justtxyank Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 <p>So some delays...</p><p> </p><p> 1) Just discovered wrestling data.com which is HUGE</p><p> 2) The data is running really slow after about a year so I'm going to trim the database. I'll probably delete some of the indy workers that are in the data that never worked for any promotion that will be in the game</p><p> 3) I can't decide on how to handle certain workers that are supposed to open a promotion. I want feedback on one in particular...</p><p> </p><p> On the current release SMW is open even though this doesn't reflect reality. I decided NOT to have SMW open when the game starts for the build I'm working on now. The problem is that in every sim I've done, Jim Cornette NEVER becomes available to open it. Thoughts?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixnitro Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Is there a narrative that could reflect him leaving the current company he is in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 <p>You could have Bob Armstrong as a potential founder. If I'm not mistaken, didn't he help quite a bit backstage for Smoky Mountain?</p><p> </p><p> Also, for trimming your database, if you want, you can go ahead and delete the workers from my Dallas add-on if you don't think there's any use for any of them. I still have the add-on database anyway, so all I have to do is import them if I really want them.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Couldn't you just make founders preferred, and not mandatory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 <p>Starting up SMW 8 months before it really opened might be the best bet. </p><p> </p><p> Cornette ran the territory, but didn't Rick Rubin, the music producer, finance it? Rubin could be a potential owner in the game if you wanted to have it open in September of '91. I was also thinking of making Cornette a freelancer but worker loyalty isn't turned on in America.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Oyaji" data-cite="Oyaji" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Starting up SMW 8 months before it really opened might be the best bet. <p> </p><p> Cornette ran the territory, but didn't Rick Rubin, the music producer, finance it? Rubin could be a potential owner in the game if you wanted to have it open in September of '91. I was also thinking of making Cornette a freelancer but worker loyalty isn't turned on in America.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Freelancer status still applies in America even if loyalty is turned off.</p><p> </p><p> Stan Lane was one of the founders of SMW wasn't he? What about having him as a potential founder as well.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beejus Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 <p>This kinda goes back to the discussion in the suggestions thread about people who wanted to have Owen Hart die as a narrative. </p><p> </p><p> The question I ask is would Cornette have made SMW if he would have stayed in WCW?</p><p> </p><p> One way to set this up would be to give Cornette tension or hatred with whoever is running WCW, and make it so his contract runs out at the time of Smokey's inception. That way, his contract runs out and he leaves them, opening him up to start SMW. Which would work fine for the rest of the world, but would kind of suck for the WCW player who wants to keep the MX and their manager. But it would achieve the purpose.</p><p> </p><p> It's kinda like making it so Ric Flair definitely leaves WCW in the summer, though.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This kinda goes back to the discussion in the suggestions thread about people who wanted to have Owen Hart die as a narrative. <p> </p><p> The question I ask is would Cornette have made SMW if he would have stayed in WCW?</p><p> </p><p> One way to set this up would be to give Cornette tension or hatred with whoever is running WCW, and make it so his contract runs out at the time of Smokey's inception. That way, his contract runs out and he leaves them, opening him up to start SMW. Which would work fine for the rest of the world, but would kind of suck for the WCW player who wants to keep the MX and their manager. But it would achieve the purpose.</p><p> </p><p> It's kinda like making it so Ric Flair definitely leaves WCW in the summer, though.</p></div></blockquote><p> He had already quit WCW by Halloween Havoc '90. I imagine the WWF snaps him up on a written contract if he doesn't start as owner of SMW.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 He's not part of WCW when the game world begins, but he has jobs as a color commentator for other promotions. He was still working between the time he left WCW and the time he started SMW, notably as the announcer for LPWA. As for Flair leaving WCW in the summer, if the user plays as WCW that is preventable as Jim Herd won't be in charge. If you play as the WWF he will definitely leave as that leaves Herd in charge of WCW. If you are in charge of WCW it's just going to be a bidding war that the WWF likely wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 <p>I think having potential founders is a good idea.</p><p> </p><p> 2nd choice would be just to have Cornette start them at the very beginning.</p><p> </p><p> May I ask if there is a narrative that has Ted Turner putting more money in WCW later on in the game? I'm assuming there is since that probably would have happened in any event?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think having potential founders is a good idea.<p> </p><p> 2nd choice would be just to have Cornette start them at the very beginning.</p><p> </p><p> May I ask if there is a narrative that has Ted Turner putting more money in WCW later on in the game? I'm assuming there is since that probably would have happened in any event?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I asked about that earlier and he strongly hinted it's in.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 <p>How is this coming along? Have you found a solution for Smoky Mountain?</p><p> </p><p> I'm going through other mods and trying to get a game started but none are as much fun as this one and there's not much point starting a new '91 game with a huge update pending. I just absolutely love the time frame as you get the big stars of the '80s still able to go and the up and comers of the '90s starting to break out. Not to mention an incredibly fine-tuned database! I knew the second I saw a Stan Hansen avatar I was in for good times.</p><p> </p><p> One piece of constructive criticism for not just this mod but pretty much all mods is the Mexico data could use some touching up. I'm no lucha expert, but from what I've seen, the majority of top tier luchadores are really excellent brawlers in addition to technicians. The hate-filled brawls, usually during hair/mask matches, are hard to pull off when most of them are in the 30-40% range in brawling skill. Also, some of the best technicians in this era were luchadores. I don't think I've ever seen a better technical match than Angel Azteca vs. El Dandy from 1990 (it's on youtube). Just incredible mat and submission wrestling. Who are we to doubt El Dandy? He was on fire at this time, putting on classic after classic.</p><p> </p><p> Does the board have a lucha libre expert?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toodarkmark Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 1993 is stalled right now. My wife had our first baby so I've been unable to even think about it. Because of the delay, I'll probably do a rework of 91 at some point and then move on from there. I havent gotten to the end of this entire thread, but congratulations on the baby! I love your 91 Mod, I really don't agree that WCW being at cult status, as I think it was bigger than that. I grew up in NYC, and every wrestling fan I ran into knew what WCW was. They were all programmed to love WWF, as was most of the nation, but people knew about it. I edit it anyways. But really Jusrtxyank, thanks for all your hard work. I've edited your Mod to reflect November 1989, and wanted to begin work on a 93 Mod. I will def troubleshoot 92 and 93 when you release them, as I have tons of the Apter mags and love http://www.cagematch.net/. BTW When you run Sims, do you just do a forward one year in a promotion that has no shows, like go a year ahead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 You just don't pick a promotion at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toodarkmark Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 You just don't pick a promotion at all. Right, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 <p>Yeah I just go unemployed and sim forward with full advance on.</p><p> </p><p> I'll stop the sim periodically to check the game world to make sure I see more of the trees and not just the forest. </p><p> </p><p> I am currently doing some stat reworking (discovered stamina too high for most of world which prompted me to fix that and some other things) and have added a few more workers. I don't want to put a timeline again since I missed the last two, but it's really close.</p><p> </p><p> I resolved SMW by having two other potential founders. It's an inelegant solution honestly because Cornette never gets involved despite the other two founders having strong positive relationships with him. </p><p> </p><p> I've done quite a few more narratives, mostly fluff. There are a few narratives that impact the game world, but none that I think a user would care about changing. Just popping a few workers in the early years. Narratives will die down after 1993 or so still because of the organic nature of the game world obviously. </p><p> </p><p> I've already reworked some of the lucha scene, but of course, if there is ANYONE that is comfortable with it I'd love to have them take a hammer to it. My lucha knowledge is limited to what I can read in magazines and the few matches I can grab on tape. Most of the lucha work is stuff that has passed from mod to mod. Someone somewhere did it. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Keep up the good work! Thanks for checking in and letting us know you're still working on it. I know I can be patient knowing I'm getting a better mod so take your time. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Keep up the good work! Thanks for checking in and letting us know you're still working on it. I know I can be patient knowing I'm getting a better mod so take your time. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Agreed. Thanks so much for your hard work, justtxyank.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Oh and just so you know Justtxyank - I would help you on something but I know almost nothing outside of WWF/E, WCW & TNA...which I'm sure you have covered pretty well yourself. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneDragon2k7 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 was wondering why Prime Time Wrestling & Wrestling Challenge are not active shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 <p>The next release does have a change to active shows, not sure off the top of my head which ones though.</p><p> </p><p> But, keep in mind that it's hard to simulate the WWF having shows on the air that were just meshed together cuts of previously taped live events.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="InsaneDragon2k7" data-cite="InsaneDragon2k7" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>was wondering why Prime Time Wrestling & Wrestling Challenge are not active shows</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Anything more than 1 active B show is pretty much overkill unless the company has a brand split and more than 1 A show.</p><p> </p><p> It's an area where you simply have to compromise with reality in order to fit the game engine.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofGustav Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Please delete this post. Now i know that a new version has been launched. >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Fenoli Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Anyone have this? I wanna play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 My apologies for not getting your requests done sooner. WWE Network has been a bit of a beeyotch this week, though I wonder how much of it is the network itself, and how much of it was the last Flash update fouling things up. Anywhere, here's that pic of Piper you wanted. There was nothing I could do about the bottom corners since the 1992 Royal Rumble was the best show I could capture a picture of Piper looking goofy: http://i.imgur.com/0LPXu9M.jpg I haven't take a screen shot of Macho Man at Starrcade '94 yet because so far, the show hasn't been as high of quality as I would like it. As for Flair, haven't had a chance to watch any WCW '93 shows yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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