Antithesis

So, how's it going at MU? In fairness to the GDS mafia community. The game at the other place featured a supposed "good player" trying to enlist the help of a Mafia member and the SK to mislynch the town Cop, resulting in that "good player" having to out themselves as bullet proof D1 thereby negating the utility of the role. Once that moron was replaced the new chump didnt comprehend the reason that they were left alive for final three was that their biggest Scum read was town. DUH Anyway was nice to follow along, sorry I couldnt play in time, now it looks like GDS is done there and the discord is closed too? Ah well. GGs all.

Well I for one am highly irritated at this development and will be demanding a refund forthwith!

Holas UT Just wanted to thank you for being cool. I know you mainly from Mafia back in the day and wanted to tell you you had the best "scramble" of any of the players back then. Was always fun to watch you talk yourself out of being lynched. GG's and (if you are still thinking about running some mafia games Outlaw has something going on at another site now if you are interested). Either way, thanks for the fun times and take care.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You suck... reviving a dead game thread... had me thinking I missed sign-ups and a game start until I saw 2018 in the title. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Glad somebody laughed. Lol</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Alas think my mafia days are over. Twas fun yall</p><p> </p><p> Leaving out on an edit heh.</p><p> </p><p> Was bittersweet. hated how obsessed I became with this game, but enjoyed the good times and the memories. </p><p> </p><p> Thanks all.</p>

The town was... surprisingly inept. Once you claimed either they could wait and test you or scum would kill you, no need to rush your lynch. I think the weight of all those awards Beck and Apoc had did you in. Although, the way I read it, when you did that fast vote switch it looked so bad I thought, maybe he's trying to get himself lynched? Between that and Beck turning Apoc against you, and the town being not good at that point, you were sacrificed. That's how I read it. BTW will mafia be starting back up here again? Also, now I have to wonder what ham is a euphemism for...

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Antithesis" data-cite="Antithesis" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No I am running late for work as it is, but I wanted to tell my side quickly before everyone just jumped on the vote train. Give me ten hours (it is a pain posting from the job site via my phone) and I can share more thoughts if that is alright.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Aight so I am finally back from work and... WTH! You folks didn't wait, you lynched me! </p><p> </p><p> I was only gone almost a year. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<p>Hello everyone.</p><p> </p><p> Long time no see.</p><p> </p><p> This is a link to a mafia game based on the championship game set up that Outlaw got crushed in <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> (just kidding old man, you know I love you).</p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/24284-Mad17-D1-Massclaim-Champs-Flavor?p=3627630#post3627630" rel="external nofollow">https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/24284-Mad17-D1-Massclaim-Champs-Flavor?p=3627630#post3627630</a></p><p> </p><p> The only difference this time is that there must be a D1 mass role claim (you basically must indicate a role during the first day phase.)</p><p> </p><p> I don't think its required that you tell the truth. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> But hey, who knows; its mafia right?</p><p> </p><p> So, if you want to try your hand at this style of game and see if you can last longer than a D2 mislynch <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />, well, here's your chance. Sign up while they still have slots available.</p>

No I am running late for work as it is, but I wanted to tell my side quickly before everyone just jumped on the vote train. Give me ten hours (it is a pain posting from the job site via my phone) and I can share more thoughts if that is alright.

A manner consistent with shots fired, there is a paraphrase for ya And yes I hated it when I saw my name even come up. To wit I don't know if I got bus drove or even maybe that that bodyguard is an assumption and its a roleblocker targetting me. Could be Arrows is town, I don't know. I thought he was scum then, I think he's scum now, but all that night talk probably just screwed everything up. Who knows

Not trying to be an as Blue, just saying if they hinted they were together somehow I did not see it, what I read was Arrows trying to defend him then throwing him under the bus when the vote got close. Then the stuff about "I'll be dead, dont target me etc etc" It just screamed scum to me. Did I miss something AM I the only person that saw it that way?

I cant quote exactly (rules) but yes if I kill a town aligned person I am very broke up about it.

Thats why Arrows suddenly voted on Derek, they were on the same side?

Its entirely possible, but I dont know, I did (along with others) mention a possible Busdriver. If I killed EP I got no result notice for it. I assume thats just Outlaw changing the guns to protect the real hitman, but who knows, my PM doesn't specify a gun caliber lol

So you would Vig Arrows for voting to lynch Derek if Derek was scum? OOOkay

Game balance i guess, I am a vig that can only kill scum, that was how it was presented. If I kill a townie im done.

Yes, would be a gamble for me because if he was town I'd have to leave out of guilt, but after Derek I wanted to prove myself and can see no one scummier this game than arrows. Plus, if he is in fact town, well, I do have other things going on in the real world... I gave it a shot. Unfortunately i failed. Fortunately now I dont just think he's scum, i think he's probably the Don.

Know you got a group to do all that for you Town Aligned Vigilante I dont know what other people did, didnt you mention a busdiver, or was that someone else? I figured you, MLT, and Archer. Started with you first since you were like 'don't target me ill be dead anyway :sigh: ::stares at a lily pad floating on a lake:: The write up doesnt show you targeting me, it shows me targeting you.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I mean, if he wants to protect me, thanks? I don't know what I did that he thinks is suspicious. I'm not the guy trying to incite panic via text color, or the guy in a role claim battle with someone who's clearly the one telling the truth about that spot in the write up. Makes so much more sense to be Astil there.<p> </p><p> I could do one better, but I see no need to do so at the moment. I'd also like to request if we have an investigator paying attention, to not waste it on me tonight. Scum likes killing me early, no reason to get a result on a dead person. Or Derek will keep me, and I may not be open to be investigated and waste the night for them entirely.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> You know me, I'm all about making up nonsense hints on odd days, and making bold plays on evens. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Games are more fun with Derek around, that's one of the main reasons my vote isn't on him right now. It's hard to remove myself from that bias without something concrete.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I imagine the scum have a role block. Could be that one, could be either one of the two people arguing right now. The scum could easily have a jailer, and this entire "would there be two?" thing goes out the window. That's more likely than the third being the scum roleblock, I think.<p> </p><p> Killing one, seeing blue, can we avoid lynching the other just to make sure? We're all still going to question there being two of them on the towns side. Can't come up with any other good way to sort this out though. Not easy to test that. Would need a tracker for the jailer, the jailer, and someone with an ability who'll admit to having one and then admit to being unable to use it the next morning.</p><p> </p><p> Even then, any combination could lie and mess the whole thing up.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Scummy scummy scummy.</p><p> </p><p> Will note even Arrows doesn't think there is that many Roleblockers... I think he begged off being watched because he didn't want his pocket bodyguard seen.</p><p> </p><p> Thing is when you spooled it out then voted on Derek, I thought it a switch for you. Enough to Vig you. Still don't know if we both just got lucky or you are the Don and was saved by a bodyguard. </p><p> </p><p> And to wit, I still don't know if Derek "blocked" me or not, again, obviously I didnt go out that night though. Its why I didnt vote for him, all that and Astil's 'odd's are' and 'seems unlikely'... yeah thats always strong evidence. You should have known that. I didnt see a problem with having them both tested but seemed like some folks didnt like that idea. So we got a dead townie with a power role. That said, I do think you are the Don.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm also worried about what will become of Mistaken's sibling now.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah I see that now</p>

<p>Crychon you gonna be ok?</p><p> </p><p> Astil think poisoner could be tied to you somehow? Like, think you could cure it?</p>

It's not that, we have had games where people said what they wanted to do and scum used it to win. We have had games ahem where scum questioned people at night to help them figure out what to do. So, just know it may help scum win and can make some people look scummy if they do it. Yeah there's no rule, just possible bad repercussions we've seen before.

Fair enough, just thought all us old timers rembered the deal with night phases and I guess I needed to make an example. Look St the bright side, if you aren't the pgo your safe for tonight.

That's cool Destiny, but not all of us have hinted at being the PGO as you have. See why we font discuss this at night?

Congrats Outlaw, glad everything went well. As for me I should be getting some test results back today, the tech in the hospital seemed like everything looked well so I am hopeful. While generally night discussions don't focus on the game too much, I do hope to show you I am town and to put the focus fully on some folks I think deserve it so we can get this back under control. But thats all I can should say during a night phase.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If not Derek then who?<p> </p><p> We need to do something today and phase ends in less than 24. We need a direction or two as back up.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well if he won't agree to test with you we lynch him, sounds fair. Unless I missed something no one else has anything? </p><p> </p><p> Hate to return to MLT or machine but given d1 no ones come forward can we maybe at least assume they are ok? As in no one need confirm that and out themselves but no one is pointing fingers at them, so maybe we can move on from that at least?</p><p> </p><p> Anyone believe there is just one kill? I know that comes back to derek but just assume derek is legit what does one kill mean in terms of balance?</p>