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    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    you need to do it the way DDP/Goldberg did it years ago where DDP was so worn out by the time he hit his move that it took him forever to make the cover.

     

    That match is something wrestlers should aspire to replicate. It may not have had a number of flashy moves or great technical wrestling, but it told a story perfectly. It had great selling and logic.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    Apparentley TNA is going with a 4-sided ring tonight... And I guess from now on. THANK GOD!

     

    Amen.

     

    Yes, the 6-sided ring made TNA different... but I'm against doing stuff that makes you different only for the sake of being different and with no real purpose. I have never seen a TNA match that could not as easily have been held in a 4-sided ring, I have never seen anything done that specifically utilized the different ring shape. It was just weird, nothing else.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    just hoping they don't turn AJ heel.

     

    Why not? I think it would be great if Ric Flair makes him his protege and they bill him as the new 'Nature Boy', with Flair working the mic for him (AJ's main weaknes imo).

     

    While I didn't see the last show, I really don't get the reports on Jarrett going heel. It would make so much more sense for Hogan, Bischoff and Dixie to be the bad guys and the founder of TNA, now seemingly without power, trying to fight off the evil and win back his company. And given his very face-ish speech at Jan 4 (with Hogan's extremely weird heel-ish promo to counter it), it just seems very off to me.

     

    But it looks like an exciting PPV card, the most exciting card I've seen on any PPV for quite a while. It's too bad I have no way of watching it.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    While Mr./Ken Anderson seems like the best bet, with RVD as an outsider... didn't TNA say it would be a BIG surprise, eg. a big name? While I'm not saying those two doesn't have name value, I must admit that I'm hoping for someone bigger... I mean, they're going up against the likes of Hogan, Flair and Jeff Hardy in name value... can those two really do that?

     

    Given that TNA is now the new WCW, I could see Goldberg showing up if Easy E and Hogan has convinced them to splash out the big cash. Maybe Sid Vicious as an outsider.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    To the people who are complaining about the old guys being on TNA's television show.

     

    Guess what, all the young guys who are great workers are not drawing people in.

     

    The goal is to get people to tune in to watch the Outsiders and Hogan and Flair and see what they are doing. When they see Hogan Flair putting AJ Styles over like the greatest thing ever, maybe he will gain some name value with the mainstream fans. Maybe if Beer Money can go over The Outsiders they will be more than a tag team on a niche show and will actually gain some drawing power in the industry.

     

    TNA was not growing with their homegrown talent. They need to get viewers to tune in out of curiosity or nostalgia and then hook them. It's way too early to say whether they have done a good job.

     

    Exactly. And it's working already on someone like myself. Would I ever tune in on Impact in order to see Beer Money vs. British Invasion or someone like that? Never. Would I tune in to see Beer Money vs. Hall and Nash? Definately. Would I want to watch an AJ Styles promo? Not really, no. Would I want to watch Ric Flair cutting a promo on his behalf? Yeah, I would.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    The biggest problem I have with TNA is that yeah they put AJ Styles over in the last ten minutes of the show.

     

    22 mintues, not 10. The main event match was 22 minutes. And apart from that, they put Styles over on at least two other occations, first when Flair showed an interest in him (I'd say the mere association with Flair helps put him over) and secondly, and more importantly, when Hogan showed up and hyped him on on the mic.

     

    The biggest problem I have with last night show is there was all this talk of the young guys yet someone point out to me where these young guys where? Beer Money? Abyss? Desmond Wolfe? Matt Morgan? how much mic time did they get? how much mic time did the Nasty's get? the nWo v. 4,567 got 30 minutes in one segment and then got to end the show as well. Most of these guys got thirty seconds or less on the show. Seriously did we even see Beer Money's faces? What about Abyss?

     

    Was the show the worst TNA show I've seen? Oh no its not that bad. But where are these young guys at? By looking at the Spoilers its the same group of guys again. Val Venis gets a match on Impact seriously tell me what he has that 30 guys in the back couldn't give out there. Couldn't that match be given to these "young guys" that I kept hearing about for weeks?

     

    Why does everything have to come down to mic time? There are other ways to get over, and it makes sense to me to put those on the mic who are good at it. Or are you claiming that guys like Abyss and Matt Morgan do better promos than Hogan, Nash, Hall and Bischoff?

     

    They are pushing Morgan and Hernandez with a MAJOR squash surprise victory against two veterans, setting them up for the tag team titles. They are throwing Hall & Nash into a program with Beer Money, probably to push the latter. They are seemingly giving Styles, who is NOT great at the mic, one of the best mouth pieces ever as manager. They are throwing in one of the biggest names in WWE 6 months ago into the X-Division to elevate the guys there. Granted, the use of The Nasty Boys and Sean Morley doesn't make all that much sense... but you can't expect it all to be perfect right from the first shot.

     

    Thats my problem was that Hogan promised a blend of vets that have been in these trenches before and the young guys and two weeks in I'm still waiting on the young guys.

     

    You're very impatient.

     

    In the real Monday Night Wars you didn't get two weeks to get your show together. They want to declare war and spend so much time talking about former employers and defunct promotions. How many weeks should they get?

     

    Dude, have you ever watched the first episode of Monday Nitro? Last night's Impact was FAR better imo - and I'm a huge fan of WCW.

     

    TNA was better than RAW but thats not saying much since I haven't seen a RAW in years that I thought was solid top to bottom.

     

    If Impact is better than RAW and more people will now tune into Impact because of the presence of Hulk Hogan, more people should also realize exactly that and permanently switch their allegiance.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    From a casual viewer with an undying love for WCW, I enjoyed the show. For once, the backstage skits weren't annoying nor felt too long - in fact, I enjoyed them more than most of the matches. And most importantly, the show as a whole left me wanting more. So I'd say it was a success.

     

    Speaking of matches, the main event was pretty damn good. A bit too many near-falls and finishers that left to nothing (which imo damages the perceived threat of a finisher), but overall really really good.

     

    I was a bit dissapointed to see that Hogan brought in The Nasty Boys, Val Venis and Orlando Jordan... but at least Ed Leslie didn't show up. Don't they have enough irrelevant midcarders already? It's not like people Venis and Jordan have any real star power or anything... oh, and Bubba The Love Sponge? Why oh why?

     

    But I enjoyed the segments with Hall, Nash, X-Pac, Bischoff and Flair... and Hogan dressing up in black and teasing going heel several times was interesting. I missed Hardy's appereance, but from what I have read it was a dreadful match and rather wasted use of him. I mean, Homicide... really? But you can also look at it this way: the guy was the WWE's biggest draw not too long ago. Their world champion. And they're dying to get him back and still talk about him quite often. But in TNA, he's just a midcarder... I don't know whether it's intentional, but it kinda sends the signal that being big in WWE doesn't equal being big in TNA. Maybe TNA wants to show that now THEY are a big dog, just like when WWE has taken TNA main eventers like Christian and stuck them into the midcard?

     

    Anyway, the show was overall so exciting because of Hogan and the return of other WCW oldies (added some good matches) that I did not even once bother to switch over to RAW to check out Bret. And looking at their matches, it doesn't really seem like I missed anything they haven't shown 8 times during the last couple of months already...

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