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I've recently gotten back to watching TNA since getting rid of cable years ago. The biggest positive is that, despite their history telling me otherwise, they have good places to go from here. Matt Hardy makes for a solid heel champ, and ECIII is still good, though I haven't seen his face promo yet. The tag division could use more structure in the feuds, but Beer Money, The Wolves and Decay seem like good pairings. There's also EY & Bram in the mix, but I dislike both of them, so eh. I'm not sold on anything X Division, but I like Gregory Helms (they're calling him Gregory Shane Helms? Really?) and he's managing Trevor Lee, which could be good. Mike Bennett and Maria are doing a good job with their promos, and the feud with Drew Galloway ought to be good. Neglecting the storylines that got them to this point, there's potential. Can they not screw it up for once?

 

Apologies for the randomness, but didn't you use to have an avatar? :p

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Loved Lockdown SPOILERS BELOW

 

So just finished Lockdown and by god I love this story. Corgan said fans should expect deeper and more well thought out storylines when they move to pop tv and he was right. Spud turning heel tonight was fantastic, why would he forgive EC3 for all the things that EC3 did to him, no he wanted to return the favour. Now the best heel in the business right now Matt Hardy has himself, his wife, Tryus and Spud.

 

Still not the biggest fan of EY but I see his worth, I think it might be time for Bram to go solo. Trevor Lee winning was awesome, he is a fantastic talent and I can't wait for him to do well in TNA plus they have made Tigre Uno look fantastic. Anyway can't wait for next week.

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<p>Wait?!?! TNA turned somebody heel?!?! That hasn't happened in... er... 2 weeks? Anyone who didn't see Spud turning the minute he aligned with EC3, well I've a bag of fresh air I'm willing to sell you. Yes it's "logical" but no, it isn't really surprising, and certainly isn't a swerve as most fans saw it coming. TNA have unfortunately played the "heel turn" card so often, it's cheap and meaningless these days when they do it.</p><p> </p><p>

Nothing is deep or thoughtful when it comes to TNA's creative. In terms of depth, I doubt you could really fill a shot glass. Some may say I'm being harsh, but I watched TNA for so many years, even stuck through the Hogan/Bischoff disaster and a little way beyond. It isn't even a 10th as entertaining as it once was. It makes WWE creative look like Shakespearean playwrights it's that predictable in it's so called "thoughtful" stories.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wait?!?! TNA turned somebody heel?!?! That hasn't happened in... er... 2 weeks? Anyone who didn't see Spud turning the minute he aligned with EC3, well I've a bag of fresh air I'm willing to sell you. Yes it's "logical" but no, it isn't really surprising, and certainly isn't a swerve as most fans saw it coming. TNA have unfortunately played the "heel turn" card so often, it's cheap and meaningless these days when they do it.<p> </p><p> Nothing is deep or thoughtful when it comes to TNA's creative. In terms of depth, I doubt you could really fill a shot glass. Some may say I'm being harsh, but I watched TNA for so many years, even stuck through the Hogan/Bischoff disaster and a little way beyond. It isn't even a 10th as entertaining as it once was. It makes WWE creative look like Shakespearean playwrights it's that predictable in it's so called "thoughtful" stories.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I definitely agree with you. I was just giving credit where it was due, but yeah, it really doesn't have that much of a significance at all when you look it that way...I was just being positive for once with this pile of suck that is called a company. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> And don't think I'm a TNA hater at all, friends...I hope for the best...but that won't come until some players are out of the game off-screen. Until then, yes, TNA is really a pile of suck.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dave_Scott" data-cite="Dave_Scott" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So much negativity <strong>#OkatoCri</strong> :'C</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Bring up one of the numerous time TNA massively cocked up when talking about negativity surrounding TNA decision making isn't exactly a good move. ¬_¬</p><p> </p><p> I'm with Fleisch. Seems like TNA hate having solid alignments/roster. Spud turning heel adds little to nothing to his character, especially after the I'm With Spud segments and Spud as a face was something TNA was doing that was actually getting some fairly decent responses (by TNA standards anyways).</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Bring up one of the numerous time TNA massively cocked up when talking about negativity surrounding TNA decision making isn't exactly a good move. ¬_¬<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Twas a joke man, chill.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wait?!?! TNA turned somebody heel?!?! That hasn't happened in... er... 2 weeks? Anyone who didn't see Spud turning the minute he aligned with EC3, well I've a bag of fresh air I'm willing to sell you. Yes it's "logical" but no, it isn't really surprising, and certainly isn't a swerve as most fans saw it coming. TNA have unfortunately played the "heel turn" card so often, it's cheap and meaningless these days when they do it.<p> </p><p> Nothing is deep or thoughtful when it comes to TNA's creative. In terms of depth, I doubt you could really fill a shot glass. Some may say I'm being harsh, but I watched TNA for so many years, even stuck through the Hogan/Bischoff disaster and a little way beyond. It isn't even a 10th as entertaining as it once was. It makes WWE creative look like Shakespearean playwrights it's that predictable in it's so called "thoughtful" stories.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I definitely agree with you. I was just giving credit where it was due, but yeah, it really doesn't have that much of a significance at all when you look it that way...I was just being positive for once with this pile of suck that is called a company. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> And don't think I'm a TNA hater at all, friends...I hope for the best...but that won't come until some players are out of the game off-screen. Until then, yes, TNA is really a pile of suck.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not trying to come of an a-hole but did you guys watch the episode?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The_CoC" data-cite="The_CoC" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not trying to come of an a-hole but did you guys watch the episode?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You don't sound like an a-hole. Yes. I have been trying to give TNA another go but it is the same old recycled rubbish. Nothing new, nothing that makes me think "that was great" and nothing that can keep my attention.</p><p> </p><p> Here's the thing, I like CHIKARA - it's consistent, it's stories unfold over months, if not years and things happening now can be explained by things that happened in 2009 for example. Yes it's characters are off the wall and at points silly, but it's entertaining and consistent (for the most part) and you know who is who and who stands for what. It doesn't rush it's stories, it lets them develop over time and it is entertaining - because CHIKARA is exactly what it says, fun and it keeps to that format of being an entertaining product. </p><p> </p><p> TNA on the other hand don't know what sort of promotion they are and instead of putting some real quality writing into their shows have a tournament play out over months of TV, with no real pay off and then switch the roles of the people from the initial stories alignment. That's not clever, there is zero thought put into that and zero pay off. Their stories all follow 1 of these 3 formats.</p><p> </p><p> Format #1: Champion vs. Contender... Contender turns heel to win title by nefarious means. Example; Jeff Hardy, Magnus, Mr. Anderson, Bully Ray, Bobby Roode and Matt Hardy all turned heel to win the belt.</p><p> </p><p> Format #2: 2 guys align to fight off the heels... 1 guy turns on his partner and joins the heels.</p><p> </p><p> Format #3: Tournament for [Enter Newly Vacated Title]</p><p> </p><p> That (in my opinion from watching recent Impact episodes) is the depth of TNA's booking.</p>
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He tried to take legal action for Joker Sting because of the facepaint, but the gimmick was so different he couldn't do anything.

 


He also believes Tommy Mercer's "Crimson" name was a blatant insult to him because of his issues with the company over the years.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He tried to take legal action for Joker Sting because of the facepaint, but the gimmick was so different he couldn't do anything.<p> </p><p> He also believes Tommy Mercer's "Crimson" name was a blatant insult to him because of his issues with the company over the years.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thats right thats what it was, wrestling can be a hard place sometimes man.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Isn't Krimson like a direct rip off of the Dark Knight era Joker? Seems like a bit of a tool to be sending a cease and desist over the gimmick.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you don't follow the character, yeah it seems like a rip off of DK Joker, but it's so much more. He has a great character. The Decay also comes across like a knock off of his Dead Wrestling Society. I doubt anything will come of the legal case.</p><p> </p><p> He's had issues with TNA for years though.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you don't follow the character, yeah it seems like a rip off of DK Joker, but it's so much more. He has a great character. The Decay also comes across like a knock off of his Dead Wrestling Society. I doubt anything will come of the legal case.<p> </p><p> He's had issues with TNA for years though.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> To be fair he might just be a bit bitter.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Independent wrestler Krimson(formerly known as Conrad Kennedy III) is taking legal action against Impact Wrestling in regards to The Decay/Crazzy Steve. He talked to his lawyer this week and and a cease & desist order has been sent there way.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> just saw this guy live last month at an indy show. The guy really did rip off his facepaint</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The_CoC" data-cite="The_CoC" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To be fair he might just be a bit bitter.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh yes, there have been many issues reported against TNA, but nah...people are all just bitter.</p>
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