[HYPE] Territory Daze

[Mammoth]

As I don't want someone seeing the original post and thinking I'm nearly done and preparing for release, I just want to say that I'm not. I'm just over half way through the workers now (progress slowed considerably again for a week or two due to another lapse in health) so there's still some way to go, unfortunately. However, I have updated the original post because I wanted something to work on in my downtime. So yeah, I just didn't want anyone to stumble across it and get their hopes up.

[thadian]

This is what I've been waiting for.

 

Will it feature JCP, WCCW, and WWA?

 

Edit - I know it will be a while. I still look forward to it as much as I did the release of TEW2020 when it was announced.

[Mammoth]

This is what I've been waiting for.

 

Will it feature JCP, WCCW, and WWA?

 

Edit - I know it will be a while. I still look forward to it as much as I did the release of TEW2020 when it was announced.

Yes, JCP, WCCW (as Big Time Wrestling) and WWA are all included.

[Mammoth]

Just to reassure those of you who have contacted me, this is definitely still in the works. My health - like a lot of peoples in these uncertain times - has been up and down so there have been regular stoppages in my efforts which has effected the estimated time of arrival substantially. Plus, when I first did both Territory Daze and Shifting Sands, I didn't have two terrible tots running around and taking an extensive amount of my time so I haven't been able to do things quite as quickly as I had hoped or have done previously.

 

I also got a little sidetracked in updating each and every worker when I reached Ray Gunkle because I got caught up in the Battle for Atlanta again. As such, I have added Ann Gunkle and the All-South Wrestling Alliance to the database which should be interesting for those who have read-up or indeed lived through that quite exciting time in Georgia.

 

I am now firmly back on track with the workers though and I am tantalisingly close to the very first release for TEW20. As I type this, I'm currently putting the finishing touches on Ray Osborne which tells you how close I am to completion considering I've done workers alphabetically and workers are indeed the last bit of the puzzle as they had the most to update. I'm doing (very) roughly 50 workers a day so I think we're certainly looking at weeks now rather than months.

 

If anyone has any questions or wish to find out anymore prior to it's release, please feel free to ask.

[Bigpapa42]

Appreciate the update and look forward to getting to dive into this. Thanks Mammoth!

[KingJamal92]

Seriously Mammoth thanks for the updates. Your Shifting Sands mod was one of the best mods I played on TEW2016. So I'm definitely looking forward to the Territory Daze on TEW2020.

[hailthebulldog]

Just to reassure those of you who have contacted me, this is definitely still in the works. My health - like a lot of peoples in these uncertain times - has been up and down so there have been regular stoppages in my efforts which has effected the estimated time of arrival substantially. Plus, when I first did both Territory Daze and Shifting Sands, I didn't have two terrible tots running around and taking an extensive amount of my time so I haven't been able to do things quite as quickly as I had hoped or have done previously.

 

I also got a little sidetracked in updating each and every worker when I reached Ray Gunkle because I got caught up in the Battle for Atlanta again. As such, I have added Ann Gunkle and the All-South Wrestling Alliance to the database which should be interesting for those who have read-up or indeed lived through that quite exciting time in Georgia.

 

I am now firmly back on track with the workers though and I am tantalisingly close to the very first release for TEW20. As I type this, I'm currently putting the finishing touches on Ray Osborne which tells you how close I am to completion considering I've done workers alphabetically and workers are indeed the last bit of the puzzle as they had the most to update. I'm doing (very) roughly 50 workers a day so I think we're certainly looking at weeks now rather than months.

 

If anyone has any questions or wish to find out anymore prior to it's release, please feel free to ask.

 

Hey man thanks for the update. I hope that your health issues are past and that you and your family stay well.

[tsdm1996]

I'm really excited to play this. Didn't play it in TEW 2016 but have heard wonderful things about it. Thanks for the update. Keep taking care of yourself <img alt="<img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[WCGreyghost]

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to this one!

[Taker4455]

Can't wait! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[Mattah12]

Really looking forward to this one!

[Genking]

Been waiting for a 70s mod, delighted to hear you are working on this!

[raspymorten]

Just wanna drop in to add to all the love rn. 1970s are a super unique time period, and I had a ton of fun playing the 2016 version. I'm seriously excited for this!

[olympia]

<p>I really enjoyed this mod. I've been dabbling with a couple different territories to get a feel for the new game and the mod. Here are a couple observations/suggestions:</p><p> </p><p>

1) The territory popularity seems high compared to the popularity of the wrestlers (one or both might need adjusted). For example, Mid-America keeps getting a warning they don't have enough stars. 65 starting Pop for them might be high since they drew almost 20K for the month end show. I'm sure Nick Gulas would have loved that.</p><p>

I think I counted 15 total wrestlers with 65 popularity in the SE - I don't know how that compares to other mods, but would expect more wrestlers above the level. And more to point, more wrestlers in each territory that would exceed their starting level (since their main eventers would have been popular in their home state). It's hard to replicate real life with the game engine since most of these territories were very popular in their home area, but not so much in the rest of the region. Think CWF - huge in the state of Florida and a little spillover into Georgia, but no one in TN knew anything about them outside what they'd read in PWI. I think 59 is the level required for Medium, so maybe most should start in the 55-58 range or so.</p><p> </p><p>

2) star power - I may be wrong, but I don't think the STAR rating will change over time. It's kind of a preset built in. So a rookie who "has the look" will gain quicker. If that is true, a lot of guys should have a higher Star rating since they were or would become top stars in several territories and hall of fame legends. Some names that jumped out include Bob Armstrong, Mr Wrestling II (Johnny Walker), maybe even the Fullers. Popularity might not be overly high if they are just starting out, but the star power should help them reach their potential.</p><p> </p><p>

when you look at the BATTLES tab, most of the territories should have at least 3-4 guys listed in their main home region. (mixture of individuals raised and territory lowered should do the trick - and that might also keep some attendance and financials in check too). Your bigger mainstream territories would have more (like Mid-Atlantic, CWF, St. Louis etc.). I loved my Gulas-Welch and Gulf Coast back in the day, but I don't think they were in the same league (they could have been but as one profile correctly pointed out - Nick was satisfied with "safe" and average shows more than spending money or taking risks. He was a good booker and promoter though and did well with what he had.</p><p> </p><p>

3) Individual tweaks - not sure why Jackie Fargo shows only as an amazing heel. He was the top face for Gulas at the time. I can see him being able to do both side of the fence.</p><p>

Paul Jones - big star in Florida and Mid-Atlantic had a 25 pop in SE, but a 60 in the NW (wonder if those got reversed in error)</p><p> </p><p>

Road Agents - how do they gain experience? It seems some of the historic greats start off very poor in this regard (like Jerry Jarrett - who might gain during matches, but what about Crocketts?). I used Jarrett to butcher one match every card just to see if the key "Road Agent" attributes ever increased (in addition to a match) but they never did in the couple months I played each territory.</p><p> </p><p>

4) product types for the territories. When I played Mid-America,they are classic sports entertainment which penalizes brawls, and one goal was not being able to hire brawlers (which excludes a lot of their big names - like Tojo, Sputnik, Sonny Fargo. even the Andersons could be banned in Mid-Atlantic/JCP). Classic Southern Wrestling might be a better fit for them (also Gulf Coast). curious if "Wrestling as real sport" might fit CWF since Eddie liked to hire guys with strong amateur backgrounds. Thinking also the Texas territories might use the Wild Wild West (it seems tailor made for them). Just some little tweaks here and there for the places that loved their brawls mixed in.</p><p> </p><p>

5) TV shows. a lot of the TV stations require popularity in 0 territories. Allows to spam tv shows all over the country (and make a little money on them. Even if you only get 75 viewers in a graveyard slot, you'd make a little ad money and gain new fans there. Personally, I like it not to be impossible to branch out (reasonable requirements that could be obtained in time) but not this easy. example, I could PR starved for wrestling and their tv might have more lax requirement (like maybe when the spillover reaches 5-10 a small station would pick them up)</p><p> </p><p>

CWF was drawing 3x the number of viewers from Mid-Atlantic than they did in Florida. And they were not that far behind JCP in Mid-atlantic viewers (90k to 65k) Something is amiss there (maybe the Charlotte station they're on is too big for the game world). They started as medium because of popularity in Mid-Atlantic which shouldn't be right. (maybe 30 so they can reach it quick enough. Likewise Mid-Atlantic branched into SE, so it can just a tad higher. Most the others stayed mostly at home - although Nick's home area stretched a bunch of states from the Gulf to Great Lakes - running towns in KY, etc.). I like how you gave Mid-Atlantic two TV stations - that helped them especially compared to CWF encroaching on their area. One idea I toyed with that may or may not work is to set up "syndication" stations for the major territories. That could allow to have a nice presence in the home state and a very tiny station to replicate that one-off show they had somewhere else (like CWF's one show in Charlotte and the one in NY - it helped get their wrestlers over there so they could travel up for shows, but didn't really help them that much since they didn't actually book shows there).</p><p> </p><p>

6) I love that most the territories I've tried start out level 5 merchandising and can see which wrestlers are selling merch. Sad part is most do not have anyone (or just a couple) that qualify. I don't know the criteria but assume it would require a POP above the territory popularity. example, Jackie Fargo sold $24 the first week in MA, but a terribly booked match or something dropped his pop below 60 and he never sold another dime - and I never could get him to regain any of the lost pop. The Wrestling Bear was my big merchandise star. :-)</p><p> </p><p>

7) title requirements - some seem too restrictive. Most single heavyweight titles I've viewed limit to Light Heavy and above. An example I remember was MA's Southern title. That means the guy who the belt more than anyone else for a long time could not challenge for it - Jackie Fargo is a middleweight (which might be the better choice - since a lot of the smaller guys competed for the main titles in the south. In WWWF they favored bigger guys, so I can see a higher restriction there.</p><p> </p><p>

oh - and Mighty Igor should be a heavyweight (289 lbs). I laughed out loud when I saw him win the Jr. title. not sure about Waldo Von Erich who also won the NWA Jr title in one.</p><p> </p><p>

8) wish list which isn't likely would be historic territory specific arenas at different sizes. Which I was running MA and had to go to Florida for shows since there are no arenas in TN with 5,000 capacity, it made me think. But truly, that's a small price to pay and I can justify it all. So what if Nick ran the Fairgrounds or Hippodrome drawing 2,000 fans every week and the game has him drawing 5K in Florida - in reality, he was running similar shows every night so he would be in front of 5k each week and the MOD gives us that.</p><p> </p><p>

I do wonder if a weekly house show and a month end show is too much for of these. One option might be a "city specific" show - add 2 for the major territories and 1 for the smaller ones. Example - Mid-Atlantic might run Greensboro Thursday Week 1. and Raleigh or Charlotte on Monday week 3, plus the monthly show. (reduces the number of house shows by 1). Florida could have Tampa and Miami. Smaller promotion could get 1 house show a month plus the month end. That's still more than most of the other mods would give a territory this size - they get weekly tv and one show a month if I remember correctly. The city named show gives that "realism" no matter where it is actually booked in the game world</p><p> </p><p>

could you call the JCP TV show "Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling" even if have to abbreviate. Seeing several with same name "CW" gets confusing. same with studio show but I don't have a suggestion for another name there</p><p> </p><p>

I know alot of the things I pointed out or suggested might be necessary or worth doing. Most is a few tweaks and fine-tuning (or correcting some data entry errors). I've really loved playing the different territories and getting a feel for the new TEW using your MOD. I can get lost in here for days and not eat or sleep if I'm not careful lol. thanks for all your hard work of putting this together.</p>