Official Game Thread- Barebones 4 Mafia (The Revival November 2018)

[machinesxe]

The question is do we have to worry about the guy you targeted night uno?

[machinesxe]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can't say with any real certainty at the moment. There are plenty of roles on both sides that wouldn't cause cappy to have been told someone targeted him. Can rule out that person being a killer, inventor, thief(I think? Maybe he wouldn't be told he got stole from?), or a roleblock, though, so that's a start.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well we know someone was stole from last night or at least that it seems that way. Arrows, Anti we know you two were in that write up and two others is assumed. Did either if you get something stolen?</p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="machinesxe" data-cite="machinesxe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well we know someone was stole from last night or at least that it seems that way. Arrows, Anti we know you two were in that write up and two others is assumed. Did either if you get something stolen?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wasn't told that I had anything stolen. I figure Anti would've mentioned something by now. Maybe the thief doesn't prompt the person stolen from being told they lost an item.</p><p> </p><p> Wonder what got stolen.</p>

[Destiny]

Thieves usually steal abilities right? So they can use the ability they stole on the next night?

[Crychon]

A lot of the time a Thief role doesn’t actually stop the person from using the ability. They just gain the ability to use it themselves.

[BlueStar]

Still here ... a Thief role could be in there, just wondering how close that would be to Rev's role (Student) ... seems a bit familiar. Then again, we have a whole army of blockers it seems.

[eayragt]

Poor Anti. We lynch him unless the scum bus / van driver says he interfered with the night results. Methinks that isn't going to happen.

[BlueStar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eayragt" data-cite="eayragt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Poor Anti. We lynch him unless the scum bus / van driver says he interfered with the night results. Methinks that isn't going to happen.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, probably the van driver would a too obvious write-up for a bus driver. Not sure... could be. What is a fact is that the van driver couldn't do anything N1 and he did start his car N2. If he's a bus driver and the targets are involved in this discussion, he could clear things out (I don't want to lynch the town vig but neither do I want to expose the real vig if Anti's claim is fake). If he's not involved, he should stay quiet. In game I'm not too fond of bus drivers but no use in exposing a town role.</p>

[BlueStar]

<p>We got a few options.</p><p> </p><p>

If Anti is the scum goon...</p><p> </p><p>

* someone got a kill in with a gun (on red scum btw) and that person was not active N1 for killing.</p><p>

* We might still have a real town vig</p><p>

* we still need to take care of the poisoner.</p><p> </p><p>

If Anti is the town vig...</p><p> </p><p>

* see point 1</p><p>

* see point 3</p><p>

* we need to wonder what happened to the scum killer ... would he shoot one of his own team? Another bus driver thing is the only reason this could be the case.</p>

[BlueStar]

<p>I'll be around for the latter part of this day phase as well to vote. Want to see if anything comes up. And we don't celebrate thanksgiving in Europe. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I'll be offline to catch my zzzz's in about an hour or 2.</p>

[theoutlaw321]

<p>A mistake/oversight was brought to my attention. I had the remaining number of players incorrect. I had 23 instead of 22. It doesn't change the required votes. Seems someone had failed to move Derek's name to the graveyard. I apologize for the oversight. </p><p> </p><p>

So no Blue, Derek will not reappear as zombie.</p><p>

Thanks for pointing it out.</p>

[moon_lit_tears]

<p>Okay so here is my problem with the whole Anti arrows situation.</p><p> </p><p>

If Arrows and Anti are targeting each other, then the bus driver shows up, he or she switches Antis target to the thief, Then either scum, or an SK killed the scum who died. We know that it wouldn't be scum killing scum. So where is the scum kill for the night? If it was blocked why hasn't a blocker came out and said so? </p><p> </p><p>

Am I wrong in this line of thinking?</p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Okay so here is my problem with the whole Anti arrows situation.<p> </p><p> If Arrows and Anti are targeting each other, then the bus driver shows up, he or she switches Antis target to the thief, Then either scum, or an SK killed the scum who died. We know that it wouldn't be scum killing scum. So where is the scum kill for the night? If it was blocked why hasn't a blocker came out and said so? </p><p> </p><p> Am I wrong in this line of thinking?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There was no bus driver around us. The odds it would take for things to work out with zero confusion across the board for what happened last night with a bus driver influencing it are... low. I'd bet a dozen doughnuts on it.</p><p> </p><p> A bus driver may have influenced the kill on the red maf. I can't speak to that, though I'd love to know more about targets swapped by the driver.</p>

[ShadowedFlames]

<p>Arrows, simple nod or shake.</p><p> </p><p>

In the box?</p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ShadowedFlames" data-cite="ShadowedFlames" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Arrows, simple nod or shake.<p> </p><p> In the box?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No, but...</p><p> </p><p> /nod</p>

[Rayelek]

<p>Halfway point in my holiday travels. Just in case the vote gets too high before I'm back on, I don't want to risk lynching the town Vig.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Change vote: No Lynch</strong></p><p> </p><p>

Worst case, I'll still check in before bed today and tomorrow.</p>

[BlueStar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There was no bus driver around us. The odds it would take for things to work out with zero confusion across the board for what happened last night with a bus driver influencing it are... low. I'd bet a dozen doughnuts on it.<p> </p><p> A bus driver may have influenced the kill on the red maf. I can't speak to that, though I'd love to know more about targets swapped by the driver.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> /nod</p><p> </p><p> Keep this full post in mind though.</p>

[BlueStar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Halfway point in my holiday travels. Just in case the vote gets too high before I'm back on, I don't want to risk lynching the town Vig.<p> </p><p> <strong>Change vote: No Lynch</strong></p><p> </p><p> Worst case, I'll still check in before bed today and tomorrow.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I would think that would be a "no vote" instead of a "no lynch". </p><p> </p><p> But I'm not claiming <strong><span style="color:#0000FF;">Town Aligned Clairvoyant</span></strong> yet... <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[theoutlaw321]

<p><strong>Antithesis-8</strong> (Arrows, Crychon, eayragt, The Archer, BHK1978, Jaded, machinesxe, Shadowedflames)</p><p>

<strong>No Lynch-1</strong> (Rayelek)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<strong>It is now DAY PHASE. With 22 players remaining, it's 12 to lynch. </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

You have until 6:00PM EST (11:00PM GMT) on Friday, November 23rd to reach a majority vote. If no vote has been reached at that time, a No Lynch will be declared.</strong></p><p><strong>

As always, if you see a mistake point it out.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="font-size:12px;">Happy Thanksgiving!</span></strong></p>

[moon_lit_tears]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There was no bus driver around us. The odds it would take for things to work out with zero confusion across the board for what happened last night with a bus driver influencing it are... low. I'd bet a dozen doughnuts on it.<p> </p><p> A bus driver may have influenced the kill on the red maf. I can't speak to that, though I'd love to know more about targets swapped by the driver.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Does the “their” role target, or get targeted. ? </p><p> </p><p> If they get targeted that would throw a mess out there, no?</p>

[moon_lit_tears]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does the “thief” role target, or get targeted. ? <p> </p><p> If they get targeted that would throw a mess out there, no?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fixed my typos</p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Fixed my typos</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They target someone. Both times so far, the person stolen from was unaware someone was there doing that.</p>

[moon_lit_tears]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They target someone. Both times so far, the person stolen from was unaware someone was there doing that.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hmmm.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So if we are to believe Anti is vig, what is the EP kill? Bussed scum hitting themself. Not sure it reads that way to me.<p> </p><p> However there has been no counter claim and the Vig is a very common role here...</p><p> </p><p> I'm split. I'll give it some thought.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just by looking at the writeup for the Phoenix kill I am not reading it as a bus driver. To me it reads as the VIG knew that their target was who they were targeting.</p>

[BlueStar]

Back in about 8h of sleep....we got time...