K-Nection Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Got a question as I have never seen this theory thrown out. It is no secret that the Earth's sea levels are rising but what if we simply started taking that water and started dumping it on other planets surrounding us? These planets have been looked at as possibilities for potential Terra-forming sites anyway. I know it wouldn't be the end all cure to our rising sea levels but this feels like it could buy us more time while at the same time starting the process for us to colonize other surrounding planets. I'm definitely not a scientist but am curious on how well this could work. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I... Uhhhh... wat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberious Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 The obvious problem with the idea is there's no feasible way to get a significant amount of water into space. The ocean is huge, and rockets are expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45016" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I...<p> </p><p> Uhhhh...</p><p> </p><p> wat</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was expecting that reaction.... I know its an unorthodox discussion. I was just reading that in less than 80 years Miami would be completely submerged under water and it got me thinking on ways to curve that.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tiberious" data-cite="Tiberious" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45016" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The obvious problem with the idea is there's no feasible way to get a significant amount of water into space. The ocean is huge, and rockets are expensive.<p> Today 10:57 AM</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ok since Elon Musk likes launching his cars into space I figured this could be potentially something to consider. Besides the obvious financial limitations what other negatives would this cause?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 <p>K-Nection, you know I love you and all...</p><p> </p><p> But that idea sounds ridiculous and is impossible to put into practice.</p><p> </p><p> For one thing: How are we going to keep the water from evaporating while in space?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mr. Jones" data-cite="Mr. Jones" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45016" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>K-Nection, you know I love you and all...<p> </p><p> But that idea sounds ridiculous and is impossible to put into practice.</p><p> </p><p> For one thing: How are we going to keep the water from evaporating while in space?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Here is the "I'm not a scientist part coming in ha ha." Based on my limited knowledge of actual physics and my over exposure to sci-fi movies that is kinda how I pulled this idea out. Ok if it were transported by rocket why would it evaporate inside of it? Also if it is a huge problem is there a way to refrigerate the inside? </p><p> </p><p> Another thing if water would just immediately evaporate when it reaches space then that makes my original theory easier becuase instead of transferring the water to other planets why don't we just outright dump the water in space and let physics take care of the rest?</p><p> </p><p> Edit: After typing this I realized that if water evaporates it just turns into a gas anyway but if it is inside a rocket then when you land on the intended planet wouldn't it return back to a liquid once you hit the planet's surface?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberious Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45016" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ok since Elon Musk likes launching his cars into space I figured this could be potentially something to consider. Besides the obvious financial limitations what other negatives would this cause?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Again, the ocean is huge and it takes a huge amount of energy to break the earth's orbit. With booster stage rockets only a small portion of the spacecraft is actually going to outer space, much of it is just giving it the fuel it needs to get break free of gravity before being jettisoned to fall to the ocean.</p><p> </p><p> You could shoot 1,000 rockets worth of water into the ocean and not really make a serious impact on water levels. In addition to just the financial, you have to look at the material and fuel costs expended in it. I don't actually know the detail of what exactly goes into a rocket, but it's a lot of resources and they aren't endless.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tiberious" data-cite="Tiberious" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45016" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Again, the ocean is huge and it takes a huge amount of energy to break the earth's orbit. With booster stage rockets only a small portion of the spacecraft is actually going to outer space, much of it is just giving it the fuel it needs to get break free of gravity before being jettisoned to fall to the ocean.<p> </p><p> You could shoot 1,000 rockets worth of water into the ocean and not really make a serious impact on water levels. In addition to just the financial, you have to look at the material and fuel costs expended in it. I don't actually know the detail of what exactly goes into a rocket, but it's a lot of resources and they aren't endless.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fair enough if rockets couldn't do the job....what if there is a way to just propel the water out of the atmosphere and into space? I don't want to just say water gun but that is essentially what I'm talking about?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Transport some water to the African deserts would be easier and cheaper. Not sure what effect that would have on the ecosystem there, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 You know what, I actually have an idea for the rising sea levels. Why not transfer some of that water over to places that don't have as much water like Cape Town, that way people can have water and we'll be able to prevent a total catastrophe from having...at least, for a little while longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 <p>As mentioned this would probably be ridiculously tedious to accomplish. Ironically it might even be easier to succesfully mobilize the global population to turn this trend around, and that is already conceived to be an "impossible" task. Face it: we're heading towards something bad (let's just call it that: I'm optimistic <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />).</p><p> </p><p> The whole discussion around it is pointless. I often discuss with others how it have gotten this far, and it mostly ends with the thought that Western civilization is just f'cked up as a result of decades of promoting self-centered behaviour. This is only a logical outcome. Turning it around would take a decade of focused efforts of governments or companies with an online presence to get people to realize this, but most will simply not care. They will say they do, but they deceive themselves.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistaken Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 <p>ok, so there is a way to do this that has nothing to do with loading rockets full of water.</p><p> </p><p> 1) set up huge solar arrays in desert areas </p><p> 2) pump in the water</p><p> 3) split the water into hydrogen and oxygen components</p><p> 4) fill one balloon with hydrogen and and heat it, allowing it to tow the other balloon up</p><p> 5) let balloons climb to 100 ft up, where rocket plan will slow down and capture the balloons and move them up to speed</p><p> 6) pump the balloons empty (hydrogen and oxygen make great rocket fuel)</p><p> 7) return the balloons for another cycle</p><p> </p><p> 8) allow sever thousand years of repeating to make any noticeable dent in the water level</p><p> </p><p> 9) but the cost per pound to orbit should not be outrageous and the rocket fuel would help get solar shades in place that would have a far greater direct impact.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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