Carparama Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I recently found the site for the TEW CornellVerse, and with becoming obsessed with the WMMA version, I was wondering if there are any plans to flesh out some back story. It's really exciting to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falling_star Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Would love to see some of the backstory/fight histories re-implemented as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestruck420 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Yeah I wish there were more back stories with both games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I doubt there will ever be any updates on that. It would basically involve Adam booking every fight to have ever happened in the existence of Cornellverse MMA to get it near being accurate and I know he's got no interest in doing that. It would be a huge undertaking for something that is little more than historical fluff... and would probably need hundreds of total cans to be added to the database to balance out the collective win/loss records of the gameworld, which is another thing that Adam probably wouldn't care much about doing. Especially not when he can use those renders to add useful characters and expand the gameworld in better ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 If it was to happen, I think you'd have to limit it to just the big promotions to get a credible backstory for some of the bigger fighters. Even just re-creating every GAMMA and ALPHA-1 card would be a huge undertaking, but if there was input from a variety of forum members it could very well be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Just out of interest's sake, I had a go at a few of GAMMA's past pay-per-views based pretty much off the respective UFC events: GAMMA 41 Main Card *GAMMA Heavyweight Championship: Tim Boyer © vs. James Foster Foster wins by TKO (punches) at 4:31 of Round 2 *Heavyweight Bout: Raul Hughes vs. Tony McCall Hughes wins by by unanimous decision. All 3 judges scored the bout 30-27. *GAMMA Light Heavyweight Championship: Zvonimir Asanovic © vs. Jethro Munter Asanovic wins by KO (head kick) at 3:26 of Round 1 *Middleweight Bout: Carl Ratcliffe vs. J.J. Reid Reid wins by submission (armbar) at 3:45 of Round 3 *Lightweight Bout: Bud Brockett vs. Duane Weatherly Brockett wins by unanimous decision. The judges scored the bout 29-28, 29-28, 30-27. Preliminary Card *Lightweight Bout: Tarcisio Dantas vs. Joel Adams Dantas wins by unanimous decision. All 3 judges scored the bout 30-27. *Welterweight Bout: Callum Henson vs. Deacon Strawford Henson wins by unanimous decision. All 3 judges scored the bout 30-27. *Lightweight Bout: Aaron McBroom vs. Juan Pablo Rique McBroom wins by unanimous decision. All 3 judges scored the bout 30-27. GAMMA 40 Main Card *GAMMA Middleweight Championship: Stuart Strange © vs. Neil Napier Napier wins by unanimous decision. The judges scored the bout 48-47, 48-47, 49-46. *Light Heavyweight Bout: Roberto Aldez vs. Mike Watson Watson wins by KO (punch) at 0:26 in Round 3. *GAMMA Welterweight Championship: Julio Regueiro © vs. Charles Stiles Regueiro wins by unanimous decision. The judges scored the bout 49-46, 49-46, 50-45. *Welterweight Bout: Joe Hinchcliffe vs. Jack Humphreys Humphreys wins by TKO (punches) at 2:53 in Round 1. *Welterweight Bout: Darin Blood vs. Dan Halvorsen Blood wins by unanimous decision. All 3 judges scored the fight 30-27. Preliminary Card *Heavyweight Bout: Oscar Gomez vs. Tank Manu'a Manu'a wins by TKO (punches) at 3:39 in Round 2. *Light Heavyweight Bout: Vincent Chaplin vs. Kendall Tracey Tracey wins by TKO (punches) at 3:15 in Round 1. *Lightweight Bout: Peter Bracewell vs. Jackson Gray Gray wins by split decision. The judges scored the bout 29-28 (Bracewell), 29-28 (Gray), 29-28 (Gray). GAMMA 39: Towering Heights Main Card *GAMMA Heavyweight Championship: James Foster © vs. Tim Boyer Boyer wins by KO (punch) at 3:36 in Round 2. *Heavyweight Bout: Raul Hughes vs. Norbert Vinkus Hughes wins by KO (punches) at 4:29 in Round 1. *Lightweight Championship Bout: Sean Morrison © vs. Giovani Silva Morrison wins by TKO (elbows) at 2:52 in Round 1. *Heavyweight Bout: Tony McCall vs. Marvin Stevens McCall wins by unanimous decision. All 3 judges scored the fight 29-28. *Middleweight Bout: Mac Fuller vs. Buddy Garner Garner wins by submission (armbar) at 2:03 in Round 1. *Light Heavyweight Bout: Anthony LeToussier vs. Bryan van den Hauwe LeToussier wins by KO (punch) at 0:24 in Round 3. Preliminary Card *Middleweight Bout: Maarten de Vries vs. Bradley Dixon de Vries wins by unanimous decision. All 3 judges scored the fight 30-27. *Lightweight Bout: Gustavo Bautista vs. Bruce Steven Steven wins by submission (rear naked choke) at 4:47 in Round 3. I think the main problem is that some of the divisions are very bare, and trying to stay true to the past records. That becomes almost impossible as some divisions everyone seems to be coming off a win. Also I ignored the last title defences because I seriously doubt GAMMA would be running one event a month at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falling_star Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I doubt there will ever be any updates on that. It would basically involve Adam booking every fight to have ever happened in the existence of Cornellverse MMA to get it near being accurate and I know he's got no interest in doing that. It would be a huge undertaking for something that is little more than historical fluff... and would probably need hundreds of total cans to be added to the database to balance out the collective win/loss records of the gameworld, which is another thing that Adam probably wouldn't care much about doing. Especially not when he can use those renders to add useful characters and expand the gameworld in better ways. I hadn't really considered all of the character additions and such that would need to go along with adding that kind of data (I was kind of ass about it on the boards when WMMA2 came out because it irritated me a lot). Surely, though, with a much better base for the world to evolve from if/when WMMA3 is released it would be possible to spend time adding main events, historical matches, and title matches/title histories to the data? It makes the game feel much more immersive to me. . . who are former champions, and how are they fairing today? What talent used to headline shows, and where are they now? It would also be possible to try and put on a rematch of an old main event from, say, GAMMA as a smaller promotion to try and spike attendance; or promote a rematch of a big fight (like one that ended in a close decision, thus the rematch is promoted as a match to settle the score, etc.). Thanks to derek_b I have a much better understanding of why histories aren't in WMMA2; playing with the default data now is much more 'stable' (for lack of a better word) than it was in WMMA1 and after giving it several goes, I'm enjoying WMMA2 a lot. Perhaps others disagree, but I really would love to see some of this work done for WMMA3 (again, assuming there will be a WMMA3), though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grits207 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I put in a bunch of fight histories myself, including most of the ones that were in the WMMA 1 database. I didn't do them for every fighter, mainly just the stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedew Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I put in a bunch of fight histories myself, including most of the ones that were in the WMMA 1 database. I didn't do them for every fighter, mainly just the stars. Care to share your additions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capelli King Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 this is actually one of the things i would love most in a WMMA3, i feel that is where it lacks in comparison to TEW (which also was bare to begin with) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falling_star Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I put in a bunch of fight histories myself, including most of the ones that were in the WMMA 1 database. I didn't do them for every fighter, mainly just the stars. The only problem with that is that the world was completely changed. . . some of the people who were stars in WMMA, are just rookies or aging veterans in WMMA2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill2169 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I am actually working on a complete fighter history but did not want to mention it until I was ready to release a beta version. At its present stage I have added about 50 fighters that all debut in January of 82 to coincide with the debut of Manol Sirakov. All fighter records will be different than what they currently are as I have found that will be easier than trying to recreate a record of 64 - 33 for instance. If there is a decent response here over the course of the day I will create a topic in the mod forum for updates, questions, and comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoNdOn Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I am actually working on a complete fighter history but did not want to mention it until I was ready to release a beta version. At its present stage I have added about 50 fighters that all debut in January of 82 to coincide with the debut of Manol Sirakov. All fighter records will be different than what they currently are as I have found that will be easier than trying to recreate a record of 64 - 33 for instance. If there is a decent response here over the course of the day I will create a topic in the mod forum for updates, questions, and comments. sounds intreguing buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I am actually working on a complete fighter history but did not want to mention it until I was ready to release a beta version. At its present stage I have added about 50 fighters that all debut in January of 82 to coincide with the debut of Manol Sirakov. All fighter records will be different than what they currently are as I have found that will be easier than trying to recreate a record of 64 - 33 for instance. If there is a decent response here over the course of the day I will create a topic in the mod forum for updates, questions, and comments. Really interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prw18 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 This would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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