Arrows Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Yea. Punk's push is still intact. Now he gets to job to Nash. That's main event level, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Yea. Punk's push is still intact. Now he gets to job to Nash. That's main event level, for sure. How is he jobbing to Nash? He was attacked from behind after a match and they haven't even had a match yet. If your upset he is in a fued with Nash fair enough, but you can't say he is jobbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 How is he jobbing to Nash? He was attacked from behind after a match and they haven't even had a match yet. If your upset he is in a fued with Nash fair enough, but you can't say he is jobbing. Nash doesn't put people over. Never has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Under normal circumstances, I would have no doubt that the big name from the past coming back will put current guy over. But it's Kevin Nash, a man who has a history of coming up with excuse of getting out of doing jobs. And even when he does them, they're rarely done in a manner that gets the other guy over. I fully expect Punk will get a win over Nash, but I'm not confident it'll be in a manner that gets him over. And even if Nash plays ball and wants to put Punk over, is he even physically capable of it at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Yea. Punk's push is still intact. Now he gets to job to Nash. That's main event level, for sure. Your such a "The glass is half empty" type, aren't you? On RAW, Nash had security to protect himself specifically from Punk... Made him look scared of Punk to be honest. Punks getting more "Pipe Bomb" time then anyone right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Nash doesn't put people over. Never has. I fully expect someone to bring up his loss to Rey as 'proof' he puts people over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Your such a "The glass is half empty" type, aren't you? On RAW, Nash had security to protect himself specifically from Punk... Made him look scared of Punk to be honest. Punks getting more "Pipe Bomb" time then anyone right now. The glass is far below half empty. WWE finally has a story where I'm intrigued and don't know what's going to happen, and they manage to screw it up entirely and put the spotlight on a feud we've seen 400 times, while the most talked about guy on the roster gives Trip's buddy some air time. Let's not forget Punk gets to carry Nash, while Cena, the LOSER, gets the run with Alberto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 The glass is far below half empty. WWE finally has a story where I'm intrigued and don't know what's going to happen, and they manage to screw it up entirely and put the spotlight on a feud we've seen 400 times, while the most talked about guy on the roster gives Trip's buddy some air time. Let's not forget Punk gets to carry Nash, while Cena, the LOSER, gets the run with Alberto. Cena's foot was on the rope he was screwed, while Punk lost the title cleanly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 The glass is far below half empty. WWE finally has a story where I'm intrigued and don't know what's going to happen, and they manage to screw it up entirely and put the spotlight on a feud we've seen 400 times, while the most talked about guy on the roster gives Trip's buddy some air time. Let's not forget Punk gets to carry Nash, while Cena, the LOSER, gets the run with Alberto. Let's say this is how it goes, but for the sake of debate here... let's say both of them win in their respective goals (Punk and Cena). In my opinion, right now Nash > WWE Title. To me, Punks in the best feud (if that's how they go with it). To most of the audience, they are going to be alot more curious about Kevin Nash vs. Punk, then Cena vs. Alberto. No one is going to care if Nash can go or not, and no one is going to care who is doing the carrying, outside of us and the IWC. To the majority, it's going to look like Punk has the tougher competition here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Punk will be brought back around the belt soon enough. Whatever power struggle happens is caused mostly by Nash himself. It won't be long before Cena/Del Rio get into the crossfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Let's say this is how it goes, but for the sake of debate here... let's say both of them win in their respective goals (Punk and Cena). In my opinion, right now Nash > WWE Title. To me, Punks in the best feud (if that's how they go with it). To most of the audience, they are going to be alot more curious about Kevin Nash vs. Punk, then Cena vs. Alberto. No one is going to care if Nash can go or not, and no one is going to care who is doing the carrying, outside of us and the IWC. To the majority, it's going to look like Punk has the tougher competition here. Yea. Some old useless bum with a bad leg > the WWE Champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaySo Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 The glass is far below half empty. WWE finally has a story where I'm intrigued and don't know what's going to happen, and they manage to screw it up entirely and put the spotlight on a feud we've seen 400 times, while the most talked about guy on the roster gives Trip's buddy some air time. Let's not forget Punk gets to carry Nash, while Cena, the LOSER, gets the run with Alberto. Generic IWC alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Generic IWC alert. Guys who say they don't watch yet come back knowing more than the guys that do. Yes! The type of IWC fans I absolutly hate! Thats why this is the only forum I go on there is not many IWC fans like that on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Yea. Some old useless bum with a bad leg > the WWE Champion. in terms of TV time it sure felt like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Yea. Some old useless bum with a bad leg > the WWE Champion. I bet that old bum will draw better ratings than most of the young guys on the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I bet that old bum will draw better ratings than most of the young guys on the show. Much like he did for TNA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Much like he did for TNA... Hush. Facts like that are not wanted here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Much like he did for TNA... The fact that TNA and Spike never put the effort towards hyping their shows and not many people watch in the first place I dont see how that is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Nostalgia returns are good for one maybe two spikes in ratings and/or PPV's. After that, the novelty wears off and they're no longer meaningful. And it's funny how the people who get all self-righteous and rant against the 'Generic IWC' fan are always the same people. It's ironic that the people who bitch about people who bitch and throw out the, "If you don't like it, why watch it?" mantra are themselves constantly bitching about the same thing over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Nostalgia returns are good for one maybe two spikes in ratings and/or PPV's. After that, the novelty wears off and they're no longer meaningful. And it's funny how the people who get all self-righteous and rant against the 'Generic IWC' fan are always the same people. It's ironic that the people who bitch about people who bitch and throw out the, "If you don't like it, why watch it?" mantra are themselves constantly bitching about the same thing over and over again. What do I bitch about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 The fact that TNA and Spike never put the effort towards hyping their shows and not many people watch in the first place I dont see how that is the same. If Nash is a big enough star shouldn't people go out of their way to watch him? When Hogan went to TNA the rating went up for a bit. I know a guy who used to trash TNA all of the time but once Hogan showed up he became a huge TNA fan. How many fans did Nash bring over to TNA during his time there? At this point in time Kevin Nash could not draw flies if he was covered in crap. Do the Little Jimmy's even know who the heck he is and do they care? Even when he was the champion in the WWF he was the lowest drawing champion of all-time. The fact is people don't really care about Nash. Much like Fantabulous said, him coming back might give a slight bump to the ratings but that is all he is good for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMAN Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Nash coming back is cool, I just hope it's not a long term deal. It's nice to see an old guy hanging around after the departures of Kane and Show, though. You gotta have at least 1 or 2 legends around. Hmm, maybe XPAC will come back as well?! XPac vs. Punk would be MOTCentury. eXXXX PAAAAHC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Nash coming back is cool, I just hope it's not a long term deal. It's nice to see an old guy hanging around after the departures of Kane and Show, though. You gotta have at least 1 or 2 legends around. Hmm, maybe XPAC will come back as well?! XPac vs. Punk would be MOTCentury. eXXXX PAAAAHC Can Pac even wrestle anymore? Pretty sure the Hep ended that career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabbo Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 The glass is far below half empty. WWE finally has a story where I'm intrigued and don't know what's going to happen, and they manage to screw it up entirely and put the spotlight on a feud we've seen 400 times, while the most talked about guy on the roster gives Trip's buddy some air time. Let's not forget Punk gets to carry Nash, while Cena, the LOSER, gets the run with Alberto. Stop watching then. Simple. If the negatives outweigh the positives and they clearly do with you, stop watching. I'm not even being flippant, I don't know why you continue to watch someone you have so many problems with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Stop watching then. Simple. If the negatives outweigh the positives and they clearly do with you, stop watching. I'm not even being flippant, I don't know why you continue to watch someone you have so many problems with. Cause there's, yanno. People there I want to see and can't elsewhere. Obviously. Why don't you people stop making the same completely useless point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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