Lucas Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Using a Real World Mod at the moment and looking at the PPV providers. Noticing that some of the information is incorrect - Setanta as a PPV provider for the UK, which is no longer the case (or ever was). There is only Sky, which is likely to be the only 'true' PPV provider as I understand it. So I'm looking to clean up the data with the correct data for my game, and the TV Providers too (I notice ITV is listed, but there are probably others in the UK that could take on wrestling, like BT Sport). Some questions I have:- Where would the line be drawn for PPV Carriers in TEW? Would & should Internet media providers be used as PPV Carriers, or TV Providers or not at all? Anybody know of good lists I could get of providers for TV & PPVs so I could sort out the data for a more realistic experience? My problem is that it seems a little easy to get TV deals in TEW and I'd like to make this more realistic before I start off my long-term save. Any thoughts, information and suggestions welcome. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 <p>If you are looking at RisingStorms, I've cleaned up the ppv companies and tv companies big time for the next release. </p><p> </p><p> However, if you are from the UK, I would love some help cleaning up the UK situation.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 For clarification, NTL and Telewest are basically cable companies in UK, correct? Not PPV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37544" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For clarification, NTL and Telewest are basically cable companies in UK, correct? Not PPV?</div></blockquote><p> They were cable providers. I probably wouldn't include them in a mod since they didn't offer any PPV (they used Sky Box Office) and didn't have any dedicated networks like Sky.</p><p> </p><p> Basically the only real PPV we have had here in the UK is Sky Box Office. Unless I've missed something?</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: Actually I just remembered that NTL had a PPV service. Can't remember what it was called. But it basically showed whatever Sky Box Office was showing, it was just their way of getting Box Office on their provider. So Sky still took the majority of the money, I'd imagine NTL got a tiny cut. If you want to include NTL though maybe call it NTL Digital?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 <p>Cool. </p><p> </p><p> What's hard to simulate in TEW is that American wrestling companies can make their ppvs available for free to other countries through regular television.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 <p>It's BT Sport (3 channels, BT Sport 1 & 2 & ESPN) and Sky Sports, specifically that are the main Sports channels in the UK. There are other channels as well in the UK and Ireland: </p><p> </p><p> Ireland would have at least Setanta. </p><p> UK & Ireland has these as Entertainment channels in the UK: Syfy (UK version), Comedy Central, MTV, Bravo and Challenge* (and possibly Dave) on cable TV, </p><p> ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 (potentially BBC3)on public broadcasting (free) tv </p><p> </p><p> *Challenge is owned by Sky, so may not be relevant as they also have Sky Sports (3 channels worth of Sky Sports) </p><p> </p><p> Eurosport is pan-European (two channels), so I'd guess in TEW terms would cover all of those regions. For each of the individual European regions I am guessing each sub-region will have its own channels with bigger coverage (Sky Deutschland will cover Germany/Central Europe, for example, Sky Italia would be for Mediterranean) </p><p> </p><p> That's the info I have at the moment. Hopefully others can help too, as I'm still researching to sort mine out. Other than UK & Europe I'm struggling at the moment. </p><p> </p><p> and to answer your Q, it's the January version of the Real World Chronicles that I currently have, and it seems next month is likely the last one. Will have a look at yours as well <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RayW" data-cite="RayW" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37544" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They were cable providers. I probably wouldn't include them in a mod since they didn't offer any PPV (they used Sky Box Office) and didn't have any dedicated networks like Sky.<p> </p><p> Basically the only real PPV we have had here in the UK is Sky Box Office. Unless I've missed something?</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: Actually I just remembered that NTL had a PPV service. Can't remember what it was called. But it basically showed whatever Sky Box Office was showing, it was just their way of getting Box Office on their provider. So Sky still took the majority of the money, I'd imagine NTL got a tiny cut. If you want to include NTL though maybe call it NTL Digital?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> NTL is Virgin Media now (they rebranded to Virgin in 2007), which just duplicates Sky Box Office into its own set-top boxes. Personally I'd be hesistant to include this as from what I'm aware they don't offer their own content, just whatever Sky has.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37544" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Cool. <p> </p><p> What's hard to simulate in TEW is that American wrestling companies can make their ppvs available for free to other countries through regular television.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, TNA airs their PPV's on the same channel as Impact, for example. In the 1990's the majority of WWF shows weren't on PPV at all, some were on terrestrial TV. WCW didn't air their PPVs over here at all, until they moved from TNT to Bravo in the late 90's.</p><p> </p><p> What I would do is just not give those companies any deal in the UK. If we take the WWF for instance, they signed contracts over here to air Raw and SmackDown on Sky Sports, and Heat on Channel 4. Pay Per Views were split between the two. Now because the PPV's were on them channels, and it was part of the contract anyway, they didn't receive any extra income for those shows. So it wouldn't be like the companies in game are at a disadvantage.</p><p> </p><p> Then if we choose to get a PPV provider in the UK then we can contact Sky Sports and try and get one.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LucasWeatherby" data-cite="LucasWeatherby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37544" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>NTL is Virgin Media now (they rebranded to Virgin in 2007), which just duplicates Sky Box Office into its own set-top boxes. Personally I'd be hesistant to include this as from what I'm aware they don't offer their own content, just whatever Sky has.</div></blockquote><p> I was with Virgin until a couple years ago, as for live sport, they just use SBO. They do have their own 'on demand/anytime' service though. So yeah actually I'd not include it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerful_Fox Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 <p>Just reiterating what everyone else has said so far...</p><p> </p><p> <strong>PPV</strong></p><p> UK's only one is:</p><p> </p><p> Sky Box Office</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>TV</strong></p><p> The Channels that would show sports in general or already show wrestling in the UK (to my knowledge) are:</p><p> </p><p> Sky Sports 1 - </p><p> WWE (All Shows) - All of UK: Would be a large size</p><p> </p><p> Sky Sports 2 - </p><p> WWE (All Shows) - All of UK: Would be a large size</p><p> </p><p> Sky Sports 3 -</p><p> WWE (All Shows) - All of UK: Would be a large size</p><p> </p><p> Setanta Sports - </p><p> Ireland: Would be a small size</p><p> </p><p> BT Sport 1 -</p><p> All but Ireland: Maybe be medium size</p><p> </p><p> BT Sport 2 - </p><p> All but Ireland: Maybe be medium size</p><p> </p><p> Eurosport - </p><p> All of UK: Maybe be Medium size</p><p> </p><p> PickTV - </p><p> Various UK Indy shows - All but Ireland: Would be very small</p><p> </p><p> Challenge TV -</p><p> TNA (iMPACT and PPV's though it isn't a PPV Carrier) - All of UK: Would be medium</p><p> </p><p> ITV -</p><p> Rumours of showing All-Star again, used to show All-Star/Joint Promotions in the 80's - All of UK: Would be huge</p><p> </p><p> BBC 1 - </p><p> National TV Channel but not sport specific, would unlikely show wrestling: Would be huge</p><p> </p><p> BBC 2 -</p><p> National TV Channel but not sport specific, would unlikely show wrestling: Would be huge</p><p> </p><p> Channel 4 - </p><p> National TV Channel, ran some WWE PPV's in the late 90's/early 00's: Would be huge</p><p> </p><p> Channel 5 - </p><p> National TV Channel, ran some WCW shows in the late 90's/early 00's: Would be huge</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basmat01 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Powerful_Fox" data-cite="Powerful_Fox" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37544" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just reiterating what everyone else has said so far...<p> </p><p> <strong>PPV</strong></p><p> UK's only one is:</p><p> </p><p> Sky Box Office</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>TV</strong></p><p> The Channels that would show sports in general or already show wrestling in the UK (to my knowledge) are:</p><p> </p><p> Sky Sports 1 - </p><p> WWE (All Shows) - All of UK: Would be a large size</p><p> </p><p> Sky Sports 2 - </p><p> WWE (All Shows) - All of UK: Would be a large size</p><p> </p><p> Sky Sports 3 -</p><p> WWE (All Shows) - All of UK: Would be a large size</p><p> </p><p> Setanta Sports - </p><p> Ireland: Would be a small size</p><p> </p><p> BT Sport 1 -</p><p> All but Ireland: Maybe be medium size</p><p> </p><p> BT Sport 2 - </p><p> All but Ireland: Maybe be medium size</p><p> </p><p> Eurosport - </p><p> All of UK: Maybe be Medium size</p><p> </p><p> PickTV - </p><p> Various UK Indy shows - All but Ireland: Would be very small</p><p> </p><p> Challenge TV -</p><p> TNA (iMPACT and PPV's though it isn't a PPV Carrier) - All of UK: Would be medium</p><p> </p><p> ITV -</p><p> Rumours of showing All-Star again, used to show All-Star/Joint Promotions in the 80's - All of UK: Would be huge</p><p> </p><p> BBC 1 - </p><p> National TV Channel but not sport specific, would unlikely show wrestling: Would be huge</p><p> </p><p> BBC 2 -</p><p> National TV Channel but not sport specific, would unlikely show wrestling: Would be huge</p><p> </p><p> Channel 4 - </p><p> National TV Channel, ran some WWE PPV's in the late 90's/early 00's: Would be huge</p><p> </p><p> Channel 5 - </p><p> National TV Channel, ran some WCW shows in the late 90's/early 00's: Would be huge</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> thank you for these been looking at cleaning the TV/PPV sections for the 2003 mod.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Basmat01" data-cite="Basmat01" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37544" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>thank you for these been looking at cleaning the TV/PPV sections for the 2003 mod.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Do a quick Wikipedia search on each because they weren't all around in 2003. BT Sports and PickTV certainly wasn't. I'm not sure if in 2003 Setanta Sports was also aired in England or if that was later, around 2005-2007.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Powerful Fox, thank you for all that info. That will come in handy as I add TV Networks and PPV Carriers into my mod. I may have to make some adjustments to the size of some of the networks and carriers for gameplay purposes, but this is definitely a great starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 <p>Good work on the UK <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Filling mine in a bit more now, looking at Europe currently. The way I've broken it down is thus: </p><p> </p><p> Central Europe: Germany/Austria. Didn't include France TV Markets as they no longer have PPV. </p><p> </p><p> PPV: Sky Select </p><p> Channels: Sky Sports (size: Very Big), Eurosport (Medium) </p><p> </p><p> Meditteranian: Italy (there is Spain that comes under this area but to prevent a reghion getting bombarded with lots of channels from different countries IRL I'm just going with the main country for each region). </p><p> </p><p> PPV: Sky PrimaFilma (size: Very Big)</p><p> Channels: Sky Sport (size: Very Big), Eurosport (Medium), GXT (Medium, entertainment channel)</p><p> </p><p> Scandinavia: Sweden</p><p> PPV: C More</p><p> TV: ViaSat, Canal Digital are the two main companies serving Scandinavia. Need to research the channels a bit more but it's all on wiki/google.</p><p> </p><p> Eastern Europe: Russia</p><p> PPV: NTV Plus </p><p> Channels: Need to research. </p><p> </p><p> All other areas in my mod I'm looking at seem to have a decent amount of carriers for TV/PPV for the moment, but I'm gonna double check these are up to date,</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerful_Fox Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 No problem chaps. Happy to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriswok Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 UK you might want to consider Premier Sports BoxNation Primetime Which are extra subscription channels on Sky, and in the case of Primetime is a unique PPV service for sports. They're pretty small, but they are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Chriswok" data-cite="Chriswok" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37544" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>UK you might want to consider<p> </p><p> Premier Sports</p><p> BoxNation</p><p> Primetime</p><p> </p><p> Which are extra subscription channels on Sky, and in the case of Primetime is a unique PPV service for sports. They're pretty small, but they are there.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I actually forgot about Prime Time. Are they still about? I know they used to have PPV boxing and Strike Force.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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