The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Blackman]

Oh it'll work in the smark-infested NXT, which is probably where they're headed at first. I also don't see it working on RAW, but SD! might be a good home eventually if they don't play the broken thing up too much.

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh it'll work in the smark-infested NXT, which is probably where they're headed at first. I also don't see it working on RAW, but SD! might be a good home eventually if they don't play the broken thing up too much.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Honestly I would love to see the promos between Bray and Matt....that story writes itself.</p>

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mitsukaikira" data-cite="mitsukaikira" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Because he's a member of our little community and it's disheartening and saddening to see one of "ours" do this.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> To be fair, it's not shocking in the slightest. He spewed hate and obscenities on the board quite often and when he received moderator warnings he'd kick up a storm about how unfair the site being PG is. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>

[K-Nection]

To be fair, it's not shocking in the slightest. He spewed hate and obscenities on the board quite often and when he received moderator warnings he'd kick up a storm about how unfair the site being PG is.

 

I can see why you want to keep the site PG....if it wasn't it would scare away your advertisers that are displaying ads on here.

[mitsukaikira]

To be fair, it's not shocking in the slightest. He spewed hate and obscenities on the board quite often and when he received moderator warnings he'd kick up a storm about how unfair the site being PG is.

 

Disheartening and saddening; not shocking considering the source.

[Jaysin]

Anyways, on the actual topic of WWE.

 

My thoughts going into WrestleMania so far

 

Bray Wyatt© vs Randy Orton- More than likely going to be a solid, but not all that exciting of a match. Orton is a pretty decent in ring general despite his annoying mannerisms and being devoid of charisma. I expect Harper interference. If the Broken Hardy Family hadn't just won the ROH tag titles, I'd expect them to debut here honestly, but can't see that happening now unless they drop the belts at Supercard of Honor.

 

Goldberg© vs Lesnar- The main event of a more than likely overly long show isn't going past five minutes tops. Ridiculous. My only hope is that Lesnar wins and then Joe starts chasing Lesnar.

 

Jericho© vs Owens- Will probably be the match of the night. Jericho and Owens are fantastic and work well together. Can't say enough about how excited I am for this one.

 

Bayley© vs Charlotte vs Sasha- Would have preferred if Charlotte was still champion here leading to Bayley winning the belt for the first time at Mania, but whatever. Three talented women and the only match announced so far that could rival Owens/Jericho as best match of the night.

 

Gallows & Anderson vs Enzo/Cass or Cesaro/Sheamus- Don't care about this despite me being a huge fan of everyone except Sheamus. Haven't been given a reason to care sadly.

 

Alexa Bliss© vs All Smackdown women- Could be fun for a car wreck style match.

 

Andre the Giant Battle Royal- Hard to form any thoughts when Mojo and Apollo are the only two announced so far.

 

I would have preferred to see AJ Styles be champion going into the show, but at least he'll be on the show. He's easily the best performer WWE has right now. Can't wait to see what he does.

[milamber]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyways, on the actual topic of WWE.<p> </p><p> My thoughts going into WrestleMania so far</p><p> </p><p> Bray Wyatt© vs Randy Orton- More than likely going to be a solid, but not all that exciting of a match. Orton is a pretty decent in ring general despite his annoying mannerisms and being devoid of charisma. I expect Harper interference. If the Broken Hardy Family hadn't just won the ROH tag titles, I'd expect them to debut here honestly, but can't see that happening now unless they drop the belts at Supercard of Honor.</p><p> </p><p> Goldberg© vs Lesnar- The main event of a more than likely overly long show isn't going past five minutes tops. Ridiculous. My only hope is that Lesnar wins and then Joe starts chasing Lesnar. </p><p> </p><p> Jericho© vs Owens- Will probably be the match of the night. Jericho and Owens are fantastic and work well together. Can't say enough about how excited I am for this one.</p><p> </p><p> Bayley© vs Charlotte vs Sasha- Would have preferred if Charlotte was still champion here leading to Bayley winning the belt for the first time at Mania, but whatever. Three talented women and the only match announced so far that could rival Owens/Jericho as best match of the night.</p><p> </p><p> Gallows & Anderson vs Enzo/Cass or Cesaro/Sheamus- Don't care about this despite me being a huge fan of everyone except Sheamus. Haven't been given a reason to care sadly.</p><p> </p><p> Alexa Bliss© vs All Smackdown women- Could be fun for a car wreck style match. </p><p> </p><p> Andre the Giant Battle Royal- Hard to form any thoughts when Mojo and Apollo are the only two announced so far.</p><p> </p><p> I would have preferred to see AJ Styles be champion going into the show, but at least he'll be on the show. He's easily the best performer WWE has right now. Can't wait to see what he does.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Cruiserweight Division buried LOL. Although it's not official yet, Neville vs Aries has the potential to be MOTN. Although it wouldn't surprise me if Vince does a multi-man match on the Kickoff Show instead.</p>

[The Dynamite Sid]

<p>With Braun and Finn really the only 2 stars of note not yet paired off are we heading for a WrestleMania match between the two? A david and goliath Monster vs Demon match is intriguing if nowt else</p><p> </p><p>

The only other guys on similar footing that I can think of are Joe and Sami but we've already seen that match as well as Joe vs Finn and Sami vs Braun.</p><p> </p><p>

A tag comprised of the 4 could be very cool</p>

[foolinc]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Dynamite Sid" data-cite="The Dynamite Sid" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>With Braun and Finn really the only 2 stars of note not yet paired off are we heading for a WrestleMania match between the two? A david and goliath Monster vs Demon match is intriguing if nowt else<p> </p><p> The only other guys on similar footing that I can think of are Joe and Sami but we've already seen that match as well as Joe vs Finn and Sami vs Braun.</p><p> </p><p> A tag comprised of the 4 could be very cool</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'd just put Braun in the Andre battle royale and have Finn come back the RAW after Mania.</p>

[Blackman]

There's a couple of uniques at Mania which will make it memorable somehow, but the women's scene just seems stale. Will there be the fabled Sasha turn they are slightly teasing? I hope so, at it'll probably be a dull affair otherwise. I hope Emma is paired again with Dana and will debut at the post-Mania show. The quality of the matches is great (though I haven't watched in weeks) but - and I can't believe I'm saying this - it's getting repetitive. They've already played the speciality matches cards. Now it's the triple threat match (or fatal 4). After that: what's left?

 

Probably most looking forward to Owens vs Y2J. If both put their soul into it, it'll be an awesome match for sure.

[The Dynamite Sid]

As with last year's WrestleMania I'm most looking forward to NXT: TakeOver and the Hall Of Fame. The card itself is the least interesting WrestleMania I've ever seen, bar 27 (the only Mania I've never watched)

 

I'm looking forward to Neville/Aries I guess, provided they get time. And Seth will probably do the impossible and get a good match out of Triple H. But really that's such a waste of one of the most talented guys on the roster, just because Hunter doesn't realise he should have hung it up long ago

[Teh_Showtime]

Is NXT actually going to be much better though? Honestly the show has been boring for months, and no program there feels like something that warrants a big Takeover match either

[The Dynamite Sid]

Is NXT actually going to be much better though? Honestly the show has been boring for months, and no program there feels like something that warrants a big Takeover match either

 

I still enjoy NXT. It's an easy watch. Even when it isn't great it doesn't feel like a chore. And TakeOver might not be a classic but it'll beat the arse off of WrestleMania

 

I'm much more excited for Asuka vs Ember Moon and Bobby Roode vs Nakamura than anything the main show is gonna serve up. Also the Tag Team triple threat they seem to be building towards should be dynamite.

 

Plus it will have the benefit of not being 10 hours long

[Hive]

And Seth will probably do the impossible and get a good match out of Triple H. But really that's such a waste of one of the most talented guys on the roster, just because Hunter doesn't realise he should have hung it up long ago

 

Triple H is clearly trying to position himself into the "Undertaker" role, like it or not.

[The Dynamite Sid]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Triple H is clearly trying to position himself into the "Undertaker" role, like it or not.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm not disagreeing</p>

[Mootinie]

I completely forgot they were even doing a TakeOver on WrestleMania Weekend. Nobody in the wrestling circles I frequent has said a single thing about NXT since the last special they held.

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I completely forgot they were even doing a TakeOver on WrestleMania Weekend. Nobody in the wrestling circles I frequent has said a single thing about NXT since the last special they held.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Personally I've been behind the past couple weeks.....</p>

[The Final Countdown]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I completely forgot they were even doing a TakeOver on WrestleMania Weekend. Nobody in the wrestling circles I frequent has said a single thing about NXT since the last special they held.</div></blockquote><p> I completely tune them out aside from the Takeovers. Their TV show just doesn't interest me. </p><p> </p><p> (That said, I WILL be going to an NXT show next month. It's like ten minutes from my house, so whatevs. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />)</p>

[sabataged]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyways, on the actual topic of WWE.<p> </p><p> My thoughts going into WrestleMania so far</p><p> </p><p> Bray Wyatt© vs Randy Orton- More than likely going to be a solid, but not all that exciting of a match. Orton is a pretty decent in ring general despite his annoying mannerisms and being devoid of charisma. I expect Harper interference. If the Broken Hardy Family hadn't just won the ROH tag titles, I'd expect them to debut here honestly, but can't see that happening now unless they drop the belts at Supercard of Honor.</p><p> </p><p> Goldberg© vs Lesnar- The main event of a more than likely overly long show isn't going past five minutes tops. Ridiculous. My only hope is that Lesnar wins and then Joe starts chasing Lesnar. </p><p> </p><p> Jericho© vs Owens- Will probably be the match of the night. Jericho and Owens are fantastic and work well together. Can't say enough about how excited I am for this one.</p><p> </p><p> Bayley© vs Charlotte vs Sasha- Would have preferred if Charlotte was still champion here leading to Bayley winning the belt for the first time at Mania, but whatever. Three talented women and the only match announced so far that could rival Owens/Jericho as best match of the night.</p><p> </p><p> Gallows & Anderson vs Enzo/Cass or Cesaro/Sheamus- Don't care about this despite me being a huge fan of everyone except Sheamus. Haven't been given a reason to care sadly.</p><p> </p><p> Alexa Bliss© vs All Smackdown women- Could be fun for a car wreck style match. </p><p> </p><p> Andre the Giant Battle Royal- Hard to form any thoughts when Mojo and Apollo are the only two announced so far.</p><p> </p><p> I would have preferred to see AJ Styles be champion going into the show, but at least he'll be on the show. He's easily the best performer WWE has right now. Can't wait to see what he does.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> My thoughts...on your thoughts <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Bray/Orton - Best told story on the show. It has been a little soap operay but that's ok. This isn't a popular opinion but Randy Orton is the best in ring performer in WWE not named AJ Styles. He has been for a decade. The problem is he doesn't have a flashy spotfest move set that today's generation thinks you require. This is the reason all the old timers consistently all say he is the best in WWE. He very much is this generations Triple H. He won't be remembered as the top star like Cena and he won't even get the credit but he was as consistent as it gets. Orton and Bray both have a history of delivering at big shows and nothing bigger than this. I think it will be great.</p><p> </p><p> Goldberg vs Lesnar - The story is there. The mainstream attention is there. But I agree with you. If this match goes over 5-7 minutes it will fall off the rails badly. No chance Goldberg wins. Lesnar walks away as Universal champion in the last year of his contract.</p><p> </p><p> Jericho vs Owens - The second best story being told. I too think this will be match of the night (and I will even include Cruiserweight below). Owens is so damn good. Jericho has lost a step in the speed department but works circles around the competition in the psychology department. I hope they get to go 20 minutes to show what they can do. Owens will walk away as champion. Jericho has a summer tour with the band to attend to and WWE will need a top "champion" to main event house shows since Lesnar will be off to his farm in Canada.</p><p> </p><p> Bayley vs Sasha vs Charlotte (vs Nia) - I agree it is pretty much ruined. Charlotte should still be champion with Bayley capturing her first title at Wrestlemania. Charlotte should NOT have lost on RAW and should have retained by some sort of Sasha interference at Fastlane. This sets up Bayley pinning Sasha at Wrestlemania. It keeps Charlotte's streak of "not being pinned at a PPV" in tact even though she lost. It sets up the Sasha heel turn since she was the one pinned and puts Bayley on top of the mountain as the champion. In my opinion there is 3 wins right there. But yet we get this clusterf*ck of Bayley going into Mania. I say Bayley retains.</p><p> </p><p> Raw Tag Title Triple Threat - I honestly don't know or care? I say maybe Enzo and Cass wins here for a "wrestlemania moment" but I could honestly see any of them winning. </p><p> </p><p> Alexa Bliss vs All SD Women - Should be a cluster with probably Becky coming out with the title. Alexa has been absolutely fabulous with the title but I don't see a heel winning these stipulations. It wouldn't make any sense. I could honestly see anyone except Alexa winning here. I think Becky though.</p><p> </p><p> Andre the Giant Battle Royal - If Bruan is in this he will win. I don't think he has a match scheduled and this would be a good way to put him over even further without exposing him in a 1on1 match. Have the match come down to Braun vs Big Show with Braun winning.</p><p> </p><p> Additional matches since your post</p><p> </p><p> Neville vs Aries - Cruiserweight title match with potential match of the night possibility if given the time. Both are seasoned veterans who have traveled the world. I wouldn't book Neville's title reign to come to an end quite yet. I would have him cheat to win and keep his belt here. Aries should be built extremely strong though.</p><p> </p><p> Roman vs Undertaker - This is probably the least interested I have been in an Undertaker Mania match since Wrestlemania 22 against Mark Henry. Even the Bray match and last years Shane McMahon match had me more interested. And this is coming from a guy that isn't a Roman hater and thinks Roman is pretty darn great. I love the character Roman has going for him now. He is basically acting 100% heel by calling out the Undertaker. All signs point to Roman going over the Undertaker here. The red hot new "IT guy" against the aging veteran who looked like he was having trouble even walking at Royal Rumble. I still wouldn't be shocked to see Taker go over in a fantastic match that hardly no one will give credit to. If this is Takers last match he needs to lose to cement Roman as "the guy". Follow this up with Roman vs Cena next year as the show closer to really cement him.</p><p> </p><p> Ambrose vs Corbin - should be a fall count anywhere streetfight type match that Dean wanted out of Lesnar.</p><p> </p><p> John Cena/Nikki Bella vs Miz/Maryse - I hate this match. Even though it will be highly tauted as a "big match" it is nothing more than a throw away. The Miz has earned a top match at Mania with his year. John Cena even as part time as put on some amazing matches with Styles this year. To be thrown into a mix tag match is rather dumb. Maryse is not very good in the ring at all and Nikki is passable at best. End result of the match is probably Cena/Nikki hitting double finishers for the win. I dont see Cena letting Miz go 2-0 against him at Mania.</p><p> </p><p> Shane McMahon vs AJ Styles - Very disappointing for AJ to be stuck in this one. I realize it is probably the #2 match on Smackdown but with AJ Styles close to pushing 40 already he really only has maybe 5 total Mania's in him. For a guy that is called the greatest wrestler of this generation you would think you take full advantage of those 5 and match him up with the cream of the crop WWE has to offer. To me that is AJ/Cena (which now we have seen a million times), AJ/Roman (we have seen before but not Mania), AJ/Orton, AJ/Rollins and we have to eventually have AJ/Nakamura at Wrestlemania one time before AJ retires and Nakamura goes back to Japan. AJ will make the most of the situation and Shane will do something rememberable. Their spotfest will go 20 minutes and leave a lot of broke furniture behind. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I know its not a popular opinion but I am excited for Mania week. I see a lot of bashing about Mania all over the place but thats just typical wrestling (mostly WWE) fans. Every match on the card to me brings something different with potential for a big match. Personally I cant stand the idea of Goldberg vs Lesnar but I have a 9 year old son that loves wrestling and that is all he talks about. Some times we look at this through our jaded smark eyes and forget about the Casual Fans. Wrestlemania week is probably the one week of the year I go dark when it comes to Wrestling websites, twitter, reddit, discussion boards etc. I don't want anything ruined for me. I started that about 5 years ago and it was the smartest thing I ever did.</p>

[Blackman]

Well... it has potential but the biggest problem is probably that they've done the "dream" endings for these matches already, be it on the big shows or on RAW/SD. The double finishers from Cena/Bella have been done, Bayley's title win and the PPV stream are done,...

 

But they have at least two great storyline matches that would make it a good watch no matter what happens. You can't expect too much of Mania anymore with the Network established.

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well... it has potential but the biggest problem is probably that they've done the "dream" endings for these matches already, be it on the big shows or on RAW/SD. The double finishers from Cena/Bella have been done, Bayley's title win and the PPV stream are done,...<p> </p><p> But they have at least two great storyline matches that would make it a good watch no matter what happens. <strong>You can't expect too much of Mania anymore with the Network established.</strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think it should be the other way around, as it is always a platform to get new subscribers, but WWE seems to think that for what people are paying, mediocre will do. If that is their thinking then they should have stayed in PPV.</p>

[SanX]

<p>Srw</p><p> </p><p>

Did anybody check out the SRW-Southpaw Regional Wrestling on youtube? I just don't understand why WWE can't channel their creative forces in their flagship product like this. I mean, come on, this was best thing ever. </p><p> </p><p>

Go Big Barthelemew!</p>

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SanX" data-cite="SanX" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Did anybody check out the SRW-Southpaw Regional Wrestling on youtube? I just don't understand why WWE can't channel their creative forces in their flagship product like this. I mean, come on, this was best thing ever. <p> </p><p> Go Big Barthelemew!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The worst thing is that SRW got immediately upstaged by the new Paige drama.</p>

[Psycho Sam]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SanX" data-cite="SanX" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Did anybody check out the SRW-Southpaw Regional Wrestling on youtube? I just don't understand why WWE can't channel their creative forces in their flagship product like this. I mean, come on, this was best thing ever. <p> </p><p> Go Big Barthelemew!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think Sea Creature is clearly going to be a star</p><p> </p><p> also I loved the Lethal Leap Year thing they did.</p>

[The Dynamite Sid]

Watched all of the SRW stuff last night. I think people have overhyped it a little but it was really fun and really enjoyable never the less. Cena's Ron Burgundy-lite character was meh and it actually feels like something we've seen him do a lot of before.

 

But I loved Pelvis Wesley, The Sea Creature, Mr Macklemore and Big Bart and they all gave me really big laughs.

 

It's crazy that in a few minutes of screen time they had most of these guys exhibit more character than in hours of tv