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    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    Apart from the opener not one was a spot fest and even in the opener it wasn't flip for flips sake. There is a big difference between spot monkey and cruiser style etc. King vs Williams was more a technical affair if anything, Angle vs Joe was all round and AJ vs Daniels an intense brawl with some great spots and then the main event.

    The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

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    petercrimson, please just get out of the WWE Thread if you are going to do nothing but bash on the product. Criticizing the product is fine, but you obviously don't like the product, since you said "sports entertainment crap" when referring to the WWE product. That's fine if you don't like the "Sports Entertainment" style, but that's what WWE has been since the 80's. Please, I'm just trying to lurk and see what people's opinions on this week's Raw are, and you keep interrupting the conversation and starting arguments.

     

    I don't think he dislikes sports entertainment, he dislikes BAD sports entertainment.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    Yup and just for 77 days so not sure what Blackman was talking about. Maybe lost in translation or something. While Kash is a decent talent I'd move him to tags and used occasionally in X to put people over or let him go in order to freshen up the division.

     

    As the great Kevin Sullivan says: "Some must die so that others may live!"

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    Think he will either have a good 2 month run with it before Roode gets it back setting up Storm vs Roode for the title or Roode vs Storm will be a grudge match and we get Aries vs Angle/AJ/Joe/Hardy at BFG where he gets put over. Either way will be fine and Roode did get a couple of clean and light cheat aka for a heel clean wins in his reign. I am confident the current writing team will do good whatever they do.

    The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

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    ummm.. no. she's hot, but no

     

    The type of character that she is and was playing and how well she executes it is hotter then she objectively is. First nerd girl and now crazy chick pretty much two staple smark favs.

     

    But just looking at pictures etc of her she is not that hot, not saying ugly but not as hot as a lot of other current and former women characters. Which is also in her favor as that makes her less generic. Hope that came across well.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    Am I the only one that thinks they are playing up the Ion/Sorenson feud too much, having Ion win the title ironically whe Sorenson wished for it and won't be back for months, I think that could've gone a bit more tastefully, especially the way too short Ultimate X.

     

    Think the ultimate X disappointing more because of the bad execution of the finish and Dutt's injury early in the match. But Ion winning was the right choice as you don't want someone "new" coming in just winning the belt and he was the most viable of the heels. They kinda telegraphed it with the Sorenson thing but not too much, didn't think the segment was in bad taste or anything. Now you will have Ion holding and the new guys that get signed chasing.

     

    but the main event was badass and believable. I hadnt been that excited at the end of a match in forever. I felt like a kid again

     

    Personally to me that is one of the best things current creative is doing. Suspension of disbelief is back. With for instance the worked shoot nature of the Joey Ryan thing I am now less convinced Morgan is gone and that he might be part of Aces and Eights for instance. Ah well I am confident current creative will give us something good or at least decent as long as they don't hire bad actresses.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    To be honest, I don't go to sites to get my information. Have a friend, who absolutely hates TNA, who mentioned the hour extension before deciding not to talk about TNA anymore at all, so I wasn't aware of what exactly it entailed.

     

    I tend to avoid going to sites because I like to keep some things a surprise for myself. Makes it a lot easier to be a wrestling fan again when I don't know everything and try to judge on work rate alone.

     

    Totally get that, I tend to only go to PWI of the general sites as that's the closest to a non dirt sheet around but I do avoid spoilers.

     

    Edit:

     

    Also to ad into the three hour thing Spike apparently did ask them to go three hours of new content but TNA declined as they wanted full quality focus on the 2 hours they have. I totally understand that if true but given the depth of the roster once the reshuffle is done and the total product is hitting its stride without needing as much attention I would like for TNA to get a good B show that really gets attention, similar to like early WWECW when it still got attention so with storylines etc and not like superstars, that then payoff on Impact or ppv as the roster is so deep right now they need something for the undercard. Pretty much a revamped and improved Xplosion which they are already airing in a lot of international markets. Saturday, Sunday morning or Tuesday would be good slots.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    /nod

     

    Not to mention, the X-Division guys have proven it CAN work, which is huge. After all these years of "Old guy this, old guy that. Old guy wins this belt, old guy holds four belts." Bla bla bla.

     

    Not ONE old guy, except for Angle, was on this show, and Angle was what, midcard? This PPV is exactly what TNA needed to have happen, because now it's entirely possible to keep the focus on guys like these, which is where it should be.

     

    Oh. Latest I've heard says TNA is going to three hours. Guessing this'll mean we see more of these indy guys becoming a regular thing, with the X-Division getting an hour or so of the time throughout Impacts.

     

    Aries loses, none of this matters at all because the X-Division is put beneath everything again. Kinda feel like after last night, Destination X might be the third most important TNA PPV, behind BFG/Slammihoweveryoufnspellit.

     

    Guess you only read the headlines as the first hour will be a rewind show recapping the show before it.

     

    And thanks for one of the worst reviews ever again makhai , no taste or understanding of wrestling or how to write a review imho. Or what TNA has been doing lately imho. As evidenced even more by the Garret Bischoff comment in jest or no.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

    in The Dog Pound

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    Great great ppv. Numbers are enjoyment simple enough.

     

    Last chance four way: Highly enjoyable with good spots and without bad setups etc. 7.25/10

     

    Kash vs Andrews: Good match with Kash doing good work in butting Andrews over. 7/10

     

    Joe Promo: Good and to the point. 7.5/10

     

    King vs Williams: More technical match and also good. 7/10

     

    Daniels promo: Excellent as always. 7.75/10

     

    Dutt vs Cameron: My personal fav out of the qualifiers. 7.25/10

     

    Sorenson promo: Decent stuff and sets up a good story. Not as impressed as others apparently 6.5/10

     

    Ion vs Casanova: Did what it should do. 6.5/10

     

    King, Dutt, Andrews, Roode promo: Good stuff from the three and excellent from Roode. 7.25/10

     

    Joe vs Angle: Kickass match as always between these two. 8.25/10

     

    Daniels vs AJ video: Good package focusing on the strong parts of the story. 8/10

     

    AJ vs Daniels: Super stuff. 9/10

     

    Aries promo: Also good as always. 7.75/10

     

    Ultimate X: Good match and Dutt is a badass could have been higher but can't blame an unfortunate injury. 7.5/10

     

    Ion Promo: He did a decent job despite the annoying fans. 7/10

     

    Aries vs Roode video package: Excellent 9/10

     

    Aries vs Roode: 10/10 nough said.

     

    Total enjoyment PPV: 9.25/10

     

    Moving forward:

     

    I still expect Roode to win it back possibly with Storm costing Aries the win as he wants Roode at BFG setting up Storm vs Aries post BFG. While Roode vs Storm for the title has been lessened slightly it is still an epic story and deserves the title. But even without it it will be great. If Aries retains I expect Angle or Hardy or RVD to put him over at BFG.

     

    BFG series has now been thrown wide open elevating the excitement level of it, I think what the Roode vs Storm story has lost has been more then won in the BFG series, Aries story and X division elevation so its an overall win.

     

    In the X division I expect Ion to hold it for a while with Dutt and King being the main chasers till Sorensen comes back, after that we shall see. Williams and Kash get either let go to make room for other new guys or get transitioned to primary tag scene. King not winning is the right call as a non established guy shouldn't come out of nowhere to win it. While hot with the die hard wrestling followers he isn't as much with the casuals yet. Plus we have to see if his tag buddy shows up soon.

     

    Being the IWC some minor minor gripes: Impact zone was mediocre and not as good as the live TV's imho, King vs Williams and Andrews vs Kash went a tad too long that time should have gone to Daniels vs AJ, Ultimate X and Aries vs Roode. Would have liked the old raise the hand three times deal with the Angle submission. If Roode had kicked out of the brainbuster for another near fall it would have been 11/10.

     

    I was on the fence if TNA should go the slow route with income coming before investment as it came to advertising, going on the road etc aka the smart and safe route. But with the current product I really feel Dixie should ask Panda for a second round of investment like in 2004-2005 in order to try and blow the roof of the place aka the risky route. The talent is there, the product is there, the momentum is there, the booking is there. If it doesn't work out they can always go back to this level and pay Panda back. After the Asylum era, the Cross the Change era we are now officially in the Real era.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

    in The Dog Pound

    Posted

    Kenny Kings side of the story, source confirmed twitter:

     

     

    Kenny King released the following:

    My people's,

     

    First and foremost to all of my friends, Family and everyone riding with me on this one thank you. The love and support has been unreal. It doesn't matter if your'e a new Kenny King fan or you've been with your boy since tough enough. My passion for this sport reflects yours, and I will continue to bust my ass to give back the love you have shown me.

     

    Second I would like to thank @ringofhonor for the opportunity To master my craft against some of the best wrestlers in the world. The last 4 years have been invaluable to my career. I have nothing but love and respect for the company that allowed me to find myself and grow as a wrestler.

     

    Next, since the content of my character has been called into question, just ask about me. My integrity and HONOR has always been above reproach. But since they wanna talk bad about your boy, consider this...

     

    (spoiler alert)

     

    I was offered a contract extension, I had reservations about the parameters of the extension and [how] effective my "free agent" option would be.

     

    I gave a handshake agreement that I wouldn't do anything "screwy" with the belts. A la medusa. [WWE belt in trashcan on WCW Nitro]

     

    I gave ROH information about every move that I made regarding working for @impactwrestling. Realistically they could have just found out when they saw my black ass walking down to the ring.

     

    I was given a physical contact extension by ROH, which I respectfully declined to sign due to the reasons I stated above.

     

    If I declined to sign an actual contract extension, how could anyone think there was a verbal agreement?

     

    I took the biggest gamble of my career this weekend. So going into destination X tomorrow night I am prepared to put it all on the line. I am especially grateful to @tnadixie and @impactwrestling for giving me the opportunity to showcase my skills on a bigger stage. I was given an amazing opening and I took it. Ask Eminem how many chances you get to blow up. The world will watch tomorrow, and I got a bag full of fireworks. Tomorrow is coronation day.

     

    Thank you.

    Kenny King

     

    Between the [] are my additions for better reading.

    The Official ROH Discussion Thread

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    Posted

    Nah that was just some bs rumor over the net that it was supposed to be the Guns instead of the Headbangers. Has nothing to do with this. They gave Sabin a nice sendoff and an instant feud when/if he comes back. More to do with talent being disgruntled over the whole current direction.

     

    ANX shoot teaser talking about it:

     

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    Posted

    Yeah was more a mode of expression. With X style matches shortness doesn't have to a problem but I like the longer ones which combine both the high octane style and tell a story and have selling, less then some like but there is a logic behind it as their high impact moves have do less damage and they are used to taking a beating coming so far being smaller. AKA cruiser logic, and that's the most important thing that it remains looking realistic.

     

    Anyhoo should be a very entertaining PPV with an already decently built post show.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    Type of man that grabs a better deal when he is free to do so? Ah well I don't see this what he did as big as a deal as people make it out to be and us only having heard ROH's side of the story. Thing is with guys like Williams there is so much talent and storylines going on atm where do you fit him in? Personally I would have both him and Kash return to tag scene and have them be occasional X wrestlers.

     

    And wait wasn't he free to negotiate with other companies? So technically if he signed the deal before the show didn't that cancel out his word agreement making a tv appearance ok? Ah well think its being way overblown.

    THe RaNDoM THReaD

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    Posted

    Wow you know this board has slown down when we did not have the annual Happy 4th of July thread followed by some posters who say America sucks. Followed by Adam closing down said thread. It looks like we have to step our game up people.:p

     

    Lolz. It doesn't suck it just overrates itself in my opinion and I'll leave it at that and don't want to discuss it. Happy 4th of July yanks.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    Posted

    Yeah true but still both had ROH as their last employer. And left probably for money reasons and Aries apparently also creative differences if you want to put a name to it. The whole King situation is kinda unique contract wise. Still plenty of overlaps in total. Also instead of going Aries style and dominating the X division I would rather see Rhett come in down the line.

    The Official ROH Discussion Thread

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    Posted

    I really hope ROH survives all this though, they should be the top indy and work that niche. Don't think this deal has worked out the way they hoped. Maybe Gabe can buy them back in the future and fuse them with DGUSA and Evolve and go back to pre tv ROH or work a syndicated show instead of "major" network show.
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