WCW: Heart and Soul

DGenerationMC · January 27, 2018

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MisterRomanini" data-cite="MisterRomanini" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I mean who wouldn't wanna come out to the ring to the sound of Grammy-Award Winning 1999 Hit "Smooth" By Santana Feat. Rob Thomas of Matchbox Twenty?</div></blockquote> Someone with a rough soul, if they have one at all.

The Final Countdown · January 28, 2018

Mayhem 2003 Stats Order of Entry: 1. CM Punk 2. Brian Kendrick 3. Christopher Daniels 4. Hugh Morrus 5. Brian Adams 6. Harry Smith 7. Kaz Hayashi 8. Rob Van Dam 9. Fatu 10. Scott Steiner 11. Yang 12. Teddy Hart 13. Diamond Dallas Page 14. Jamie Knoble 15. Nigel McGuinness 16. Rick Steiner 17. Minoru Tanaka 18. Lance Storm 19. Shane Helms 20. The Destroyer 21. The Unnatural 22. Mark Jindrak 23. Chavo Guerrero Jr. 24. TAKA 25. Bobby Roode 26. Alexander 27. Shane Douglas 28. Billy Kidman 29. Konnan 30. Eddie Guerrero Order of Elimination: 1. Hugh Morrus, by Christopher Daniels 2. Brian Kendrick, by CM Punk 3. Christopher Daniels, by CM Punk 4. Brian Adams, by CM Punk 5. Fatu, by RVD, Punk, Hayashi and Harry Smith 6. Harry Smith, by Scott Steiner 7. Teddy Hart, by CM Punk 8. Kaz Hayashi, by DDP 9. CM Punk, by DDP 10. Yang, by Jamie Knoble 11. Nigel McGuinness, by Minoru Tanaka 12. DDP, by Scott Steiner 13. Rick Steiner, by Jamie Knoble 14. Jamie Knoble, by Scott Steiner 15. Scott Steiner, by Rob Van Dam 16. Minoru Tanaka, by The Unnatural 17. Shane Helms, by The Destroyer 18. Mark Jindrak, by The Unnatural 19. The Destroyer, by Rob Van Dam 20. Rob Van Dam, by Bobby Roode 21. Chavo Guerrero Jr., by Alexander 22. TAKA, by Shane Douglas 23. Alexander, by Lance Storm 24. Bobby Roode, by Billy Kidman 25. Billy Kidman, by The Unnatural 26. Konnan, by Lance Storm 27. Lance Storm, by The Unnatural 28. Shane Douglas, by Eddie Guerrero 29. The Unnatural, by Eddie Guerrero Eliminations: CM Punk, 5 The Unnatural, 4 Rob Van Dam, 3 Scott Steiner, 3 Eddie Guerrero, 2 Jamie Knoble, 2 Diamond Dallas Page, 2 Lance Storm, 2 Shane Douglas, 1 Billy Kidman, 1 The Destroyer, 1 Bobby Roode, 1 Alexander, 1 Christopher Daniels, 1 Kaz Hayashi, 1 Harry Smith, 1 Minoru Tanaka, 1 Total Time: Rob Van Dam, 35:52 Lance Storm, 29:16 The Unnatural, 27:16 CM Punk, 23:28 Scott Steiner, 21:43 Kaz Hayashi, 12:55 Shane Douglas, 12:36 Bobby Roode, 10:52 Harry Smith, 09:48 Brian Kendrick, 09:31 Diamond Dallas Page, 09:30 Jamie Knoble, 09:22 Eddie Guerrero, 09:16 Christopher Daniels, 09:12 Minoru Tanaka, 08:57 The Destroyer, 07:47 Alexander, 07:32 TAKA, 07:22 Yang, 07:19 Chavo Guerrero Jr, 06:57 Shane Helms, 05:49 Brian Adams, 05:33 Konnan, 05:20 Billy Kidman, 05:11 Nigel McGuinness, 05:07 Rick Steiner, 04:47 Hugh Morrus, 02:50 Fatu, 01:51 Mark Jindrak, 01:04 Teddy Hart, 00:40 <hr noshade size=3> I knew I forgot something! That's fine though, because I've got something to share. I decided to do a test run to make sure WWE could sustain a brand split. I took over as Vince for a day, set up a brand split, and had Bret leave WCW so I could skip a year ahead and make sure the split was something the AI could handle. The answer was yes, so I believe I'll be going ahead with the plan to make that part of the prediction contest. I also found some of the things that happened over that year fascinating, so I'll share some of it with you: -Perhaps to support the split, WWE greatly increased the size of their roster over the year, going from 57 to 84. Among those 84? Probably 7 or 8 WCW guys, including Goldust, Sean O'Haire and DDP! It wasn't all one-sided though, because AI WCW stole William Regal, Kane, Trish Stratus, and...someone whose identity I don't want to give away, in case I can steal them for real! -WWE's popularity in the US declined. Not drastically, but enough to be noticeable. They remained at National throughout the year. WCW's popularity increased; they not only became more popular than WWE, but made it to International. Despite them being International and WWE National, WWE is still somehow ranked #1. -I have women's wrestling in WCW set as Integrated (not so I can do intergender matches, but just so the women can have regular pushes instead of 'Women's Division'.) Because of that, WCW's roster looks wonky. Both Nitro and WWR are treated the same, so the Renaissance brand includes the likes of Goldberg, Danielson, and Lance Storm. -Rey Mysterio remained champion throughout the year, but he didn't defend the title on every PPV. He continued to have amazing matches every single time though; his worst title defense from this period was against Goldberg, and that was 'only' a 91. Almost every other one was either a 98 or 99. For some reason, the AI has kept the title on him while mainly using him in the Filthy Animals team with Kidman, and in a sim that ended in May 04, he hadn't defended the title since January. (He and Kidman did have some amazing matches with Made in Italy though!) -The women's title was all but forgotten. Toyota defended it exactly once in an entire year. She did have an awesome TV match teaming up with Eddie against Goldberg and The Unnatural though! -Austin won wrestler of the year. He had two perfect 100 matches; a Nitro match against Mortis which won MOTY, and a win over Sean O'Haire in the finals of the Stu Hart Classic. -With Bret out of the picture, Dixie Carter became the owner of WCW. Making a much better decision than she ever did in real life, she hired Paul Heyman as booker. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="JMike" data-cite="JMike" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>57 is a good amount, I thought it would be in the 30s or 40s because WCW has half the roster they had irl at this point. I'd say, with the reception of the Fatu surprise, maybe sign the man to a short term deal. What to do with him? Idk, my best idea would be having him believe the Yung Dragons conspiracy. What do I know? Thankfully I'm not bookerman here. I'm not a good bookerman.</div></blockquote> 57 seemed like a good amount to me. It's got nothing on WCW though; we're in the 90s! <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> (The numbers would probably be closer if I just had a women's division instead of an entire brand.) I'd never even considered having another wrestler or wrestlers being sympathetic to the Jung Dragons' "objections." That idea has some potential, with or without Fatu. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kijar" data-cite="Kijar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I almost always overload my roster and have to do a brand split. I find it works best with roughly 5 main eventers on each brand, maybe one more each, if one was to be stingy about face/heel divide equality <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> But yeah, they are sitting pretty well for a brand split at 57 with 20 in the uppercard. Better than the AI usually do with one <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> I could easily justify a genuine split with WCW as well, but I'm liking the setup with a 2 hour Nitro and 1 hour just for the women, and I don't really want to add any more. I should probably just scale back and let some people walk when their contracts are coming due. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="James The Animator" data-cite="James The Animator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, seeing as I'm doing so well in the prediction contest, I'm beginning to get excited about participating in the next Ultimate Fan Series! I know it's a bit soon to start saying that, as it just ended, but that's going to be a lot of fun if I can join in! <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> Consider this a practice session for that! Next month's Great American Bash will be the end of this contest, with doing the WWE draft and booking Summerslam available as prizes. Then the UFS contest starts in July and runs all the way through Starrcade. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="kinnikuniverse" data-cite="kinnikuniverse" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To be honest, that event was pretty easy to predict, except for the mayhem match.</div></blockquote> Yeah, there were lots of perfect 8/8s on the non-Mayhem match part of the show. One of those matches could very easily have gone the other way though. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also, cool that you reduced Joe's contract for one year only. The joe we know and love didn't exist till 2004, so you're right in the money on that. Maybe you can do the Akuma character on joe, in that he's a merciless warrior looking for the strongest opponents to face for a fight to the death ( well, not exactly death, but u know what I mean.)</div></blockquote> That's a good comparison. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Look, I know I'm beating on a dead horse, and I probably should stop annoying you with it, but I really want dragon gate to be founded! They're one of my favorite promotions back then, and I recently watched their recent shows and got hooked!</div></blockquote> It'll happen; I just need to make time to get around to it. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wait, can't new japan become a child company to you? Because do child companies work exactly what I described in the previous post? Or something similar?</div></blockquote> They could, yeah. NJPW was still hanging around in my yearlong sim; still in debt, but the debt hadn't gone up hardly at all. They yo-yoed back to National and then back down to Cult again, but they were still hanging in there. With that in mind, I might leave them alone for the time being and hope they can pull through on their own.

Uncrewed · January 28, 2018

Dixie owning WCW with Heyman as booker would have been very interesting. If I remember correctly, that was supposed to happen to TNA in 2010.

kinnikuniverse · January 29, 2018

Just to tell you, I don't have the game on me anymore, as I cleaned up my computer to make some space. And I don't want to pay again for it, so I can't play as WWE.

It would actually be interesting that you'd hire heyman. I can see him And bischoff be in a war for arn's throne when he retires from the business, or heyman joining austin and forming a rebel force against the empire. And save knoble mania.

Can't wait for the next shows! It's gonna be nuts!!

smartman · January 29, 2018

To the last two posters. There are explicit instructions on how to unlicense the game for either moving to a new computer or wiping an existing one. You only ever have to pay for the game once EVER. There are also explicit instructions on how to recover your license if you need to do it. It might take a week to do, but it involves sending one or two emails. Go to the tech support forum section for the game to find out how to do either. I moved literally everything two Christmases ago, and it was super-easy.

The Final Countdown · January 30, 2018

May 2003 Renaissance Update and June 2003 National Battle Report <div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/2aDyraK.png</div> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">May 2003 Update</div> -The month was built around the opening round of the tag team title tournament, with three of the four shows featuring a tournament match in the main event (and the odd week out had a world title match in the prime spot.) The first round played out as follows: May 10th: Chigusa Nagayo and Meiko Satomura over Daffney and LuFisto May 17th: Our Generation over Takako Inoue and Katarina Waters May 24th: Manami Toyota and Toshiyo Yamada over Las Cachorras Orientales (Etsuko Mita and her old partner Mima Shimoda, in on a one night deal) May 31st: Aja Kong and Devil Masami over Kyoko Inoue and Momoe Nakanishi Looking ahead to the next two weeks, the semifinals will look like this: June 7th: Chigusa Nagayo and Meiko Satomura vs. Our Generation June 14th: Manami Toyota and Toshiyo Yamada vs. Aja Kong and Devil Masami </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Show Summaries: 5/10: <img alt="vF3GLwq.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/vF3GLwq.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> 5/17: <img alt="scURl2i.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/scURl2i.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Notes from this show: -Lisa Moretti is nowhere near the performer Manami Toyota is, and it showed during their match. 5/24: <img alt="pVhiorE.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/pVhiorE.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Notes from this show: -Kaori Yoneyama cheered up the locker room by providing food for everyone. 5/31: <img alt="phWMX9V.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/phWMX9V.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Notes from this show: -Kyoko Inoue and Shinobu Kandori were apparently having a great time backstage before the show, and it lifted the overall mood. </div></div></blockquote> <hr noshade size=3> <div style="text-align:center;">National Battle Report: June 2003</div> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="ebDwXEW.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/ebDwXEW.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> USA</div> #1: <img alt="nUYCk9q.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/nUYCk9q.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> World Championship Wrestling Top 5 Stars: 1) Steve Austin (1000 points) 2) Bill Goldberg (965) 3) Rey Mysterio Jr. (786) 4) CM Punk (755) 5) Rob Van Dam (738) Total Points: 4,244 #2: <img alt="7AiYO6E.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/7AiYO6E.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> World Wrestling Entertainment Top 5 Stars: 1) The Rock (1000 points) 2) Hollywood Hogan (855) 3) The Undertaker (810) 4) Triple H (807) 5) Big Show (728) Total Points: 4,200 </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="ieBLbQ1.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/ieBLbQ1.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> British Isles</div> #1: <img alt="7AiYO6E.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/7AiYO6E.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> World Wrestling Entertainment Top 5 Stars: 1) The Rock (1000 points) 2) Hollywood Hogan (881) 3) The Undertaker (810) 4) Triple H (797) 5) Big Show (734) Total Points: 4,222 #2: <img alt="nUYCk9q.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/nUYCk9q.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> World Championship Wrestling Top 5 Stars: 1) Steve Austin (1000 points) 2) Bill Goldberg (962) 3) Rey Mysterio Jr. (775) 4) Scott Steiner (706) 5) Rob Van Dam (705) Total Points: 4,148</div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="1eeVS9d.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/1eeVS9d.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Japan</div> #1: <img alt="nUYCk9q.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/nUYCk9q.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> World Championship Wrestling Top 5 Stars: 1) Steve Austin (995 points) 2) Bill Goldberg (964) 3) Rey Mysterio Jr. (821) 4) CM Punk (812) 5) Rob Van Dam (751) Total Points: 4,343 #2: <img alt="7AiYO6E.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/7AiYO6E.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> World Wrestling Entertainment Top 5 Stars: 1) The Rock (1000 points) 2) Hollywood Hogan (865) 3) Triple H (819) 4) The Undertaker (809) 5) Kurt Angle (732) Total Points: 4,225</div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">June 1st</div> I could just imagine the snarl on Vince's face when he was handed the latest issue of the Observer. He was still drawing bigger houses, larger TV ratings and PPV buy rates and making more money, but the walls were closing in. The additions of Austin and now Goldberg were huge, and when combined with the elevation of Mysterio and Punk into the upper echelon, we now had the bigger star power in the eyes of the sheets. This business is built on stars, as Vince well knows. If we can keep this up, we could be breathing down his neck by the end of the year. He might have stolen Booker T, but I responded in turn by signing away Eddie Guerrero, who fits our product better. He tried to deal us a major blow by taking Rey as well, but we re-signed him and he'll remain a key piece for us in this fight.</div></blockquote> <hr noshade size=3> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Uncrewed" data-cite="Uncrewed" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dixie owning WCW with Heyman as booker would have been very interesting. If I remember correctly, that was supposed to happen to TNA in 2010.</div></blockquote> Yep. I think Heyman asked for a percentage of ownership that prevented that from happening? <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="kinnikuniverse" data-cite="kinnikuniverse" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just to tell you, I don't have the game on me anymore, as I cleaned up my computer to make some space. And I don't want to pay again for it, so I can't play as WWE.</div></blockquote> You'd only need the game if you were to book one of the big 3 WWE shows, so you can just choose an optional prize if it comes down to that. You wouldn't need the game to do either this Raw/ECW draft or the UFS draft. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smartman" data-cite="smartman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To the last two posters. There are explicit instructions on how to unlicense the game for either moving to a new computer or wiping an existing one. You only ever have to pay for the game once EVER. There are also explicit instructions on how to recover your license if you need to do it. It might take a week to do, but it involves sending one or two emails. Go to the tech support forum section for the game to find out how to do either. I moved literally everything two Christmases ago, and it was super-easy.</div></blockquote> Yeah, I had to contact GDS to unlicense TEW2013 when my old laptop died. I think they did it within a day or two, and then I moved it to a different computer. Painless and easy.

KnowYourEnemy · January 30, 2018

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Order of Entry: Perhaps to support the split, WWE greatly increased the size of their roster over the year, going from 57 to 84...NJPW was still hanging around in my yearlong sim; still in debt, but the debt hadn't gone up hardly at all. They yo-yoed back to National and then back down to Cult again, but they were still hanging in there. With that in mind, I might leave them alone for the time being and hope they can pull through on their own.</div></blockquote> Maybe Vince could make a deal with Inoki... sounds like both have something the other guy wants. Are we still considering that? I'm not saying that the AI will manage it perfectly, but I'm saying split correctly, they won't feel the need to cut half the New Japan roster. Gotta spread evenly those guys with no pop in the US.

DHK1989 · January 30, 2018

WCW is #1 in both America AND Japan as far as star power?? Seeing that warms my heart. <img alt="

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Hashasheen · January 30, 2018

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yep. I think Heyman asked for a percentage of ownership that prevented that from happening?</div></blockquote> Plus complete control of the booking and the firing of everyone over 40 with the exception of Kurt Angle.

K-Nection · January 30, 2018

I have a feeling Yamada is going to pull a Samoa Joe and turn on Toyota after the finals..... I don't know how she would do as a heel but it would be an intriguing story to tell.

Also I see RVD has reclaimed his spot in Japan lol. I bet Vince is furious now that he is actually losing national battles.

smartman · January 31, 2018

Dang, what the hell has Vince been doing to poor Eddie that he doesn't even hit #5 spot for you on the US list? What are his SQ and Pop in the US? It is great that you've now taken control of the battle. Now, it is on to win the war!

kinnikuniverse · February 1, 2018

Here comes the war! Surprised that eddie isn't in your top stars tho...

I know it's off-topic, but I hope we get at least the prediction card before the other get american bash: the super bowl!

Speaking of which, anybody here making their predictions?

The Final Countdown · February 2, 2018

June 2003: Road to Great American Bash <div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="aceMub4.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/aceMub4.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> The Backstories:</div> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">The Ties That Bind Us</div> -After Eddie Guerrero returned to WCW and won the Mayhem match and Rey Mysterio Jr. retained the World Heavyweight Championship against King Corino in the main event, the path to Great American Bash was set. At the start of Nitro the following night, Rey welcomed Eddie back to WCW with open arms. They talked about how they'd been both strong friends and heated rivals, but the respect had always been there. They'd had classic matches against each other in the past, but this was going to be the biggest yet, because this time they'd be fighting for the most important title in wrestling. Corino interrupted the "mutual admiration society", as he called it, to complain that Guerrero had robbed him, and it was only because of him that his "little buddy" still had the title. This set up a main event match between Guerrero and Corino. It was a classic match, but ended in disqualification when several other members of The Empire attacked Guerrero. The beating continued after the match, until Mysterio ran in with a chair to save his friend and future challenger. Eddie and Rey met in Piper's Pit the following week. It played out much the same as their in-ring conversation the week before. Despite Roddy bringing up events from their past like Eddie pulling Rey's mask off of his face and trying to take his mask for good, neither man took the bait. They were talking about what a great match it was going to be when the party was crashed by The Unnatural. He told them not to get ahead of themselves--because he was going to use his UFS title shot to turn the Great American Bash main event into a triple threat match! Rey and Eddie beat his "brothers" Alexander and The Destroyer in a tag match on June 2nd, but The Unnatural wasn't concerned. After the match, he said that a lot of people were questioning why he would use his title shot for a three way instead of simply entering a one on one match. Some were calling him stupid, but it was compassion that motivated him. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The Unnatural, 6/2/03 "The bonds of friendship are truly a wonderful thing. Friendship, true friendship, should be treasured, just as I treasure each one of my Salvation brothers. But greed and ambition all too often sever these precious bonds. You are both ambitious men, and you were set on a collision course at Great American Bash, with the most prestigious prize in this sport hanging in the balance. Could your friendship have survived such strain? You may think so, but can you truly be certain? Especially after your checkered pasts? We will never have to find out, because I have taken it upon myself to offer a solution. I will take the burden of the championship myself, and your friendship will be preserved."</div></blockquote> Eddie and Rey did pre-taped promos on the go home show. Neither of them bought Unnatural's explanation, and both said they believed he was trying to drive a wedge between them and use it to backdoor his way to the championship. Rey said he'd been fighting against the odds his entire career, and he'd do it again this Sunday by retaining his championship against two top opponents, even if one of them was one of his best friends. Eddie talked about his frustrations at banging his head against the glass ceiling in his previous WCW tenure, and leaving and achieving great success elsewhere, but the whole time believing that his career wouldn't be complete unless he could go back to WCW and make it to the top. The Unnatural beat Kidman in the main event, and afterwards called both Rey and Eddie out to the ring. He advised them to not let the heat of the moment come between their friendship. They could take the competitive fire of wanting to be the champion, and unleash every bit of it on him. He would take it all, and it would forge him into a tougher being, a being capable of bearing the great burden that will be thrust upon him once he emerges from the Great American Bash as the new World Heavyweight Champion. Rey and Eddie, tired of listening to him, worked together to beat him down to close the show. But as Mike and I pointed out, only one of them could stand tall on Sunday. </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Brick by Brick</div> -Steve Austin tried to attack Goldberg again on May 19th, but this time Eric Bischoff had a small army of security in place to prevent it from happening. As Austin tried to find a way through the human wall, Bischoff took the mic to blame him for throwing The Empire off their game and ruining their carefully laid plans at Mayhem, and he promised Austin had "empirical retribution" coming his way. Austin called out Goldberg the next week, but got Bischoff instead. Eric said he was a man of his word, and he meant it when he said he would NEVER give Austin the satisfaction of a match between he and Goldberg. But that didn't mean The Empire didn't want to make him pay for throwing them in disarray before the biggest match in their history. So no, Austin couldn't have Goldberg, but Eric would be more than happy to set up a match between he and TAKA. It wasn't what he wanted, but Austin accepted the challenge. Later in the night Sting approached him backstage to say that he knew Bischoff's MO better than most, and he knew The Empire would try and take him out when he least expected it, so he'd be more than happy to help Steve out and watch his back. Austin's response was that he works best when he can raise hell on his own, so thanks but no thanks. On June 3rd, The Empire (minus Goldberg) jumped Austin in the ring after a squash match. He stood his ground and fought, but the numbers overcame him. TAKA really rubbed it in by posing and flexing over Austin. The group gloated about it on the 9th, but were interrupted by Austin "via satellite" from his home in Texas. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Steve Austin, 6/9/03 "You boys think ya done somethin' last week? That wasn't the first time Steve Austin's been beaten down, and it sure as hell won't be the last! But there ain't never been a beating I haven't gotten up from. Steve Austin's gonna tear your whole damn Empire down, brick by brick, and TAKA, it starts with you, son!"</div></blockquote> Steve isn't used to working big matches with a heel as small as TAKA, but I think this will work out great. TAKA plays a shifty little punk heel really well. </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Is "Da Man" Still a Man?</div> -It was a tougher test than his usual squash, but Goldberg still came out on top against Rick Steiner on May 26th. He was about to beat his fallen opponent up further after the match, but Scott ran in and they had a stare-down that the crowd popped big for. On June 2nd Scott called Goldberg a coward and dared him to come out and fight "Freakzilla." Goldberg came out as if to answer the challenge, but King Corino held him back while Rick Steiner did the same with Scott. Goldberg racked up another squash on the 9th, but afterwards Scott came out and taunted him, saying he didn't know you had to get a vasectomy and give your manhood up to join The Empire, and if he were still a real man he'd fight him! Goldberg made a beeline for him, but Corino was again there to restrain his stable mate. Steiner began taunting Corino, and Rick had to come down to prevent his brother from walking into a 2 on 1 situation. Corino, feeling very confident with Goldberg at his side, said The Empire could use a nice cut of the PPV revenue this Sunday and so he and Bill would be happy to meet The Steiners in one of the featured matches. Scott naturally accepted. </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Calling Your Shot</div> -By defeating Fit Finlay for his 10th successful TV title defense, Sean O'Haire had the option of vacating the title and challenging AJ Styles for the United States belt. The following night, he addressed the world and made his intentions known: he was NOT going to go for the US title. It hadn't been that long ago since he'd beaten a five time world champion in just two minutes, so he knew he had what it took to win the biggest prize of all. He was shooting for fifteen title defenses, and a shot at the World Heavyweight Championship! Defense #11 came the next week when he survived the kicks and submissions of Minoru Tanaka. Now he was catching everyone's attention, and on June 2nd Shane Douglas said he wanted to ruin O'Haire's grand dreams and carve the path to the top for himself by taking his title. O'Haire came out and nodded to accept the challenge. They met in the ring for an interview with Bobby Heenan on June 9th. It was a fairly standard interview until the end, where Douglas was clearly setting up for a cheap shot. When O'Haire saw it coming, though, Shane backed off and left the ring. He'd have to exercise that same caution on Sunday, because O'Haire had already proven his ability to bulldoze through even the toughest challengers. </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Positively Phenomenal</div> -AJ Styles has been making waves in WCW, and he's caught the attention of a 3-time world champion. Diamond Dallas Page did an interview on May 19th in which he said that "Phenomenal" wasn't just a fancy slogan; based on everything he'd seen, this kid really was something special! But Page wanted to step into the ring with him and test him to find out how good he really is. During a Page victory over Psychosis the next week, Styles sat in on commentary to discuss the US title match that he'd agreed to, saying he respected DDP but he would find out that he truly is phenomenal at the Great American Bash. They both stood in the ring on June 2nd for an interview with Bobby Heenan. It was a cordial interview that ended with a handshake, but Page pulled him in and teased hitting a Diamond Cutter before letting him go with a smile. The message was clear: AJ may be the superior athlete, but Page has the experience as well as one of the most effective finishers in the game. It was DDP's turn to watch from commentary on June 9th as AJ was victorious in a non-title match against Tony Mamaluke. Page expressed his admiration of AJ's ability throughout the match, but reminded everyone that all he needed was one chance to hit the Diamond Cutter, and if he got that chance, we'd have a new champion. </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">A Hardcore Homecoming</div> -Bobby Roode and Ric Flair gloated about once again beating "Mr. Hardcore" Rob Van Dam at his own game by putting him through the table and eliminating him at Mayhem. RVD stepped out, and with a defeated smile he admitted they were right. They'd gotten the best of him every step of the way, and they'd done it in the kind of situations he'd used to excel. But he guaranteed that everything was going to change next week. <div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="0exeVr7.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/0exeVr7.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> The "change" came in the form of Paul Heyman, who RVD revealed was the man he'd been speaking with on the phone in the weeks before Mayhem. He'd been forced to admit that he'd lost something, and Paul was going to help him find it. Heyman got on the mic to promise to help RVD get back to basics, and with that in mind, he challenged Roode to meet RVD in a hardcore rules match at the Great American Bash! Flair and Roode came to ringside the next week to watch Van Dam in action against Fit Finlay. Flair sat on commentary and insisted they had nothing to worry about, but their faces told a different story as they watched RVD, with Heyman at his side, wrestling with an edge he'd been missing. Both sides offered their thoughts in a pre-taped promo package for the go home show. Roode and Flair again claimed to have no concern about RVD, and Flair referred to Heyman as a "fatso who came crawling to WCW and begged RVD for a job when the bingo hall closed down!", but Heyman and RVD weren't buying it. They'd seen the concern on Roode's and Flair's faces, and their worst fears would be realized when they saw just how hardcore Rob Van Dam could get! </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Divine Punishment for False Idols </div> -Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams dropped in on the Hardys during an autograph signing, and Daniels had a message. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Christopher Daniels, 5/26/03 "For too long, you have been allowed to represent this tag team division as false idols for these gullible fans to worship, but no longer. Your time is up, because at the Great American Bash, Brian and myself will use our Ultimate Fan Series title match to give these fans a championship team they can truly worship!"</div></blockquote> The Hardys were watching backstage the next week as Daniels and Adams looked impressive in a win over Volador and Aguila. The two teams had a singles clash on the go home show, and it was Christopher Daniels claiming the edge for his team by beating Matt, though only after some interference from Adams. </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">An Honorable Champion</div> -Bryan Danielson knew there was plenty of controversy surrounding his victory over Hayabusa at Mayhem. The next night on Nitro, he met with both Hayabusa and Arn Anderson in the latter's office to say that he was a fighting champion, and he wanted to give Hayabusa a rematch for the title. Arn agreed, and sanctioned a championship rematch for the Bash. Champion and challenger teamed up against the Jung Dragons the following week, with the Dragons getting the pin on Hayabusa while Stacy Keibler distracted Danielson. Danielson apologized to Hayabusa the next week, but the Jung Dragons interrupted and Keibler rubbed the situation in both their faces by teasingly showcasing her legs. June 9th saw Hayabusa one on one against Yang. Hayashi and Keibler tried to swing things in Yang's favor, but Danielson came out to fend them off. With the coast clear, Hayabusa won the match with the Phoenix Splash. </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Heroes to the Rescue!</div> -Chavo Guerrero Jr. welcomed his Uncle Eddie back to Nitro, but it was clear his mind was preoccupied. When Eddie asked him what was wrong, Chavo admitted that he was afraid Salvation was going to try and pay him back for outsmarting The Destroyer and breaking up their dominant run in the Mayhem match. His fears were well-founded, because the group surrounded him in the ring the next week, with Unnatural grabbing the mic to tell him that he can be eradicated at any time they choose. They attempted to back that up on June 2nd, but the cavalry arrived in the form of True Heroes. Later in the night, Punk explained to Chavo that they'd helped him because they had their own grudge to settle with Salvation, referencing their UFS battles with the group as well as the ambush the Monday before Mayhem. June 9th saw Lance Storm absorb lots of punishment from The Destroyer before pinning him with a beautiful cradle, but the real story came post-match. Mortis returned from his "journey", and he, Destroyer and Alexander demanded a six man tag against the Heroes and Chavo. Punk accepted the challenge on his team's behalf, so here we are. Initially I was thinking about Chavo vs. Destroyer one on one on this show, but I wanted to work the Heroes onto the card somewhere and this was a logical continuation of what they've been involved with. </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">The Cocky New Kid</div> -Kidman came out on May 26th to provide fans with an update on the status of his partner Teddy Hart, but Brian Kendrick strolled out and told him he was wasting his breath, because nobody cared about Kidman OR Teddy now that "the greatest thing since sliced bread" had arrived on the scene. Kidman didn't appreciate that, and after a victory over Psychosis on June 2nd he challenged Kendrick to a match. Brian came out and accepted the challenge, but took things up a notch when he invited Torrie Wilson to leave with "the greatest thing since sliced bread." That set off a brawl in the ring. Kidman got the main event spotlight against Unnatural on June 9th, putting on a great effort before the interference of Kendrick was instrumental in his defeat. This will be a big test for Brian, his first singles PPV match, but I'm hopeful he'll be up to it. </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Show Summaries: 5/19: <img alt="iX0Aj7Y.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/iX0Aj7Y.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Notes from this show: -Who knew Nick Patrick was a cartoonist? He entertained the boys with a caricature of Scott Steiner before the show. Thankfully for him Scott found it funny too, but he said Nick should give him more muscles next time if he wants to get it right. -The RVD vs. David Flair pre-show match was run just to make sure there wouldn't be any problems with RVD and Paul Heyman working together. Not only were there not problems, but they worked together pretty well. -Konnan sustained a concussion during his match with Shane Douglas. It's believed it happened after a stiff elbow to the face by Shane, who got some heat with some of the boys as a result. Fortunately it was a very mild concussion, and Konnan was cleared for action just a few days later. -Bob Holly was here on a one night deal. He wasn't happy about putting Kendrick over. Oh well. Maybe he phoned in his performance as a result, because he seemed off his game. 5/26: <img alt="KPJA6w5.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/KPJA6w5.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Notes from this show: -Ric Flair apparently felt Volador snubbed him by walking by without shaking his hand, so he brought him before the wrestler's court. All was forgiven when Volador bought a round of drinks after the show. -Goldberg and Rick Steiner didn't do well together at all. It's a good thing I didn't put that match in the main event, which I did consider. -"Kendrick's definitely connecting with the fans as a cocky heel. Keep it going." -CM Punk -"You just got the good Guerrerrerrero, so why are you still bookin' the one nobody cares about?" -Scott Steiner 6/2: <img alt="AWdOtyQ.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/AWdOtyQ.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Notes from this show: -Mike Awesome and TAKA kept things interesting before the show by setting up a poker tournament. Lance Storm won; apparently his poker face is fantastic. -Mark Jindrak bruised his pectoral muscle during his match with Chavo. He could have worked through it, but I sent him home for a couple of weeks to heal up fully. -Yang's gimmick is getting stale. He needs a change to fit better with what Hayashi is currently doing. -We completed Chavo Guerrero's face turn on this show, and the fans reacted really well to it. -The Unnatural came up with a new catchphrase in the show-closing angle, and it should boost his future promos even further. -"I like what Kendrick's doing. He might be a big time heel some day." -Jeff Hardy 6/9: <img alt="qdnqLdD.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/qdnqLdD.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Notes from this show: -Rey Mysterio Jr. brought in a Playstation 2 and played games with a lot of the younger guys before the show. It's nice to see he hasn't gotten a big head and distanced himself from the locker room after getting his big push. -"I don't think the fans are ever going to care about Cash. He just doesn't have it." -Dustin Rhodes -"Why're you still usin' those wannabe dancing kids? Shannon especially; ain't nobody gonna pay to see a pretty boy with a girl's name!" -Scott Steiner </div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Fan Scorecard: World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©} The Steiner Brothers vs. Goldberg and King Corino "The Hellraiser" Steve Austin vs. TAKA United States Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©} World Television Championship: Shane Douglas vs. Sean O'Haire {©} World Tag Team Championship: "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams vs. The Hardys {©} Cruiserweight Championship: Hayabusa vs. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson {©} Hardcore Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Bobby Roode True Heroes and Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Salvation Billy Kidman vs. Brian Kendrick What will be match of the night? How many championships will change hands? TIEBREAKER: How long is the main event? (minutes and seconds) General diary comments/questions/critiques: </div></blockquote> <hr noshade size=3> Should I be looking at creating my own broadcaster any time soon? I've read that it's more expensive to incrementally raise the size of your broadcaster rather than doing it all at once, so my natural thought was to wait until I could justify going Enormous in the entire world. That would cost over $100 million more than I currently have though, so it sounds like a pipe dream. Should I just wait until I hit the 'break even' level (which I'm already past everywhere except for Canada), start with something smaller and gradually increase it as time goes on and I hopefully have more money to spend? And another one: if a worker can't increase in size, is it a good idea to ask them to go down instead? Will that see the same potential star quality benefits? <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KnowYourEnemy" data-cite="KnowYourEnemy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maybe Vince could make a deal with Inoki... sounds like both have something the other guy wants. Are we still considering that? I'm not saying that the AI will manage it perfectly, but I'm saying split correctly, they won't feel the need to cut half the New Japan roster. Gotta spread evenly those guys with no pop in the US.</div></blockquote> Maybe they wouldn't cut them all, but they'd all slot in as enhancement talent. I speak from experience there, because that's what happens any time I bring in one of the Japanese guys on a loan. Maybe the very best like a Misawa or somebody like that would autopush as a lower midcarder, but I kind of doubt it even for him. For now I think I'm content to just leave New Japan alone and see if they can turn themselves around. Perhaps I'll limit them to not being able to rise above cult, because hitting national when they have negative relationships with both me and WWE is a recipe for disaster for them. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Also I see RVD has reclaimed his spot in Japan lol. I bet Vince is furious now that he is actually losing national battles.</div></blockquote> Yeah, unfortunately I think O'Haire's surge was short-lived. It looks like that win over Booker pushed him past his overness cap, at least in Japan, and now it's gone back down. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smartman" data-cite="smartman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dang, what the hell has Vince been doing to poor Eddie that he doesn't even hit #5 spot for you on the US list? What are his SQ and Pop in the US? It is great that you've now taken control of the battle. Now, it is on to win the war!</div></blockquote> Eddie's never going to sniff my top 5 for national battle purposes. His popularity is pretty good, though ideally he'll be able to gain at least 3-5 more points before he caps out. Star quality is a different story though. I tallied up all my active wrestlers (male and female) with higher star quality than Eddie, and I believe it finished at 26. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="kinnikuniverse" data-cite="kinnikuniverse" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I know it's off-topic, but I hope we get at least the prediction card before the other get american bash: the super bowl! Speaking of which, anybody here making their predictions?</div></blockquote> I beat it by three days, so yes! <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I'd love to see the Eagles win, but I don't expect it.

DGenerationMC · February 2, 2018

World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©}

The Steiner Brothers vs. Goldberg and King Corino

"The Hellraiser" Steve Austin vs. TAKA

United States Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Television Championship: Shane Douglas vs. Sean O'Haire {©}

World Tag Team Championship: "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams vs. The Hardys {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Hayabusa vs. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson {©}

Hardcore Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Bobby Roode

True Heroes and Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Salvation

Billy Kidman vs. Brian Kendrick

What will be match of the night? World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©}

How many championships will change hands? 2

TIEBREAKER: How long is the main event? (minutes and seconds) 23:50

General diary comments/questions/critiques: I didn't think this diary could get more interesting, but the backstories for this PPV have done just that! Lots of good twists and turns going into The Bash. Oh, and GO PATS <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

crackerjack · February 2, 2018

World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©}

The Steiner Brothers vs. Goldberg and King Corino

"The Hellraiser" Steve Austin vs. TAKA

United States Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Television Championship: Shane Douglas vs. Sean O'Haire {©}

World Tag Team Championship: "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams vs. The Hardys {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Hayabusa vs. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson {©}

Hardcore Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Bobby Roode

True Heroes and Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Salvation

Billy Kidman vs. Brian Kendrick

What will be match of the night? Triple Threat

How many championships will change hands? 1

TIEBREAKER: How long is the main event? (minutes and seconds) 24:50

kinnikuniverse · February 2, 2018

OOOOHH BOY! Lots of interesting matchup in this one. Which is what I'm looking for out of the second most important PPV of the year!

Rey-rey. Love to see what Dustin can do with eddie in the ring

Austin. Wonder how he's gonna fare against a quicker, smaller, more agile opponent

Empire. YOU'RE JUST TEASIN THE BIGGEST MONEY MATCH SINCE I HEADLINED THE TOKYO DOME WITH MAH BROTHER RICK!! That ref makes some funny cartoons tho. -Scott steiner

AJ. Really looking forward to how DDP will handle the phenomenal one, considering he can still go despite his age.

O'haire. Honestly, I doubt if O'haire will truly be a star despite his qualities.

Hardyz. Still think the division will benefit from them splitting up.

AMDRAG VS HAYABUSA. NO BUMPY REFS. CLEAN FINISH ONLY. FINAL DESTINATION! Srsly tho, I actually see busa winning here, probably having a third and decisive match at starrcade!

RVD. LET'S GET DANGEROUS!!! HEYMAN RULZ!!

salvation. To make up for Dustin losing later on.

Kendrick. I actually would've loved to see that match back then!

Match of the night: triple threat

Title changes: 1

How long is the main event: 25:32

As for the super bowl, I predict a superb showing from the Eagles defense in the first half, but tom Brady would enter GOAT mode in the 4th quarter and win it for the pats.

deanohbk · February 2, 2018

Eddie

Goldberg & Corino

Austin

AJ

O'Haire

Hardys

Danielson

RVD

True Heroes & Chavo

Kendrick

Rey v Eddie v Unnatural

2

21:30

bonnie · February 2, 2018

Fan Scorecard:

World Heavyweight Championship: The Unnatural

Goldberg and King Corino

"The Hellraiser" Steve Austin

United States Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page

World Television Championship: Shane Douglas

World Tag Team Championship: The Hardys {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson {©}

Hardcore Rules: Rob Van Dam

Salvation

Brian Kendrick

What will be match of the night? The ME

How many championships will change hands? 3

TIEBREAKER: How long is the main event? (minutes and seconds) 31.27

JMike · February 2, 2018

Fan Scorecard:

World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©}

The Steiner Brothers vs. Goldberg and King Corino

"The Hellraiser" Steve Austin vs. TAKA

United States Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Television Championship: Shane Douglas vs. Sean O'Haire {©}

World Tag Team Championship: "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams vs. The Hardys {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Hayabusa vs. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson {©}

Hardcore Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Bobby Roode

True Heroes and Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Salvation

Billy Kidman vs. Brian Kendrick

What will be match of the night? Triple threat

How many championships will change hands? 1

TIEBREAKER: How long is the main event? (minutes and seconds) 27:28

General diary comments/questions/critiques: oooooh things is getting spicy, I love it, Maggle

Uncrewed · February 2, 2018

World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©}

The Steiner Brothers vs. Goldberg and King Corino

"The Hellraiser" Steve Austin vs. TAKA

United States Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Television Championship: Shane Douglas vs. Sean O'Haire {©}

World Tag Team Championship: "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams vs. The Hardys {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Hayabusa vs. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson {©}

Hardcore Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Bobby Roode

True Heroes and Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Salvation

Billy Kidman vs. Brian Kendrick

What will be match of the night?- Eddie/Rey/Unnatural

How many championships will change hands?- 1

TIEBREAKER: How long is the main event? (minutes and seconds)- 21:39

General diary comments/questions/critiques:

Warhawk8492 · February 2, 2018

World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©}

The Steiner Brothers vs. Goldberg and King Corino

"The Hellraiser" Steve Austin vs. TAKA

United States Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Television Championship: Shane Douglas vs. Sean O'Haire {©}

World Tag Team Championship: "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams vs. The Hardys {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Hayabusa vs. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson {©}

Hardcore Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Bobby Roode

True Heroes and Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Salvation

Billy Kidman vs. Brian Kendrick

What will be match of the night? World title

How many championships will change hands? One

TIEBREAKER: How long is the main event? (minutes and seconds) 21:37

General diary comments/questions/critiques: Great to see Eddie come back to WCW.

K-Nection · February 2, 2018

World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©}

The Steiner Brothers vs. Goldberg and King Corino

"The Hellraiser" Steve Austin vs. TAKA

United States Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Tag Team Championship: "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams vs. The Hardys {©}

Hardcore Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Bobby Roode

True Heroes and Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Salvation

Billy Kidman vs. Brian Kendrick

What will be match of the night? Rey Eddie and Unnatural

How many championships will change hands? 0

TIEBREAKER: How long is the main event? (minutes and seconds) 25:38

General diary comments/questions/critiques: I say go for the WCW network....I would start out a rung or two above the smallest if you have the finances and take it from there. I'm pretty sure you will be making enough from the other regions to offset Canada. Also I love every time Scott Steiner has an opinion on one of your workers. The mods seemed to have nailed his personality perfectly lol.

DHK1989 · February 2, 2018

World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©}

The Steiner Brothers vs. Goldberg and King Corino

"The Hellraiser" Steve Austin vs. TAKA

United States Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Tag Team Championship: "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams vs. The Hardys {©}

Hardcore Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Bobby Roode

True Heroes and Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Salvation

Billy Kidman vs. Brian Kendrick

What will be match of the night? World Title Match

How many championships will change hands? One

TIEBREAKER: How long is the main event? (minutes and seconds) 22:37

DavidCorperial · February 2, 2018

World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©}

The Steiner Brothers vs. Goldberg and King Corino

"The Hellraiser" Steve Austin vs. TAKA

United States Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Tag Team Championship: "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams vs. The Hardys {©}

Hardcore Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Bobby Roode

True Heroes and Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Salvation

Billy Kidman vs. Brian Kendrick

What will be match of the night? Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©}

How many championships will change hands? 1

TIEBREAKER: How long is the main event? (minutes and seconds) 27:36

ElectricX · February 2, 2018

World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. The Unnatural vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. {©}

The Steiner Brothers vs. Goldberg and King Corino

"The Hellraiser" Steve Austin vs. TAKA

United States Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Tag Team Championship: "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams vs. The Hardys {©}

Hardcore Rules: Rob Van Dam vs. Bobby Roode

True Heroes and Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Salvation

Billy Kidman vs. Brian Kendrick

What will be match of the night? Guerrero/Mysterio/Unnatural

How many championships will change hands?1

TIEBREAKER: How long is the main event? (minutes and seconds) 33 mins and 15 seconds

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