Jaysin Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Cornette has a great mind for 80s style wrestling. He's a clueless, crotchety old man now who thinks that if something isn't his style that it's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Cornette has a great mind for 80s style wrestling. He's a clueless, crotchety old man now who thinks that if something isn't his style that it's wrong.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> On some things Cornette is an out and out genius. He should never hold a book in a nowadays setting but if he were ever put in place as a consultant he would knock that role out of the park. Cornette needs a filter because he is out of touch with a lot of things nowadays but from a basics perspective he would almost improve any product he would be involved with.</p><p> </p><p> I agree with a lot of his rants about what the wrestling business is but at the same time if you are not evolving your own perspective then you will never be taken serious by a younger audience.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Cornette refuses to watch Lucha Underground (my favorite promotion) because it's a network funded promotion headed by writers not bookers. And while the ratings aren't the best (they have deals with Itunes and Netflix now, though) he's clearly stuck in the past because LU is trying to do something different in the industry and its small but rabid fan base appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I guess I'll post some predictions for Money in the Bank WWE Smackdown Womens ChampionshipNaomi© vs Lana Womens MITBCarmella vs Charlotte vs Natalya vs Tamina vs Becky Lynch I'm expecting James Ellsworth to get involved WWE SMackdown Tag Titles The Usos© vs The New Day Mens MITB AJ Styles vs Nakamura vs Ziggler vs Zayn vs Corbin vs Owens WWE Championship Jinder Mahal© vs Randy Orton Who cares, put the belt on Nakamura and let him and AJ feud forever over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russelrules44 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 A'ight how do we all feel about Mr. Corbin being Money in the Bank's newest king? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evileddie10 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Not sure if the finish to the Women's MitB match is the best thing ever, or the worst... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Not sure if the finish to the Women's MitB match is the best thing ever, or the worst... If it was the attitude era it would have just stayed with ellsworth. Didn't watch it but it sounded like a great match right up until Elssworth stole it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Money in the Bank: Women's MITB - Good match. Not many memorable spots but the women did well for their first attempt at this type of match. The ending with Ellsworth and Carmella was great, especially with how hot the crowd were. New Day vs Usos - Good match. Cheap finish and a few botches aside the last 5 minutes had some cool sequences. The Usos should not lose until SummerSlam. Lana vs Naomi - OK match. Lana is closer to Brie's level than Eva's, which is impressive this early on in her training. It should have been non-title, though. Mike & Maria Kanellis (aka The First Lady of WWE and her Cucked Husband) - I like the gimmick so far. The Maharaja vs Orton - Good match. I didn't expect to like it much but I was pleasantly surprised. I just wish they had let Jinder use the RKO to win because the heat would have been nuclear. Breezango vs Ascension - I skipped the match because I wanted American Alpha not Ascension. Hopefully that's still to come. Men's MITB - Great match. Corbin was a good choice but Zayn would have been better, IMO. Verdict: Good PPV with a hot crowd. I enjoyed it more than Extreme Rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Money in the Bank:</strong><p> </p><p> <strong>Women's MITB</strong> - Good match. Not many memorable spots but the women did well for their first attempt at this type of match. The ending with Ellsworth and Carmella was great, especially with how hot the crowd were.</p><p> <strong>New Day vs Usos</strong> - Good match. Cheap finish and a few botches aside the last 5 minutes had some cool sequences. The Usos should not lose until SummerSlam.</p><p> <strong>Lana vs Naomi</strong> - OK match. Lana is closer to Brie's level than Eva's, which is impressive this early on in her training. It should have been non-title, though.</p><p> <strong>Mike & Maria Kanellis (aka The First Lady of WWE and her Cucked Husband)</strong> - I like the gimmick so far.</p><p> <strong>The Maharaja vs Orton</strong> - Good match. I didn't expect to like it much but I was pleasantly surprised. I just wish they had let Jinder use the RKO to win because the heat would have been nuclear.</p><p> <strong>Breezango vs Ascension</strong> - I skipped the match because I wanted American Alpha not Ascension. Hopefully that's still to come.</p><p> <strong>Men's MITB</strong> - Great match. Corbin was a good choice but Zayn would have been better, IMO.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Verdict:</strong> Good PPV with a hot crowd. I enjoyed it more than Extreme Rules.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was at the show. I think its my 8th PPV and probably went to 8-10 Raw's over the years. Jinder got the loudest heel heat I have ever heard personally. I know a lot of it is smark heat because he is the new big guy pushed to the moon by Vince but still. A reaction is a reaction. A lot of it was facing Orton too since St Louis is Orton's home town.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Best Raw in a long time except for the Women's Division. They have no clue what to do so they just throw them all in the one segment like it's a go-home show <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I just want a 10 minute Sasha/Emma match with a clean finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Best Raw in a long time except for the Women's Division. They have no clue what to do so they just throw them all in the one segment like it's a go-home show <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I just want a 10 minute Sasha/Emma match with a clean finish.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That is something that neither Vince or creative truly gets. They just need to book them like they are men and they will knock it out of the park. Treat the champs like they are main eventers and your casual audience will take them seriously. It is simple but somehow flies over creative's head.</p><p> </p><p> They have the talent but they don't know what to do with them. It is like they have 20 Damien Sandows. While it might be obvious to us and they get really good reactions they just don't know how to tell stories for them unless their name is Roman Reigns (and even then they miss wildly with those swings).</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I can see him interjecting himself in the match to take the briefcase and use it for himself. Nah, that won't happen. Figures... I can see him feuding with Carmella over the fact that it's his, not hers, and using it for a title shot against the champ. Haven't seen the main event yet, but the rest was mediocre, with some generic smackdown fragments thrown in. What worth has a PPV nowadays? Things like this make me cancel my subscription. Unless Emma saves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeidos Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 <p>Women's Money in the Bank *potential spoilers*</p><p> </p><p> First of all, I'm still wrapping my head around the whole thing. I'm not mad, but i'm not happy. I mean, I was kind of expecting something like this, but not Ellsworth actually being the one to grab it. </p><p> </p><p> I guessed they would redo the whole money in the bank on smackdown, my prediction is Carmella wins cleanly, or they add in a new person to make it 6-women, so probably a new-comer from NXT or Nikki (Doubtful due to her history with neck issues). </p><p> </p><p> I want to hear everyone elses opinions on it since this is wrestling and opinions are a great way to see how the product is affecting people.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Aeidos" data-cite="Aeidos" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First of all, I'm still wrapping my head around the whole thing. I'm not mad, but i'm not happy. I mean, I was kind of expecting something like this, but not Ellsworth actually being the one to grab it. <p> </p><p> I guessed they would redo the whole money in the bank on smackdown, my prediction is Carmella wins cleanly, or they add in a new person to make it 6-women, so probably a new-comer from NXT or Nikki (Doubtful due to her history with neck issues). </p><p> </p><p> I want to hear everyone elses opinions on it since this is wrestling and opinions are a great way to see how the product is affecting people.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> While pushing the MITB match as historic and having Ellsworth grab the case guaranteed a crapstorm of backlash, I personally love the story they're telling. I expected that finish and couldn't think of a more entertaining alternative. Miz & Maryse would have done the same because that's the type of thing good heels do. Carmella killed it on Smackdown and Talking Smack. Bryan losing it as Ellsworth was great. Becky's top class reaction promos (on TV and Youtube) make her highly sympathetic. WWE knew full well what the reaction was going to be and they leaned into it for maximum heat. I just hope they follow through and let Carmella win again next week, in controversial fashion of course.</p><p> </p><p> Meanwhile on Raw I refuse to give a toss about any of the women until they bother to book some actual storylines.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjohns44 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Did anybody else google map Chad Gables fake address? I knew he wasn't going to give his real address out but thought it would be something the locals knew. I got a Catholic school. Wtf is he doing at a Catholic school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jjohns44" data-cite="jjohns44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Did anybody else google map Chad Gables fake address? I knew he wasn't going to give his real address out but thought it would be something the locals knew. I got a Catholic school. Wtf is he doing at a Catholic school? ��</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wright State University where he actually lives in a dorm... believe it or not!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Bad promo to start with from Reigns. A lot of his constructs just didn't make any sense. He even used "Samoa Joe" even though he was shooting for an angle of calling him just "Joe". Him opening the doors like an idiot also isn't helping him get heat or love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Joe choking Lesnar out was one of the best things I've seen on Raw in a long time. Lesnar turning purple made me feel uneasy, but I'm guessing it was his idea for Joe to legit put the move on him. Lesnar having a super sunburned face really added to the look of him being choked out as well. WWE may have an idiotic name for the next Raw event, but as long as a motivated Lesnar shows up(highly unlikely, but I'm cautiously optimistic) then we'll at least get a good main event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rone Rivendale Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 WWE may have an idiotic name for the next Raw event, but as long as a motivated Lesnar shows up(highly unlikely, but I'm cautiously optimistic) then we'll at least get a good main event. According to Jerry Lawler (per Cageside Seats) Great Balls of Fire is planned to be a yearly event, not just a one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhawk8492 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 With the name and the 50s theme I think Vince misses his youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 <p>So I actually enjoyed most of Raw this week.. the stuff they put some effort into anyway like: Roman's ambulance bump, Joe choking Lesnar, Enzo/Cass, Titus Brand, women's gauntlet match (Nia did well but thank goodness Sasha won).</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="DDSwlMaVYAAPz_1.jpg" data-src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDSwlMaVYAAPz_1.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I get putting the Women's MITB rematch on Smackdown for ratings, but it is so stupid to do it again. If you are going to have the same person win twice, why even do the second one? In my opinion, all it does is demean the math and briefcase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyDavidson Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 So apparently Tyson Kidd is being moved into a backstage role. On the one hand this saddens me if it's true as it means his career is over, though that's hardly surprising given the severity of the injury that put him on the couch in the first place. On the other hand I'm happy because it means he's still employed and still capable of supporting his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MightyDavidson" data-cite="MightyDavidson" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So apparently Tyson Kidd is being moved into a backstage role. On the one hand this saddens me if it's true as it means his career is over, though that's hardly surprising given the severity of the injury that put him on the couch in the first place. On the other hand I'm happy because it means he's still employed and still capable of supporting his family.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'd rather see him in the role they give Jaime Noble nowadays, for instance. He'd make it more entertaining. Lots of potential for good tv.</p><p> </p><p> As for MitB reboot: it doesn't seem like a good idea but as mentioned before the importance of PPV's is fading as a result of the subscription model. Hope they didn't make it the main event as the women already had that honor on RAW, though I feel the match wasn't worthy of main event status.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Reallly enjoyed Smackdown and NXT this week. Asuka rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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