[HYPE] CV97 for TEW2020 (input wanted)

[Derek B]

It's literally the best. Once I finally dove into the Cornellverse and discovered this mod, it was the only one I could play. It's so much more fun getting to use all the people you know from the start of their career to the end. Although none of my games ever lasted that long, when I had a 6 or 7 year RTG save, it's still fun the see the world develop. I love this database so much!

 

Edit, so as to not double post.

 

When you say you've gone through the companies, have you added attributes to the workers in the companies? I feel like this might be the most tedious/time consuming aspect of updating the mod.

 

Oh yeah, I'm going through every single worker in the data to update their attributes. It's a big job and I think I've developed ADD in recent years because I can't focus on doing it for long so I'm slowing myself down, but almost all the active workers at game start are done with attributes, experience, gimmicks, contracts, minor stat tweaks and everything. When I get into yet to debut workers it'll be easier as there are less things to tweak but it'll get there.

[francis86]

Keep up the good work my friend this look really promising!

[Munit]

Is this going to have the same new workers we see in the new default data as yet to debut in the future?

[praguepride]

Yeah that is how it typically works.

[lr10540]

Oh yeah, I'm going through every single worker in the data to update their attributes. It's a big job and I think I've developed ADD in recent years because I can't focus on doing it for long so I'm slowing myself down, but almost all the active workers at game start are done with attributes, experience, gimmicks, contracts, minor stat tweaks and everything. When I get into yet to debut workers it'll be easier as there are less things to tweak but it'll get there.

 

I feel for you! I know you said you don't want help, but should that change, I have no problem adding attributes! I'm so excited to play this mod.

[praguepride]

Probably what he needs the most help with is long term sims. What happens in 10 years? 20 years? etc.

[Rateddc]

I had a hell of a CGC game in TEW16, looking forward to diving into this mod again this time round.

[Blackman]

A pity there's no beta yet, but then again: the longer we wait, the more bugs get squashed in the game, so it's probably for the best.

 

I'm sure it will be all amazingly done, but you never know if there are some oversights or something that a pair of extra eyes (or 30 ) can help with.

 

Might also help me to familiarize myself with the promotion I intend on playing. I narrowed down the list of possible candidates to jus one: HGC (because of course it is )

[lr10540]

A pity there's no beta yet, but then again: the longer we wait, the more bugs get squashed in the game, so it's probably for the best.

 

I'm sure it will be all amazingly done, but you never know if there are some oversights or something that a pair of extra eyes (or 30 ) can help with.

 

Might also help me to familiarize myself with the promotion I intend on playing. I narrowed down the list of possible candidates to jus one: HGC (because of course it is )

 

Aside from wanting to run a PGHW since I've recently discovered 90's All Japan, I always like to play RtG and L2G in 97 as by the time my UC is good or my company is large enough, I have the ability to book all the guys and gals we know and love from present day.

 

If play testing is needed, I'm sure there's many of us willing to run long term watcher saves to see how the world develops. I know in 16, a lot of companies went bankrupt. I personally bought 5SSW, PGHW and NOTBPW. Not sure how many others died in the promotional warfare. 5SSW was huge as having access to those 4 pillars of joshi wrestling helped my UC develop so fast. Aside from company stabilization, not sure what else would need to be looked at. Maybe stat progression as it appears rates have been lowered for pretty much everything. In my current RtG, my UC has developed very slowly despite being involved in 81 matches in 1 year (I booked a ton of shows early on) and having excellent potential accross everything. I don't recall that being the case before. I was one of the best wrestlers in the world after a few years in 16. Now it seems much more likely I won't be top 10 in ring until late 20's or so.

[Blackman]

Development could probably use some revisions, but I've yet to have long (watcher) games so I've refrained from providing suggestions/feedback about the topic. So far, in my games, progression is... very slow. There is no way '97s Sean McFly will become '05 McFly. No way. But then again: '05 was kinda 'special' in its stats. Let's not forget AAA was actually C- pop at that point and was a legit company, but he must've changed it back to E-levels as it made more sense (in relation to reality).

[praguepride]

yeah 2005 resulted in some of the "greatest" wrestlers of all time. Eric Tyler, Steve Flash, the Stones, McFly... their abilities were insane.

[Teh_Showtime]

Does anybody else remember Davis Wayne Newton from 2008? Perhaps the person hit the most by canon updating itself over the iterations.

[praguepride]

What do you mean? I mean he is still somewhat young with amazing stats. 86 SQ, 70s for almost all in-ring, performance, and physical skills.

 

His entertainment skills are decent. Not great not terrible. He could definitely handle a push if you gave him one.

 

The bio even hints at that and his personality of class clown sounds like he just didn't take things too seriously.

 

That being said, yes I remember. Every diary was DWN as the hot new rookie first hire.

[Blackman]

No wonder my PGHW, ROF and NOTBPW saves did so well then. And if you look at the data, he should never become what he was. If anything, I'm seeing way too much A*-matches in the database, though a pure "100" is very difficult. They simply can't have those god-tier stats or the game would be very boring and you'd product A* matches without any effort.

 

I don't know what's planned for Christian Faith, but he ALWAYS ends up with HGC in my saves. He's best friends with Eisen, but I think he should probably have loyalty to keep him from leaving. He's supposed to be the 'Taker there, and Adam already confirmed that relationship has no effect on these decisions. That's more like Y2J leaving WWE on friendly terms. So instead should come a loyalty attribute. Given that this attribute can't just "spawn" through random events, I'd add it to Faith (at least in my personal games ).

[Stennick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47387" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does anybody else remember Davis Wayne Newton from 2008? Perhaps the person hit the most by canon updating itself over the iterations.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Davis got nerfed HARD. It would have seemed like Davis was essentially supposed to be the heir for Cornell's throne as far as best worker in the game goes. With him starting out with such great stats, so young. </p><p> </p><p> The question is which canon does everyone prefer his crazy 08 stats or his nerfed stats in future games? </p><p> </p><p> I honestly think it was good for his stats to get toned down a bit 91 selling for a guy thats been in the business five months seemed a bit much.</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<p>I think the way it is now is fine because you can easily get A* matches with people who barely have 80s in their stats. There’s so many external factors that are super easy to manipulate (like momentum and gimmicks) which boost ratings to a crazy degree.</p><p> </p><p>

Keep in mind that was also prior to the Dirt Sheet helping everyone minimize penalties, which made min-maxing much easier even without the crazy stats. I think rookie prodigies are still great and somebody like KC Glenn would probably be on part with the old versions of DWN and the Keith sons</p>

[Blackman]

<p>Exactly. I don't like many 100's poppin' around as it is. I changed my mind: workers don't need skill boosts at all. Ogiwara's reaching great heights with 90 TEC and 86 AIR & PSY. Must've been lucky in her destiny roll. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> She's won't make 2005 though with injuries piling up.</p><p> </p><p>

As 2000 closed down, no1 in the top500 turned out to be... Optimus? Oh, come on. This is rigged. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[lr10540]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47387" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Exactly. I don't like many 100's poppin' around as it is. I changed my mind: workers don't need skill boosts at all. Ogiwara's reaching great heights with 90 TEC and 86 AIR & PSY. Must've been lucky in her destiny roll. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> She's won't make 2005 though with injuries piling up.<p> </p><p> As 2000 closed down, no1 in the top500 turned out to be... Optimus? Oh, come on. This is rigged. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Are you running the converted DB to do these early play tests?</p><p> </p><p> Optimus is a damn good worker and being in Burning Hammer, I could see him vying for a top spot in the P500. Although the with PGHW pillars and the Stone boys, it's a bit surprising.</p>

[Blackman]

<p>It was just a joke, considering he's Derek's profile pic. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I'm using the converted db. The only thing I did was tweak the companies somewhat. CGC sometimes goes out of business, weirdly enough. </p><p> </p><p>

Just now, Cat Quine is on a 200-0 win streak in HGC (gave them a women's division). I have a screen to prove it. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Kit is the second female star there. She broke up with Mito and moved to the US.</p><p> </p><p>

The problem with the generated workers is REALLY a thing though. It pains me seeing J-Ro on the sidelines for years while regens with MUCH better stats are being signed to AAA. She's jobbing to Amy Galaxy ffs. The sheer incompetence... Must intervene... but can't. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Stennick]

It was just a joke, considering he's Derek's profile pic.

 

I'm using the converted db. The only thing I did was tweak the companies somewhat. CGC sometimes goes out of business, weirdly enough.

 

Just now, Cat Quine is on a 200-0 win streak in HGC (gave them a women's division). I have a screen to prove it. Kit is the second female star there. She broke up with Mito and moved to the US.

 

The problem with the generated workers is REALLY a thing though. It pains me seeing J-Ro on the sidelines for years while regens with MUCH better stats are being signed to AAA. She's jobbing to Amy Galaxy ffs. The sheer incompetence... Must intervene... but can't.

 

J-Ro is jobbing to Amy freaking Galaxy? I suggest uninstalling the game and lighting your PC on fire its clearly possessed haha

[praguepride]

Nuke it from orbit, its the only way to be sure

[Blackman]

<p>That AAA booker surely isn't going to heaven to be an angel. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Given that it's Heidi Brooks, a spiteful creature, that might indeed be the case.</p><p> </p><p>

Anyhow, I've lost interest in the watcher games as they each just get flooded with new workers. You can tone it down to 1% but there will still be 2 a year and that adds up quickly. It's a bit ridiculous we can't tune this unless we edit all the dojo's to "performance centers". This mod will essentially be unplayable until that has been corrected. Maybe if all dojo's only appear around 2020 that might make things better, but that's not good for immersion at all...</p>

[praguepride]

Unfortunate! I hope Adam fixes that soon. I am jonesing for some East Coast War action!

[lr10540]

That AAA booker surely isn't going to heaven to be an angel. Given that it's Heidi Brooks, a spiteful creature, that might indeed be the case.

 

Anyhow, I've lost interest in the watcher games as they each just get flooded with new workers. You can tone it down to 1% but there will still be 2 a year and that adds up quickly. It's a bit ridiculous we can't tune this unless we edit all the dojo's to "performance centers". This mod will essentially be unplayable until that has been corrected. Maybe if all dojo's only appear around 2020 that might make things better, but that's not good for immersion at all...

 

You can't set up new workers to be turned off until certain year like past versions?

[Jaded]

You can't set up new workers to be turned off until certain year like past versions?

 

Sadly not, unless you delete all dojos and performance centres. (Not 100% sure that would work, even; AI feds may be able to create their own.)