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I think the thing is TK doesn’t care about being a successful business he only cares about having great wrestling matches which to him is success. After their next ppv I’m sure he’s going to say they’ve been having great shows and great matches, plus the cagematch ratings say they’re doing great so everything is great.
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Back when Bianca won the rumble I said that from my couple friends that come to watch the rumble and mania that we had a bathroom break match. That turned into an early night cause they didn’t care about her historic main event match cause they didn’t and still don’t care about her. I don’t remember where I heard it but it’s stuck with me Bianca has the gimmick dress and attitude of an 8 year old who wants to grow up to be a wrestler and she’s pretty much never evolved from that. Is she good in the ring sure but she’s lacking in every other area she’s propped up by her being John Cenaed and a demographic.
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1 hour ago, CQI13 said:
Willow hurting her - was that kayfabe? An accident? Or a botch where she got hurt herself?
From what I remember it wasn’t so much a botch but and accident resulted from a spot
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2 hours ago, Dawn said:
I'm thinking Gunther vs. LA Knight for men's finals and Lyra vs. Tiffany for women's finals.
I was thinking that too for the men’s final but I also think AJ and LA are going to keep the other from advancing all the way and Carmelo going to the finals would elevate him pretty well. I think that women’s final would be good though I think I like Tiffany adding a queen gimmick to what she is currently doing better than potentially being ms. Money in the Bank
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Gunther and Dragunov can’t meet in the finals cause they’re both on Raw but if that happens in the semi final I’d guess it’s more of a taste of what they can do together and not a full serving. Personally I think it’ll be Gunther vs Carmelo in the finals even if that’s a heel vs heel match the crowds love Gunther
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1 hour ago, FellaLibby said:
They used to do this. 3 hour Raw shows with brand vs brand matches and end with a battle royal.
Weren’t those just the winners brand got like a random pick from the other brand? That’s what I remember from those dark times but how I was intending it would be you have the matches leading up to the draft so you know you have this specific pool of say 24 men if they only did men’s singles matches that are eligible to be picked. It would definitely work better as like an hour special maybe YouTube or something just GMs making selections or trades
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned elsewhere but something I just thought of in the month leading into the draft have like 2-3 matches each raw and smackdown where the winner can decide to become eligible for the draft or opt to stay making the loser draft eligible. They could do it with tag teams, women, have some drama with a team that wins an 8 man tag and maybe some want to leave the brand setting up a feud.
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See I would’ve agreed about Liv in January or February but after the chamber match she’s just been unbearably annoying to me in all the worst ways. I don’t know what it is cause before I really bought the whole so focused on revenge she would risk and do anything but now I just don’t care about her.
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5 hours ago, GooverDan said:
Becky Lynch winning was a safe bet.
It would be fine if not for the fact that I'm tired of seeing the four horsewomen winning the title each time they need a plan B. I mean, I can tolerate Bayley because she didn't win a title for a long time, but Becky and Charlotte are starting to get "go-away" heat from me because good lord I want them out of the title picture for at least a year.
But Becky has been out of the title picture for over a year. She came back at survivor series a couple years ago and then spent all of last year doing other things until she got back into it for mania this year. Like you said she’s the safe bet to carry the title in this situation but aside from Charlotte I don’t think the others have been over used as far as championships go.
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2 hours ago, Matt_Black said:
It was billed as a tag match, Jones was involved (albeit very briefly), it counts. And Mania SHOULD matter, but that's up to the booking.
Billed as a tag but changed on the day to a handicap match so officially Jones wasn’t in the match. The past two mania’s booking has been much better than the past my only complaint is we didn’t need 15+ minutes of celebration bs at the end of night 2 but mania still matters
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57 minutes ago, Matt_Black said:
It wasn't the blow-off match, it wasn't for a title, then no it doesn't really mean anything. So it was at Mania. So what? Here's a brief list of other people who have won at Wrestlemania-
Men On A Mission
Nathan Jones
Snooki
Michael Cole.
Saying that Mania doesn’t matter tells me all I need to know also Nathan Jones wasn’t part of the match
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23 minutes ago, Matt_Black said:
No, I get the story. It's just a bad story. I could explain the plot of Red Zone Cuba, that isn't going to magically turn it into Citizen Kane.
If you got the story you wouldn’t have complained Knights win at maina didn’t mean anything. You can not like the story they’re telling but to say Knights clean win at the biggest show of the year didn’t mean anything because AJ beat him in a rematch on smackdown after cheating is just wrong. If for example AJ beat him in 2 minutes clean I could see that argument but that’s not what happened heck they had almost as much time as their mania match.
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1 hour ago, Matt_Black said:
So what you're saying is that if they run it back again, then the win at Mania did not in fact mean anything.
No I was explaining the story to you since you obviously didn’t understand it. By your logic no win will ever mean anything unless the win is clean and there is never a rematch.-
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2 hours ago, Matt_Black said:
Obviously, there are ways to advance a storyline without going to the DQ. I can count on one hand the numbers of DQs/ No-Contests AEW has had.
And we kicked off the show with 50/50 booking, meaning that the big win L.A. Knight had at Wrestlemania means absolutely nothing.
And I’m sure anything more than your one hand count doesn’t really count because of insert arbitrary reason here.
AJ had to cheat to get the win after Knight beat him clean at maina. So you bitch about a DQ finish to lead to a bigger match and you bitch when a heel cheats to win a rematch after losing clean to set up a rubber match.
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2 minutes ago, Matt_Black said:
A main event ending in a disqualification? The Paul Levesque Era looks a LOT like how pro wrestling has always been.
Fixed that for you
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@Wrestling Machine ummmm actually the cagematch ratings say Osprey and Okada are putting on banger after banger so you’re factually wrong. Also Meltzer says the Bucks are the greatest tag team ever so they can’t be on a downward spiral. All fans care about is work rate so they just need to keep pumping out matches 4* and above every week and 5* on ppv because thats what truly matters.
I say all that sarcastically but I know there are some that would be dead serious saying that.
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I definitely remember commentary mentioning a couple times he did a 6 week camp in preparation for the match don’t remember who they mentioned was there but they brought it up
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not mine but I’m just gonna leave this here. The video pretty much confirms Punks story but also Perry was standing at “gorilla” for a short time before punk came up to him. TK had the chance to do something before punk approached him but TK would have to be a boss which he keeps showing he isn’t.
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Anyone else getting the feeling the main event could go over an hour
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I think part of what makes the Uso match so disappointing is the video package before the match that had to be an all time video package and then the match didn’t deliver
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21 minutes ago, Wrestling Machine said:
I mean it would make sense! Rocky abuses his power to triumph on Saturday, Cody somehow wins it on Sunday, Rocky keeps getting in Cody's way until they have a title match at SummerSlam, Rocky vs Roman at WM41.
If Rock isn’t turning on Roman however they have Cody win Rock can claim a title shot even if he is gone until SummerSlam as has been thought because he pinned Cody. Either Rock turns on Roman tonight or Roman turns on Rock at SummerSlam either way Roman is probably costing Rock the match in August
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Chad Gable is fine and technically sound but Kurt has boat loads more charisma not to mention his own skills. I think IC title is Chads ceiling though which isn’t a bad thing I just don’t think he has enough star power to really be at that next level.
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I feel like Drew might’ve shot himself in the foot by having not resigned yet. He would fit into this situation perfectly by taking on Seth beating him because Seth isn’t 100% and be the champ when Punk comes back to have that big feud. I know it’s not like he could’ve known this is how things would shake out though if it were me I’d have offered to sign on Monday
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Considering the dropping ratings and attendance, possibly even buyrates depending on how their next show does yeah I’d say that’s a bad thing. My apologies that the first and second parts of my post didn’t have giant flags noting the serious and the tongue in cheek sides, but in all seriousness considering the money he’s paying out and the talent he has they should be doing better but they’re not which is Tony’s fault he’s booking for himself not for a wide audience.