Genadi

I'm prob going to hell for this but it made me feel good for some reason

Punk and DB have been featured more wrestling wise on WWE programming the last 6 months. If it's seeing those guys go on a weekly basis that people want they've delivered on point. Wrestlemania is more about creating a WM moment. I think that's what they were trying to give prob on account that the match would be lost in the shuffle anyway.

You just realised this

Few Mania thoughts - The Rock has always had a terrible Sharpshooter. D.Bryan wasn't buried, he'll be champ again (happy to bet anyone that disagrees ). Taker vs HHH shouldn't/didn't need to be in a HIAC. Rock gassed 6 minutes in. Vince is the master of swerve, the finish wasn't a shock. Santino needs a push. Could've done without the song and dance. Ric Flair can still afford a nice suit.

Triple agree, waited through a year and a half worth of hype for it to come off as IMO a huge let down. Imagine the intensity most others would have brought, Cena has dropped even further down my opinion poll. His chance to prove he can hang with the real big boys on the mic (one of his biggest assets) and he's blown it thus far big time. I watched the promo most Cena fans were raving about last week and while agree it's prob his best Rock promo yet it's far from the standard guys like Rock, Austin etc were cutting every week. Jericho vs Punk has become my most anticipated match on the card, loved there promo last week.

Someone's prob mentioned this already, but latest rumour I heard was HHH vs Taker at Mania with HBK as special ref.

Just caught The Rock's promo from RAW. What a special, special talent he is.

Fixed that for you. I gotta stop coming into this thread it's hurting parts of my brain.

Then again some people just like to argue I suppose

Triple H had X-Pac heat for a while there (if my memory is working) around 2004-2005. People were switching channels for his segments and it resulted in lower ratings. I could give a long list of workers who've had "X-Pac heat" but it'd just be my opinion based of stats that are variable and reported by wrestling reporters. People asking for "proof" need to realise and drill it into their head it's all subjective, like most things in wrestling and like I've said before a thousand times... or whenever these debates pop up. If you don't think X-Pac heat is real good for you, you may not think Hogan was a great worker either but there's really no argument to be made.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't know. I mean, is it really worth the money to see her get hurt? I don't hate her that bad... I can always change the channel or turn the volume if she becomes unbearable. <p> </p><p> With Bischoff and Vince, for a long time, when they would come on, I would just fume. They woudln't even have to say or doing anything. I was already pissed off. I was ready to go ballistic.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Bischoff during the WCW nWo run was some of the best heat of a non wrestler I've ever seen or experienced. People wanted to kill him.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>X-Pac heat is a completely made up term...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Basically "X-Pac heat" is when a small percentage of ultra smart marks decide they don't like somebody so they can't possibly actually be over.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is a great basis for a sitcom, the world according to lazorbeak <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not sure if serious...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm always serious <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>X-Pac heat is a completely made up term. If somebody actually dropped ratings or hurt attendance, WWE wouldn't push them. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is completely false. A quick revision of history proves so.</p>

Hopefully he still signs.

You know that's a good point, I completely forgot Taker's out and returning soon. Now I'm about 30% sure that's gonna be Sting

Or maybe we'd be talking about what a washed up has been loon Sting is and hoping Warrior returns to face Taker at Mania. Both were pretty hard on the juice back then you never know, they could've traded history's I smell a mod

I don't know why you say that considering none of the contract details (if there is a contract) have been made known. If he isn't motivated by money why has he continued to squeeze 500k a year from a company that's been bleeding money for years. I'm not saying it's all about the money but to say it doesn't play at least a part I think is naive. I know he's said openly on a few occasions he'd love to do a Mania before he retires but I don't think a place on the card alone would do it.

Again depends on how they debut him. Jericho's WWF debut is still talked about as being one of the greatest of all time. He was hardly known to alot of WWF fans and to the ones who knew him had seen him being jobbed out weekly on Nitro. If WWE remind old viewers and introduce new ones to Sting well I'd say he'll get a huge pop. WWE fans for the large part pop at what they're made to pop at, the company has been doing it well for 20+ years now. If Vince wants Sting's debut to be a big deal, they'll debut him in WCW territory and he'll pop the roof off. One big question no one's asked yet is how or if they'll handle the whole coming down from the rafters deal. I really hope this doesn't sound disrespectful to Owen but I would love to see him up there one more time. Well there's $, then there's $.... oh and more $ I know what you mean as a Sting fan but I feel the opposite. We all know he's very careful of how his character is used and the WWE seem to need him more than he needs them for the first time in well ever I think.

Shawn Michaels lost two years in a row to Taker at Mania, it didn't exactly hurt his status as a legend or anything. Losing to Taker at Mania is not exactly being jobbed out is my point. In fact there's an argument to make that it's more of a push, factoring in of course how the loss takes place. I can see them booking it as Sting pushing Taker further than anyone in history has, including Michaels. If there's one time where WWE seems to get the booking spot on it's Mania, hopefully they do it right.

Depends. If he asks and expects the type of contract he wanted years back it probably will go down like that. What else can you do with a guy that wanta a Taker type contract but hasn't proved himself in the company. I like Sting (alot always have) but he needs to lower his expectations and realise all of that success he's had means very little inside the WWE bubble. If he can swallow his pride, work hard and commit to a long term deal where he's on the road the sky's the limit imo.

Haha, I got a PM about Mistico signing and had a mark out moment I'll jump back on in an hour if you're still up I got the date of when I'm getting those presents from DM..... WHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! A lil excited

WCW deserves more than a one off bingo hall show. Probably lucky to get that though.

Yes it was exactly like that, the trenchcoat sealed the deal for me. I've always said just the vignettes alone for a Taker vs Sting match would be awesome. Hopefully they will be, looks like a job for James Earl Jones.

After watching that video I'd say it's a 99% sure bet it's Sting. Only 10 years too late, still will be fun to see.