Johnny Fenoli Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 A couple of small things I've been fixing as I go through the data: WWF logo/ banner Kidman name HBK picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Forgot to mention, thanks for all the hardwork brother. I am finally able to tell a story I've wanted to tell for many years and this mod starts at the perfect time. Cheap plug, but if anyone is interested, I am doing a WCW diary here *Edit* Just spotted a dupe, Vladimir Kozlov should probably be deleted as Oleg Prudius is his non-WWE name and has the alter egos Tanga Loa needs deleted Spud and Rockstar Spud are both in the data as well Cavenario and Barbaro Cavernario as well Riddick Moss and Mike Rawlis Jake South and Madman Fulton People's Champion for The Rock doesn't seem like the right gimmick for his Nation days Stacy Carter should have 1970 as her birth year and April 1998 as her debut Fifi and Brittany Diamond are both listed as males Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Fenoli Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Not to hijack the thread... But, if anyone would like a version of the data I've been working on for the last 4 hours or so, inbox me. I've made all the corrections mentioned in the thread. I inflated some stats to my personal liking. I have added a WHOLE BUNCHA attributes. THanks for all the great work Fleisch, you always come through! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyungboomer Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Couple small things I noticed as WWF. Road Dogg and Billy Gunn are set as faces and The Undertaker is set as heel to begin the game. I am not too familiar with this time but I don't think that is right. Other than that having a blast on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Okada should be a graduate of Ultimo Dragon Gym Dragon Kid should be protégé of Ultimo Dragon Dragon Kid should have Great Chemistry versus Darkness Dragon Some possible relationship ideas based on interviews CM Punk protege of Raven, Steven Regal, Dave Taylor, and Dave Finlay: Punk has name dropped every listed person as veterans that took a serious interest in his career and helped him get to where he is. Bryan Danielson protege of Shawn Michaels, Steven Regal, and Rudy Boy Gonzalez Mark Jindrak should be a protege of Paul Orndorff, not blood relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 I wasn't going to but I am going to release a 1.1 to fix things up on Saturday. This will be the last release for the 1998 mod as I have really lost interest in it. My next mod will be one built from the ground up as building "into the future" from a past mod is not a road I'm experimenting with again! I may even just update the (alternate Real World timeline) 2002 Flashpoint Mod to be playable long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I honestly don't blame you. I spend more time using the editor than I do playing the game anymore and it feels like no matter how much work you do there's still things you overlooked. Some more bits on relationships: Leo Tonga needs blood relationship with Haku, Kava, and Nuku All of Haku's blood relations to the Anoa'i family need to either be deleted or changed to loyalty/strong friendship as there is no blood relation Haku should have either Best Friend or Strong Friendship with The Barbarian Rocky Maivia isn't related by blood to the Anoa'i family. His grandfather did a blood pact with the patriarch of the Anoa'i family, but there is no literal blood relation. Should be changed to loyalty or strong friendship Rocky Maivia should have loyalty with Haku, Rocky has always referred to him as an uncle figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skummy Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Another duplicate I just spotted in 1998: - Emi Motokawa and Emi Sakura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungNoble Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Some ECW Notes Heyman Pic is outdated ECW Training Logo is outdated ECW Heavyweight Championship should be ECW World Heavyweight Add a friendship for Pee Wee Moore and Sabu. Pee Wee was his personal ref Super Destroyers should have some low-mid Tag Experience Kronus should be face Balls/Axl should be face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean-vic Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I wasn't going to but I am going to release a 1.1 to fix things up on Saturday. This will be the last release for the 1998 mod as I have really lost interest in it. My next mod will be one built from the ground up as building "into the future" from a past mod is not a road I'm experimenting with again! I may even just update the (alternate Real World timeline) 2002 Flashpoint Mod to be playable long term. Sorry to hear that, but thank you for getting this mod out there. Great to have a 98 mod. I'm enjoying it so far. Yeah, there are minor errors here or there but insignificant really. I think you've done a brilliant job, so thank you for the time taken to get this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceciro Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Honestly, even the beta I was running of the 98 mod was playable for me - just had to throw some Experience around when it wasn't set, or take a few people out of being Road Agent types. I'm sorry to hear you've lost interest on it, but reading up in the thread I do see how it could have gotten a bit stressful. It's one of the few times it's really interesting to take over WWF/E in a game; WCW has all the talent and you've really got to build a lower and midcard quick because even though you have Rock/Austin/HBK/Taker, when it comes to solid bell-to-bell talent WCW has almost all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I wasn't going to but I am going to release a 1.1 to fix things up on Saturday. This will be the last release for the 1998 mod as I have really lost interest in it. I'm sorry to hear that. You do a great job with this mod. Maybe at some point you will find the desire to continue working at this mod Or you could give someone permission to keep working on it? I've found some minor mistakes: Mabel Needs higher popularity Attribut: Fat Genes, Squash Master Bobby Knight Needs higher popularity Kurrgan Needs higher popularity Recon Needs higher popularity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munit Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I wasn't going to but I am going to release a 1.1 to fix things up on Saturday. This will be the last release for the 1998 mod as I have really lost interest in it. My next mod will be one built from the ground up as building "into the future" from a past mod is not a road I'm experimenting with again! I may even just update the (alternate Real World timeline) 2002 Flashpoint Mod to be playable long term. yes pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Anthony Durante Needs higher popularity Attribute: Tag Team Spec Gary Wolfe Needs higher popularity Attribute: Tag Team Spec Missing Worker: George Steele (was in 1998 a member of the Oddities) Shaggy 2 Dope (was in 1998 a member of the Oddities) Violent J (was in 1998 a member of the Oddities) Missing Tag Team: Insane Clown Posse Shaggy 2 Dope Violent J (Activ in: Independent, WCW, WWF) 1998 - 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 Anthony Durante Needs higher popularity Attribute: Tag Team Spec Gary Wolfe Needs higher popularity Attribute: Tag Team Spec Missing Worker: George Steele (was in 1998 a member of the Oddities) Shaggy 2 Dope (was in 1998 a member of the Oddities) Violent J (was in 1998 a member of the Oddities) Missing Tag Team: Insane Clown Posse Shaggy 2 Dope Violent J (Activ in: Independent, WCW, WWF) 1998 - 2021 Eurgh... Insane Clown Posse. Can't I just delete the mod now? What an absolute waste of space those 2 were. 1 match in October 98 and the rest of it stood at ringside waving their arms in the air like a couple of cheerleaders sans pom-poms. Ok... if I really must add these 2, I will. Things below, don't need mentioned. ================== Updates for V1.1 ================== Deleted Vladimir Kozlov (Duplicate) Deleted Tanga Loa (Duplicate) Deleted Cavenario (Duplicate) Deleted Spud (Duplicate) Deleted Riddick Moss (Duplicate) Deleted Madman Fulton (Duplicate) Deleted Emi Motokawa (Duplicate) Added George Steel Added Violent J Added Shaggy 2 Dope IV Horsemen Stable - Inactive Billy Kidman - name changed to Kidman (WCW Contract) Shawn Michaels - Picture Change Stacy Carter Birthdate & Debut fixed New Age Outlaws - Set to Heel The Undertaker - Set to Face Okada set as a 2004 Graduate of Ultimo Dragon Gym Dragon Kid set as protege of Ultimo Dragon Dragon Kid vs. Darkness Dragon given Great Chemistry Mark Jindrak Protege of Paul Orndorff Haku - Loyalty to Anoa'i Family instead of Blood Rocky Maivia - Loyalty to Anoa'i Family instead of Blood Haku & Barbarian set as Best Friends Taz & Pee Wee moore set to Strong Friendship The Super Destroyers set to 40% Tag Experience John Kronus - Set to Face Balls Mahoney - Set to Face Axl Rotten - Set to Face Leo Tonga - Blood Relation to Haku, Kava and Nuku. Various Popularity boosts... again. Added Strong Friendship - Violent J with Sabu & Rob Van Dam Added Strong Friendship - Shaggy 2 Dope with Sabu & Rob Van Dam Added Best Friends - Shaggy 2 Dope with Violent J Added Tag Team - Insane Clown Posse Paul Heyman Pic updated WWF Logo Change ECW House of Hardcore logo updated ECW Heavywieght renamed ECW World Heavyweight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Eurgh... Insane Clown Posse. Can't I just delete the mod now? What an absolute waste of space those 2 were. 1 match in October 98 and the rest of it stood at ringside waving their arms in the air like a couple of cheerleaders sans pom-poms. Ok... if I really must add these 2, I will. Thanks for your amazin work A few small things (or should I stop posting these? ): Chemistry Percy Pringle / Glenn Jacobs Managing: Good Chemistry Jim Ross / Jerry Lawler Announcing with: Great Chemistry Eras: Ruthless Aggression Era (2002–2008) PG Era (2008–2013) Reality and New Era (seit 2014) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 Thanks for your amazin work A few small things (or should I stop posting these? ): Chemistry Percy Pringle / Glenn Jacobs Managing: Good Chemistry Jim Ross / Jerry Lawler Announcing with: Great Chemistry Eras: Ruthless Aggression Era (2002–2008) PG Era (2008–2013) Reality and New Era (seit 2014) Nope keep them coming. Once the release of 1.1 on Saturday, then you can stop as I shall start prepping for a new mod and update a couple old ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nickman Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 This is fantastic work, Fleisch. I know the mod is driving you mad, but we’ve all been crying out for this time period to play. Thanks so much again for all your hard work on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilyishere Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Two notes on the 1992 mod, these might've already been known things but idk i'm not in the loop: - Cho-Ten is active as a team to start, when they shouldn't be - Most of Japan and Mexico have either Mercenary or Troublemaker attributes, some of that might be more accurate, but there are definitely a few that aren't accurate at all. (I.E: Tatsumi Fujinami having Mercenary) Also, this is more of a suggestion if anything, but maybe you could add the Greatest 18 Club championship? It was created by New Japan as an addition to the creation of the Greatest 18 Club (New Japan's initial hall of fame before getting replaced by Greatest Wrestlers in 2007 to 2011) It's a short lived title, but was active at the time of the mod's start and would be neat for "accuracy" things I suppose, it's entirely up to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munit Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Whatever you got cooking up Fleish, im excited for. You have to be the best mod maker for real world old school mods. Never seen a mod with so many debuts. Makes the game world so much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Bill Goldberg has only 80 Star Quality. Should be a 90 minimum. Davey Boy Smith should be lower I'm going through the wrestlers who have yet to debut. But there are really many. I will write something about this later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceciro Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Fleisch, just let me say - if you stop working on the '98 mod, that's your choice, blah blah. But in any case, thank you so much for the work you've already done, I have had so much fun with it even in it's current state, and I'll have to keep it around as a huge tool in my tool box. I know that keeping track of all of these things is not easy or simple, so I appreciate the work you've done in any case. Brought me a bunch of hours of fun already, and will bring more. Excited for the update on Saturday, even if it's bittersweet being the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Wrestler yet to debut Adam Cole Higher Star Quality Higher Sex Appeal Brie Bella Activ Role as Wrestler Nikki Bella Activ Role as Wrestler Tag Team Bella Twins Brodi Lee Higher Star Quality Brock Lesnar A Marketing Dream Fitness Fanatic Squash Master Bryan Danielson Giving Performer Can't stay away Prodigy Age is just a number ahead of their time world traveler Claudio Castagnoli Plays Gimmicky well Plays Legitimate well world traveler CM Punk Activ Roles: No Colour Attributes: Future Colour Straight Edge Prodigy Age is just a number ahead of their time world traveler Can't stay away outside interests Easily marketable amazing heel amazing face giving performer creative shoots from the lip Cody Rhodes Plays Weasely well Plays Realistic well Plays offbeat well amazing heel amazing face Darby allin Higher Star Quality Drew Galloway Higher Star Quality Plays Bad Ass well Joe Anoa'i Higher Star Quality Plays Bad Ass Well Protege of Vince (?) Karl Anderson Higher Star Quality Plays Bad Ass Well Missing?: Kelly Kelly Attributes: Steve Austin Shoots from the lips Chris Jericho Shoots from the lips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspymorten Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Wrestler yet to debut CM Punk Activ Roles: No Colour Attributes: Future Colour I dunno about that. Punk did colour commentary for IWA: Mid South pretty regularly. (though it did pick up in 02-05 from what I remember, but still) I could see an arguement for him having the colour commentary role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daileyxplanet Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Not sure if I overlooked if this has been mentioned, but Lex Luger starts off with negative morale due to things he experienced in 1991 WCW. Also, WWF is trying to scoop up Davey Boy Smith, as Smith is only on a handshake deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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