Phantom Stranger Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 He's Sam Keith, he can have any program he wants.. It's the timings, is all. Last January is a bit early for him to have been booted out the SWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 It's the timings, is all. Last January is a bit early for him to have been booted out the SWF. I'm aware, that's fixed. It was supposed to be "this" January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Stranger Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I'm aware, that's fixed. It was supposed to be "this" January. OK, cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I want to point out that Chance Fortune is in the wrong promotion. He's better suited for the SWF than the TCW. It's a bit surprising to me that Robert Oxford brought him, despite not being exactly Robert Oxford's type. Oh yeah, I just want to point out that I'm not so shocked about the match grade between Brent Hill and Wolf Hawkins. When you have "Performance = Popularity", the quality of matches bound to boost the grade higher than their popularity might suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 I want to point out that Chance Fortune is in the wrong promotion. He's better suited for the SWF than the TCW. It's a bit surprising to me that Robert Oxford brought him, despite not being exactly Robert Oxford's type. I assume he was originally brought in under the guidelines that he would eventually improve as a high flier, from working with better high fliers in the All-Action Division. This, of course, has yet to come pass, as of the 2008 startdate..honestly, the biggest use I've had for him so far is giving my developmental company something of a name. It'll be a while before he gets the call up. I thought the same before of Giant Tana. Really, the guy is a pretty good talent - C in Rumble, which is above average, and B in Entertainment, which means he's a main event level speaker. If it weren't for the performance and physical skills, he'd arguably be just as good as Ricky Dale Johnson, as far as the skills you see when you click their names go. He's in a similar situation to Danny Fonzarelli - it's not that they aren't talented, they're just horrible fits for my vision of TCW..they probably would be better off in SWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Well, I think plucked Chance Fortune a bit too early - they saw a lot of the good, but not so much of the not so good. He's a decent in-ring-wise, but not really where he should be at 28 - he's close, but not quite there. He's Performance and Entertainment Skills are pretty good, which is why he could make a good fit for the SWF. As a matter of fact, Sammy Bach doesn't fit so well either, but at least Bach vs. Powell would go over better in TCW than it will in SWF (that's for sure). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 As a matter of fact, Sammy Bach doesn't fit so well either, but at least Bach vs. Powell would go over better in TCW than it will in SWF (that's for sure). Say that again? Bach's a fine fit for TCW. He could have great matches with the likes of Wolf Hawkins, and Tommy Cornell. And he's a decent level brawler and technician, so with his performance skills, he could put on pretty good matches with just about anybody. (See: his B rated matches with Koshiro Ino, who is not at all a high flier.) He's also got really good entertainment skills, which is why so many are quick to get Killer off of him, and onto someone who actually needs a manager. I don't have a huge roster full of high fliers, but that doesn't mean he's a bad fit for the company. I mean, WWE doesn't have a slew of great technical wrestlers, but Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit fit in pretty well, didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Kurt Angle? I completely agree. Chris Benoit? No. I loved both Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle. But Benoit and the WWE never quite fit for each other. Both attempted to adjusted to each other's styles, but it was quite clear to me (even though I thought Benoit was one of the greatest wrestlers of all time), that he didn't fit. As for Sammy Bach, he works well enough in TCW, but I always felt he could make it bigger in SWF, though. But you didn't see to disagree about the Powell vs. Bach part not doing well in SWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Kurt Angle? I completely agree. Chris Benoit? No. I loved both Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle. But Benoit and the WWE never quite fit for each other. Both attempted to adjusted to each other's styles, but it was quite clear to me (even though I thought Benoit was one of the greatest wrestlers of all time), that he didn't fit. As for Sammy Bach, he works well enough in TCW, but I always felt he could make it bigger in SWF, though. But you didn't see to disagree about the Powell vs. Bach part not doing well in SWF. Unfitting, in what sense? He was almost always pushed as a pretty big threat. (IC Champ within his first four months, feuding with Steve Austin within a year) The crowd was typically heavily behind/against him for his entire run there, he had 12 title reigns with the company, an RR win..someone who doesn't fit with the company, by my definition, is somebody whose style ends up keeping him from getting over..and by that defination, that's not something Benoit had a problem with. As for Powell/Bach in SWF..for some reason, I can't see Powell doing that great in SWF. Would make a fine Shooting Star champ, but I couldn't really see him getting past that. Whereas in my TCW game, I could see him being a credible International Title contender, by the time the year's done, maybe even more then that. (Without giving much away, I'll say that the Powell/Bach feud is likely to last a while..should give both men a good boost.) I wouldn't really know, until I saw it tested, however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Although I would say Benoit, I wouldn't say Benoit's style got over. I think he got over DESPITE his style, not BECAUSE of it. Benoit was just that damn good. That's why he got over. It doesn't change the fact that his style didn't fit. And what was unfitting? Well, he didn't qute have the look they wanted. He wasn't all that good on the mic. His style of wrestling was more technical, and WWE's style was more brawling. (By the way, I have suspicions that WWE thought this as well, because WWE said DDP's wrestling style didn't fit the WWE style. Now THAT'S baffling). As for Powell being a Shooting Star Champ, I can think of a few better options that the SWF can choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 <p></p><div style="text-align:center;"><span>http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/Zeel1/TCWUnderground.png</span></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23639" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="font-size:8px;">March 1st, 2008</span><p><span style="font-size:8px;"> Gregory McKay</span></p><p> </p><p> Hello, Total Wrestling fans, I'm Gregory McKay, your favorite TCW Total Web Anaylst, and we've got some big news tonight, as this Thursday, exclusively on the Pop! Network, we are debuting a new Television Show! And as you may have guessed, this show has been titled, TCW: Underground! For the last few months, many of TCW's lesser known wrestlers have been vieing for this kind of show - while TCW has built many new big stars in this business, it has to be said that some people have gotten more chances to shine than others! Many wrestlers on our roster have been overlooked, and are rightfully quite frustrated! And so, the idea behind TCW Underground, is that it's everyone's game - everyone on the TCW roster has a chance to make their presence known, everyone will get a chance to compete! So if you're looking for the bright young hopefuls of tommarrow, such as Freddy Huggins, the new Explosive Disorder Tag Team, or the incredibly impressive Antonio Marquez, or if you're looking for looking for veteran wrestlers have always been skipped over for one reason or another, such as Clark Alexander, then look no further, then TCW Underground! Many people who have not gotten the chances they deserve, shall get their shots at retribution, starting this Thursday!</p><p> </p><p> It's also beleived that tryout matches for new wrestlers will be seen on TCW Underground - and while the wrestlers who get that shot may not be the biggest names, one has to think there is not a single more motivating factor out there, then the thought of fighting for a TCW Contract! By that notion, one could easily say that dreams could very well be realized on this show! </p><p> </p><p> Everyone here at TCW has big expectations for this new addition to the TCW schedual, so be sure to check it out - this Thursday, 7:30 Eastern Standard time, only on the Pop! Network!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <span style="font-size:8px;">[ooc]So yeah, I now have a B show. This could end up being a very well-liked show. I've seen B shows become quite popular in diaries in the past, as they tend to have more skilled workers getting their due then on the main shows. And plus, the write-ups will be no-where near as long winded. Same layout and general style, but the matches will be far more summed up. Although I may give more detail to the Main Events..[/ooc]</span></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Stranger Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Interesting! (Not least because... the Pop! Network? Did you expand Total Wrestling onto it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Phantom Stranger" data-cite="Phantom Stranger" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23639" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Interesting! (Not least because... the Pop! Network? Did you expand Total Wrestling onto it?)</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nope..why? Should I have?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Stranger Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zeel1" data-cite="Zeel1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23639" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nope..why? Should I have?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You can have B-shows on a different network now?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Phantom Stranger" data-cite="Phantom Stranger" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23639" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You can have B-shows on a different network now?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I wasn't aware there was ever a limitation on that...but yeah, you can definately do it in TEW 08.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Stranger Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zeel1" data-cite="Zeel1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23639" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wasn't aware there was ever a limitation on that...but yeah, you can definately do it in TEW 08.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, they're new as of 08, but last I checked you needed an A-show on the same channel. That's handy, though.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Phantom Stranger" data-cite="Phantom Stranger" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23639" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, they're new as of 08, but last I checked you needed an A-show on the same channel. That's handy, though.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm surprised as well. I thought Networks only accepted B-Shows if they already had a show with you. </p><p> </p><p> Must be because it's a smaller network, then.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23639" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm surprised as well. I thought Networks only accepted B-Shows if they already had a show with you. <p> </p><p> Must be because it's a smaller network, then.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Maybe so. I aimed for a slightly smaller network, as ones that where the same size as GNN Total Sports where only interested in A shows. But when I contacted them, I didn't get any guff from GNN Total Sports either..you sure it's not the "Company is exclusive to this network" clause you guys are thinking of?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Stranger Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zeel1" data-cite="Zeel1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23639" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maybe so. I aimed for a slightly smaller network, as ones that where the same size as GNN Total Sports where only interested in A shows. But when I contacted them, I didn't get any guff from GNN Total Sports either..</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Pretty sure. On t'other hand, it's cool to know that's no longer the case.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I agree with Phantom Stranger. That makes me wonder: What's the TV deal like for your new show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23639" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree with Phantom Stranger. That makes me wonder: What's the TV deal like for your new show?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> 1 Hour, in the Afternoon, on Thursday - costs 100% split to the Promotion, Revenue 100% split to the Network, with 24 Episodes to start with.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> ..now that I look it over, it's not the sweetest deal in the world.. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> But I don't suppose I would make that much money with the B show anyway..</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zeel1" data-cite="Zeel1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23639" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>1 Hour, in the Afternoon, on Thursday - costs 100% split to the Promotion, Revenue 100% split to the Network, with 24 Episodes to start with.<p> </p><p> </p><p> ..now that I look it over, it's not the sweetest deal in the world.. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> But I don't suppose I would make that much money with the B show anyway..</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> *Not the Sweetest deal?* You got owned! Damn you Pop Network! <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> The least they could have given you was 10% of the revenue, and taken more of the costs.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23639" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>*Not the Sweetest deal?* You got owned! Damn you Pop Network! <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It was part of me wearing them down, as far as getting the show was concerned. They didn't want a B show at first either, but as I learned while negotiating with certain wrestlers who demanded a title run, that I was not at all planning on giving them, (Acid) sometimes it's just a matter of waiting it out. I let their patience run down a bit, before they eventually just conceeded to the B show.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Damn, I better try that out. By the way, is the B-Show during Prime Time or the Evening? (I would consider 7 Prime Time, by the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 March 1st, 2008 Gregory McKay Hello, Total Wrestling fans! We are just a day removed from The War To Settle The Score! We saw many surprises at the event - Teddy Powell accidentally kicking Karen Killer, Brent Hill unseating Wolf Hawkins of the International Championship, Tyson Baine become the first man to ever kick out of the Rough Ride - among others! And heading into tomarrow's Total Wrestling broadcast, we look to capitilize on our momentum with a huge show, that shall be headlined by none other then Tommy Cornell and Ricky Dale Johnson! That's right folks, you heard me right - Tommy Cornell, the TCW World Heavyweight Champion, taking on his arch rival, Ricky Dale Johnson! And it's on free TV! What other company would give you fans a match like that for free?! You know we love you! And while this is a non-title match, one has to think that a victory over Tommy Cornell would send the fan favorite Ricky Dale Johnson soaring into a World Heavyweight Title match! Folks, to say this match is heated, is to say that the earth is large! These two have been gunning at each other for years now! And the reaction for this match should be electric - Tommy Cornell, the man most Total Wrestling fans despise more then any other human being, against Ricky Dale Johnson, perhaps the most beloved man on the entire TCW Roster! Title or no title, this is going to be a garaunteed match for the ages! Speaking of titles, we also have a title match set for tommarow - "The Evil Prince" Sammy Bach, coming off an impressive win, and brutal attack, over Teddy Powell, shall be facing the man who's challenged he barely turned away, just five weeks ago - the iconic Acid! And the All-Action Championship will be on the line! Acid's starting month in TCW has been a rather up and down one - two losses to start him off, then a victory, then a loss, then another victory..but he's been impressive in every single one of his matches so far, and, coming off a good win over Samual Cannon, is considered a huge threat to Sammy Bach's title! If you recall, when Acid challenged Sammy Bach at Malice In Wonderland, (R.I.P) he was actually to kick out of the Adrenaline Rush, and it took a second one to put him away! Acid didn't take much time in proving to Bach that beating him is no walk in the park, so look for another great match, when these two collide for the second time! And as we have had it in recent weeks, we've got yet another installment of the Laying Down The Law Challenge! Last night, Texas Pete was the one who answered the call, and he proceeded to have perhaps the best match of his young career so far! He shut up quite a few of his critics with his performance against Rick Law, who so many think of as a future TCW World Heavyweight Champion! Who knows who will accept the challenge tomarrow night? Folks, we've learned a new fact about this challenge - a week before the Where Angels Fear To Tread event, in April, comes around, Law will be discontinuing the challenge! His reasons for this are because that month is considered by many to be the start of "Total Mayhem Season", and Law has surmised that the challenge will by then not qaulify as an instant addition to the card! Wanting to focus away from the challenge, he has thusly announced that it will end if no-one can defeat him before then! Rick Law has not lost a single match since the beggining of 2008, and with the challenge heating up, one has to wonder if anyone can end the winning streak he's on! Speaking of which, Rick Law won't be the only man to have an unannounced opponent this week - Eric Tyler also has a mystery opponent! Coming off a rather shady victory over Genghis Rahn last night, Eric Tyler is bringing in a former rival of his, one that he promises to be almost as old school as he is! This could be any number of veteran wrestlers - God knows Tyler's wrestled just about everybody! And since this will apparantly be a rematch, I suppose nows as good a time as any to segue into the rematch between the fiery young rookie, Antonio Marquez and the now former International Champion, Wolf Hawkins! Hawkins did not have much respect for Marquez before his first match with him a couple weeks ago, going as far as calling him a "Champagne Flavored Broom", that he was to carry to a great match! But while the match did turn out to be a stellar contest, Marquez more then held his own against the then-International Champion! Can Marquez pull the upset tomarrow night? And we have another great oppurtunity for a segue here, as we have yet another rematch tomarrow night - this one in particular being the TCW Tag Team Titles No.1 Contender's Match! For it will pit The New Wave, against The Tag Team Specialists! The veteran Specialists have been feuding with The New Wave for a while now, and they have screwed them over multiple times, on their road to their TCW Tag Team Title shot last night! Just last week, Joel Bryant feigned an injury, to not only make Scout feel remorseful, but to get The New Wave to take their gaurd down - and for whatever explicable reason, The Tag Team Specialists proceeded to assault The New Wave in the middle of the ring! This could end up being a very bad week for the tenured duo - they lost their shot at the Tag Team Titles at The War To Settle The Score, and they're now going to be wrestling a highly motivated, and angered, New Wave, a team that many consider to be THE GREATEST TAG TEAM IN THE WORLD TODAY! That's TCW Total Wrestling, tomarrow night, only on GNN Total Sports! Be there! Quick Card TCW Tag Team Championships No.1 Contender's Match: The New Wave vs. The Tag Team Specialists TCW All-Action Championship: "The Evil Prince" Sammy Bach © vs. Acid "The Wonder" Eric Tyler vs. ??? Laying Down The Law Challenge: "The Total Officer" Rick Law vs. ??? "The Chosen One" Wolf Hawkins vs. "The Mexican Machine Gun" Antonio Marquez "Southern Justice" Ricky Dale Johnson vs. The TCW World Heavyweight Champion, "Rough Justice" Tommy Cornell (Non-Title) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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