thedraem41 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 I wanted to start the game off with the lowest reputation for a booker and unemployed and attempt to get a job. It's been two years and other candidates keep beating me out.(The promotions have been different sizes). It's been two years, has anyone else found it hard getting promotions to take a shot on you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWF2K9 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 yea I was trying to get a Job for 4 years before I gave up and made it a sim game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedraem41 Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 I wish you were allowed to start a promotion up at any reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWF2K9 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="thedraem41" data-cite="thedraem41" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wish you were allowed to start a promotion up at any reputation.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree, I mean who would actually just get born and be given a shiny sticker that allows you to do so</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 The point is that you need a solid reputation to get financial backing. People would rather throw money at Heyman then Russo... at least in a world that makes sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammartino Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 That's not exactley true... if I want to start a promotion with 0% popularity, and nothing more than $ 1,000 why I can't?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sammartino" data-cite="Sammartino" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's not exactley true... if I want to start a promotion with 0% popularity, and nothing more than $ 1,000 why I can't??</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Because you are playing a character with no reputation at all trying a business venture with no cash in a game with fixed rules. Setting up a new promotion resets your rep to 0, and that also acts as a block to being able to set up a future promotion. It's like trying to play poker... with no cards... </p><p> </p><p> Likewise, you shouldn't start a game with 0 reputation and unemployed as no-one will be stupid enough to take a risk on someone with no reputation once the gameworld has begun. Either start with a little reputation OR start employed somewhere because at Lowest then every other potential booker is already ahead of you, meaning you'll never get a job.</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: Just to be clear, this is aimed at everyone in this thread, not 1 in particular. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungNoble Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 A little off-topic, if I build up my rep, and start my own promotion, I know that my rep drops back to 0. If I get this new fed off the ground and get my rep back up, can I resign and start another new fed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="YoungNoble" data-cite="YoungNoble" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A little off-topic, if I build up my rep, and start my own promotion, I know that my rep drops back to 0. If I get this new fed off the ground and get my rep back up, can I resign and start another new fed?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You can't resign from a promotion you own, but your reputation will build up again so that if your promotion dies you will still have a shot at getting a job. There is also a block in place that means you can't start a nother promotion until 5 years after your opened your original one. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="derek_b" data-cite="derek_b" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You can't resign from a promotion you own, but your reputation will build up again so that if your promotion dies you will still have a shot at getting a job. There is also a block in place that means you can't start a nother promotion until 5 years after your opened your original one. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> actually you can resign from a promotion you own, ive done it quite a few times. maybe you arent supposed to be able to but i know that you can.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobe1724 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="derek_b" data-cite="derek_b" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Because you are playing a character with no reputation at all trying a business venture with no cash in a game with fixed rules. Setting up a new promotion resets your rep to 0, and that also acts as a block to being able to set up a future promotion. It's like trying to play poker... with no cards... <p> </p><p> Likewise, you shouldn't start a game with 0 reputation and unemployed as no-one will be stupid enough to take a risk on someone with no reputation once the gameworld has begun. Either start with a little reputation OR start employed somewhere because at Lowest then every other potential booker is already ahead of you, meaning you'll never get a job.</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: Just to be clear, this is aimed at everyone in this thread, not 1 in particular. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I disagree with the game functioning this way. I think in straight edge mode rather than getting to select a promotion size and starting cash that your reputation and popularity should determine your promotions starting size. You should also get a salary as a user character, and can either get financial backers (the amount of money given will be determined by your reputation) or fund it with your compiled salary minus expenses... you know what this should be in suggestions...)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Similar things have been brought up many times before... but adding a new variable for a worker's funds isn't as easy as people think it is. It'd take a running total, living expenses and more for it to be worth something... and since that isn't in the game now it'd likely mean anyone playing TEW would have to start a new game so that the variables could be taken into account. Don't bother suggesting it, it's been done millions of times. Also.. didn't realise an owner could quit their own promotion. Wonder when that was changed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWF2K9 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="derek_b" data-cite="derek_b" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Similar things have been brought up many times before... but adding a new variable for a worker's funds isn't as easy as people think it is. It'd take a running total, living expenses and more for it to be worth something... and since that isn't in the game now it'd likely mean anyone playing TEW would have to start a new game so that the variables could be taken into account.<p> </p><p> Don't bother suggesting it, it's been done millions of times.</p><p> </p><p> Also.. didn't realise an owner could quit their own promotion. Wonder when that was changed...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> you can only quit after your promotion has been active 5 years.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobe1724 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="derek_b" data-cite="derek_b" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Similar things have been brought up many times before... but adding a new variable for a worker's funds isn't as easy as people think it is. It'd take a running total, living expenses and more for it to be worth something... and since that isn't in the game now it'd likely mean anyone playing TEW would have to start a new game so that the variables could be taken into account.<p> </p><p> Don't bother suggesting it, it's been done millions of times.</p><p> </p><p> Also.. didn't realise an owner could quit their own promotion. Wonder when that was changed...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't mean for TEW 2008. I'm thinking 2009... ^_^</p><p> </p><p> That said, I also understand how much that could potentially slow down load times if not coded for properly. I'm learning Ruby now and so have a firmer grasp of programming that I have in the past. But I think Adam could manage. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kobe1724" data-cite="Kobe1724" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't mean for TEW 2008. I'm thinking 2009... ^_^<p> </p><p> That said, I also understand how much that could potentially slow down load times if not coded for properly. I'm learning Ruby now and so have a firmer grasp of programming that I have in the past. But I think Adam could manage. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I get what you mean... it's just that it's been brought up so many times in pretty much the exact way you posted it that it really wasn't worth writing out and posting. I was trying to save you the effort. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedraem41 Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="derek_b" data-cite="derek_b" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Because you are playing a character with no reputation at all trying a business venture with no cash in a game with fixed rules. Setting up a new promotion resets your rep to 0, and that also acts as a block to being able to set up a future promotion. It's like trying to play poker... with no cards... <p> </p><p> Likewise, you shouldn't start a game with 0 reputation and unemployed as no-one will be stupid enough to take a risk on someone with no reputation once the gameworld has begun. Either start with a little reputation OR start employed somewhere because at Lowest then every other potential booker is already ahead of you, meaning you'll never get a job.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I disagree with this, I think there should be a way you could get reputation without being the head guy. It makes it almost impossible to start from nothing and make yourself something.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedew Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="thedraem41" data-cite="thedraem41" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I disagree with this, I think there should be a way you could get reputation without being the head guy.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> "Total Extreme Ocassional Idea Pitcher 2008" doesn't like too much fun though...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="thedraem41" data-cite="thedraem41" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I disagree with this, I think there should be a way you could get reputation without being the head guy. It makes it almost impossible to start from nothing and make yourself something.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll put it to you differently... if you have no reputation within the wrestling industry and no experience, you won't have any contacts within the industry. No contacts means no-one to work for you, which means you can't have any shows.</p><p> </p><p> Reputation isn't just a measure of being able to get investors, it's a means of being able to attract people to work for you and of name value for your promotion.</p><p> </p><p> If you start with nothing then you have no way to expand, which is why you should either begin a game with some reputation in order to help you get a job OR start with a job in order to help you get some reputation.</p><p> </p><p> As for a means of gaining reputation when beginning from nothing, there have been several ideas lobbied around (by me included) for being able to book indy shows within a certain budget. It might work, it might not... but regardless, it'll be a stop gap to gain you repuatation which is what you will ultimately need no matter what as nobodies can't do anything without the connections to make that happen.</p><p> </p><p> If you want to succeed from literally nothing, start a game with a high rep and set up a new promotion... change it to have 0 everything and then make your way from there.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewanite Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <p>That's just silly. Rags to riches type situations are what games like these are all about. If you can't start at the bottom and work up then that's half the fun gone.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> OP, are you using the default game data or a scenario? Scenarios are known to have too many potential bookers, making it almost impossible to get a job.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedew Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ewanite" data-cite="ewanite" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's just silly. Rags to riches type situations are what games like these are all about. If you can't start at the bottom and work up then that's half the fun gone.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You can, just set things up like that pre-game.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ewanite" data-cite="ewanite" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22735" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's just silly. Rags to riches type situations are what games like these are all about. If you can't start at the bottom and work up then that's half the fun gone.<p> </p><p> </p><p> OP, are you using the default game data or a scenario? Scenarios are known to have too many potential bookers, making it almost impossible to get a job.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you have 0% rep, even the default data has tons of bookers they'll pick over you.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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