Chaos On The Clarke! [Starship Mafia 1] Game Thread

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Disgruntled crewman, orange.<p> </p><p> I still stand by MLT, lukess, and Leion. At least one is scum.</p><p> </p><p> Eli was giving me scum vibes with Archer. I know Archer flipped town, but the way Eli was defending him just came off scummy. Bluestar finally pops back up when there is an open opportunity to lynch someone he knows is not scum and have a viable excuse.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Alright, thanks.</p>

[Imarevenant]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Night Zero</strong><p> <span style="color:#FF8C00;"><strong>A young man stands behind a podium, speaking to a crowd of indeterminate size.</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#008000;">”The leadership on this ship is not very...leaderly...But I would be a better leader! I have things to say! I have things to do! We will achieve objectives, and go places, and meet aliens! Cool aliens!”</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#808080;">”Hear here!”</span></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#006400;">The man behind the podium blinks, and squints.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#008000;">”Really, you’re the only one again? We’ll have to work on that.”</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong><span style="font-size:14px;">Night One</span></strong><p> </p><p> People hustle and fly through a busy corridor. A woman spots someone she knows and slips an earpiece into her friend's pocket. Another man walks calmly, patting a fellow crewman on the back as he passes. The calm man smiles and pauses. <strong><span style="color:#FF8C00;">A young man runs up to him.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FFA500;">"Sir, do you have a moment?"</span></p><p> </p><p> His smile persisting, he shakes his head and continues on his way, the youngster quickly lost in the shuffle of people behind him.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong><span style="font-size:14px;">Night Two</span></strong><p> A young man walks through the hall. He walks with purpose, but never speaks to anyone.</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#006400;">A young girl takes the knife she had borrowed</span></strong> and sneaks up behind the crew member. He suspects nothing as he goes about his duties. One cut across his neck and she slips back into the halls among the others.</p><p> </p><p> =======================================</p><p> </p><p> A gruff, older man talks with other members of the crew. As they talk, a woman passes by. She attempts to drop something in his pocket, but gets bumped by a stranger and her item falls to the floor, swiftly crushed under a boot.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#8B0000;"><em>"So sorry, that was an accident. I didn't mean to break it."</em></span></p><p> </p><p> His focus broken from the conversation, the gruff man turns to the woman, who apologizes quietly and walks off.<strong><span style="color:#FF8C00;"> A young man approaches the group, hesitates, and then keeps walking.</span></strong> A passenger, dressed to the nines, stands at a corner, observing the scene.</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> So which are you?</p><p> </p><p> The <strong><span style="color:#FF8C00;">young man</span></strong> or the<span style="color:#006400;"><strong> girl with the knife?</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> And which one is DJ?</p>

[i effin rule]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So which are you?<p> </p><p> The <strong><span style="color:#FF8C00;">young man</span></strong> or the<span style="color:#006400;"><strong> girl with the knife?</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> And which one is DJ?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't go out at night, so none of them? My assumption is that there is another with my alignment and I am the "hear here" person. Nothing in my role leads me to believe I am the podium guy, but I suppose it is possible. But I definitely do not go out at night.</p>

[Imarevenant]

<p>That's the thing. At this point in time I believe the Hear Here person to be the little girl</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Night Zero</strong><p> </p><p> A young man stands behind a podium, speaking to a crowd of indeterminate size.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#008000;">”The leadership on this ship is not very...leaderly...But I would be a better leader! I have things to say! I have things to do! We will achieve objectives, and go places, and meet aliens! Cool aliens!”</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#808080;">”Hear here!”</span></p><p> </p><p> <strong>The man behind the podium blinks, and squints.</strong></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#008000;">”Really, you’re the only one again? We’ll have to work on that.”</span></p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is why the Young Man at the podium has to squint and is surprised by just who piped in with the Hear here!</p><p> </p><p> It's nice to see that you two haven't been able to actually recruit anyone yet.</p><p> </p><p> Although if you would have had a successful recruitment, DJ would have just pushed forward the "it's a scum recruitment nonsense."</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So, this? What do you make of it?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sure. I believe we seen him before. If that would have been Opulent v1 he was talking to, it would have gone down different.<p> </p><p> </p><p> The scum team can do more than one thing at night. He was a recruiter or an investigator for scum. That I'm not sure about, but I feel that it was a recruiter... and yes, failing. Scum recruitment is very limited, not so much limitation for a cult.</p><p> </p><p> This, out of everything, is what caught Emark's eye.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He even went so far as to try and frame the orange text scum from the night 0 write up as the one trying to recruit. </p><p> </p><p> Seen here underlined:</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Night Zero</strong><p> A quiet room, luxurious, but not overly so. A group sits around a table covered in food and paperwork.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FF0000;">”So everyone knows the plan? You know what you need to do?”</span></p><p> </p><p> <strong><em><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#FFA500;">”Yes boss. We’ve all got our jobs. You just sit tight and we’ll take care of everything.”</span></span></em></strong></p><p> </p></div></blockquote> <p> </p><p> Definitely not the same Young Man wondering around trying to recruit people.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Let's not even get into how he initially tried to downplay the presence of a cult like group from the beginning of the game.</p><p> </p><p> Here's a couple of those, don't have time to find them all. Notice, how he insists on downplaying a cult from the very beginning of the game.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Grats.<img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Scum calling out the cult?</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm not sure that was the aim of it though. IF it was in the scum section (or at least environment), I would think that was an Usurper. Right now, I'm leaning two ways, which means at least one of those are wrong. I need more information to make a reasonable decision.<p> </p><p> The evidence your talking about, doesn't it seem a bit too out in the open?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm asking because you brought it up. I'm very doubtful to be honest, but I like to hear others thoughts, especially when I'm having scummy vibes from them.<img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> </p><p> Someone correct me if I'm wrong/or if things have changed.</p><p> </p><p> In it's purest form (I believe...so much stuff out there now), a cult basically recruits one person each night. No matter what, unless they hit scum that person becomes part of the cult. Sometimes you can see it in the night write-up sometimes not (like everything really). </p><p> </p><p> With there being an actual scum team of say... four or five people, a cult added to that in a game this size can seem to be a bit much/unbalanced. However, to be fair if the cult it limited (can only recruit "x" amount, or only certain people), it can balance out just fine.</p><p> </p><p> On a personal observation: I've never played a mod done by Rayelek, I don't believe... The excitement from people that read the outline, that I have played games they have made, leads me to think that Rayeleks game (this game) might have way more to it then how it appears in the write-up.</p><p> </p><p> This leads me to believe the "cult" theory may have a bit of credibility to it. </p><p> </p><p> Now, I also have a couple of theories that doesn't have anything to do with a cult. If Ray is half as resourceful as I believe him to be, a cult just seems to me to be a little too blunt/in our faces... but then again I only see Leion actually reading it anywhere near how I read it (at least that commented on it).</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Then there is the soft defense of IER even with the scum result.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> It's all adding up as to why you've been off to me this game DJ.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Anyhow, I know how you lot are and we'll need more evidence before most are willing to jump right at DJ. So <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: i effin rule</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> Let's do the mechanically correct thing first, shall we.</p>

[lukess11]

<p>I've seen enough to convince me that IER needs to be lynched. Too many good points being made by others.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: i effin rule</span></strong></p>

[i effin rule]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's the thing. At this point in time I believe the Hear Here person to be the little girl<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> This is why the Young Man at the podium has to squint and is surprised by just who piped in with the Hear here!</p><p> </p><p> It's nice to see that you two haven't been able to actually recruit anyone yet.</p><p> </p><p> Although if you would have had a successful recruitment, DJ would have just pushed forward the "it's a scum recruitment nonsense."</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> He even went so far as to try and frame the orange text scum from the night 0 write up as the one trying to recruit. </p><p> </p><p> Seen here underlined:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Definitely not the same Young Man wondering around trying to recruit people.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Let's not even get into how he initially tried to downplay the presence of a cult like group from the beginning of the game.</p><p> </p><p> Here's a couple of those, don't have time to find them all. Notice, how he insists on downplaying a cult from the very beginning of the game.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Then there is the soft defense of IER even with the scum result.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> It's all adding up as to why you've been off to me this game DJ.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Anyhow, I know how you lot are and we'll need more evidence before most are willing to jump right at DJ. So <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: i effin rule</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> Let's do the mechanically correct thing first, shall we.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Then I guess the truth is soft. I've been 100% honest. I've said from very early on that I don't go out and am passive. Why on earth would I do that? I know I'm not great at this, but you can't think I'm that dumb?</p><p> </p><p> I've done my best to aid the crew, I've been up front about my ability from the start, and I've answered all questions asked. At this point there isn't anything else I can do. People can either believe me or not.</p>

[i effin rule]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've seen enough to convince me that IER needs to be lynched. Too many good points being made by others.<p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: i effin rule</span></strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Scum.</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> I don't argue the result but I do argue the implication. I do have a different alignment, but it is still pro town.<strong> The only difference in win condition is that for me to win the Captain has to die </strong>(no I didn't kill him). I assume there are more with the same alignment, but I don't know. I can't talk to anyone and am legit a pc geek.</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ??????????????????</p><p> </p><p> You are pro town (crew aligned) but the only way you can win is if the captain of the crew is dead??????</p><p> </p><p> Sounds more like an indy group you’re alluding to if you ask me. I don’t think you’re lying, but I doubt it’s pro town</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

I’m feeling more in line with rev right now actually, especially since DJ was so quick to shoot down a third group earlier in the game when Archer/Lukess we’re going at it.

[moon_lit_tears]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am pushing because earlier you seemed to be asking questions and I want to sort your slot. The more interaction I have with you the better I can ascertain your alignment. <p> </p><p> Is there anyone else that sticks out to you? Has your views of certain players changed after The Archer flip, or not?</p></div></blockquote><p> I think either Luke or Lieon are scum. So no. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>??????????????????<p> </p><p> You are pro town (crew aligned) but the only way you can win is if the captain of the crew is dead??????</p><p> </p><p> Sounds more like an indy group you’re alluding to if you ask me. I don’t think you’re lying, but I doubt it’s pro town</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> That’s my question.</p><p> </p><p> Does your PM say he was doing a bad job? Not gonna lie but your role seems a bit cultish. Mutiny on a ship is when people join forces against the captain. Are you trying to recruit people to your side?</p>

[i effin rule]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>??????????????????<p> </p><p> You are pro town (crew aligned) but the only way you can win is if the captain of the crew is dead??????</p><p> </p><p> Sounds more like an indy group you’re alluding to if you ask me. I don’t think you’re lying, but I doubt it’s pro town</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I am pro town, not crew aligned and it isn't really a strange setup.</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

If anything I get the vibe that the disgruntled members want to overthrow the ship and have all the power. 4-8 are the amount of potential people you could recruit.

[i effin rule]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think either Luke or Lieon are scum. So no. <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> That’s my question.</p><p> </p><p> Does your PM say he was doing a bad job? Not gonna lie but your role seems a bit cultish. Mutiny on a ship is when people join forces against the captain. Are you trying to recruit people to your side?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Don't go out, so no I'm not recruiting. People come to me with complaints and I came to the conclusion we need new leadership. I am/was against the Captain but not the crew.</p>

[Guest Eliphas]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Don't go out, so no I'm not recruiting. People come to me with complaints and I came to the conclusion we need new leadership. I am/was against the Captain but not the crew.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So you have a conditional win condition? You still need the town to win?</p>

[i effin rule]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So you have a conditional win condition? You still need the town to win?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Correct.</p>

[Guest Eliphas]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Correct.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's tough if it's true.</p>

[Guest Eliphas]

<p>Hit post before I was done.</p><p> </p><p>

That would be a twist to overcome as a role.</p>

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<p>Rev's post (#1277) is crazy. That's not a judgment of it, just that I didn't see what he was talking about at all but it makes a lot of sense to me.</p><p> </p><p>

I'm bringing it up because I don't want it getting lost in the shuffle in all the craziness of this day phase so far.</p>

[Guest Opulent]

<p>So, my long catchup post was obviously delayed. I apologize greatly for my absence but no point dwelling on it. </p><p> </p><p>

I have up to page 77 catch typed on my laptop to post later. As of right now, catching up the rest on mobile. </p><p> </p><p>

Current live thoughts: I thought Rev was opportunistically jumping on Showtime’s claim to setup a mislynch and trying to analyze the voting patterns to appear town. However, now that I see Showtime backtrack on his claim, then claiming EP in his top 3 reads, that sounds like a harsh slip. tables have turned on that read.</p>

[Guest Opulent]

Should probably chime in on the lynch as well, but I said it during Day 2 that it felt like an opportunistic wagon on an inactive. Of course, he did himself 0 favours with his attitude so I can’t judge harshly. I agree on pursuing every name from the voted for him twice list

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Opulent" data-cite="Opulent" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have up to page 77 catch typed on my laptop to post later. As of right now, catching up the rest on mobile. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How many posts do you have set up to be on a page? I'd suggest switching to the max (40 posts) so it is easier to navigate through the thread.</p><p> </p><p> But that'll mess up your notes if you reference page numbers. That's why I reference the actual post number. Like the post I just made about Rev's thoughts.</p><p> </p><p> Either way, it'd be helpful to have you back if you can stay active.</p>

[BlueStar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That is what I was told.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Mutineer and I don't consider myself non crew, but I have no idea if that number includes me or not.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Because I didn't think he was doing a good job. My title isn't pc geek, it is the type of role I have.<p> </p><p> Totes scum, btw.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Disgruntled crewman, orange.<p> </p><p> I still stand by MLT, lukess, and Leion. At least one is scum.</p><p> </p><p> Eli was giving me scum vibes with Archer. I know Archer flipped town, but the way Eli was defending him just came off scummy. Bluestar finally pops back up when there is an open opportunity to lynch someone <strong>he knows</strong> is not scum and have a viable excuse.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm worried that having this role (Disgruntled crewman, mutineer) doesn't add up with claimed ability. And I don't know anything, I'm not leading this charge. </p><p> </p><p> But you have now claimed:</p><p> * not town</p><p> * seperate win-condition (Captain needs to die)</p><p> * A passive night ability (which gathers some not so useful info...what would the N3 info mean). </p><p> </p><p> Something's rotten in the state of Denmark here...</p>

[lukess11]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm worried that having this role (Disgruntled crewman, mutineer) doesn't add up with claimed ability. And I don't know anything, I'm not leading this charge. <p> </p><p> But you have now claimed:</p><p> * not town</p><p> * seperate win-condition (Captain needs to die)</p><p> * A passive night ability (which gathers some not so useful info...what would the N3 info mean). </p><p> </p><p> Something's rotten in the state of Denmark here...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This has been my thinking. Just doesn't sound like a town role to me with the info we have atm.</p>

[Zergon]

<p>Hmm, seems that lot of things have again happened while I was away.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Emark" data-cite="Emark" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was pretty much doing the pressure vote on an inactive D2. I was out of pocket during that day phase with my better-half "surprising" me with Spring Fair tickets. Was there all day with the family, crashed when I got home and woke up after the wacky manipulation lynch went through. I will say I was not high on The Archer's proclivity to respond in not so kind fashion and may well have dropped a vote on him. It's a shame he came up town but he really did himself no favors.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> As for me not voting last phase. Quite frankly I had to get things packed for the trip and just couldn't get back to my computer before leaving. Wasn't about to post while driving either. My vote would have been a symbolic one on Leion btw, quite honestly I don't think the day was ever not going to end in an Archer lynch so no need for me to make a switch to him to just get a voting history out there for us to actually look through.</p><p> </p><p> And to answer the late BHK's question. My vote switch to Archer was just that. Just an attempt to get voting history out there.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is way back at start of the day phase but guess I should also explain why I voted on day 2 and not on day 3.</p><p> </p><p> So on day two, voted Archer mainly as a pressure post since he´d been mostly inactive. Got back at deadline and didn´t saw any reason to chance vote.</p><p> </p><p> On day three, I missed most of the early part and when coming back, there was something between 4 - 5 votes on Archer (if I remember correctly). Now, I admit some of his answers rubbed me the wrong way but guess they also kind of did their job since I started to think that he might not be scum simply because annoying people didn´t feel like good scum tactic (yeah, I know, doesn´t prove anything) so decided to wait if anything else comes up and cast my vote later. Long story short, real life kind of happened and I didn´t come back until lynch was already achieved.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You'll have to take that up with Ray.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Scum.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Scummier.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Yet you don't lay down a vote. Hate to have three straight by your team?</p><p> </p><p> I don't argue the result but I do argue the implication. I do have a different alignment, but it is still pro town. The only difference in win condition is that for me to win the Captain has to die (no I didn't kill him). I assume there are more with the same alignment, but I don't know. I can't talk to anyone and am legit a pc geek.</p><p> </p><p> If I was acum why on earth would I be told how many non crew there are? I'm sure some of you will doubt that information is real, but please remember that I had given that info in thread voluntarily.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> While you make a pretty good defense, I don´t think calling almost everyone who put a vote on you as scum to be a good way to get out of the spot you are.</p>

[i effin rule]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hmm, seems that lot of things have again happened while I was away.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> This is way back at start of the day phase but guess I should also explain why I voted on day 2 and not on day 3.</p><p> </p><p> So on day two, voted Archer mainly as a pressure post since he´d been mostly inactive. Got back at deadline and didn´t saw any reason to chance vote.</p><p> </p><p> On day three, I missed most of the early part and when coming back, there was something between 4 - 5 votes on Archer (if I remember correctly). Now, I admit some of his answers rubbed me the wrong way but guess they also kind of did their job since I started to think that he might not be scum simply because annoying people didn´t feel like good scum tactic (yeah, I know, doesn´t prove anything) so decided to wait if anything else comes up and cast my vote later. Long story short, real life kind of happened and I didn´t come back until lynch was already achieved.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> While you make a pretty good defense, I don´t think calling almost everyone who put a vote on you as scum to be a good way to get out of the spot you are.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It is because I want the town to win. It isn't about being voted on, it is how some are justifying their vote. Gut instinct.</p>