WCW Quotes 98-2001

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This is a cut and paste from another froum, but well worth a read (and a giggle). Beggers belief at what went on during this era. " So credit belongs to: - Some guy on DVDR who I assume typed up the Observer quotes - Dave Meltzer for those quotes, some of which showing his frustration and boredom at WCW are hilarious - Power Slam writers for the same reason ........ Quote #1 "Nobody has any idea why they brought a live tiger from the zoo to accompany Steiner to the ring on Nitro. Backstage, when he was trying to get a photo with the tiger, the tiger nearly took a chuck out of Rey Mysterio's eye" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: October 10, 2000. _ Quote #3 "Madusa came out in a bikini. The implants looked ridiculous but this is a business of excess. She came out with Nitro cologne. It was the weirdest thing as Heenan was getting over just how horrible smelling the cologne is. It is a WCW product and they were pushing how bad it smelled. Madusa started screaming it was bull**** and threw the cologne on Heenan, who reacted like it smelled like cow manure. In fact, they actually used the word manure to describe the smell of the cologne. This was weird to say the least" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: November 1, 1999. _ Quote #5: "WCW.com ran a contest involving Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair. I'm actually not sure what the contest was for. Anyway, we got numerous reports from people who said that if you vote for Flair, the total number for Hogan automatically increases by five." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: Februaru 28, 1999. _ Quote #7 "Oklahoma then threw BBQ sauce in Madusa's eyes to set up Madusa vs. Oklahama in a feud over the cruiserweight title" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 10, 2000. _ Quote #9 "It wasn't Bret Hart driving the monster truck nor was Sid in the car that was being run over, although both were the original plan. Hart was told what part of the car to drive over and where Sid would be in the car so as to not drive over him. Hart refused saying he wasn't an experienced stunt driver. There was no problem with his decision and he was apologized to for being asked" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 10, 2000. _ Quote #12 "Throughout the show, they (the NWO) were torturing Bret Hart. Nash was torturing Hart and in the background you could hear the director wrapping up the scene. The final scene saw Hart coming out with a pipe while covered in makeup to make it appear he'd been beaten up on. It was the same makeup they used for Arn Anderson, totally exposing that angle. Hart challenged the NWO guys to come out. Nash & Jarrett came out with bats. Then it got really silly. Hart was in a stand-off with Nash and Jarrett forever because Funk & Anderson arrived so late. Apparently live it was obvious Hart & Nash were having a hard time not laughing because the timing was so screwed up. Funk came out with a flaming branding iron and Anderson with a bucket of water. Anderson threw the bucket of water on Hart, with the idea that the makeup would run. The makeup didn't run, but the announcers had to sell that it did." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 24, 2000. _ Quote #14 "The Match (Kevin Nash vs. Sid) was in slow motion. Jarrett came in, but Sid got the guitar from him, clocked Nash with it and then laid on his back. The announcers were talking about how Sid was outsmarting everyone by pretending he was the one who got hit with the guitar. There were peices of the broken guitar surrounding Nash's body, including in his hair and a big peice on his chest, while there was no debris anywhere close to Sid" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 31, 2000. _ Quote #16 "There was zero heat for Vicious vs. Jarrett. Earlier in the show Nash announced it as non-title. Jarrett demanded WCW overrule Nash and make it a title match. WCW announced it was a U.S. Title match. That made perfect sense, since the world champion should be challenging for the US belt. Jarrett hit Sid with a guitar shot which busted his head open hardway. Vicious said he got a concussion from the guitar shot. After the show, Vicious confronted Mark Madden and yelled at him. Madden made a remark about the three-way and said that Vicious may be the "monkey in the middle", which of course is a kids game. Vicious was told by someone that Madden called him a monkey and he was very upset about it. Madden tried to explain what he actually said but Sid, I guess with his head busted upon and groggy from the possible concussion and jetlagged from Germany, wasn't interested in hearing." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 21, 2000. _ Quote #18 "A Tv Series starring Duggan called 'Biker's Court' was attempting to be sold for syndication at the NATPE convention last week. It was a worked cross between Judge Judy and Jerry Springer, with bikers as the jurors, a silicon implanted baliff and Duggan carrying his 2X4 as the judge. A typical episode is a midget smoker who is suing the tobacco companies claiming smoking stunted his growth and asking for compensation for a multimillion dollar NBA career that he didn't have" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 21, 2000. _ Quote #20 "The crowd didn't care about this program and the stretcher aspect of the match was preposterous. Daffney did a hurricanrana and her blue wig flew off in the process. At one point they put David (Flair) on a stretcher and he was halfway to the back. He got off the stretcher, totally revived, and didn't sell it like he'd even been beaten. Finally they taped David to the stretcher and had to sell that David couldn't get off with this athletic tape that wasn't even holding. The bell rang for no reason. Crowbar got carried off in a stretcher with that ridiculous tape. The funny thing is that the stretchers had restrainers that could have locked the guys in that would have at least looked better than that silly athletic tape. Then they put Daffney in a wheelchair and taped her up. Her being taped was the silliest of the three in that the tape didn't hold but she still had to sell it." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 28, 2000 Quote #21 "La Parka was reading the financial pages when Madusa propositioned him." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 28, 2000 _ Quote #23 "The Dog got loose from Knobbs and apparently he was drinking out of the toilet. I just saw him on his knees in the bathroom with Knobbs telling him to stop. It took several minutes before it was explained what he was actually doing. Dog wrestled Smiley. Smiley spanked the Dog before the match. After the match, Dog went after Scott Dikinson, with Mark Madden mentioning that Scott Dinkinson's full time job is a mailman (which is true). Dog tried to tree Smiley backstage after the match" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 20, 2000. _ Quote #25 "When Mark Madden told Arn Anderon how well recieved his segment was, Anderson replied by saying 'That must mean I'm going to get fired'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 20, 2000 _ Quote #27 "Douglas pinned him (Funk) and grabbed the belt. Mike Awesome beat Wall in a tables match. Awesome and Douglas started beating on Wall but DDP came out of the back of the ambulance and threw Awesome in the back and the ambulance took off. Then they went to a cutaway with Russo holding a casket with a bunch of New Blood members as pall bearers, including Douglas without a hair out of place and Awesome, in his regular clothes." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 29, 2000 _ Quote #29 "Jarrett introduced Russo as the guy who turned the WWF around and called him Vince McMahon's best kept secret. Russo came out to the Road Warriors music. He talked about getting screwed by the good ol' boys while a great percentage of both the live and TV audience had no clue what he was talking about. Bischoff came out to tease a confrontation, but they hugged. They announced that all of the titles were vacated. When Sid was teasing he was going to hit Bischoff, Bischoff made a comment about Sid not having scissors. Bischoff was so clearly stunned that the crowd didn't react to the scissors line that he must have thought that they didn't hear it the first time, so he said it again, also to no reaction." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 17, 2000. _ Quote #32 "They (DDP and Mike Awesome) were having a good match when Mark Madden said in the new WCW they were going to have winners and losers and the refs aren't going to be calling DQ's. Literally seconds later, Billy Silverman called the DQ." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 17, 2000 _ Quote #34 "Meng speared a life sized poster of Goldberg. Meng used the poster to block Knobbs spraying him with a fire extinguisher. Meng then threw Knobbs off a 30-foot balcony" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 24, 2000 _ Quote #36 "The big finish was totally screwed up. The idea was that Jarrett and Page were to climb the scaffolding. Arquette would climb the scaffolding, hit Jarrett with the guitar, who would take the bump through the gimmicked part of the stage that they would fall through. When leaving the ring, by accident, Asya stepped on the set and fell through, so everyone could see that it was gimmicked. Arquette than ran out and apparently wasn't given directions as to what to avoid, and fell into the gimmicked part of the stage. So Jarrett and Page improvised up there with Page deciding to save the show and take the bump into what was already evident as the gimmicked hole in the stage. No idea at press time how this will be edited" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 08, 2000. _ Quote #38 "Terry Funk won a handicap match for the hardcore title over Norman Smiley and Ralphus. Most of the match was backstage with Ralphus, dressed in a catchers outfit with a catchers mask, just standing there. The height of the silliness was them (Funk and Smiley) throwing cardboard boxes at each other and selling it. Finally, Funk brought Ralphus in front of the curtain and into the ring, and unmasked him and pulled his pants down. Ralphus basically stood there with his butt showing...Ralphus by this time looked like he was going to have a heart attack" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 15, 2000 _ Quote #40 "Russo and David were at Flair's home in Charlotte. (Russo) said that Reid was the favorite one and that David had to sleep in the garage and swim in a shark infested creek. Russo was jumping up and down on Flair's bed. " - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000 Quote #41 "Madusa vs. Liz were supposed to have a cage match but Luger came out dressed as a cage repair man and saved Liz. Russo came out and hit Luger with a low blow, but he was wearing a cup so he no sold it and rubbed the cup in Russo's mouth. The security maced Luger. Palumbo attacked Luger with that 60's comic book twister deal. Awesome attacked Nash. Nash called him Eddie Money, who was a rock star probably when Nash was in college, and challenged him to an ambulance match. Scott Steiner went outside for a street fight with Tank and Rick. The Goldberg monster truck made the save. Nash nearly killed Awesome with the greatest power bomb in the sport. Just before Awesome faced sure paralysis, DDP made the save to help Nash do the move before he dropped the guy on his head. The (ambulance) match ended with Awesome never put in the ambulance." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000 _ Quote #43 "During the commerical, they soaked the ropes with gasoline. Sting came out, then Vampiro came out and called him Steve, and said they would have an inferno match on the PPV. Sting said that's nuts and he isn't going to do it. At this point the ropes were supposed to set on fire but they didn't. The fans started laughing and booing," - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000 _ Quote #45 "They built to a spot where Vampiro acted like he was going to bite the head off Sting's crow but Sting made the save. After being beaten up, Vampiro started laughing. Vampiro was making reference to 'Steve Borden' not wanting to work. When Sting pounded on him, he called Vampiro 'Ian'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000 _ Quote #47 "Russo then came out to confront Nash, and basically tried to take 100% of the credit for creating the 'Diesel' character that made Nash a star. Blood fell from the ceiling, most of which fell several feet to the side of Nash and much of which fell on front row spectators." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000 _ Quote #49 "Russo wanted to be dragged behind the (monster) truck through the desert by Goldberg but the higher ups nixed the angle. Russo was very upset about this" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 11, 2000 _ Quote #52 "The Thrillers went back to the Power Plant. They all attacked Mike Graham. That was funny because Graham leg dives Sanders and put him in a figure four, and when there are six guys ready to jump you, the best thing to do is run, and the worst thing to do is to take one guy to the ground and let the other five stomp the hell out of you. They attacked Orndorff, who in every camera shot posed titled so his good arm, which he clearly had pumped up before taping, was right in front of the camera" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 18, 2000 _ Quote #54 "A fan hit Goldberg with a cardboard Star of David" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: October 16, 2000 _ Quote #56 "CNN ran a special on Goldberg on 10/22. They showed Vince Russo and the booking team talking about a Nitro where Bill Goldberg would get revenge on Scott Steiner. Russo had an idea that Steiner would be in the dressing room bleaching his mustache and Goldberg would pour Clorox down Steiner's throat. Ed Ferrara noted that you don't bleach a mustache with Clorox. He then said they could use bleach instead."- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: October 30, 2000 _ Quote #58 "Buff Bagwell did an interview before the PPV with Alex Marvez. Regarding his attempt over the summer to go to the WWF, he said that on the New Blood Rising PPV, Kanyon was supposed to beat him and take Judy Bagwell as his valet. He said it was Russo's idea, (and) that nobody but Russo liked the idea. He said he asked Kanyon 'Are you sure you want my mother as your f---in valet?'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: November 06, 2000 _ Quote #60 "Luger ripped on Mark Madden to start the show. Seems that Luger was mad at Madden for saying his bodyfat percentage has gone up. He made fun of Madden's physique in an unscripted segment Madden didn't know anything about. Luger then brought out Ross Foreman and yelled at him for not having any photos of him in WCW Magazine" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: November 13, 2000 Quote #61 "On the 12/4 Nitro (where wrestlers were told to stop mentioning Scott Hall), when the crowd was chanting 'We Want Hall' during the DDP & Nash vs. 3 Count match, on the closed captioning, it read, 'We Want Hall'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 18, 2000 _ Quote #63 "The 12/18 Nitro was supposed to practically be built around Rick Steiner as the surprise guy, but he wasn't there because they forgot to tell him" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 01, 2001 _ Quote #65 "Meng pinned Bigelow in a bad match. Highlight was said to be Bigelow throwing Meng's boot at the announcers and Tenay catching it" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 22, 2001 _ Quote #67 "Beginning this week, Nitro is going head-to-head with Thunder in Australia" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 22, 2001 _ Quote #69 "Chavo Jr. & Animal beat Misterio Jr. & Kidman. Schiavone was waiting all day for the line talking about Misterio Jr. wrestling in Mexico, and then said, Mexico is bordered to the south by Guatemala, not Nicaragua, as everybody knows. For the other three million viewers who don't have any idea why he said this, it's because 11 years ago, there was this guy who did a wrestling newsletter named Steve Beverly who had the ear of a guy at TBS named Jeff Carr. Carr made the call that WCW Saturday Night should only have one host, and it was Ross. Schiavone was so mad he went to the WWF for several years. He's hated Beverly ever since. Anyway, last week on 'Who Wants to be a Millionaire', a contestant was asked what country bordered Mexico to the south and called Beverly for a lifeline and Beverly said Nicaragua and his friend hesitated, but went with Beverly's pick, and was wrong." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 05, 2001 _ Quote #71 "In a TV commercial in the Nashville market for the 2/18 PPV, the voiceover really says 'expect a night of run-ins'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 12, 2001 _ Quote #73 "Kanyon then started attacking the mop. Fans chanted for Cat to save the mop from a bad beating, and Cat in fact did so" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 05, 2001 _ Quote #76 "Ace (had) an exchange with Luger. Luger compared himself to a Ferrari and said that if you keep hitting a Ferrari with a sledge hammer, pretty soon it's worthless. Ace's reaction was something to the effect of having no idea what it meant" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 26, 2001 _ Quote #78 "They had La Parka on the ground and drew those chalk lines around him, except he was still laying there. Gene uttered the immortal line to Juvi as he was talking Spanish, 'Don't talk Mexican to me'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 18, 1999 _ Quote #80 "Ralphus reminds me of Chumley the Walrus on the old Tennessee Tuxedo cartoon show" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 25, 1999 _ Quote #83 "Michael Buffer came out for absolutely no reason. See, he was there to announce the main event. But get this, there was no main event. Flair, at this moment, fell out of the turnip truck, grabbed a hoe and kept falling down" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 22, 1999 On a side note, I would highly recommend buying the 2/22/1999 back issue of the Observer. Dave's WCW coverage that week is amongst the funniest things that I have ever read. He sounds like the product was so depressing that it drove him to drinking before he would even attempt to write about it. A small excerpt from the beginning: "Nitro may have been the worst episode of the show in history. They showed so many clips of Scott Steiner and Kimberly and Ric Flair and Bret Hart and Roddy Piper that I thought I was having nightmares about having been a horrible human being and being sent to Hell, and when I got there, I was sent to a room with all the evil wrestling promoters past and present and they made me sit in the chair next to people like Fritz Von Erich, Herb Abrams and Nick Gulas and forced us to watch Nitro episodes like this 24 hours a day." The entire section is a fantastic read and like three pages long, Meltz just sounds like he's losing his mind having to cover what WCW was turning into. _ Quote #86 "There was some heat on Hogan calling the camera man a 'jiggly, jiggly, jew' on Nitro, but eveidently not enough for the segment not to have been replayed on every show during the week" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 15, 1999 - Quote #87 "In a spot that aired twice on the show, they aired a promo for Nitro that had never aired before, (featuring) Sean Waltman who hasn't been with the company for a year" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 22, 1999 - Quote #88 "Raven used an oar to Bigelow's groin" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 22, 1999 - Quote #89 "WCW Legal Affairs sent a letter to Chuck Black of Lethal Records complaining about a CD called 'hWo Harlem World Order'. Lethal Records then claimed that investigating trademarks for New World Order uncovered nothing having to do with WCW, but a registration for clothing by a gay clothing line (Brawn of California) that has been used since 1992" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 29, 1999 - Quote #90 "Hart and Bischoff tried to work the people and the wrestlers backstage that the angle was a shoot as they argued backstage with no cameras on in front of the wrestlers, but Bischoff has done that so often now that the wrestlers consider it a pathetic joke and no one bought it" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 05, 1999 - Quote #91 "Ricky Rachmann has signed a contract. The first week he was on live, the first words out of his mouth were how he didn't know much about wrestling" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 05, 1999 - Quote #92 "Goldberg was originally scheduled against Bigelow., who is out with minor elbow surgery. They had planned to do the first ever Goldberg vs. (Bret) Hart match as a replacement however things got screwed up. Hart was in Toronto doing promotion for Nitro and was supposed to get picked up and taken to the airport. His ride never came." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 05, 1999 - Quote #93 "There will be an open change on WCW Saturday Night to go along with all the visual changes on Nitro. The changes in Nitro remind me of putting a nice, fresh coat of paint on a house that had just been hit by a Tornado" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999 - Quote #95 "The plan was for Stevie Ray to win and rename the (nWo) Black & White into a new group that would be a modern version of The Black Panthers. That's a thirty year old term, and Adams and Horace are white" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999 - Quote #96 "Raven & Saturn did an interview where they talked about being friends in high school and both liked Beulah McGillicuddy. Saturn said, 'That was Tommy'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999 - Quote #97 "Chris Benoit was on FAN in Toronto and asked if he thought that there was a conspiracy to destroy the company from within. He said 'It appears that way'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999 - Quote #98 "WCW took out a huge ad in USA Today with the new logo which read "Looks like something a bird left on the hood of my car", and never mentioned wrestling once" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999 - Quote #99 "Wrestlers are making bets backstage over who will be the first to trip on the new set" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999 - Quote #100 "WCW ordered a ton of new business card, stationary etc. with the new logo and the address on all the cards spelled 'Altanta'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999 - Quote #101 "Flair was committed (to a mental hospital on Nitro Monday). On Thursday's Thunder they announce he's out of the mental hospital and backstage making changes on the card. On Sunday he wrestles in Minneapolis. But on Monday, one week later, he's been in the nut house for the entire week and still there, running around in the same underwear like he never left" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 03, 1999 - Quote #102 "They showed Hogan going in for knee surgery. Hogan was walking into the hospital, not selling it" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 03, 1999 - Quote #103 "WCW is coming out with Goldberg, Hogan, Savage and Sting Air Fresheners. And Nash. The company that is marketing them wanted the first four. WCW begged them to include Nash." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999 - Quote #104 "A new-look Ricky Rachmann interviewed a NASCAR driver" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999 - Quote #105 "Flair showed up with the mental patients and a roided up girl, and was nearly the first casualty of the ramp" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999 - Quote #106 "Barry Windham is actually out of action because he's having liposuction on his gut" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999 - Quote #107 "Goldberg was on QVC and when asked abut what he's doing in the future, he said he really doesn't know because they don't tell him anything" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999 - Quote #108 "Misterio beat Juventud Guerrerra with fans chanting 'DUI' at Guerrera" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999 - Quote #109 "Flair is about to be dropped from the Time Magazine Man of the Century INTARNET balloting where he is currently in second place behind Jesus Christ. More than 20 million people have voted, making it the biggest web poll in history, with Flair getting more than 310,000 votes as of 3/31. Flair is being dropped because Janice Castro, the editor of Time.com, said his showing is due to unfair lobbying from wrestling web sites. Jesus is about to go down as well, as religious organizations have gotten members to flood the ballot box too. Time.com is planning an exit strategy, however with the God of wrestling and the Son of God removed, the big winner in the poll appears to be Adolf Hitler, who would become the front runner" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999 - Quote #110 "They traded hard garbage can shots. Tony Schiavone in his infinite retardedness killed those by saying that they sounded great but really don't hurt. After Schiavone explained how the garbage can shots don't hurt, Bigelow went out and killed Hak dead with a wicked shot. Schiavone then (again) said it made a great noise , but didn't hurt as bad as it sounded" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999 - Quote #111 "In an employees meeting the week before the Vegas show, Bischoff told everyone that because of the new set, graphics, open and music, Nitro would do a 7.0" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 19, 1999 - Quote #112 "They are going to send DJ Ran to house shows thinking it will help attendance" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 7, 1999 - Quote #114 "Curt Hennig came out and did this really awful country singing. Duncum joined him and made it worse"- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 7, 1999 - Quote #117 "Hogan came back and suggested doing an old vs. new angle, largely because he wants to shoot on the new guys for never drawing money"- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 7, 1999 - Quote #119 "Asya, under her real name Christi Wolf, was on the Jenny Jones show playing the role of someone who was a geek in high school and look at her now. Now she's no longer a geek. She's just a woman who looks like a guy on steroids with giant implants"- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 7, 1999 - Quote #120 "WCW announced the signing of rap star Master P. P will appear at major television tapings including the Nitro at the Georgia Dome and The New Orleans Superdome. P bragged in a conversation that his appearing would sell out both shows." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 14, 1999 _ Quote #122 "Bischoff said the Higher Power was initialed VM and that on the other station they just keep recycling the same crap. Bischoff figured it was VM, but didn't know. Backstage when Raw was on and so many people were watching Raw instead of paying attention to their own live show, he was relieved that it was VM so he didn't look bad" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 14, 1999 _ Quote #124 "La Parka & Silver King beat Damien & Ciclope. This was a total complete disaster. Tony Schiavone and Bobby Heenan laughed their way through the match, saying over and over in the most demeaning tone that this was a 'Mexican Hardcore Match'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 14, 1999 _ Quote #126 "Savage's girls seduced Savage. Stupid Nash jumped into the limo and they slammed the door. Savage drove it a few yards and jumped out and a Hummer ran into the limo. They spent $100,000 to get a 2.7 quarter" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 14, 1999 _ Quote #128 "Steiner undid the protective mats around ringside. He then piledrove Sting on a protective mat." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 14, 1999 - Quote #131 "Master P, who Bischoff tried to get over as a life long wrestling fan, didn't even know the name of the guy he was doing his program with (Hennig) and referred to him as 'the cowboy guy'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 21, 1999 - Quote #134 "Tank Abbot it still being flown in to every Nitro and still under contract, they just aren't using him" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 28, 1999 - Quote #136 "Bret Hart is planning on returning at the (big Georgia Dome show). In WCW's infinite wisdom on Nitro this week, they never once mentioned Hart was coming back but did do an angle to build for the Ernest Miller vs. Jerry Flynn match for the show" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 28, 1999 - Quote #138 "When Sting said 'I've got two words for you' and the crowd responded 'Suck it' in New Orleans, he thought the cameras were off. Boy did that come off as a lame finish to the TV show" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: June 28, 1999 - Quote #140 "Backstage, Savage threatened Torrie, and even gave her a slap. She noticeably laughed, ruining the scene. Even worse was Savage confronting Gorgeous George, ripping her Nash t-shirt off and literally throwing her across the room" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: July 12, 1999 - Quote #142 "Buff has got to be the geekiest babyface in the business. He was kissing up to the crowd unmercifully. At the end, Buff told them to hit his music, and they didn't" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: July 12, 1999 - Quote #144 "Eddie Guerrero claimed that one of the Mexicans stole his wallet but didn't know which one because they all wore masks" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: July 12, 1999 - Quote #145 "A ridiculously brutal Hardcore Battle Royal cost more than $100,000 to produce, was hyped so poorly it didn't result in one added buy, was so poorly lit it was nearly impossible to watch on television, and resulted in several needless injuries for wrestlers taking crazy bumps that didn't even get over because of how it was shot" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: July 19, 1999 - Quote #147 "Judy Bagwell chased Ric Flair around the ring" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: July 19, 1999 - Quote #149 "Hogan on WCW Live, amongst other things, said Pat Patterson made a pass at him on a road trip" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: July 26, 1999 - Quote #152 "The fans booed Hogan a lot. Sing asked the fans if he should team with Hogan. They booed heavily. Sting, listening to the advice of the fans, then agreed to team with Hogan" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: August 02, 1999 - Quote #154 "Lash Leroux wrestled Prince Iaukea for 50 seconds. Those 50 seconds were enough for 1.2 million households to switch over (to Raw)" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: August 02, 1999 - Quote #156 "I don't know what they did for all those years in the Power Plant with Tatum because they sure didn't teach him how to wrestle. The No Limit Soldiers scewed up and Swoll hit Tatum with a heart punch leading to Hennig's win. Tatum forgot to sell the heart punch though" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: August 02, 1999 - Quote #158 "For the record, the quarter with Benoit, Malenko, Saturn and Douglas drew a 3.3 quarter. The final quarter (Hogan vs. Sid) did a 2.9" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: August 02, 1999 - Quote #160 "Chris Jericho's final WCW match was 7/21 in Peoria, IL in a tag match teaming with Eddie against Kidman and Mysterio. Before the match, Jericho said that if he got pinned he'd leave WCW. Misterio than said everyone already knew it was his last night in WCW. (After the match) all four hugged in the ring. There were fans in near tears, as was Jericho. Kidman started a Jericho chant. Jericho said that he was overwhelmed by the response, but he still thinks that Peoria sucks" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: August 02, 1999 - Quote #161 "Miller was legitimately very upset at Bagwell for the promo were Bagwell acted like Miller, particularly feeling that the black face made it come across as racist" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: August 02, 1999 - Quote #162 "Sid powerbombed La Parka on a bag of popcorn" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: August 23, 1999 - Quote #211 "Shane Douglas now is claiming that he'll put up his entire annual salary as a bet if he and Flair both get interview time to build it up, that their match would beat Raw in the quarters. For his sake, nobody better take him up on that bet" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: August 13, 1999 - Quote #212 "Shane Douglas asked the crowd if he was the real deal. There were more booes than cheers" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: August 13, 1999 - Quote #213 ***************************** WCW FALL BRAWL FINAL POLL RESULTS Thumbs up - 0 Thumbs Down - 67 - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 20, 1999 - Quote #215 "The Demon vs. Vampiro feud was scheduled to go like this. Demon was to be revealed as the Son of the Devil, I swear I'm not making this up, who had turned good because he turned his back on his father. Vampiro would be revealed to have been sent down, or up, however the geography goes, to garner revenge. On the New Years Eve PPV, Demon would toss Vampiro into a vat of holy water, and when he got out, he'd change to a new character" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 20, 1999 - Quote #217 "CG Afi, the Lodi fan who runs in every week, got popped in the eye legit by security at Nitro. Doug Dillinger was clued into the angle, local security wasn't. One of them chased him and punched him in the eye" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 22, 1999 ****** - Quote #220 "Kidman was remarkably alert in the ring after taking a 90 minute shower with Torrie Wilson" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 18, 1999 - Quote #222 "The Nitro Girls are expected to be back on the 10/11 Nitro. They were pulled for internal disagreements" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 18, 1999 - Quote #224 "Knobs beat Stevie Ray in a street fight in 3:53. Not as bad as it sounded on paper. Then again, decapitation sounds better than that match" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 18, 1999 - Quote #226 "Bagwell then came out, without his gimmick, wearing an 'I'm doing a job' face, wrestling La Parka in a grudge match from Thursday, visibly showing he wasn't allowed to do anything on offense, and making La Parka look like an idiot, then laying down for the pin, getting right up and saying something to the effect of 'Russo, did I do the job right?'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 25, 1999 - Quote #228 "They did a show long skit of them (Hall & Nash) trying to sneak into the building, including once with Nash acting like he was drunk and supposedly throwing up on Doug Dillinger" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 25, 1999 - Quote #230 "It was apparent within five minutes that we can add color commentator to the list of things (wrestling, doing interviews and booking) that Kevin Nash can't handle. He started by saying that everyone said he was a bad booker but he was smart enough to book himself into a retirement angle so he doesn't have to take any bumps and still makes big money. He spent the rest of his show doing his 'I'm too cool for wrestling' gimmick, which would work if he was funny. Nash spent the rest of the show mocking Tenay's call of Duggan's finisher as the 'old glory' by calling Misterio's move an 'old glory huricanrana' and the like so many times that Tenay even told Nash he wore the joke out. Nash continued with the line the rest of the show" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 25, 1999 - Quote #232 "Nash noted how whenever there's a (video) package on somebody before the match, it's almost a sure bet that guy is going to win" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 25, 1999 - Quote #233 "Leno asked Hogan if he had any Presidential campaign issues ("flat tax brother"). Leno asked him what the flat tax should be. Hogan stuttered before coming up with 16 percent. When Leno asked him how he got that number, he stuttered again and mumbled something about 16 percent being higher than 15 percent" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 7, 1998 _ Quote #234 "Scott Hall had a mishap wrecking a rented Cadillac in Orange County, Florida. He fell asleep at the wheel. The car rolled over three times. They took a breathalyzer and he wasn't even intoxicated." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 7, 1998 _ Quote #235 "Scott Steiner showed up to plead guilty to terroristic threats. Paul Kaspereen, a worker with the Georgia Department of Transportation, was directing traffic and wouldn't let Steiner's car into a closed lane. Steiner climbed out of his truck and said "Move or I will run you over". Steiner got back in the car and drove it, hitting Kaspareen lightly. He then told him again to move or he'd run him over, and then hit him a second time. Steiner's attorney told the judge that he plead guilty only because he thought the jury might convict him because of his wrestling heel character" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 7, 1998 _ Quote #236 "Fans were taunting Bret Hart about his (groin) injury. (Hart) said that none of them even had groins" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 7, 1998 _ Quote #237 "Van Hammer was an honorary cheerleader during the Cowboys-Vikings Thanksgiving game and was pointed out by John Madden" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 7, 1998 _ Quote #238 "The Giant was accused by a hotel clerk of coming up to her and saying 'Do you know why they call me The Giant?' and she responded 'Because you're so tall' and he responded by allegedly whipping it out and rubbing it on her. Because of The Giant's size, the police were scared to death and sent 24 officers to the Mid South Coliseum to pick him up" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 14, 1998 _ Quote #239 "At one point, Scott Hall wrecked three cars in a month and two within 24 hours" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 14, 1998 _ Quote #240 "Bret Hart came out for an interview. With no programs to talk about, he mainly talked about his cat. He was becoming target practice, and told Gene Okerlund that those cups (being thrown) are being aimed at him" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 14, 1998 _ Quote #241 "Misterio beat Villano V. With Mike Tenay not out there, Tony Schiavone and Lee Marshall didn't know if it was Villano IV or Villano V. As if the roman numeral on the trunks isn't a dead giveaway" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 14, 1998 _ Quote #242 "Tupelo show was a mess as they were stalling for Giant to be released from Prison. They had Silver King & Lizmark Jr. vs. Ciclope & Damian go 20:00, then Prince Auekea vs. Lodi go 20:00 and then did a 30:00 intermission. They wound up having Ciclope come out again without his mask as Elvis Gonzalez and do a job for Chris Adams" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 14, 1998 - Quote #243 "Hogan pinned Warrior. Warrior came out to 'Warrior Sucks' chants. He was acting like they were cheering him...Warrior came back with a series of mistimed punches. After more messed up looking spots, Hogan pulled this bag out of his trunks. It looked like drug paraphernalia but it was flash paper. Hogan was supposed to throw a fireball at Warrior, but after attempting to light the paper in slow-motion, he threw the fireball and nothing happened. The whole place groaned. Poor Warrior, who didn't have a clue to begin with, really didn't know what to do. Somehow the paper then ignited, nearly setting Hogan's hand on fire. He was supposed to throw a fireball and somehow Dave Penzer was supposed to put his jacket on Warrior, and somehow Warrior was supposed to make a comeback. Warrior improvised. Hogan sliced his forehead open and threw a messed up clothesline. Warrior came back with three mistimed clotheslines. Horace hit Warrior with a chair and Hogan got the pin. Horace poured lighter fluid on Warrior and they teased they were going to set him on fire. Hogan told Horace he'd passed the NWO initiation. -***** " - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: November 11, 1998 - Quote #245 "Alex Wright pinned Johnny Swinger. Swinger is Canadian and Wright is German. Crowd chanted USA" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: November 11, 1998 - Quote #247 "On the Time Magazine INTARNET balloting for Man of the Century, Ric Flair is now in third place trailing Jesus and Adolf Hitler. Raven is in ninth place" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: November 11, 1998 - Some others if anyone is interested.

[PeterHilton]

For a few minutes that's pretty LOL. But midway through its pathetic and by the end it's almost makes me mad. From top to bottom the WCW was just awful..especially once the ratings started their nosedive and it became obvious that just about everyone in any position of power was either a) grossly incompetent or b) just didn't care. Or both. Pulling the plug was a mercy killing.

[MrCanada]

Quote #245 "Alex Wright pinned Johnny Swinger. Swinger is Canadian and Wright is German. Crowd chanted USA" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: November 11, 1998 I read like 60% of those and #245 is the only one i found funny

[masterded]

Though the list was funny it also shows why I have such a hatred for The Wrestling Observer. Sure WCW was bad but how can one say that Nash is bad at interviews. If he is bad at interviews who in the hell is good at them. Also does any one else find them to be ****y elitist smarks? They kind of makes me sick.

[PeterHilton]

[QUOTE=masterded;243039]Though the list was funny it also shows why I have such a hatred for The Wrestling Observer. Sure WCW was bad but how can one say that Nash is bad at interviews. If he is bad at interviews who in the hell is good at them. Also does any one else find them to be ****y elitist smarks? They kind of makes me sick.[/QUOTE] Sort of agree. The Observer is an elitist smark news letter. But to be fair, Nitro was just so god damned terrible that I think most reviewers just stopped even trying to find any "highlights." And if you're talking specifically about that comment on Nash's color commentating: I saw that episode and it really did detract from what was going on. Couple funny comments, but a lot of stuff was just Nash putting himself over and trashing that night's show, which he had helped book.

[still71]

The Observer is crap.... but this stuff is freaking awesome. Yet further examples of what a giant steaming pile of ****e always WCW was. I was watching the Four Horsemen DVD today and listening to Flair, Anderson, etc. totally burrying WCW, and reading those quotes completes the day... too bad it's only wednesday and Impact isn't on... I could have had a steaming pile of crap marathon...

[masterded]

[QUOTE=PeterHilton;243042]Sort of agree. The Observer is an elitist smark news letter. But to be fair, Nitro was just so god damned terrible that I think most reviewers just stopped even trying to find any "highlights." And if you're talking specifically about that comment on Nash's color commentating: I saw that episode and it really did detract from what was going on. Couple funny comments, but a lot of stuff was just Nash putting himself over and trashing that night's show, which he had helped book.[/QUOTE] I was kind of talking about when they talked about his commentary. But, not about them saying he was bad at that, It was the fact they then listed stuff he was bad at and some how interviews was on it. It just seems kind of wrong. I mean Nash has to be one of the best interviews/promo men in the business, so if he is bad at them who is good? Also I agree WCW was pretty bad back then, though some of the quotes seem funny only do to poor writing on the writers part and not what he is describing.

[PeterHilton]

[QUOTE=masterded;243128]I was kind of talking about when they talked about his commentary. But, not about them saying he was bad at that, It was the fact they then listed stuff he was bad at and some how interviews was on it. It just seems kind of wrong. I mean Nash has to be one of the best interviews/promo men in the business, so if he is bad at them who is good?[/quote] Ah. Agreed. Mainly I just think that the Observer and its writers have become so consumed with showing how smart and sophisticated they are as wrestling fans that they just **** on anything that's not indy/hustle/puro. News are OK, but the columnists and reviews just read like a bunch of guys who stopped havign fun watching wrestling years ago. [quote] Also I agree WCW was pretty bad back then, though some of the quotes seem funny only do to poor writing on the writers part and not what he is describing.[/QUOTE] The poor writing is probably due to the storylines being so colvoluted that they were hard to recap. Like writing a review of an episode of Real World. What's going on is so stupid that no matter how you write it, it comes off as a mess.

[Nevermore]

[QUOTE=masterded;243128]I mean Nash has to be one of the best interviews/promo men in the business, so if he is bad at them who is good?[/QUOTE] Ooh, that's a little strong methinks. He has a natural delivery but his promos are rarely original/inciteful. Their are a lot of good promo guys in wrestling. What makes someone "one of the best" is a degree of originality. Thus, Nash will never quite be as good as guys like Foley, Jake Roberts, Raven or Shane Douglas. Quote The Raven Nevermore

[masterded]

[QUOTE=Nevermore;243132]Ooh, that's a little strong methinks. He has a natural delivery but his promos are rarely original/inciteful. Their are a lot of good promo guys in wrestling. What makes someone "one of the best" is a degree of originality. Thus, Nash will never quite be as good as guys like Foley, Jake Roberts, Raven or Shane Douglas. Quote The Raven Nevermore[/QUOTE] Jake Roberts is a raving lunatic always has and always will be. Sure at one time Foley was a great promo man but for the last 7 years his promos are nothing but jokes. Douglas and Raven also have to be the 2 most overrated people ever when it comes to promos. They are very repetitive and Douglas lacks charisma. See that is what I will say his big thing over all of them is he is overflowing with charisma. Now you want to talk about the bests none of them stack up to the Flair, Austin, The Rock, The Body and Mr. Perfect. See this is what I love about wrestling 2 people watch the same thing and yet come away with 2 totally different opinions. You see the 4 you named as great promo people all time greats even. I see them as good at best, highly overrated. You see Nash’s promos as more average and I see him as possibly one of the most charismatic ever. You see the 4 as originals I see them as common. You see Nash as unoriginal I see him as hugely versatile. The best part is there is no way to prove any one right or wrong they are opinions where fact can not be brought in. Because in wrestling what is fact. You hear people talk about what good wrestling is and isn’t. Then they try and defined wrestling and what true pro wrestling is yet it looks nothing like it was when it started. One could argue Hogan is a better wrestler then Bret sure most would disagree (including me) but it doesn’t mean they’re wrong. Hogan is a big muscular man who pushes people around. Like the strongman wrestlers of the old circus days. Hogan is more of a pro wrestler then Bret one could say. Wow I went off track my point is that the best part about wrestling is that a 100 people could watch a show and come away with 100 different opinions.

[masterded]

[QUOTE=PeterHilton;243131]Ah. Agreed. Mainly I just think that the Observer and its writers have become so consumed with showing how smart and sophisticated they are as wrestling fans that they just **** on anything that's not indy/hustle/puro. News are OK, but the columnists and reviews just read like a bunch of guys who stopped havign fun watching wrestling years ago. The poor writing is probably due to the storylines being so colvoluted that they were hard to recap. Like writing a review of an episode of Real World. What's going on is so stupid that no matter how you write it, it comes off as a mess.[/QUOTE] Yes that is my biggest problem with so many so called wrestling fans today they take all the joy out of watching and just bitch about how bad it is. If it is that bad stop watching it that is what a smart person would do. If you truly want something to become better in the wrestling world the best thing you could do is not watch. They will either die or change or enough people will like it and you just don’t matter. But, instead like morons they watch. Also another thing I hate is how they **** over anything that is lets say mainstream. Like if you didn’t have to spend money on DVD’s to watch it then it’s crap. I do agree that trying to do a write-up on a confusing show would be hard, but there are still time where stuff you read comes across odd and with about 5 seconds of thought your head can come up with a better wording. Though my writing sucks so I shouldn’t be saying anything.

[Nevermore]

[QUOTE=masterded;243159]Wow I went off track my point is that the best part about wrestling is that a 100 people could watch a show and come away with 100 different opinions.[/QUOTE] I think you're absolutely right on that. However, the difference in opinion here stems from the fact that you are including charisma as a means of judging a promo (which is fairplay) and I'm not. To me, a promo is about the actual semantics and the delivery; the "X-factor" of charisma is something very different in my mind. For instance, RVD is one of the most charismatic people in the history of wrestling and I mark out for him hugely but even I admit that he can't cut a promo to save his life (that's the only reason he didn't become the next Shawn Michaels I reckon). Austin is similar in my view. He's charismatic as hell but I don't think his promos are anything special. They seem to generally consist of: [LIST=1] [*]Catchphrase [*]A vague indication of how good he is [*]Another catchphrase [*]A somewhat explicit statement regarding the issue at hand [*]Finish off with another catchphrase and some gesturing [/LIST] If that's what floats your boat then fine. However, guys like him and the Rock could never feature highly on my list. The whole "SpEnt" style of promo is just boring and predictable to me. Quote The Raven Nevermore

[masterded]

[QUOTE=Nevermore;243162]I think you're absolutely right on that. However, the difference in opinion here stems from the fact that you are including charisma as a means of judging a promo (which is fairplay) and I'm not. To me, a promo is about the actual semantics and the delivery; the "X-factor" of charisma is something very different in my mind. For instance, RVD is one of the most charismatic people in the history of wrestling and I mark out for him hugely but even I admit that he can't cut a promo to save his life (that's the only reason he didn't become the next Shawn Michaels I reckon). Austin is similar in my view. He's charismatic as hell but I don't think his promos are anything special. They seem to generally consist of: [LIST=1] [*]Catchphrase [*]A vague indication of how good he is [*]Another catchphrase [*]A somewhat explicit statement regarding the issue at hand [*]Finish off with another catchphrase and some gesturing [/LIST] If that's what floats your boat then fine. However, guys like him and the Rock could never feature highly on my list. The whole "SpEnt" style of promo is just boring and predictable to me. Quote The Raven Nevermore[/QUOTE] See this is the great part that is how I feel about the people you listed not counting Jake. Jake, Jake, Jake, you never know what the man is going to say and what the hell he was trying to say. Though I do have a quick question have you seen any of Nash’s TNA promo work? It may be some of the funniest stuff in the last couple of years in wrestling. Like I said though it is all just opinions.

[PeterHilton]

I would say that a good promo is one that makes me want to watch the match/segments/interview that said worker is promoting. Even if its nothing but cheesy boasting and catchphrases, if I want to tune in or buy the PPV or whatever after the guy is done talking, he did his job. That's about it.

[masterded]

[QUOTE=PeterHilton;243167]I would say that a good promo is one that makes me want to watch the match/segments/interview that said worker is promoting. Even if its nothing but cheesy boasting and catchphrases, if I want to tune in or buy the PPV or whatever after the guy is done talking, he did his job. That's about it.[/QUOTE] You sir are 100% right.

[Nevermore]

[QUOTE=PeterHilton;243167]I would say that a good promo is one that makes me want to watch the match/segments/interview that said worker is promoting. Even if its nothing but cheesy boasting and catchphrases, if I want to tune in or buy the PPV or whatever after the guy is done talking, he did his job. That's about it.[/QUOTE] Absolutely and, again, it comes down to the whole opinion thing. I was merely citing the fact that the Sports Entertainment/WWE style promo doesn't achieve those goals in regard to my viewing. In fairness, mastered, I've seen very little of Nash in TNA. I'll dig some out on youtube. Quote The Raven Nevermore

[PeterHilton]

[QUOTE=Nevermore;243175]Absolutely and, again, it comes down to the whole opinion thing. I was merely citing the fact that the Sports Entertainment/WWE style promo doesn't achieve those goals in regard to my viewing. [/QUOTE] That's cool. I like promos across the board. From the slower built Foley/Funk/Roberts promos to the hype the crowd stuff from guys like Rocky/SCSA/Y2J. Hell...I even like Scott Steiner's Big Poppa Pump stuff, so I know my opinion isn't shared by everyone. :p