Too Sweet Spartan

<p>The Two's take could be interesting. Like you said, hosting a game gets you a different perspective and a better sense of the game. If he still has that mindset, maybe he can spot something interesting/helpful.</p><p> </p><p> Either way, I need to sleep. See you all tomorrow.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm really not even sure how to respond to this.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Meh, just me overreacting. My bad, IER.</p><p> </p><p> Anyways, I'm about to head off to bed. Interested in the perspective of our Europeans and if there are anyone they're noticing that I'm not. I'll be here tomorrow before deadline either way.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He didn't out anyone, he just speculated. IF we knew who they were and knew for sure they were town roles, we would ask for someone that can protect to protect them at night.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's true, it is all just speculation at this point. I'm jumping the gun a bit. </p><p> </p><p> But still, never hurts to put Derek's advice from the last game back out there.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>LESSONS: Protect your power roles!! GDS games have generally had a LOT of active roles, which ultimately leads to an arms race that is hard for scum to have counters to. If games continue the trend to have fewer power roles, they become more valuable and more important to protect. For many players this means not making "subtle" hints... the eyes of 5 mafia are going to get more hints than anyone else.</strong></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know I promote activity and sharing thoughts, but lets also remember discretion is sometimes for the best. Let's not make the same mistakes as last time.</p><p> </p><p> IER: I'm fine with us saying there are multiple roles that the young man at the podium in the writeup could be alluding to. But let's not come straight out and say what we think it could be if it means potentially outing something useful for town.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>These two irked me it just seemed like getting frustrated at someone for trying to play early game instead of the usual no lynch we default to a lot of the time</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks, yeah I'd agree with that analysis.</p>

Ha, missed playing with you Rev.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So from what I gather, Leion is scum for bringing up a potential cult, Emark is scum for being aggressive, and Opulent kind of comes off as a big meanie. Have I missed anything else?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Showtime ran a 5k. But can he run from my Emark question? That's the real mystery here.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Pretty sure he actually did post though, voting on Mr. T, didn't he?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nah, that was Rev. Blue and Paws haven't posted yet.</p>

<p>BTW, Showtime: </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And could you point out which Emark posts in particular had a tone you weren't a fan of?</div></blockquote>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>lol<p> </p><p> Seriously though on that subject most of the time I'm doing family stuff and popping in to post is way down the list. </p><p> </p><p> So if it's 4 hours between posts for me, you know why.</p><p> </p><p> Me breaking my phone and using my daughters for the last 3 weeks hasn't f'n helped with the posting either. Low budget phones for teenagers suck.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, I'm not asking for anyone to treat mafia like your biggest priority. Just that, if you're going to post, maybe stick around 10-15 minutes afterwards so if someone responds you can follow up. But honestly, my nagging was more directed at people that tend to play less actively and will only post a few times a day phase.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you are making confident reads day one (and one for a guy with two posts not even related to the game content) it just seems like reaching. Everything is a shot in the dark so I don’t dislike the initiative, but if you’re so confident in your actions this early then i automatically raise an eyebrow.<p> </p><p> Not sure if it’s purposeful but more like overextending.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thank you for your response, I understand your reasoning.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I feel like scum typically have a greater concern and focus on Indy/Cult/SK. Whenever I see someone who seems more concerned about figuring out if a cult exist (or about an SK) than finding mafia, I tend to think it's because of a conflicting interest. Or scum being afraid of the chaos that those roles tend to bring.</p><p> </p><p> With Leion, his very first post was pointing out the potential of a cult. So it felt, to me, like that is where his priorities were focused on. He's done other stuff since then which make me feel better about him but he definitely started off on a bad note in my mind.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Some of us have 6 year olds that demand attention and quite frankly he outranks the whole lot of you. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have needs too, Rev. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Okay, thank you for that. I thought I was just going crazy sitting here waiting for a potential response from people.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> To add: When I see this happen to people, it also makes me feel like the question might have caught them. And rather than admitting not having an answer (or giving a bad/scummy one) people would rather hide and give themselves a lot longer to try to figure out a clever answer.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't get it.. Does anyone stay around longer than five minutes before just disappearing from the conversation without any warning whatsoever (Hey guys, going to work/dinner/watch something on TV, etc.)? When did this become normal here?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Okay, thank you for that. I thought I was just going crazy sitting here waiting for a potential response from people.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The other mich I don’t feel poorly about yet...he has two out of context posts and that’s it. On day one. That’s extremely normal for GDS games. Maybe would like to see more posts but what he does have isn’t raising anything to me.<p> </p><p> Emark if we wanna go with someone today is probably the one I’m most comfortable with. Not been feeling the tone of his posts and as opposed to Leion hasn’t really contributed back either.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I ran a 5k today excuse me for reading Lukess as Leion <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> I have zero thoughts on him at the moment. Extremely middle of the pack</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> For Lukess/Michgcs, this post sounds like you disagree with what his thoughts/reads are for the moment. If that is the case: Do you think Leion is purposefully wrong? Or just misreading?</p><p> </p><p> And could you point out which Emark posts in particular had a tone you weren't a fan of?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't want to say yet, as I want others to give me their reads before they see mine (so it's not just an agreement). I really did want the others to respond but no one has. I had confidence that you would at least, hoping others see it's not so bad, it's ok to respond (unless they just didn't see my question).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's fair, I respect that. </p><p> </p><p> Along those lines, I'm still waiting on answers from The Archer. I don't like the lame duck post from him and disappearing act. Regardless of alignment, it only benefits scum.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What about posts disagreeing with someone? This would be one of those<p> </p><p> And since I’ve been asked about you:</p><p> </p><p> You’ve been a bit hostile to start things here, could it be reactionary due to pressure? Probably. Also giving yourself a reason to stay under the radar doesn’t seem necessary either. What’s understood doesn’t need to be explained</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Showtime, quick question.</p><p> </p><p> How do you feel about Lukess? Michgcs? Emark?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What are your thoughts on Leion?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ...I really don't like his initial comment on cults. But he's given some good answers since then. And I think he's being smart in how he's responding, not just putting all the cards on the table at the first sign of pushing from others.</p><p> </p><p> If it were others, I may be more aggressive. But I'm willing to give Leion the benefit of the doubt for the moment.</p><p> </p><p> How about you? Agree/Disagree?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Emark" data-cite="Emark" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Impressive analysis. You got me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Disregarding Leion for a second, what are your thoughts in general this day phase? Anyone/Anything standing out to you?</p><p> </p><p> Edit before posting, I see Opulent may be on the same track I am.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eternal Phoenix" data-cite="Eternal Phoenix" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You never know, I could be scum myself. Or an indy with a weird win condition. I mean, I'm not. But who knows, really? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hmm. <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Weird.</span></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Don't give people excuses, they haven't earned them. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're right, I'll stop with that.</p><p> </p><p> If I'm right (which is far from often) these are the remaining players who haven't posted yet.</p><p> </p><p> 4. Tha Black Phenom</p><p> 7. The Two</p><p> 10. Bluestar</p><p> 19. Paws7297</p><p> 21. Opulent</p><p> </p><p> All pretty experienced players and people that I'd expect to be more active. I hope they will get on and get involved soon. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>New to mafia games.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Like I said in the sign up thread, if you have questions feel free to ask in thread or PM Ray if it is something that you think should not be shared with everyone.</p><p> </p><p> But hopefully you enjoy the game. </p><p> </p><p> And, easier said than done, but try not to take things personally. Accusations and distrust run rampant in a game like this. You saw in the last one how one day phase Emark can be town target #1 and next day he is one of the only few people that can be trusted. At the end of the day: treat this like a game, have some fun, and don't be afraid to participate.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As for the cult, there seems to be enough hints that points toward it. Especially since someone is apparently unsatisfied with the leadership.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Any reason you pointing out potential cult stuff? Afraid of competition?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Archer" data-cite="The Archer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>sup</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hey Archer. What's your thoughts this day phase? Any interesting posts/reads? Prefer a lynch or no-lynch?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt="Jaded-1.jpg" data-src="https://i.ibb.co/GpQTDt4/Jaded-1.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> HAHAHAHAHA! That's too funny.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Welcome!<p> </p><p> Can we talk about Jaded? <span class="ipsEmoji">😛</span><span class="ipsEmoji">😛</span><span class="ipsEmoji">🤣</span><span class="ipsEmoji">🤣</span><span class="ipsEmoji">🤣</span><span class="ipsEmoji">🤣</span><span class="ipsEmoji">🤣</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> First off: I feel like this line is going to stick around for a while, it's just super funny. God help the next time Jaded is actually in a game, people are going to be rooting for him to be scum just to use the line. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> But second off, on a real note: Hopefully we get some more people popping in. I feel like we're still waiting on a good chunk of people to check in. </p><p> </p><p> Although: </p><p> </p><p> A) It is day phase 1, where conversation has to be more manufactured than usual. </p><p> B) It is Wrestlemania Weekend so I'm not sure if I should be expecting a super active day phase (if people are posting while they're watching) or super inactive (because people's minds/focuses are elsewhere).</p>

Ha, will try my hardest. And if I can annoy Ray while doing it, even better.

Sunset Acres, hmm. Looks like we're old people in space.

Fun writeup, I'm ready for MAFIA. IN. SPACE. I'm here as well. Looking to continue the successes and learn from the mistakes of Sunset! The biggest thing for me, getting more aggressive with my reads and trusting my gut instincts a bit more. If I can do that, and still be open to other people's perspectives/reads, then I'll be happy.