The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Fleisch]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Raw had some decent wrestling but good god the booking was utter tripe. Phoning it in with SummerSlam a month away is baffling.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They don't have to try. Those who are going to watch Summerslam are already paying for the WWE Network so they already have the "buy rate". Why bother trying to work harder on your product if people are already paying for the mediocrity you're happy spewing out? The only way you will see them improve is if every subscriber to the Network cancels their subscription and says to hell with WWE... but we all know that won't happen because we live in an age where mediocrity and lack of effort is accepted.</p><p> </p><p> I cancelled the Network after Wrestlemania and nothing is really making me want to invest my hours or money in anything WWE does except maybe NXT (but I'm not paying 9.99 just for that!)</p>

[milamber]

Smackdown was actually really good.

[ThriceP86]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They don't have to try. Those who are going to watch Summerslam are already paying for the WWE Network so they already have the "buy rate". Why bother trying to work harder on your product if people are already paying for the mediocrity you're happy spewing out? The only way you will see them improve is if every subscriber to the Network cancels their subscription and says to hell with WWE... but we all know that won't happen because we live in an age where mediocrity and lack of effort is accepted.<p> </p><p> I cancelled the Network after Wrestlemania and nothing is really making me want to invest my hours or money in anything WWE does except maybe NXT (but I'm not paying 9.99 just for that!)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have the opposite reason for not cancelling my network subscription: All the classic stuff they put on there! Lately, I've been watching ECW and WCCW. The Hidden Gems are kind of cool too!</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They don't have to try. Those who are going to watch Summerslam are already paying for the WWE Network so they already have the "buy rate". Why bother trying to work harder on your product if people are already paying for the mediocrity you're happy spewing out? The only way you will see them improve is if every subscriber to the Network cancels their subscription and says to hell with WWE... but we all know that won't happen because we live in an age where mediocrity and lack of effort is accepted.<p> </p><p> I cancelled the Network after Wrestlemania and nothing is really making me want to invest my hours or money in anything WWE does except maybe NXT (but I'm not paying 9.99 just for that!)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Exactly. I get the Network for a month every year when the Royal Rumble is about to happen because that is my favorite PPV, once my free month is up I peace out until the next year. The Network and the WWE in general just does not interest me anymore. </p><p> </p><p> I wish Vince had actual competition, maybe then the product would get better. I always find it funny that Vince's goal was to be the last man standing and he is. However, he only really thrives when he has someone nipping at his heels.</p>

[Blake Trask]

I didn't watch much of the show at all but I am very down with those opaque contacts Jeff was rocking.

[milamber]

Another good NXT. The Womens Division is the strongest it's been since the Four Horsewomen and post-MYC 2 it will be even better. I haven't read spoilers about the next 4 shows but I expect them to be good because the Takeover card is getting a lot of buzz.

[milamber]

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[BHK1978]

<p>One of the things that has always annoyed me with the WWF/WWE is when they hype something like they are the first to do it. This whole Women's Revolution is just the latest example. </p><p> </p><p>

Now don't get me wrong I am not against it, in fact I am all for it. That being said it should have happened a few years ago. I laugh when I hear all this talk about how Evolution is this innovative idea that will change Women's wrestling forever. Mainly because TNA/Global Force/Impact/Whatever the name of the company is this week, have been holding all women's pay-per-views for years now (I am not sure if Shimmer or Shine have ever held pay-per-views before, someone who is more knowledgeable on the subject can say if they did or did not). </p><p> </p><p>

Evolution is not some sort of groundbreaking event, it is just an event that they should have held years ago. Now granted their talent roster was not as deep a few years ago but I think there was enough decent talent to make it work.</p><p> </p><p>

Or when they tried to pull off the Attitude Era which I always felt was a ripoff of ECW. I mean I liked some of the stuff they did during that time period but a lot of it was crap.</p><p> </p><p>

I actually got annoyed with this stuff going back to when I was a kid (Meaning WWF making you think that someone was new when they were not, they were just repackaged with a crappy gimmick). I remember seeing Saba Simba and getting mad, not because it was racist (Which it was but at that point in my life my brain did not realize that), but mainly because I knew that was Tony Atlas and I did not like the fact that they were making a fool out of him.</p>

[Warhawk8492]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt="vSEnFfy.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/vSEnFfy.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="DjZRvGoU4AAU6-8.jpg" data-src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjZRvGoU4AAU6-8.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="DjZb4KiU8AActz4.jpg" data-src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjZb4KiU8AActz4.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks for the laugh</p>

[BHK1978]

<p>I always felt that Renee Young would be great at commentary. Boy oh boy was I wrong. Maybe it was nerves and I cannot blame her if that was the case but holy hell she was terrible. I think I would rather listen to Kyle O'Reilly's commentary on ROH TV from a couple of years ago. </p><p> </p><p>

I mean Corey Graves sucking is a given. He is a poor man's CM Punk trying to commentate as a poor man's Bobby the Brain. His jokes hardly ever hit and he always comes across as lame to me.</p><p> </p><p>

It is pretty bad when Michael Cole is the best person working the desk.</p>

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I always felt that Renee Young would be great at commentary. Boy oh boy was I wrong. Maybe it was nerves and I cannot blame her if that was the case but holy hell she was terrible. I think I would rather listen to Kyle O'Reilly's commentary on ROH TV from a couple of years ago. <p> </p><p> I mean Corey Graves sucking is a given. He is a poor man's CM Punk trying to commentate as a poor man's Bobby the Brain. His jokes hardly ever hit and he always comes across as lame to me.</p><p> </p><p> It is pretty bad when Michael Cole is the best person working the desk.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm kind of floored they just throw her on Television without proving herself. (I truly feel with some practice she could excel at the role) In my opinion they should pre screen their commentators with a pre taped show and have somebody like Vince screaming in their headset to show them what it is like. </p><p> </p><p> Byron Saxton was pretty decent on NXT but when he was given his first solo task on RAW he bombed hard and they had to bring King in to save him.</p><p> </p><p> Edit: I haven't watched a RAW in ages and I'm going over twitter comments it seems like she was pretty well received for the most part. The way I read your statement I thought she went solo so I was like "What was WWE thinking?" Honestly Vince is the person that ruins commentators IMO. If you watched the UK tournament Michael Cole was a joy to listen to because he was actually calling the match and not shilling for WWE merchandise and upcoming PPVs. Vince just doesn't understand having your lead commentator sounding like an infomercial hack is hurting the product. Those kind of segments are better served between matches not during the match itself. Sorry I went off the rails but it is a big contributor as to why I can't stomach watching the shows anymore.</p>

[Derek B]

<p>I think the only thing wrong with Renee was that they didn't have her mic up high enough. And Corey is still the best colour commentator in the WWE just now... but the WWE announcing booth is a very different style than it has been in the past. Gone are the days when it's babyface lead announcer vs heel colour commentator... these days the WWE is trying to cater to a variety of demographics and the commentary team reflects that.</p><p> </p><p>

Michael Cole (RAW) and Tom Phillips (SD) both represent a more mature audience and reflect an older 80s style of fan with their general professionalism and mostly babyface style of doing things, while often not appealing to younger fans.</p><p> </p><p>

Corey Graves is much more of an Attitude Era guy (toned down for PG) who also reflects a more smarky crowd who will cheer for heels and like whatever is "cool", no matter the alignments of the wrestlers involved. Typically older fans won't like him as much and the youngest fans might not understand him too well.</p><p> </p><p>

Then you have Byron Saxton, Renee Young (at least last night) and the other guy I forget the name of.... Vic something? They represent the younger fans, the ones who see things in black and white. The kids who cheer the babyfaces and boo the heels, the ones who have Cena and Roman merchandise galore. Older fans generally think this person is an idiot for acting a lot like a child, but this person is the link the child has to the commentary team.</p><p> </p><p>

Through this mix of people who are aimed at different audiences you can ignore a face/heel dynamic and you get a voice that will represent you at some stage of your fandom. Each one adds something to the table, which is why it can often be jarring to have someone come in who doesn't fill one of those roles... someone like Booker T is woeful in that dynamic because he can't fill that third chair, can't be better than Michael Cole and is nowhere near Corey either. Coach is still finding a place too because he also doesn't fit this dynamic... he would probably be best in the middle chair but again, has been away from the WWE for a long time and is struggling to keep up with Corey at all and just can't improvise anywhere near as well... heck, Coach seems to struggle to even read his lines sometimes.</p><p> </p><p>

NXT also has announce teams with a very similar dynamic too... Mauro and Nigel are great in both of their roles, with Percy Watson doing quite well as a third chair who can connect to a younger audience too, even though the NxT fanbase doesn't need that quite as much. It's an interesting way to do commentary and I like that the WWE tries it... whether it is fully successful is up for debate of course... but I like it and appreciate it for what it is. And if Renee is back on the announce team again, they really should turn up her mic. Please. Cos she's great. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[milamber]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm kind of floored they just throw her on Television without proving herself. (I truly feel with some practice she could excel at the role) <strong>In my opinion they should pre screen their commentators with a pre taped show and have somebody like Vince screaming in their headset to show them what it is like. </strong><p> </p><p> Byron Saxton was pretty decent on NXT but when he was given his first solo task on RAW he bombed hard and they had to bring King in to save him.</p><p> </p><p> Edit: I haven't watched a RAW in ages and I'm going over twitter comments it seems like she was pretty well received for the most part. The way I read your statement I thought she went solo so I was like "What was WWE thinking?" Honestly Vince is the person that ruins commentators IMO. If you watched the UK tournament Michael Cole was a joy to listen to because he was actually calling the match and not shilling for WWE merchandise and upcoming PPVs. Vince just doesn't understand having your lead commentator sounding like an infomercial hack is hurting the product. Those kind of segments are better served between matches not during the match itself. Sorry I went off the rails but it is a big contributor as to why I can't stomach watching the shows anymore.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Renee already did commentary for the Mae Young Classic 2 tapings last week and she said after Raw in a video that Vince only talked to her once during Raw and told her to slow down.</p><p> </p><p> I skipped through bits of Raw but what I heard she was OK. She sounded a little quiet but that's understandable for her first Raw. Booker is more entertaining but annoying and Coach is just annoying so the benchmark is low.</p>

[CQI13]

And she did NXT way back when as well as Main Event. Glad for her. Hopefully it works out. And if it doesn't, I won't know since I don't watch TV.

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And she did NXT way back when as well as Main Event. Glad for her. Hopefully it works out. And if it doesn't, I won't know since I don't watch TV.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's the thing, I enjoyed her commentary on NXT and I like her work over all. She seems to have a passion of the business and that is awesome. That is why I was kind of bummed when I watched her on RAW and found her commentary to be bad. Once again I am chalking it up to nerves and I think she needs to find her footing. Once she has done it for a couple of shows, I think she will be fine.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Edit: I haven't watched a RAW in ages and I'm going over twitter comments it seems like she was pretty well received for the most part. The way I read your statement I thought she went solo so I was like "What was WWE thinking?" Honestly Vince is the person that ruins commentators IMO. If you watched the UK tournament Michael Cole was a joy to listen to because he was actually calling the match and not shilling for WWE merchandise and upcoming PPVs. Vince just doesn't understand having your lead commentator sounding like an infomercial hack is hurting the product. Those kind of segments are better served between matches not during the match itself. Sorry I went off the rails but it is a big contributor as to why I can't stomach watching the shows anymore.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I mean Twitter is not going to be the best measuring stick. Because it is typically filled with people who are going to say, "Yasss queen slay". I mean she could be the worst commentator in the history and Twitter will talk about how great she is and I am not saying she is the worst, nobody could be as bad as Mongo, but I am saying that Twitter is a terrible place to get feedback.</p><p> </p><p> You are right about Vince ruining the commentators. I mean it makes sense because he was not that great at play-by-play or commentary either. It has to be unnerving to have him screaming crap in your ear all of the time.</p><p> </p><p> I forgot to quote Derek, but calling Corey the best commentator in the WWE right now still mean he is not great because that is a very low bar. Opinions will vary obviously, but to me he is not nearly as funny as he thinks he is. I hate his constant swipes at the other folks in the booth with him. There have been a couple of times where Michael Cole has thrown him something and Corey just does not respond which leads to dead air.</p>

[milamber]

Smackdown was OK but nothing important happened. The Miz/Bryan video packages however were A+.

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I forgot to quote Derek, but calling Corey the best commentator in the WWE right now still mean he is not great because that is a very low bar. Opinions will vary obviously, but to me he is not nearly as funny as he thinks he is. I hate his constant swipes at the other folks in the booth with him. There have been a couple of times where Michael Cole has thrown him something and Corey just does not respond which leads to dead air.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree, there are times when each of the commentators have said things that end up leading to awkward moments on air. I've noticed some similar ones between Cole and Graves too, but I often hear the set ups and cringe because there are only so many ways to respond to them, most of which are.... well, super lame. Which wouldn't fit Graves' character in general to say, but could perhaps fit the third chair a bit better.</p><p> </p><p> In TEW terms, I don't think anyone in the booth has positive chemistry these days and the experience levels are really only around medium too. No real bonuses to anything and I wouldn't say that anyone is world class at the kind of levels that a JR, Paul Heyman or Bobby Heenan were at their various peaks. It's another of WWE's many issues.... if the voices of the company can't connect with the crowd then they hurt everyone else's ability to connect, which is obviously something they don't want.</p><p> </p><p> Weirdly, despite me not thinking that Kevin Kelly and Rocky Romero are particulary good announcers, their work during the G1 for NJPW was very good and did a better job at getting the product over than Cole/Graves/etc usually do. Which seems weird to me.</p>

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I forgot to quote Derek, but calling Corey the best commentator in the WWE right now still mean he is not great because that is a very low bar. Opinions will vary obviously, but to me he is not nearly as funny as he thinks he is. I hate his constant swipes at the other folks in the booth with him. There have been a couple of times where Michael Cole has thrown him something and Corey just does not respond which leads to dead air.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree, there are times when each of the commentators have said things that end up leading to awkward moments on air. I've noticed some similar ones between Cole and Graves too, but I often hear the set ups and cringe because there are only so many ways to respond to them, most of which are.... well, super lame. Which wouldn't fit Graves' character in general to say, but could perhaps fit the third chair a bit better.</p><p> </p><p> In TEW terms, I don't think anyone in the booth has positive chemistry these days and the experience levels are really only around medium too. No real bonuses to anything and I wouldn't say that anyone is world class at the kind of levels that a JR, Paul Heyman or Bobby Heenan were at their various peaks. It's another of WWE's many issues.... if the voices of the company can't connect with the crowd then they hurt everyone else's ability to connect, which is obviously something they don't want.</p><p> </p><p> Weirdly, despite me not thinking that Kevin Kelly and Rocky Romero are particulary good announcers, their work during the G1 for NJPW was very good and did a better job at getting the product over than Cole/Graves/etc usually do. Which seems weird to me.</p>

[Blackman]

 

Good lord. It's "worst" Vince, not "baddest". And I'm not even a native speaker. XD

 

Unless he actually meant... no... it can't be. I mean: Just look at it.

[Rone Rivendale]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> <div class="ipsEmbeddedOther"> <iframe data-embedid="e9302bcc32a3db2064f01e3b3d242e56" allowfullscreen="" data-embed-src="<___base_url___>/index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=embed&url=https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon/status/1020035590165803008"></iframe> </div><p> </p><p> Good lord. It's "worst" Vince, not "baddest". And I'm not even a native speaker. XD</p><p> </p><p> Unless he actually meant... no... it can't be. I mean: Just look at it.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The comments on that tweet made my day. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[milamber]

<p><strong>Takeover Brooklyn:</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Undisputed Era © vs Mustache Mountain</strong> - Great match. Best chemistry in the tag division since DIY/Revival. **** 1/2</p><p>

<strong>Dream vs EC3</strong> - Good match but EC3 a bit too limited in the ring. Dream's tights never fail to amaze and he got a much needed win. *** 3/4</p><p>

<strong>Ricochet vs Cole ©</strong> - Great match. Thought Cole would retain but Ricochet will be an entertaining Champion. **** 1/2</p><p>

<strong>Kairi vs Shayna ©</strong> - Great match. Shayna's submission work was better than ever. Kairi is the best babyface in NXT since Sami Zayn, IMO. I like that they kept Shayna strong by not having her tap to Kairi's new submission. Save that for the rematch. **** 1/2</p><p>

<strong>Gargano vs Ciampa ©</strong> - Great match. I wasn't looking forward to these guys fighting again but they hooked me early on and delivered again. Docked it a quarter star due to diminishing returns on the storytelling. **** 1/2</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Verdict:</strong> The usual NXT Takeover goodness. I'm happy the women weren't overshadowed as they often are. Post-MYC they need to add a 2nd women's match to the card with the incoming talent.</p><p> </p><p>

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[Jaysin]

<p>The tag match had some terrible story telling.</p><p> </p><p>

The teasing throwing in the towel spot was just asinine. Just get in the ring and break up the dang submission. You’re allowed. It’s part of tag team wrestling. The fact they lost the tag titles to that spot is even worse.</p><p> </p><p>

Literally one of the worst spots I’ve ever seen. The first time it made Tyler Bate look like an idiot and this time it made Trent look stupid. There is no defending this spot either. Just terrible story telling. Whoever the road agent was for the match should be ashamed for letting it happen twice.</p>

[milamber]

<p>SummerSlam was a glorified Raw/Smackdown Super Show. Big PPVs should be about quality wrestling and hot feuds, not cramming as many bodies on the card as possible.</p><p> </p><p>

- Mixed tag match, B-Team/Revival and Corbin/Balor didn't need to be on the PPV. Expected more from the Cruiserweights but why would they bother on the Kickoff Show? Cedric should have lost his title by now.</p><p>

- Ziggler/Rollins was great</p><p>

- Skipped Bludgeon Bros/New Day. It should have been on the Kickoff Show.</p><p>

- Skipped Owens/Strowman. They are only still feuding because Creative has nothing better for them to do.</p><p>

- Charlotte/Becky/Carmella was good but Carmella was clearly the weakest performer. I'm not sure turning Becky was a smart idea but the crowd loved it. The important thing is Carmella is no longer Champion.</p><p>

- AJ/Joe was good after a slow start. Shame it was buried in the middle of the card. Joe is a fantastic heel. I feel sorry for AJ's kid.</p><p>

- Miz/Bryan was great. I got swerved by the ending.</p><p>

- I'm not surprised Nak/Jeff was a short match. Jeff doesn't look like he's in much better shape than Matt and he takes more risks. The Orton walking segment was dumb.</p><p>

- Ronda even makes squash matches fun. The women's makeup keeps getting worse... or do I get Meltzered if I say that?</p><p>

- They did their best to make the main event interesting and Lesnar finally lost but this crap should have been over 4 months ago at Mania.</p>

[ThriceP86]

milamber, I agree that the pre-show matches were not needed and just seemed like filler. However, I enjoyed the show for the most part. It was definitely not a perfect show but I enjoyed it more than last years Summerslam.

 

Unpopular opinion: I think Carmella is actually getting better especially since she shared the ring with two of the best on the roster last night. She's not leaps and bounds better but it seemed like she at least tried to up her game besides just being a cocky heel. Plus, I was glad she didn't powder out at the beginning of the match like most heels do in a triple threat match.

 

Also, I've never been so happy for Becky to turn heel and can't wait to see where it's going next. Now I see why they scrapped the stupid Bayley/Sasha crap.

[Blackman]

I skipped Bludgeon Bros/New Day, Owens/Strowman, Nak/Jeff & Corbin/Balor and not regretting it apparently. (4 hour PPV :L) They should've done Rusev vs Cien singles on the normal show. It's Summerslam ffs. Perhaps the short Cedric/Gulag should've been on it to provide a quick cruiser in-between.

 

The start of the main event was just stupid. They tease a squash which might rise heart rates, but it makes Reigns look bad (I mean: even worse). I did love the premature Strowman intervention/tease. That was great.

 

Rollins/Ziggler was the best thing, and it came first. Must be some sort of ass-backwards "perfect show theory". Rousey/Alexa was entertaining. Miz/Bryan was the biggest match on paper, and it delivered. The drifter segment was good. Loved the Becky turn and hope she keeps the face paint and hair (which looked badass for a heel version of her). So the PPV certainly wasn't bad, but I did finally cancel my subscription after this. It's just not for me anymore. After 6 weeks without coffee and being filled with cafeine today, I actually fell asleep at 5PM during AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe. What the hell? The match was good but I just didn't care (apparently). The context was horrible: Joe badmouthing AJ's kid? Really? They came up with nothing better? How about them just having a great match, nothing attached? Come on, WWE... They're just trolling legit fans by having dream matches ruined by cockknocking and pathetic child pestering.

 

That and I'm still pissed from Emma's departure. And I also found out the Andre the Giant documentary I wanted to watch so badly is not even on the Network, so f*ck this. Bye WWE.