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I've said this before and I'll say it again. If I don't have anything to add, I'm not going to post. I wil not post extraneous fluff just to inflate my post count, lest someone accuse me of being scum for doing that. Oh wait, I'm being accused of being scum because I'm not doing that. Apparently I can't win.

 

 

Anything standing out to you yet? I know you’re a quiet player, but 7 post by day three is pretty low. Give a general overall feel of the game so far. What direction could you see the town taking today?

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With nobody dying last night this phase we should at least be able to hear from everyone in the game. Enough time has passed I feel like everyone should have something to offer at this point beyond restating what happened in the writeup.

 

I’m curious to see how the scum radar is looking for everyone at the moment

 

I still have Archer/Lukess at the top personally

 

I agree with the Archer/Lukess direction, and would like everyone to drop in as well.

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I agree with the Archer/Lukess direction, and would like everyone to drop in as well.

 

I don't hate starting on that route and seeing what develops. Originally I looked at their back and forth as town/town but we needed a route and so I went with Archer since he already had votes on him. It'd be nice to get some closure and have a better understanding of the late vote rusher's intentions.

 

And Lukess has been on a lot of radars and the target of some "metaphorical gunshots" last day phase. Worth examining closer.

 

BTW: What do you make of the votes on you last day phase (scum or misguided)? Or the ISO I did about you?

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I don't hate starting on that route and seeing what develops. Originally I looked at their back and forth as town/town but we needed a route and so I went with Archer since he already had votes on him. It'd be nice to get some closure and have a better understanding of the late vote rusher's intentions.

 

And Lukess has been on a lot of radars and the target of some "metaphorical gunshots" last day phase. Worth examining closer.

 

BTW: What do you make of the votes on you last day phase (scum or misguided)? Or the ISO I did about you?

 

Honestly a little bit of each? Like I said yesterday. We have this stupid misguided play of attacking those who talk. I get asking questions and the pleasure vipite or two, but a few of those votes are more than likely a scum or two. Who? I don’t know.

 

I’m all for it though. It gets conversation going.

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I don't hate starting on that route and seeing what develops. Originally I looked at their back and forth as town/town but we needed a route and so I went with Archer since he already had votes on him. It'd be nice to get some closure and have a better understanding of the late vote rusher's intentions.

 

And Lukess has been on a lot of radars and the target of some "metaphorical gunshots" last day phase. Worth examining closer.

 

BTW: What do you make of the votes on you last day phase (scum or misguided)? Or the ISO I did about you?

 

My thoughts on Archer are he is an abrasive player. I still don't get how I look scummy. If you look at my games, it takes me a phase and a half or so to formulate reads. Once I get them, they are pretty good. Other than Archer, Blue makes me a little concerned due to not being on much. I think he said he was on holiday, but I do want to hear from him as he is such a good player.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My thoughts on Archer are he is an abrasive player. I still don't get how I look scummy. If you look at my games, it takes me a phase and a half or so to formulate reads. Once I get them, they are pretty good. Other than Archer, Blue makes me a little concerned due to not being on much. I think he said he was on holiday, but I do want to hear from him as he is such a good player.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> For me, I felt like you were getting defensive quickly with Archer and a few other times before that. Like annoyed that people would consider you as scum.</p><p> </p><p> I'm not sure what to make of that, truthfully. It made me not fully trust you though.</p><p> </p><p> Honest question I have for you:</p><p> Do you play the game as everyone is innocent until found guilty?</p><p> Or as everyone is guilty until found innocent?</p><p> </p><p> Because I feel like I play the second way but you play the first way.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For me, I felt like you were getting defensive quickly with Archer and a few other times before that. Like annoyed that people would consider you as scum.<p> </p><p> I'm not sure what to make of that, truthfully. It made me not fully trust you though.</p><p> </p><p> Honest question I have for you:</p><p> Do you play the game as everyone is innocent until found guilty?</p><p> Or as everyone is guilty until found innocent?</p><p> </p><p> Because I feel like I play the second way but you play the first way.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I tend to play the first way. It lets me see clearer in the beginning who is acting shady. If I play the second way, I would get too paranoid and not trust my reads or other people even when proven innocent.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I tend to play the first way. It lets me see clearer in the beginning who is acting shady. If I play the second way, I would get too paranoid and not trust my reads or other people even when proven innocent.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Alright, that's what I thought. I think that's something that just naturally feels super scummy to me. But I liked a point EP made a few day phases ago about needing all types of players to be an effective town. </p><p> </p><p> Anyway, I feel like you've been playing too passively. That's frustrating because it's happening with too many people. But being fair, I'm trying to get better at being more aggressive with my reads/thoughts too. </p><p> </p><p> And to all of our credit this game's activity is looking pretty good compared to previous ones.</p><p> </p><p> Back to you, Lukess. Few more questions.</p><p> </p><p> 1. Last day phase you mentioned Archer, The Two, and Zergon as people you're weary on. You still feeling that way or have your thoughts changed?</p><p> </p><p> 2. How do you feel about Showtime? Do you believe the claim/alignment? </p><p> </p><p> 3. How many people do you think are on the scum team?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Emark" data-cite="Emark" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would like to hear from Destiny as well. I know he’s busy with his sister but his insights are always appreciated.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm all caught up with the write-up. Not much information there so looks like we may be relying on abilities this phase, which I can't help with too much.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If we're currently calling out people it'd be nice to hear from, I'll like to throw in Bluestar. I feel like we've heard barely anything from him at this point which is disappointing since his outlook is usually pretty helpful.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't want to be a hypocrite as I know I've been much quieter than usual but I'd also like to hear from BlueStar.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My thoughts on Archer are he is an abrasive player. I still don't get how I look scummy. If you look at my games, it takes me a phase and a half or so to formulate reads. Once I get them, they are pretty good. Other than Archer, Blue makes me a little concerned due to not being on much. I think he said he was on holiday, but I do want to hear from him as he is such a good player.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We're on day three now buddy, time for those reads to be formulated. I am unsure about you...</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Alright, that's what I thought. I think that's something that just naturally feels super scummy to me. But I liked a point EP made a few day phases ago about needing all types of players to be an effective town. <p> </p><p> Anyway, I feel like you've been playing too passively. That's frustrating because it's happening with too many people. But being fair, I'm trying to get better at being more aggressive with my reads/thoughts too. </p><p> </p><p> And to all of our credit this game's activity is looking pretty good compared to previous ones.</p><p> </p><p> Back to you, Lukess. Few more questions.</p><p> </p><p> 1. Last day phase you mentioned Archer, The Two, and Zergon as people you're weary on. You still feeling that way or have your thoughts changed?</p><p> </p><p> 2. How do you feel about Showtime? Do you believe the claim/alignment? </p><p> </p><p> 3. How many people do you think are on the scum team?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> 1. After hearing Two defend himself, I do feel better about him. Maybe not a town lean yet, but getting there. Zergon is someone I am still shaky about in the long run pulling the wools over our eyes as a newbie.</p><p> </p><p> 2. I don't know about Showtime. He is normally someone that takes me a while to read. I have a theory on what he is if his claim is false, but don't want to reveal yet.</p><p> </p><p> 3. Probably between 3 and 5.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>1. After hearing Two defend himself, I do feel better about him. Maybe not a town lean yet, but getting there. Zergon is someone I am still shaky about in the long run pulling the wools over our eyes as a newbie.<p> </p><p> 2. I don't know about Showtime. He is normally someone that takes me a while to read. I have a theory on what he is if his claim is false, but don't want to reveal yet.</p><p> </p><p> 3. Probably between 3 and 5.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> 1. Since that same post, who do you feel worse about?</p><p> 2. Alright, I'm fine with giving a bit of patience and letting things develop.</p><p> 3. So not 18, great. If you had to give an exact number, what would you think?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>1. Since that same post, who do you feel worse about?<p> 2. Alright, I'm fine with giving a bit of patience and letting things develop.</p><p> 3. So not 18, great. If you had to give an exact number, what would you think?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> 1. As mentioned earlier, Blue not being here makes me wary. I also feel a little worse about mlt after reading the end of last phase.</p><p> 2. 4</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>1. As mentioned earlier, Blue not being here makes me wary. I also feel a little worse about mlt after reading the end of last phase.<p> 2. 4</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What part exactly?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What part exactly?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The whole interaction in general. Not confident enough to place a vote on you but am a little sus. If I were dj, you would have gotten one or two s placed next to your name.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The whole interaction in general. Not confident enough to place a vote on you but am a little sus. If I were dj, you would have gotten one or two s placed next to your name.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> But nothing specific I said? Just...everything? That seems....like a cop out to me.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Basically by the end of me catching up, The Two had somewhat convinced me that he wasn't scum. <p> </p><p> Archer I'm not so sure of, but being abrasive (I guess that could be a word to describe his style?) isn't exactly scummy and while I agree we could be better off looking at other avenues at the moment. </p><p> </p><p> Unfortunately I'm not one to ask as I tend to be on the quieter side but anyway, here I am. Going to bed in an hour or so, hoping to make sense of everything. I'm glad no one died, though. Good save by the robo-doc.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ok, thanks for the answers.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>With nobody dying last night this phase we should at least be able to hear from everyone in the game. Enough time has passed I feel like everyone should have something to offer at this point beyond restating what happened in the writeup. <p> </p><p> I’m curious to see how the scum radar is looking for everyone at the moment</p><p> </p><p> I still have Archer/Lukess at the top personally</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Afraid I have to disappoint you here. Mostly looking for less active players at the moment but that´s more in order to try to get the contribute rather than thinging they might be scum hiding. I think part of my problem is that I haven´t done good job with taking notes so I need to try to get better at that.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>1. After hearing Two defend himself, I do feel better about him. Maybe not a town lean yet, but getting there. Zergon is someone I am still shaky about in the long run pulling the wools over our eyes as a newbie.<p> </p><p> 2. I don't know about Showtime. He is normally someone that takes me a while to read. I have a theory on what he is if his claim is false, but don't want to reveal yet.</p><p> </p><p> 3. Probably between 3 and 5.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As I said at the end of last phase, feel free to ask questions to me.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>But nothing specific I said? Just...everything? That seems....like a cop out to me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's a very slight lean. Nothing I want to act on yet but just enough to peak my interest.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="color:#FF0000;"><strong>Vote: The Archer</strong></span>Only because I just saw Rev's post leave MLT, which is where I was heading.<p> </p><p> Something needs to happen one way or another.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> of all the votes that piled on at the end of the phase this is by far the worst one. it is hedgy af.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Spartan:<p> </p><p> 1. How many groups do you think there are? (anyone that can speak out of thread)</p><p> </p><p> 2. Strongest and least strong reads whether it be town or scum?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Glad you're actually asking questions back. This is what I meant by not just being passive/defensive.</p><p> </p><p> 1. Two. Ain't no cult that I've seen any of these night phases.</p><p> </p><p> 2.</p><p> Strongest town lean: DJ.</p><p> Weak town lean: Rev.</p><p> Strongest scum lean: I think an inactive as lame as it is to say. Eliphas if I had to choose one right now.</p><p> Weakest scum lean: Leion. It's still a nagging feeling from day one and the cult conversation. Fair? probably not, but that's why it's a weak feeling. </p><p> </p><p> I don't personally have any other questions for you at the moment, Lukess. I'm heading out for the moment but I'll see what others think and what has happened/developed when I'm back.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I assume it's a leftover from the silly games not on this sight. Lock the thread until day phase! Why? It's so townies can't throw a post in there to remind others that they love to be watched at night, so people know what happened to them if they die..... <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> yeah cause gds is the only ones that play right. <span class="ipsEmoji">🙄</span></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Archer" data-cite="The Archer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>yeah cause gds is the only ones that play right. <span class="ipsEmoji">🙄</span></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Dude, just stop. Move on.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's an actual rule in place at mafiascum.net (I think that's right). They literally lock the thread to ensure the rule is in place. Show was right, I'm just aggravating him.</div></blockquote><p> its standard the few places ive checked out</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Would you like to share some of those better targets?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ep, mlt, and dj</p>
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