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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Still hated the ending of ME3 and it ruined the entire series for me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, I'm with you.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah, I'm with you.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> But, why ? I don't understand people who dislike the ending. Especially when you know your Shepard was indoctrinated, changing the ending was just "fan service"</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Celuwyn" data-cite="Celuwyn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>But, why ? I don't understand people who dislike the ending. Especially when you know your Shepard was indoctrinated, changing the ending was just "fan service"</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ok somebody asked now here goes.....it was established that if a Mass Relay explodes then that whole star system it was contained in blows up with it. That was established in the DLC of ME2. So when you see all those Mass Relays blow up in chain reaction that entire Mass Effect universe should have blown up with it.</p><p> </p><p> There is some videos I would like to present that relays my feelings exactly.....</p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/7MlatxLP-xs?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Mass Effect 3 Ending: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/tJ5qPIcuMZA?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="The Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination Theory: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/2NNUImNL9Ok?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="TUN: Extended Complaining (spoilers)"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/jT_x64921ls?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage: Additional Clarity and Closure"></iframe></div></div>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ok somebody asked now here goes.....it was established that if a Mass Relay explodes then that whole star system it was contained in blows up with it. That was established in the DLC of ME2. So when you see all those Mass Relays blow up in chain reaction that entire Mass Effect universe should have blown up with it.<p> </p><p> There is some videos I would like to present that relays my feelings exactly.....</p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/7MlatxLP-xs?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Mass Effect 3 Ending: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/tJ5qPIcuMZA?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="The Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination Theory: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage (SPOILERS)"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/2NNUImNL9Ok?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="TUN: Extended Complaining (spoilers)"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/jT_x64921ls?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage: Additional Clarity and Closure"></iframe></div></div></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Man, it's just a game. The power of the explosion of a relay can be contained by a magical force that the crucible launch <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<p>I barely played Mass Effect 3.</p><p> </p><p>

Now it could be that I was still annoyed that my run through Mass Effect 2 where I had got all the upgrades, made everyone loyal and lost a crew member to a random shot to the head. The fact that there is a flow chart made about how to survive it means that to have an achievement for everyone surviving is just annoying.</p><p> </p><p>

It could be that I was late to get Mass Effect 3 and heard that the ending was terrible.</p><p> </p><p>

Either way, I barely got off Earth before I stopped playing</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Clarity" data-cite="Clarity" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I barely played Mass Effect 3.<p> </p><p> Now it could be that I was still annoyed that my run through Mass Effect 2 where I had got all the upgrades, made everyone loyal and lost a crew member to a random shot to the head. The fact that there is a flow chart made about how to survive it means that to have an achievement for everyone surviving is just annoying.</p><p> </p><p> It could be that I was late to get Mass Effect 3 and heard that the ending was terrible.</p><p> </p><p> Either way, I barely got off Earth before I stopped playing</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Didn't even get the disc out of the case. It's still sitting in a box somewhere (probably with my 360). I picked it up for £10 a couple of years ago but after hearing about the terrible ending it didn't motivate me to want to play it. I probably won't get Andromeda because to be honest, I wasn't a fan of Biowares attempt at the previous Dragon Age either. Started good but then just became boring. </p><p> </p><p> I'm falling behind again on my gameplay. Bought so many games in the sales and the free to download XBLive games - not to mention games for Christmas that I have around 20 games (on Xbox One alone) I've not even started yet and about 10 on PC... hopefully I have time before State of decay 2 comes out (like I said, I never tire of Zombie Survival!)</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Celuwyn" data-cite="Celuwyn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Man, it's just a game. The power of the explosion of a relay can be contained by a magical force that the crucible launch <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ......For a series that was such driven on details as that one it was funny how they expect all of the players to fill in the gaps at the end. For a story that was so perfectly written no matter what path you chose they undo almost all of it in the final 10 minutes by throwing out the Narrative Cohesion. At the end of 2 they tell you if a Mass Relay explodes then bye bye star system. So when all of them explode they were contained by.....a magical force....sure.</p><p> </p><p> Ok lets ignore exploding mass relays and say that was the function of the Citadel was built for this one day when somebody would collapse in front of that one panel that lifts you up to the Citadel Kid's domain. You mean to tell me that the Citadel was built by all these races millions of years ago with 3 fail safes attached to them? That seems a bit far fetched huh? </p><p> </p><p> So let's say you choose to "Control" the Reapers. You put your hands on these two levers and are absorbed in a blue light. You die for some reason and that gives you the ability to control them? How do you control them when you are dead? That makes no sense. How do you have free will when you are dead?</p><p> </p><p> So let's say you choose to blow up the Citadel and in turn that will kill all of the Synthetics. Shepard is told that he has so many implants he is part Synthetic himself and this would be suicide. Sure that sounds dumb but lets roll with that....so the Quarians suits are synthetic as well so does that mean that they all died as well? Any person that has Military Implants in their body would be dead. Hell anyone with prosthetic limbs would be dead. And why is there no switch on the damn thing? Why would they design this part of the fail safe for you to shoot it? Was it designed by Michael Bay? And why would Shepard walk toward the exploding tube continuing to shoot it? He could easily stand back at a safe distance and have a possibility of living.</p><p> </p><p> Finally we arrive at our green ending. Where it is designed for a person to jump into a beam of light and sacrificing himself to make all organisms synthetic and all synthetics organic. Why do all of these fail safes require Suicide?</p><p> </p><p> For 3 games you are built up to stop the reapers only to do Citadel Kid's bidding? The Bioware team learned nothing from the lesson The Matrix had taught us in storytelling. You don't introduce an antagonist (or rather a protagonist disguised as an antagonist) in the final bit of the plot and have it all go according to this character's plans and your audience be fine with it.</p><p> </p><p> If they are insistent on Killing off Shepard which it is obvious they are then they should have thrown out this dumb concept of choice altogether for the ending. It would have made way more sense then to not even have the stupid Citadel Kid there and just have Shepard be pointed to a part where he turns off the Reapers and the facility explodes. There you achieve the goal of Kill the Reapers and not have to deal with the problem of having Shepard in future stories.</p><p> </p><p> You could have just had little cut scenes that reflected your impact on the galaxy without muddying it all up by adding too much unnecessary plot twists.</p>
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The thing is that there was another ending at the beginning, with the dark matter (there was a mission with Tali about that) and the reapers were doing a thing related to that, but IF I recall correctly, Bioware was under pressure from the publisher and they change everything at the last minute. I think it's also that, the script of the real ending can be found on the net. (Don't know if there was another thing after, the ending of ME3 was good for me, I didn't dig after that)
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Celuwyn" data-cite="Celuwyn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The thing is that there was another ending at the beginning, with the dark matter (there was a mission with Tali about that) and the reapers were doing a thing related to that, but IF I recall correctly, Bioware was under pressure from the publisher and they change everything at the last minute. I think it's also that, the script of the real ending can be found on the net. (Don't know if there was another thing after, the ending of ME3 was good for me, I didn't dig after that)</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> And EA's involvement is what contributed to them being named the worst company in the United States for 2 years in a row. It also didn't help that the lead writer and a EA executive wrote the ending separate from the rest of the staff. It really reflected because they did not have anyone to question how much sense the endings would make and had their blinders on. If they had that same focus group on the ending as well they very well could have made that work.</p>
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<p>Now don't get ME started on EA... Let's not make this a rant thread. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

In short: EA has done some ok things lately, which is logical as a big company like that eventually attracts competent people, but given their resources and power I'm surprised that this is it. If it's true that they've meddled with Bioware's narratives than they are truly foul-minded individuals. <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Same here. The first installment is so far behind compared to 2 and 3 in terms of gameplay and gfx that you're just better off not playing it. You could always check the cutscenes on youtube. If anything, the story is only a prelude anyway.<p> </p><p> Same thing with the Witcher btw. <strong>With Bioshock, it's the complete opposite, with 1 and 2 being very nice, and 3 being... well... quite the combobreaker (imo).</strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I thought Bioshock Infinite was incredible. I'd even consider it for my Top Ten games of all time.</p><p> </p><p> Dead Space 3 was a massive let down though. 1 and 2 were insanely fun and actually had some good jump scares throughout. The downplay of Horror and the Action-fueled gameplay of 3 was just bleh. Such a giant step down in quality.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><long rant on ME3></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm fully behind your reasoning and judgement of the situation. Horrible all around.</p><p> </p><p> And it's such a shame. Up untill the last 15 or so minutes of ME3, Mass Effect was perhaps the greatest RPG video game series of all time overall. But that was all thrown out of the window with <em>The Space Kid</em> and all that followed...</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I thought Bioshock Infinite was incredible. I'd even consider it for my Top Ten games of all time.<p> </p><p> Dead Space 3 was a massive let down though. 1 and 2 were insanely fun and actually had some good jump scares throughout. The downplay of Horror and the Action-fueled gameplay of 3 was just bleh. Such a giant step down in quality.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Can I jump in at Infinite or is it better if I play the first two Bioshock games first?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smurphy1014" data-cite="smurphy1014" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can I jump in at Infinite or is it better if I play the first two Bioshock games first?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's the problem imo: you can jump in just fine. I wasn't implying that it was a bad game (not by a longshot). The 'problem' is that it's a completely different thing. Different art style, different story, different experience. There is a narrative link somewhere, but I lost my interest very quickly. I bore through it because the gameplay was good and the gfx were good, but I was gravely disappointed.</p><p> </p><p> I heartily recommend the first two games. They recently had a HD overhaul so no reason to skip them.</p><p> </p><p> As for Mass Effect 3: I still haven't seen the extended ending. So even that does not satisfy you? (though I have no idea what changes. Do they just explain)</p><p> </p><p> I've been watching the Jimquisition on youtube lately. Some guy made a "best of"-video with hilarious fragments of him playing really sh/tty games. A good watch. I had some big laughs.</p>
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<p>I miss EA from the 90s.</p><p> </p><p>

In my opinion Madden '95 (the GENESIS version, foo'! yes, I played both the Genesis and SNES versions, and the Genesis one just had something the SNES one seemed to be missing) was and is perhaps the best and most fun (hey, remember when football games were FUN?) American Football game OF ALL TIME.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's the problem imo: you can jump in just fine. I wasn't implying that it was a bad game (not by a longshot). The 'problem' is that it's a completely different thing. Different art style, different story, different experience. There is a narrative link somewhere, but I lost my interest very quickly. I bore through it because the gameplay was good and the gfx were good, but I was gravely disappointed.<p> </p><p> I heartily recommend the first two games. They recently had a HD overhaul so no reason to skip them.</p><p> </p><p> As for Mass Effect 3: I still haven't seen the extended ending. So even that does not satisfy you? (though I have no idea what changes. Do they just explain)</p><p> </p><p> I've been watching the Jimquisition on youtube lately. Some guy made a "best of"-video with hilarious fragments of him playing really sh/tty games. A good watch. I had some big laughs.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Then the problems lie with your expectations. The game was never advertised as a part of the Rapture series or even as Bioshock 3. Infinite was simply a complimentary story that in my opinion blew the main storyline out of the water. The voice acting was superb, but then again Troy Baker was the star and he's near perfect on most of his roles.</p><p> </p><p> Everyone has different opinions though.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Then the problems lie with your expectations</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sure, it wasn't advertised as Bioshock III, but the name of the game is bound to trigger some expectations. Excuse me for being a man of logic. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Mass Effect: Andromeda isn't announced as Mass Effect 4 (why would they after the backlash resulting from the previous title), but I'd be offended if the game brought a significantly different experience, different lore and a different graphical style. You can guess from the trailer that it probably won't. I'm not saying Bioshock Infinite completely broke with the lore, but I couldn't tie the story-line together. This could be my 'fault' as I might not have tried hard enough, but the game didn't intrigue me as much as the first ones did.</p><p> </p><p> Again, this is my preference. I was totally fine with Zelda: Wind Waker, for instance - which had different gfx - but only after playing it. At first I was skeptical, but I was so thirsty for a Zelda game that I bought it day 1 anyway.</p><p> </p><p> And I honestly don't miss anything from EA. Though I guess I miss some support now for the features in their recent games that don't work.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sure, it wasn't advertised as Bioshock III, but the name of the game is bound to trigger some expectations. Excuse me for being a man of logic. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"> Mass Effect: Andromeda isn't announced as Mass Effect 4 (why would they after the backlash resulting from the previous title), but I'd be offended if the game brought a significantly different experience, different lore and a different graphical style. You can guess from the trailer that it probably won't. I'm not saying Bioshock Infinite completely broke with the lore, but I couldn't tie the story-line together. This could be my 'fault' as I might not have tried hard enough, but the game didn't intrigue me as much as the first ones did.<p> </p><p> Again, this is my preference. I was totally fine with Zelda: Wind Waker, for instance - which had different gfx - but only after playing it. At first I was skeptical, but I was so thirsty for a Zelda game that I bought it day 1 anyway.</p><p> </p><p> And I honestly don't miss anything from EA. Though I guess I miss some support now for the features in their recent games that don't work.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> You must truly despite Final Fantasy then.</p>
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<p>Lads, I just spent an hour with Resident Evil: Biohazard and it is shaping up to be spectacular. As someone who is not a fan of this series (played 1 and 2 briefly and thats all) I am loving what I've seen of it so far</p><p> </p><p>

It is seriously spooky and (minor spoilers ahead here) given the chainsawy nature of some of the action in the first hour it's definitely not one for the faint of heart. I'd recommend it to any fans of atmospheric horror based on the little time I've spent with it, I just hope it stays the course and doesn't descend into schlocky madness like Evil Within (from reviews I assume that isn't the case)</p><p> </p><p>

How anybody would actually get through this game in VR is beyond me</p>

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Oh god I think i'm addicted.

 

Still playing Elite Dangerous and last night had one of my happiest gaming moments ever.

 

I was jumping through sectors scanning planets as its a nice easy way to make money and I needed to bump up my Explorer rank. I was about 3 hours into the black when I suddenly notice an undiscovered planet (Elite has a persistent universe MMO style).

 

I fling my Cobra Mk3 over and land on the planet. Yeah, its a complete garbage browny ice planet, but I was the first person EVER on it.

 

I take back off, and set a course for the nearest station, as I needed to upload and sell my map data to actually claim the planet.

 

As I get closer and closer to populated space, I start seeing other players, bricking it as they could decide to kill me and i'd lose hours of work (which happened when I trucked across the galaxy delivering meta-alloys for a frame-shift engineer)

 

I enter the system, someone tries to interdict me (pull you out of hyperspeed), I get away and land at the station..

 

Ding.. planet is mine

 

 

And anyone that goes to that planet in the future will see my name next to it.

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You must truly despise Final Fantasy then.

 

I stopped caring about that franchise when it hit PSX, so I couldn't care less what its current state is. I might play the remake of VII if it ever gets released.

 

I'm not going to dig into RE7 yet, as it's too much of a change of heart. Because of the free Xbox Live Gold month (well, 1$) I tried Outlast which is also an atmospheric horror game and really... to hell with that. I'm not built for jump scares. :p

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I stopped caring about that franchise when it hit PSX, so I couldn't care less what its current state is. I might play the remake of VII if it ever gets released.</div></blockquote><p> I'm kind of in the same boat right now, though I remained a fan of the series a lot later than you did. I was a HUGE Final Fantasy fan growing up. It was my favorite series for sure, starting with playing IV on the SNES when my dad's friend picked it up at a flea market for like $5. VI might still be my favorite game ever, and I stayed with it through the end of the PS2 era, though I never did finish VIII. XII blew my mind for the first 20-30 hours probably only to really fall apart at the end. I bought XIII not long after it came out and played it for probably 15-20 hours before getting bored with it. That's when I started playing Dragon Age: Origins, and I've basically never looked back. I don't know if the quality of their games has dropped or if my tastes have just changed as I've gotten older, but games like Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Witcher are what really capture my attention these days.</p>
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