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<p>I love Samael. Especially "Ceremony of Opposites". </p><p> </p><p>

They used to play

</p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/RPzkYhKAjB8?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="SAMAEL - Baphomets Throne (OFFICIAL VIDEO)"></iframe></div></div> a lot on MTV's Headbangers Ball back in the days.<p> </p><p>

I also like "Worship Him", "Blood Ritual" and "Passage".</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Asaemon" data-cite="Asaemon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45985" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Remember this one from Headbangers Ball <div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Gtffv9bpB-U?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Green Jelly - Three Little Pigs (Official Video)"></iframe></div></div>?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I remember going to a Psychostick ( </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/DBOSkT-7jBE?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Psychostick - SO. HEAVY. [Official Music Video]"></iframe></div></div>) concert about ten years ago where the crappy openers covered Three Little Pigs and it was the only decent song they played. Their singer kept doing this weird impression of a turtle pulling its head into its shell while he was growling, the rest of the band looked really embarrassed. TL;DR don't go to a metal concert in Northeast Wyoming.
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Just gone back and listened to some Drowning Pool, and listened to the Sinner Album, the only album that I ever liked and its damn great/gold. I was wondering if there are any albums, tracks or anything with a dark instrumental, voice. I did a lot of research, but I found not that to my liking. Any thoughts?
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rhyme1234" data-cite="Rhyme1234" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45985" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just gone back and listened to some Drowning Pool, and listened to the Sinner Album, the only album that I ever liked and its damn great/gold. I was wondering if there are any albums, tracks or anything with a dark instrumental, voice. I did a lot of research, but I found not that to my liking. Any thoughts?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hmm, that's a tough one. There's a lot of metal built around dark instrumentals, but it's hard to think of a lot that sounds like Sinner. There were some bands around the same time that tried to do different stuff with nu metal like Drowning Pool did though. Spineshank, Adema, Fear Factory's Digimortal album (which I think got unfairly lumped into the nu metal hate train even though it's still clearly Fear Factory) and Snot are my favorites from that era. Hopefully that helps and I'm not just repeating suggestions you've already checked out.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Swanton825" data-cite="The Swanton825" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45985" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hmm, that's a tough one. There's a lot of metal built around dark instrumentals, but it's hard to think of a lot that sounds like Sinner. There were some bands around the same time that tried to do different stuff with nu metal like Drowning Pool did though. Spineshank, Adema, Fear Factory's Digimortal album (which I think got unfairly lumped into the nu metal hate train even though it's still clearly Fear Factory) and Snot are my favorites from that era. Hopefully that helps and I'm not just repeating suggestions you've already checked out.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was listening to the tribute album (Straight Up) by Snot (featuring metal legends) today, I loved every song on that album. Straight Up is something that is a really great album, especially the song Angel's Son by Seven-dust, personal favorite, can't get enough.<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rhyme1234" data-cite="Rhyme1234" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45985" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was listening to the tribute album (Straight Up) by Snot (featuring metal legends) today, I loved every song on that album. Straight Up is something that is a really great album, especially the song Angel's Son by Seven-dust, personal favorite, can't get enough.<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's great to see even for how obnoxious and unpleasant the nu metal scene could be at its height, they still could come together for a tribute album like that. Though I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious what those songs would've sounded like with Lynn Strait. I've wondered for a while how far Snot could've gone if he hadn't died. A lot like Drowning Pool in that respect come to think of it.</p>
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<p>Growing up in the Death Metal capitol of Tampa, Florida.</p><p> </p><p>

Death Metal is near and dear to my heart. But I listen to all kinds of metal, but like most genres of music, the new stuff really does nothing for me. </p><p> </p><p>

And when the bands who have been out longer put more effort into their music than a new band it's sad really. Most new bands I have come across have a couple of passable tracks on their albums, but nothing that's going to make me want to listen to the whole album.</p><p> </p><p>

I am not sure if it's the fact I've seen so many killer bands growing up, or the few years I spent working in the scene that I am kind of dis interested because I've seen it done better or what.</p><p> </p><p>

I will say this tho High on Fire's new album "Electric Messiah" is a crusher.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheGhost" data-cite="TheGhost" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45985" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I will say this tho High on Fire's new album "Electric Messiah" is a crusher.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Stoner metal is one of my favorites. Psychedelia and metal go so well together it should be a crime. I highly recommend checking out Realm, they're a new band not too far from me that sound like a cross between Mastodon and Monster Magnet. Plus their album covers are epic.</p><p> </p><p> Here's a link to their bandcamp if anyone's interested</p><p> <a href="https://realmknox.bandcamp.com/album/red-clay-dead-river" rel="external nofollow">https://realmknox.bandcamp.com/album/red-clay-dead-river</a></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheGhost" data-cite="TheGhost" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45985" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Growing up in the Death Metal capitol of Tampa, Florida.<p> </p><p> Death Metal is near and dear to my heart. But I listen to all kinds of metal, but like most genres of music, the new stuff really does nothing for me. </p><p> </p><p> And when the bands who have been out longer put more effort into their music than a new band it's sad really. Most new bands I have come across have a couple of passable tracks on their albums, but nothing that's going to make me want to listen to the whole album.</p><p> </p><p> I am not sure if it's the fact I've seen so many killer bands growing up, or the few years I spent working in the scene that I am kind of dis interested because I've seen it done better or what.</p><p> </p><p> I will say this tho High on Fire's new album "Electric Messiah" is a crusher.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh have you ever heard of Midvest? It's a German black/death metal band located in Cologne. I had a chance of watching them in Berlin 2 years ago during a business trip. Such a good luck it was, it was the most boring trip ever, I was looking for a <a href="https://tranio.com/commercial/germany/industrial/warehouse/" rel="external nofollow">warehouse for sale in Berlin</a> however it ended up with having a chance of watching them live <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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Anyone like industrial? I just discovered 3teeth and they're great.

 

Love industrial metal!

I was checking them out the other day, they sure are really good.

 

Here's some recommendations by me:

 

Ministry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste

Godflesh - Streetcleaner (1989)

Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral

Fear Factory - Demanufacture

Killing Joke - Pandemonium

Ministry - ΚΕΦΑΛΗΞΘ

Front Line Assembly - Millennium

Nine Inch Nails - Broken

16 Volt - Wisdom

Fear Factory - Obsolete

Rammstein - Sehnsucht

Pitch Shifter* - Industrial

Rammstein - Mutter (2001)

Marilyn Manson - Antichrist Superstar

 

There's more too. Its all up to discovering awesome stuff. Also newer industrial metal albums are popping up here and there.

 

Here's some modern industrial metal:

 

Rammstein - Rammstein

Minority Sound - Toxin

2 Wolves - ...Our Fault

Master Boot Record - Internet Protocol

Yerûšelem - The Sublime

Kinetik - Critical Fallout

Blaqk Audio - Only Things We Love

Uboa - The Origin Of My Depression

Yeruselem - The Sublime

Front Line Assembly - Wake Up the Coma

Anaal Nathrakh - A New Kind Of Horror

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The Eleven Types Of Nu Metal?

 

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Having studied nu metal for many years it has become apparent that nu metal is a diverse genre. This is part of the reason why there is a lot of hate directed at certain bands like Crazy Town and Limp Bizkit whereas other bands like Static X seem to get a free pass. When I grouped bands together by their flavour of nu metal I came up with these eleven categories:

 

 

: Coal Chamber, Kittie, Korn (self-titled), Deftones (Adrenaline), Taproot (Gift), Spineshank (Strictly Diesel), Staind (Dysfunction), Relative Ash

- Early releases in the era of nu metal

- Raw production value

- Moaning, wailing or hushed vocals with droning, monotonous guitar riffs

- No DJ scratching, but may have minor elements of drum programming

- Rapping is mostly non-committal, disguised as spoken word, scream-rapping or sing-rapping

 

 

: 12 Stones, Saliva, Sevenwiser, Crossfade, Soil, Evanescence, TRUSTcompany, Smile Empty Soul, Godsmack, Puddle of Mudd, Disturbed, Drowning Pool, Trapt

- Radio friendly Americanised sound

- A few songs contain rapping

- Likely to have guitar solos

- Likely to appear on WWF and superhero movie soundtracks

 

 

: Slipknot, American Head Charge, Mudvayne, Mushroomhead, Fear Factory (Digimortal), System Of A Down, Otep, Dry Kill Logic, Slaves On Dope, No One, Machine Head (The Burning Red)

- Horror aesthetic

- Darkest lyrical themes in the genre

- Highest level of aggression

 

 

: P.O.D., Soulfly, Hed P.E., Skindred, Darwin’s Waiting Room

- As the name suggests, contains elements of reggae and/or full reggae style songs

- Expect to see dreadlocks

 

 

: Linkin Park, Adema, Dry Cell, Level, Dope, From Zero, Twisted Method

- Includes Linkin Park clones

- Cutting-edge, futuristic or fantasy aesthetic

- Spiked hair

- Seamlessly flows between singing, sing-rapping and rapping

 

 

: Incubus (S.C.I.E.N.C.E.), Stepa, Hostile Groove, Sunk Loto, 40 Below Summer

- In almost all cases the vocalist is a white guy with dreadlocks

- Elements of funk or groove

- Some strange lyrics

 

 

: Primer 55, Limp Bizkit, Methods Of Mayhem, Crazy Town, Papa Roach

- Strong hip hop influence

- Rapping about gang violence, sex, drugs, alcohol etc.

- Self-promoting lyrics

- Definitely has DJ scratching

 

 

– Static X, Spineshank (The Height Of Callousness), Apartment 26, Pitchshifter, Celldweller

- Fast-paced drum programming

- Aspects of electronica

- Noisy

 

 

– Rage Against The Machine, Reveille, One Minute Silence, Clawfinger

- Includes Rage Against The Machine clones

- Likely to have political lyrics

- Mostly rapping and not much singing

 

 

– Alien Ant Farm, A, Zebrahead, Sum 41, Violent Delight, The Bloodhound Gang

- Mostly known for performing other genres of rock including pop-punk

- Certain tracks are clearly nu metal or influenced by nu metal

 

 

– Factory 81, Pressure 4-5, Number One Son

- Less well known / Underrated

- Willing to admit they are nu metal

- Style is considered highly derivative of more successful bands in the genre

- Have no specific characteristics which place them in the other categories

- Still kick ass

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rhyme1234" data-cite="Rhyme1234" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45985" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>The Eleven Types Of Nu Metal?</strong><p> </p><p> <a href="https://i.redd.it/w7eklg2ysie11.jpg" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="w7eklg2ysie11.jpg" data-src="https://i.redd.it/w7eklg2ysie11.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p><p> </p><p> Having studied nu metal for many years it has become apparent that nu metal is a diverse genre. This is part of the reason why there is a lot of hate directed at certain bands like Crazy Town and Limp Bizkit whereas other bands like Static X seem to get a free pass. When I grouped bands together by their flavour of nu metal I came up with these eleven categories:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/BiaRBni-1AQ?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Coal Chamber - Bradley"></iframe></div></div>: Coal Chamber, Kittie, Korn (self-titled), Deftones (Adrenaline), Taproot (Gift), Spineshank (Strictly Diesel), Staind (Dysfunction), Relative Ash<p> - Early releases in the era of nu metal</p><p> - Raw production value</p><p> - Moaning, wailing or hushed vocals with droning, monotonous guitar riffs</p><p> - No DJ scratching, but may have minor elements of drum programming</p><p> - Rapping is mostly non-committal, disguised as spoken word, scream-rapping or sing-rapping</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/R7z2lJhaFds?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Saliva - Your Disease (Official Video)"></iframe></div></div>: 12 Stones, Saliva, Sevenwiser, Crossfade, Soil, Evanescence, TRUSTcompany, Smile Empty Soul, Godsmack, Puddle of Mudd, Disturbed, Drowning Pool, Trapt<p> - Radio friendly Americanised sound</p><p> - A few songs contain rapping</p><p> - Likely to have guitar solos</p><p> - Likely to appear on WWF and superhero movie soundtracks</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/lRNYp1IiUuE?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Slipknot - My Plague [OFFICIAL VIDEO]"></iframe></div></div>: Slipknot, American Head Charge, Mudvayne, Mushroomhead, Fear Factory (Digimortal), System Of A Down, Otep, Dry Kill Logic, Slaves On Dope, No One, Machine Head (The Burning Red)<p> - Horror aesthetic</p><p> - Darkest lyrical themes in the genre</p><p> - Highest level of aggression</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ajm1Qx9duSQ?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="P.O.D. - Ridiculous (Feat. Eek-A-Mouse)"></iframe></div></div>: P.O.D., Soulfly, Hed P.E., Skindred, Darwin’s Waiting Room<p> - As the name suggests, contains elements of reggae and/or full reggae style songs</p><p> - Expect to see dreadlocks</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/iZVY32zplLk?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="LeVeL - Someday"></iframe></div></div>: Linkin Park, Adema, Dry Cell, Level, Dope, From Zero, <strong>Twisted Method</strong><p> - Includes Linkin Park clones</p><p> - Cutting-edge, futuristic or fantasy aesthetic</p><p> - Spiked hair</p><p> - Seamlessly flows between singing, sing-rapping and rapping</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/v9j3PWfzokY?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Incubus - New Skin (Official)"></iframe></div></div>: Incubus (S.C.I.E.N.C.E.), Stepa, Hostile Groove, Sunk Loto, 40 Below Summer<p> - In almost all cases the vocalist is a white guy with dreadlocks</p><p> - Elements of funk or groove</p><p> - Some strange lyrics</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ASoRiKGJRRA?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Primer 55 - G's"></iframe></div></div>: Primer 55, Limp Bizkit, Methods Of Mayhem, Crazy Town, Papa Roach<p> - Strong hip hop influence</p><p> - Rapping about gang violence, sex, drugs, alcohol etc.</p><p> - Self-promoting lyrics</p><p> - Definitely has DJ scratching</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/jhWKSg6CSxc?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Spineshank - Cyanide 2600"></iframe></div></div> – Static X, Spineshank (The Height Of Callousness), Apartment 26, Pitchshifter, Celldweller<p> - Fast-paced drum programming</p><p> - Aspects of electronica</p><p> - Noisy</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/5Z9XnMMtMe8?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="One Minute Silence - New Dogs New Tricks"></iframe></div></div> – Rage Against The Machine, Reveille, One Minute Silence, Clawfinger<p> - Includes Rage Against The Machine clones</p><p> - Likely to have political lyrics</p><p> - Mostly rapping and not much singing</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/vNQi7T-ELRo?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="zebrahead falling apart"></iframe></div></div> – Alien Ant Farm, A, Zebrahead, Sum 41, Violent Delight, The Bloodhound Gang<p> - Mostly known for performing other genres of rock including pop-punk</p><p> - Certain tracks are clearly nu metal or influenced by nu metal</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/asXL-I0ZXbM?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Switched - Reflections"></iframe></div></div> – Factory 81, Pressure 4-5, Number One Son<p> - Less well known / Underrated</p><p> - Willing to admit they are nu metal</p><p> - Style is considered highly derivative of more successful bands in the genre</p><p> - Have no specific characteristics which place them in the other categories</p><p> - Still kick ass</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The mere fact anyone outside of Florida even remembers Twisted Method blows my mind haha.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheGhost" data-cite="TheGhost" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45985" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The mere fact anyone outside of Florida even remembers Twisted Method blows my mind haha.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I still love Twisted Method. Escape from Cape Coma still gets regular playtime.</p>
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<p>I lived in the area they are from during high school and saw them well over a dozen times in person and got to know them a little bit. I remember when they were telling us what the name of the album was going to be called and a lot of us scratched our heads because we were not sure if anyone outside of Cape Coral would get the album title.</p><p> </p><p>

It's really a shame that the record bombed, they toured like mad men from Ozzfest 2003 up until about 2005ish, but they just couldn't make it work.</p><p> </p><p>

They did however do a reunion show a few years back and it sold out quickly, some friends of mine went and said they sounded great, but it was for the most part a one off it seemed.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheGhost" data-cite="TheGhost" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45985" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I lived in the area they are from during high school and saw them well over a dozen times in person and got to know them a little bit. I remember when they were telling us what the name of the album was going to be called and a lot of us scratched our heads because we were not sure if anyone outside of Cape Coral would get the album title.<p> </p><p> It's really a shame that the record bombed, they toured like mad men from Ozzfest 2003 up until about 2005ish, but they just couldn't make it work.</p><p> </p><p> They did however do a reunion show a few years back and it sold out quickly, some friends of mine went and said they sounded great, but it was for the most part a one off it seemed.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I got to meet Tripp when he was touring as a member of Dope and he was kind of a tool.</p>
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