HansLanda11 Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 My friend and I usually throw in half and half for each UFC PPV and watch it together but this month he doesn't want to and I don't blame him. He's more of an old school UFC guy so he's not too impressed with this card and I have to say, neither am I. It's kind of funny because the reason we might still get it is because of the Yvel vs. Dos Santos match but who knows if it will even go past the first round. Is the next one after this worth it? It's probably going to be a snoozefest with Couture fighting his old boring wrestling style against Coleman who had no cardio is the Rua fight. By the looks of it the next PPV I might buy is Velasquez and Big Nog which to me is an awesome fight. Is it just me and my friend that feel this way or are we alone on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 I'd pay $50 for Hazelett vs. Daley alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda11 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ACCBiggz" data-cite="ACCBiggz" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25658" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd pay $50 for Hazelett vs. Daley alone.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've only seen that one Daley fight and he did look really good but do you think it's co-main event worthty in terms of name value?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 <p>I'm not one to ask about name value on cards because I think that's the number one most moronic reason to purchase any card. Yes, I understand it helps casual viewers identify with a fighter. But I watch good fights, period. I'm not going to not purchase a card simply because someone without name value is fighting. Then again, as a "hardcore" fans the likes of Paul Daley, Hazelett, and others do have value to us.</p><p> </p><p> Bottom line, name value means jack to me. I don't pay for names, I pay for fights.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda11 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 <p>I'm the same way but my friend, not so much. He only wants to see people he's heard of fight and I can't blame him because I used to be the same way. I try to explain to him that you have to watch these guys older fights before you decide you don't want to see Evans vs. Silva. I mean the guys have two losses between them. But yeah, he's just a casual viewer and I'm definately more than that. I really do want to see the Daley fight but I think it would have been much better suited for a Fight Night or something... but that's just my opinion. </p><p> </p><p> This is off-topic but who was Daley supposed to fight because it was changed to Hazelett? I can't remember for the life of me.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Carlos Condit. And Daley wants to fight him after this fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda11 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 Condit is overrated and should have lost that one fight to that strong looking kid.... (checking sherdog, I can never think of their names).... Jake Ellenberger <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Ellenberger is on 108 as well, prelims so it's possible they show his fight. Kampmann vs. Volkman may be shown, and Lauzon vs. Miller hopefully will be shown. The other main card bout that should be quality is Lauzon vs. Stout. Ludwig/Miller should have been prelimmed in favor of Lauzon/Miller or Kampmann/Volkmann in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda11 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 I hope Lauzon comes back as good as he was before because it would be a shame if he didn't... I love watching this guy fight... the more we talk about this card the more I'm thinking about just buying it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 <p>We'll the cards are 'free' in the UK anyway (well, they're on ESPN which costs about £10-13 (about $17) per month - some TV packages bundle it it though) so I don't have to make that choice. </p><p> </p><p> If I did, then yes, there's going to be soe great fight on this card. Like others have said, Daley vs Hazelett has all the makings of a classic. I really like Ludwig and used to go to the same gym as Yvel in Holland. The main event should be a quality fight too. </p><p> </p><p> I often find that its these cards that lose all the big fights (108, 85) or don't get them in the first place (95) that turn out to be the best. At the end of the day I'd rather see a battle on the prelims than a boring main event. </p><p> </p><p> UFC 95 is the absolute prime exampe of a diamond in the rough.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda11 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brashleyholland" data-cite="brashleyholland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25658" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>We'll the cards are 'free' in the UK anyway (well, they're on ESPN which costs about £10-13 (about $17) per month - some TV packages bundle it it though) so I don't have to make that choice. <p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I didn't know that... now I'm jealous.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I'm going to focus on the second part of your post, hating on UFC 109. Two of the greatest heavyweights of all time, and you're not going to tune in?!? Couture/Coleman is monu-effing-mental! I cannot wait to watch these two guys grapple, clinch, and dirty box the hell out of each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda11 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Wade" data-cite="Wade" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25658" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm going to focus on the second part of your post, hating on UFC 109. Two of the greatest heavyweights of all time, and you're not going to tune in?!? Couture/Coleman is monu-effing-mental! I cannot wait to watch these two guys grapple, clinch, and dirty box the hell out of each other.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I just think that if Couture fights like he did in his last fight against Vera it's going to be boring. Just my opinion.</p><p> </p><p> I'll probably wait and watch it the next day for free.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tag01 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 If I was going to be anywhere near a television I'd get it. I love watching Hazlett fight. I love watching Cigano fight too, and I'm really intrigued with his matchup with Yvel. that one has the potential to be incredibly exciting and incredibly short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaceSmashingFu Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ACCBiggz" data-cite="ACCBiggz" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25658" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm not one to ask about name value on cards because I think that's the number one most moronic reason to purchase any card. Yes, I understand it helps casual viewers identify with a fighter. But I watch good fights, period. I'm not going to not purchase a card simply because someone without name value is fighting. Then again, as a "hardcore" fans the likes of Paul Daley, Hazelett, and others do have value to us.<p> </p><p> Bottom line, name value means jack to me. I don't pay for names, I pay for fights.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Been saying the same thing for a long time myself actually, thats a really good post ACCBiggz.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Nope. I honestly can't believe they're putting such a card on PPV. I will watch the prelims on Spike though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise22 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I'm going to focus on the second part of your post, hating on UFC 109. Two of the greatest heavyweights of all time, and you're not going to tune in?!? Couture/Coleman is monu-effing-mental! I cannot wait to watch these two guys grapple, clinch, and dirty box the hell out of each other. 5-10yrs ago....yes. now? not so much. coleman will gas, mostly up against the cage, holding each other up. fight will be quite boring in my opinion. couture by decision. This is a prime example of "name" fights being overated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise22 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 as far as buying this card, i will be. i buy each one, regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise22 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Nope. I honestly can't believe they're putting such a card on PPV. I will watch the prelims on Spike though. the card isnt anything near what it was supposed to be. injuries have killed it. the "cursed card" as its been called. i also read it was not logistically possible or as simple as saying "we will make it free" in lieu of the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Yes, that's just a fans pipe dream that they can. Regardless, it's still a very solid card with multiple fights that could bring the house down. UFC 108 even injured Joe Silva, torn MCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 5-10yrs ago....yes. now? not so much. coleman will gas, mostly up against the cage, holding each other up. fight will be quite boring in my opinion. couture by decision. This is a prime example of "name" fights being overated. This is the wrestling equivalent of HBK vs. Sting. This is huge. Is either fighter in their prime? Positively not. But these are two legends, two all-time greats, two HOFers, getting in the cage and throwing down. If that doesn't get you hyped up, I don't know what will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 This is the wrestling equivalent of HBK vs. Sting. This is huge. Is either fighter in their prime? Positively not. But these are two legends, two all-time greats, two HOFers, getting in the cage and throwing down. If that doesn't get you hyped up, I don't know what will. Exactly. I'm under no illusions that this is going to be 'Fight of the Year' or even 'Fight of the Night'. In all honesty I think it's going to be fought at a fairly pedestrian pace. Coleman will gas, Couture will put him on the fence and try to get him to the ground. Rinse and repeat for three rounds. But the quality of the fight isn't the point here. Am I right in thinking that this is first time to current HOF members have fought? Thats pretty big. I can see why newer MMA fans are bemoaning this main event. When you think about it, a lot of people will have only seen Coutures losses to Lesnar, Nog and maybe Chuck Liddell. He's not exactly been excitement personified in his recent wins. They'll have only seen Coleman looking horrible against Rua and Bonnar. For us old-timers though, it holds a different significance. This is one of those bouts everyone used to talk about. It's two of the UFC's original tournement champions, two of the most significant wrestlers the sport has ever seen finaly locking horns. It's nostalgia at it's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I feel the same exact way.. Some of the newer fans, or simply some of the fans that haven't poured through the history of the sport, probably don't get it. This would be more epic of Coleman was ripped and Couture had hair, but this is 2010. Those days are gone. I'm looking forward to sitting back, opening a fresh beer and watching two men who have put their bodies on the line to entertain me for roughly 30 years get in the Octagon and go at it. Definitely one of the fights I'm most looking forward to, and not because I think it's going to be FOTN quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_w_w Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Will watch it 108, as usual, with my brother-in-law and nephews. Sadly though, the fiance wants to turn off Showtime, now that the current season of Dexter has ended. Probably going to miss the Diaz/Zaromskis match, since the relatives only really get together to watch the UFC And yeah, absolutely looking forward to Coleman/Couture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Will watch it 108, as usual, with my brother-in-law and nephews. Sadly though, the fiance wants to turn off Showtime, now that the current season of Dexter has ended. Probably going to miss the Diaz/Zaromskis match, since the relatives only really get together to watch the UFC And yeah, absolutely looking forward to Coleman/Couture. Convince her to go for one more month - That fight should be amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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