Blackman Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 We badly need our version of the Heidenreich challenge, or whatever it's called nowadays in TEW. For the uninitiated: this is a management games challenge where you take a worker with mediocre (sometimes even bad) primary skills yet a great appeal and make him win matches against the odds, take the football team from across the street and hit the champions league, or - in this case - take an otherwise unremarkable fighter and propel him to the top of the p4p rankings. I suggest Wilson Franklin for the job (for no particular reason ), as it'll be hard enough getting someone into the Hall of Fame as opposed to TEW, where you have total control over wins, so a total can isn't an option (even though it's doable I guess). Franklin has the power and the lack of technical background while being marketable as he's quite intimidating so the overall appeal for the character is high. So if you want another type of challenge to keep the gameplay fresh: Get Franklin to the HoF before he retires. You achieve this by checking off the criteria listed below to get 100%. He's 29 at the start so you should still have enough time while still keeping the pressure to keep him active, though the negative factor here is his lack of preparation skill. It is however the HW division so many crazy booking choices are possible if you go to the right places. You won't have thàt much room for missing swings so you have to plan your roster to get him good, profitable matchups (opponents need to be world top20 HW's!!!). The guide: Belt in National organisation = 10% gain National defense = 11% gain Belt in International organisation = 12% gain International defense = 14% gain Top20 win = 6% Top20 win + finish = 10% He starts at 0% obviously, and the first four categories are capped at 49%, so he needs to score in three criteria at least to get the necessary 100% to complete the challenge. The best is imo to get to international and make him win the HW title by knocking out the champ. This is easier said than done, I'm afraid, but note that the challenge is not exclusive to GAMMA or any established company for that matter. It's obviously forbidden to strip fighters of titles unless they have a heavy injury, or to just hand him the title on a platter (well duh). Settings: * Fantasy Match Making: off * Training effectiveness: medium or lower User preferences: * Scouting/Fog of War is on * Autosave is on I will make the attempt in my next game, but that might take a while. Feel free to pick your own favorite targets and let's just have some fun with it. Post your progress here as much as you like. Try to keep it challenging people and avoid cheesy ways of getting it done by setting era settings to low and spawning a plethora of cans, pitting them together to make supercans and feed them to Franklin. It's not inventive nor fun, but do whatever you feel like. Sometimes the challenge ends up failing when things happen beyond your control. --------------------------- For those playing O+ and don't have Franklin: I'm still thinking of someone that can fill these shoes. Any suggestions are welcome. Currently I have Tina Chavez tagged with special treatment, so that would be a prime target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 For those playing O+ and don't have Franklin: I'm still thinking of someone that can fill these shoes. Any suggestions are welcome. Currently I have Tina Chavez tagged with special treatment, so that would be a prime target. Tess Wallin, Tina Chavez, and even the TEW alums (Arihyoshi, Chikanatsu, Quine, Tagawa, etc). EDIT: Are those numbers correct for HoF qualification? So a top 20 win with a finish is worth less than a non-finish win? Also, the cap you mention. Top 20 P4P or Top 10 in the world in a weight class. So a fighter could get into the Hall of Fame without ever winning a title? If so, looks like there is, well, hope for Hope Lehane in my game. She can't beat the champ (0-2 so far with one final fight planned but her skills are rapidly deteriorating) but the others in the top-10 are too skurred to face her ("I think Hope Lehane is a bit too big of a step up for me"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rone Rivendale Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 If it's the Kimbo Challange, why not use Big Magic? He is obviously based on Kimbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 If it's the Kimbo Challange, why not use Big Magic? He is obviously based on Kimbo. The problem is that when they are totally based on him, it becomes a difficult ordeal. Wilson Franklyn is also based on some to some degree, but actually is decent. Switched the numbers by accident, sorry for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I had already undertaken the challenge of getting Tess Wallin in without any title reigns. There's almost no chance she'll beat Pam but with Chikamatsu steeply declining, Flyweight might be a possibility. I have plans for the Featherweight title (and Kikuchi dropping it to Shauna Underwood for her HoF cementing run) so moving up's not likely. Need to go through my rosters and find someone who fits though it shouldn't be hard. There are tons of one dimensional women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Just picked up the Mormon Princess in my current game when she's still unspoiled (and was training with a visiting Pam in TAPOUT), and I'll give the whole thing a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 This might be doable if the fighter is in a promotion of cans. I often see OMEGA fighters ranked and when I look at who is in the promotion there are some real crappy fighters there. So if you could take a promotion like OMEGA to the top I think you should be able to get the fighters in there to the top. I might have to try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40710" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This might be doable if the fighter is in a promotion of cans. I often see OMEGA fighters ranked and when I look at who is in the promotion there are some real crappy fighters there. So if you could take a promotion like OMEGA to the top I think you should be able to get the fighters in there to the top. I might have to try that.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Or, start a new division at International. I have a lot of people with 1-0 and 2-0 records at the top of my (new) Welterweight division. And as the dominant company in the world, I have 22 of the top 25 Welterweights in the world. The talent pool isn't great so it should be especially easy for me to complete this challenge by just clearing the top of the division (if I go with a Welterweight). I could do Atomweight or Flyweight as well since there are no truly dominant champions in those divisions. Heck, Shannon Palmer just won my Flyweight title and she's nowhere near the class of the division.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 <p>It'd be a little too easy to just make a new title and call it the "King of Cans"-title and just let cans fight over it like dogs over a bone. It should be done in the conventional way imo (1 prestigious title for each weight). It's still doable and easily exploitable if you just populate your company with cans. </p><p> </p><p> I'm gunning for Tina Chavez to make it, but I let my child organisation "build her up". That was my first mistake. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> They gave her someone who was maybe a better boxer than Chavez was a wrestler, and the rules were 9x3 minutes so that was a coin toss, but she made it. I'll better feed her people. The goal is basically just to keep the targeted fighter occupied to build xp, and not get injured. She doesn't even need to be popular to be in the HoF. Most of the work is ensuring </p><p> </p><p> Hopefully in WMMA5 we'd get a psychological dimension, so when fighters get title shots through leapfrogging, the crowd reacts and the belt loses credibility. Right now this isn't really the case (only if the champs are not popular at all, or is it when the belt isn't booked in the main event?).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Oh no, I wouldn't game the challenge like that. My strongest division, hands down, is the one Pam presides over (Bantamweight). There are people with 10-0 records who can't break into the top 25 (Alda Pereira, for example). So I have a lot more to choose from in that division. But I'd probably go with a Featherweight since Kikuchi is fading fast without divine intervention so it would be doable (but not easy, with Konishi and Shauna Underwood in the way and Marisa Calinas shooting up the rankings) to get to a range where she'd have access to fights against top-10 fighters and maybe a title shot. I mentioned the 'new weight class' thing because I just noticed it myself. As the newest division in WEFF, it's got the shallowest talent pool. No dominant champion (unlike BW, LW, and SW) and no one's had a chance to rise to the top yet (though there is A champion, she's not the best fighter in the division as far as the oddsmakers are concerned). And when you have most of the top 20 in the world for one particular weight class in one company, it's easy to just go up the list (beat 19 then 18 then 17 and so on). It's different with other weight classes where one company might have 4 of the top 20 fighters. Then the jumps between ranked opponents can be massive. Got a question though. Would Jordan Fitch qualify for this or is she too good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 The FW division is a mess you can mold into however you want it to be. I chose to be fair and les Facchine loose on it. We all know how that ended. Unless you're lucky and end up with her having low destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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