent so I really hope for the best for him. Hopefully his run in the WWE is more successful than Ultimo Dragons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hopefully his run in the WWE is more successful than Ultimo Dragons. Please don't remind me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 When Ultimo Dragon came to the WWE I was so excited. He was awesome! Then they didn't use him or push him. Really sad but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 When Ultimo Dragon came to the WWE I was so excited. He was awesome! Then they didn't use him or push him. Really sad but oh well. Ultimo and Mistico are incredibly similar...little to no English, promos aren't their strong suit, smallish, cruiser weight style wrestlers who might not fit the WWE's idea of ringwork... That's why I have very tempered hopes fo MIstico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Ultimo was/is a great psychologist though and can make almost anyone look good. I don't know why they didn't even at least utilize that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Meh...I don't know how much 'lucha' you can add. The biggest obstacle is still that the E is a sports-entertainment product and many of lucha's biggest names - including Mistico - aren't great at cutting promos and some aren't exactly great at speaking English. It'll be a tough transition, but Mistico is an amazing talent so I really hope for the best for him. I'll say this again - Vince's utimate goal is the bottom line... money. If it makes him money, he'll do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Ultimo was/is a great psychologist though and can make almost anyone look good. I don't know why they didn't even at least utilize that... You seriously don't know why the E didn't try to better utilizea guy's whose strongest attribute was his in-ring work? Did you see how Dean Malenko's WWE run went? I'll say this again - Vince's utimate goal is the bottom line... money. If it makes him money, he'll do it. Agreed. But based on the product, and the way they present their workers, I think that it's a Big IF that Mistico hits it big. I hope I'm wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 You seriously don't know why the E didn't try to better utilizea guy's whose strongest attribute was his in-ring work? Did you see how Dean Malenko's WWE run went? Agreed. But based on the product, and the way they present their workers, I think that it's a Big IF that Mistico hits it big. I hope I'm wrong though But I'm not talking about Mistico. I'm talking about Lucha Libre. Fititng Sports Entertainment within Lucha Libre is not easy task, yes. But the reverse... isn't so true. Sports Entertainment is a pretty flexible product. If Vince can add "ECW" and "Attitude" into his squeaky clean "Sports Entertainment", he can certainly add some Lucha Libre into it... I argue that he already has, if not at a huge amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 You seriously don't know why the E didn't try to better utilizea guy's whose strongest attribute was his in-ring work? Did you see how Dean Malenko's WWE run went? Well yeah, same with Lance Storm and quite a few others. Its just frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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