justtxyank Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Well I'm about to put some final touches on 1991 and will be starting a new mod. I will either do: January 1993: Monsters, Inc. or January 1995: Hold on to your butts Looking for feedback. In case you are wondering about the names, 93 is a play off Vader and Yokozuna dominating their respective companies and 95 is a play off Sam Jackson in Jurassic park when they restarted the power. 95 was sort of the restart to the wrestling world with tv. Both mods will continue to use the organic picture files associated with 1991 and Hive's awesome 94 mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I voted for 1993. I would LOVE the opportunity to rebook the Royal Rumble and see if I can get Hogan to pass the torch to Bret Hart. I can't make any promises(don't want there to be disappointment), but I might be able to help with the GWF after watching some of the old Global shows on ESPN Classic(and some of them were from January 1993). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I also voted for 1993, because i would really love to book in the end of the Golden Era and also change what happens in the WWF, because it was one of the worst years of it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungner Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Also voted 1993, as I already have a '95 mod... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAvsWWF Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Would like to see a 1993 mod as well it really was the lowest point wrestling ever got too in my opinion with even the WWF having only a bunch of big names and mostly new talent which weren't well developed. WCW was a joke at this point I'd say a high cult sized promotion at best but take away Sting, Steamboat and Vader and they don't one legit star so it'd be really fun to try and build the wrestling world back up. All the great Japan and Mexico cruiser weights would be available plus WCW had the working relationship with New Japan so Chono and Muta etc were coming over for the big events, despite none of these guys being over in America WCW could have turned into a legit promotion and changed their style to more like Japan at this point. Hope 1993 gets voted:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="NWAvsWWF" data-cite="NWAvsWWF" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36704" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> WCW was a joke at this point I'd say a high cult sized promotion at best but take away Sting, Steamboat and Vader and they don't one legit star so it'd be really fun to try and build the wrestling world back up. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You can't really say "they had no big stars except for these three stars". You could do the same in the WWF by the time 1993 comes along the WWF's biggest stars where Bret Hart, Yokozuna and what Razor Ramon or the Undertaker. I dn't think there is any difference in popularity between Sting, Steamboat and Vader as there is between Hart, Yoko and Taker. Not in 1993.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36704" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You can't really say "they had no big stars except for these three stars". You could do the same in the WWF by the time 1993 comes along the WWF's biggest stars where Bret Hart, Yokozuna and what Razor Ramon or the Undertaker. I dn't think there is any difference in popularity between Sting, Steamboat and Vader as there is between Hart, Yoko and Taker. Not in 1993.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hmmm...</p><p> </p><p> That's an interesting question. I'd say it's the undercard that makes the popularity differences. I'd say the typical wrestling fan knew who Sting, Steamboat and Vader were, but the rest of the card for WCW was pretty low in overness. WWF's roster with guys like DiBiase, Beefcake, IRS, Tatanka, Shawn Michaels, Rick Martel, etc. were all more popular than most WCW workers. </p><p> </p><p> WCW was on the verge of death after Flair left in 91. </p><p> </p><p> Also, Hogan comes back to the WWF in February of that year so that's a big one.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAvsWWF Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36704" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You can't really say "they had no big stars except for these three stars". You could do the same in the WWF by the time 1993 comes along the WWF's biggest stars where Bret Hart, Yokozuna and what Razor Ramon or the Undertaker. I dn't think there is any difference in popularity between Sting, Steamboat and Vader as there is between Hart, Yoko and Taker. Not in 1993.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just my opinion but like Justxyank said asides from Steamboat, Vader and Sting they didn't have any one above a midcard level in terms of TEW popularity, people like Ron Simmons, Steve Williams, Dustin Rhodes etc just weren't that over despite being positioned high on the card.</p><p> </p><p> As for WWF there you named four top guys, Taker, Yoko, Bret Hart, Razor...yeah and now add Ric Flair, Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan to that list who are arguably the three biggest stars in wrestling working for the WWF at this time. Also Lex Luger was starting to become quite a name in '93, that added in with the packed midcard of talent who were actually pretty well known like Perfect, Beefcake, Michaels, Dibiase, Steiner's, Tatanka and you have a much much better roster than WCW's.</p><p> </p><p> If you relate WCW's roster at this time to TEW's popularity scale you'll see that the bulk of wrestlers performing in late 92 are D's and E's in popularity in America, the names like Sting, Vader, Steamboat were saving the promotion from losing even more of their fan base that they'd lost in the past few years:</p><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starrcade#1992" rel="external nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starrcade#1992</a></p><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Havoc#1992" rel="external nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Havoc#1992</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beejus Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 <p>92 really wouldn't be a bad thing to see either, with the Dangerous Alliance as WCW's big draw... but I digress. Out of the choices, I guess it'll likely be 1993 getting made. One thing I will say is that I hope you'll make it so WCW can get Flair back or if someone's playing as the WWF they can keep him, maybe by a bad relationship to Vince or Hogan. The best part of a 92/93 mod is always getting to push Rick Rude in WCW, and 1993 gives you not only Rude but also the Hollywood Blonds right away.</p><p> </p><p> I used to play the hell out of the August 93 mod from TEW05, so it'd be like getting back into that in a way. First order of business was always - ALWAYS - restructuring the Horsemen, and that would become my WarGames, as the new and improved Four Horsemen of Flair, Arn, Benoit, and Owen Hart (because the WWF would always release him immediately) would face the rejected Horsemen, typically a team of Roma, Ole, Windham, and Tully, who would turn on them to become the JJ Dillon-style manager/occasional wrestler of the new Horsemen crew.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan93 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I've been hoping for a '93 mod, simply because I think it would be awesome to book Monday Night Raw from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnbill5000 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Voted 1993. I will gladly take either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I voted for 1993. I would LOVE the opportunity to rebook the Royal Rumble and see if I can get Hogan to pass the torch to Bret Hart. I can't make any promises(don't want there to be disappointment), but I might be able to help with the GWF after watching some of the old Global shows on ESPN Classic(and some of them were from January 1993). You mean I'm not the only one watching those? (Watching Raven using a handsome playboy gimmick is extremely bizarre...) On topic: '93 gets my vote as well. At one time I had what I thought was a pretty good story idea for a '93 diary (which I'm now hoping to incorporate into my Golden Age diary in some fashion.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 You mean I'm not the only one watching those? (Watching Raven using a handsome playboy gimmick is extremely bizarre...) On topic: '93 gets my vote as well. At one time I had what I thought was a pretty good story idea for a '93 diary (which I'm now hoping to incorporate into my Golden Age diary in some fashion.) And now you know where some of the local guys I've included in Main Event such as Kit Carson, Brandon Baxter and Doyle King come from. Looking back, it is hard to believe that Raven was Scott Anthony(and later Scotty Flamingo in WCW and Johnny Polo in WWF), but oddly enough, seeing the GWF on Saturday nights on a local TV affiliate(the show that was taped for those who didn't have cable and couldn't see it on ESPN) was my first exposure to guys such as Raven, Sean Waltman(Lightning Kid), the Patriot and Jerry Lynn. And it's funny to hear JBL(John Hawk) doing commentary on those shows and not sounding too different than now, other than he was portraying a face then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofGustav Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 <p>Voted 1993.</p><p> </p><p> In that year, you had great characters such as Razor Ramon, Tatanka, Mr. Perfect, Bret Hart, The Undertaker, Doink, Shawn Michaels, also, you had underrated characters such as Ludvig Borga and Adam Bomb.</p><p> </p><p> In WCW, obviously after Hogan left the WWF, it was time WCW to take the chance to make money with the Hulkster, but they also have their loyal Sting.</p><p> </p><p> Also, i voted 1993, because if you play WCW, you can avoid commiting the most embarassing moment.... <strong>The Shockmaster!</strong> and give Fred Ottman a better gimmick.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 And 1995 was quite the worst year ever for the WWF, with the worst PPV ever (KOTR) too. So 1993 is going to win this easily, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofGustav Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36704" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And 1995 was quite the worst year ever for the WWF, with the worst PPV ever (KOTR) too. So 1993 is going to win this easily,</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Don't want to think about it.... many mistakes.... Mantaur for example... and Xanta Klaus.</p><p> </p><p> Also, 1995, was the beggining of the Monday Night Wars.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordofGustav" data-cite="LordofGustav" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36704" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Don't want to think about it.... many mistakes.... Mantaur for example...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not even Jim Cornette could get him over as his manager! <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofGustav Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36704" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not even Jim Cornette could get him over as his manager! <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> (Palmface)</p><p> </p><p> And to think that Harvey Wippleman managed wrestlers with no so good gimmicks. (With the exception of Sid Justice and Adam Bomb, who were cool characters <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordofGustav" data-cite="LordofGustav" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36704" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Voted 1993.<p> </p><p> In that year, you had great characters such as Razor Ramon, Tatanka, Mr. Perfect, Bret Hart, The Undertaker, Doink, Shawn Michaels, also, you had underrated characters such as Ludvig Borga and Adam Bomb.</p><p> </p><p> In WCW, obviously after Hogan left the WWF, it was time WCW to take the chance to make money with the Hulkster, but they also have their loyal Sting.</p><p> </p><p> Also, i voted 1993, because if you play WCW, you can avoid commiting the most embarassing moment.... <strong>The Shockmaster!</strong> and give Fred Ottman a better gimmick.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah 93 is a good year. I think 95 is underrated as I really like WCW that year, even all the WrestleCrap. </p><p> </p><p> But we'll see. The poll is neck and neck. It could break either way.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 <p>1993. Really when I started paying close attention. I remember watching the 1990 Royal Rumble and PPV's but was too young to really get it.</p><p> </p><p> 1993 was also when I realized there were other promotions besides the WWF. This should be fun!! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaySticLe of YouTube Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 <p>Hey, I liked Mantaur! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> (but seriously, I still have the 1993 Royal Rumble on VHS, so I voted for 1993)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofGustav Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="JaySticLe of YouTube" data-cite="JaySticLe of YouTube" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36704" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hey, I liked Mantaur! <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> (but seriously, I still have the 1993 Royal Rumble on VHS, so I voted for 1993)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, i'm not going to argue the fact that while certain gimmicks didn't work, at least they had following :3</p><p> </p><p> Also, because of the Gimmick Battle Royal in Wrestlemania X7, of such gimmicks as The Gobbledy Gooker, The Goon, Duke Droese, Hillbilly Jim.... that motivated me to learn more of the history of WWF....</p><p> </p><p> And to this day.... it will be an honor to recreate the story of the WWF by 1993 (or 1995) and re-write history if it's necessary. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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