juggaloninjalee Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 So I have been a nerd lately. Playing role playing games D&D 2nd Edition, and Heroes Unlimited by Palladium Books. This has gotten me interested to play an RPG console game. So a few days ago I was searching online for the best games and came across this one. I watched some reviews and found out how in depth it was. The amount that there is to this game sold me on it. I told my gf about it and she was interested too. We are both going to play the game individually. Me as a human fighter and her as an elf thief. We purchased the game last night and will start playing tonight. Anyone ever play this game? If so how much did you like it? PLEASE DON'T POST ANY SPOILERS FOR THIS GAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I liked it, but the polish is... well, not good. It's a diamond in the rough. Most of the DLC isn't so good, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonmack Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I enjoyed it quite a bit, although I didn't play half of the DLC stuff. However, like Mass effect 2, the next installment will play somewhat differently than it's predecessor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I enjoyed it quite a bit, although I didn't play half of the DLC stuff. However, like Mass effect 2, the next installment will play somewhat differently than it's predecessor. Actually, the Mass Effect series is a lot less deeper, but also a lot more polished. It's a better game overall, even if the side stories aren't interesting at all - it's the main story. I didn't like the first Mass Effect, though. The second one was WAY better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 I got the DLC for free so I will give it a shot. First time playing the game I will do it on EASY. 2nd time thru I will play on normal unless I decide to just buy Dragon Age 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarity Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30423" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I got the DLC for free so I will give it a shot. First time playing the game I will do it on EASY. 2nd time thru I will play on normal unless I decide to just buy Dragon Age 2.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Dont go expecting a sprawling epic.. Dragon Age's main storyline is really short</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Clarity" data-cite="Clarity" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30423" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dont go expecting a sprawling epic.. Dragon Age's main storyline is really short</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> With the DLC also though I figure I could put in 60 hours of gameplay before having everything done right?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonmack Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30423" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Actually, the Mass Effect series is a lot less deeper, but also a lot more polished. It's a better game overall, even if the side stories aren't interesting at all - it's the main story. <p> </p><p> I didn't like the first Mass Effect, though. The second one was WAY better.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I actually meant the gameplay. ME1 played more like a hybrid of fps and turn interrupt, whereas ME2 definitely felt far more FPS to me. And yeah, in the first one, the side missions were pretty much land somewhere, have the tank shoot up some stuff, and storm a building, killing a bunch of pirates, smugglers, droids, synthetic,etc and then minigame the loot boxes. The main storyline was what held the attention.</p><p> </p><p> I do think Dragon Age did the support characters a little better overall. I felt there were more changes and options overall with them than with the ME support characters.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GruntMark Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 <p>I think...</p><p> </p><p> ME2s characters edged out DAOs. ME2 is ALL about the support characters, they almost all get two main missions dedicated to them. DAO characters get...varying degrees of the spotlight.</p><p> </p><p> Both are better than MEs, which has two real characters (Kaiden and Ashley) and four codex entries posing as characters. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> A compete run through of DAO took me about 50 hours. So plenty of game there, and most of it is really good, if a bit cliched.</p><p> </p><p> The biggest knock is its kind of an ugly game. But if you've started it up, you've no doubt figured that out.</p><p> </p><p> Second would be, its wildly unbalanced. Playing as a mage can make it like effectively playing a level or two easier than using a rogue or warrior.</p><p> </p><p> And remember, you can always change difficulty at any point, so you dont have to stick with one, cause fights at any difficulty will randomly swing from OMGWTFHARD to rolling over them like they are girl scout troop 202.</p><p> </p><p> Unless you are a mage. In which case set spells to pwn.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GruntMark Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 <p>The one downside of being a mage...</p><p> </p><p> Every hat you wear will make you look incredibly stupid.</p><p> </p><p> Fortunatly, the other characters are clearly too scared of you to call you on it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dragonmack" data-cite="Dragonmack" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30423" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I actually meant the gameplay. ME1 played more like a hybrid of fps and turn interrupt, whereas ME2 definitely felt far more FPS to me. And yeah, in the first one, the side missions were pretty much land somewhere, have the tank shoot up some stuff, and storm a building, killing a bunch of pirates, smugglers, droids, synthetic,etc and then minigame the loot boxes. The main storyline was what held the attention.<p> </p><p> I do think Dragon Age did the support characters a little better overall. I felt there were more changes and options overall with them than with the ME support characters.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Of course, Dragon Age's story is better... in fact, MUCH better. But as an overall game, it lacked a lot of of polish. Awakening was definitely unfinished, buggy, AND unpolished. The DLC, even worse. Mass Effect 1 was... sort of boring and cliche. I have no idea why people rank it as high as it is... Mass Effect 2 is just epic, though. Fun, too. Most of the DLC is blah (save the companion DLC's and the... well, you know, DLC), and I liked the characters, even if they were a bit more simple when compared to Dragon Age characters. </p><p> </p><p> I'm not going get DA2, though. Just not interested.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GruntMark Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 <p>ME1...from Feros to the end of the game is pretty excellent.</p><p> </p><p> Both ME1 and DAO suffer a bit I think for following Bioware's typical formula of</p><p> </p><p> Start -> Visit 4 places in any order to collect plot coupons -> End Game</p><p> </p><p> Which gets a bit predictable.</p><p> </p><p> Of course, they shuffled it up in ME2 and people compained about the pacing, so who knows. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> ME3 will probably be back to the formula. In fact, it'll probably be DAO in the ME universe.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30423" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Mass Effect 1 was... sort of boring and cliche. I have no idea why people rank it as high as it is... Mass Effect 2 is just epic, though. Fun, too. Most of the DLC is blah (save the companion DLC's and the... well, you know, DLC), and I liked the characters, even if they were a bit more simple when compared to Dragon Age characters. </div></blockquote><p> I didn't think ME1 was boring at all--well, aside from the incredibly repetitive sidequests. I think the story in general of ME1 was superior to its sequel, though ME2 did do a much better job making the rest of the squad feel important. The improved gameplay in ME2 probably puts it just ahead of the original in my eyes, but I absolutely loved both games. Easily my favorite games of this generation of consoles.</p><p> </p><p> Origins was a lot of fun, too. Not quite as good as the ME games in my eyes, but I still enjoyed it a lot. I think ampulator's "lack of polish" comment is very fitting. Also, it followed the same basic formula as ME1, as already mentioned. ME1 was my first BioWare game, so I didn't have any previous experience to compare it to, but I certainly saw the formula when playing through DAO. I liked that they switched things up with ME2, and based on what little I've read, it seems like they've done the same with DA2. Hopefully they'll continue that trend with ME3.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30423" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I didn't think ME1 was boring at all--well, aside from the incredibly repetitive sidequests. I think the story in general of ME1 was superior to its sequel, though ME2 did do a much better job making the rest of the squad feel important. The improved gameplay in ME2 probably puts it just ahead of the original in my eyes, but I absolutely loved both games. Easily my favorite games of this generation of consoles.<p> </p><p> Origins was a lot of fun, too. Not quite as good as the ME games in my eyes, but I still enjoyed it a lot. I think ampulator's "lack of polish" comment is very fitting. Also, it followed the same basic formula as ME1, as already mentioned. ME1 was my first BioWare game, so I didn't have any previous experience to compare it to, but I certainly saw the formula when playing through DAO. I liked that they switched things up with ME2, and based on what little I've read, it seems like they've done the same with DA2. Hopefully they'll continue that trend with ME3.</p></div></blockquote><p> I should be more clear... it was a bit boring BECAUSE it was cliche and typical. The gameplay wasn't all that interesting, the storyline was run-of-the-mill... it wasn't a bad game at all, though. It was a just very typical run-of-the-mill, polished good game. As good as it was, it wasn't great, and it certainly was cliche and typical. As for DAO, it was following the old-style formula of RPG's. Probably the last of its breed, if DA2 is any indication. As much as hate to see it go, it is what it is. </p><p> </p><p> I'm only waiting for two things: Mass Effect 3, and a pipe dream of an Obisidian-Entertainment-based Mass Effect game.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 I am really liking this game. Played up to the point where I am supposed to enter the Wilds, and then do my Ritual to be a GW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 <p>I honestly don't know what the heck ampulator is talking about.</p><p> </p><p> Quick: name an RPG or RPG series that surpasses DAO or Mass Effect in polish or quality. I'll wait.</p><p> </p><p> Not since the heyday of Ultima has there been an RPG of this level of quality. Seriously. When one of the biggest publishers in gaming jumps at the chance to buy a studio specifically because of its RPG reputation for quality but calls buying another studio (with a more mainstream IP) "like trying to catch a falling knife", there must be something there.</p><p> </p><p> You may not like the setting, you may not like the graphics, you may not like the genre, but saying either of these two series (the most successful RPGs in gaming right now. Not even The Elder Scrolls can really compete, except with the modding community) lacks polish is disingenuous and is easily disputed by every metric available. You want designers to reinvent the wheel without realizing that doing so impacts accessibility which impacts the bottom line. If Joe Gamer can't even figure out how to get started in a game or how to proceed from point to point, the game tends to fail. That's why you don't see an abundance of puzzle type mechanics in any mainstream RPGs anymore. Portal is good but Portal isn't in the same solar system as the things Bioware (and Bethesda) produce. And if the formula Bioware uses offends you so much, you might want to skip ME3. I won't spoil the basic plot but while deeper than the previous two games, the script itself isn't revolutionary in theme or scope.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Remianen" data-cite="Remianen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30423" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I honestly don't know what the heck ampulator is talking about.<p> </p><p> Quick: name an RPG or RPG series that surpasses DAO or Mass Effect in polish or quality. I'll wait.</p><p> </p><p> Not since the heyday of Ultima has there been an RPG of this level of quality. Seriously. When one of the biggest publishers in gaming jumps at the chance to buy a studio specifically because of its RPG reputation for quality but calls buying another studio (with a more mainstream IP) "like trying to catch a falling knife", there must be something there.</p><p> </p><p> You may not like the setting, you may not like the graphics, you may not like the genre, but saying either of these two series (the most successful RPGs in gaming right now. Not even The Elder Scrolls can really compete, except with the modding community) lacks polish is disingenuous and is easily disputed by every metric available. You want designers to reinvent the wheel without realizing that doing so impacts accessibility which impacts the bottom line. If Joe Gamer can't even figure out how to get started in a game or how to proceed from point to point, the game tends to fail. That's why you don't see an abundance of puzzle type mechanics in any mainstream RPGs anymore. Portal is good but Portal isn't in the same solar system as the things Bioware (and Bethesda) produce. And if the formula Bioware uses offends you so much, you might want to skip ME3. I won't spoil the basic plot but while deeper than the previous two games, the script itself isn't revolutionary in theme or scope.</p></div></blockquote><p> Hey, hey, don't get your shorts in bunch. I like both series and games. It's just Dragon Age has a great story, good gameplay, but is buggy and unpolished. As for Dragon Age, I played it 3 days a week, starting from 10 in the morning to 10 at night. It was a fun game, but the second one looks like it's going to be nerfed. And no DAO makes ampulator a sad panda. As for Mass Effect, Mass Effect was typical and unrorginal. Good? Yes. But very cliche. Mass Effect 2 was just awesome, though. As a game, it blows the first one out of the water. </p><p> </p><p> I can like something, and recgonize its weaknesses. It is what it is. I list Mass Effect 2 and DAO as some of the my favorite games, along with Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective, and the Phoenix Wright Series.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 <p>Do any of you own the expansion game? If so is it any good?</p><p> </p><p> I really enjoyed the first game (Although I have yet to beat it, but that is a different story and has more to do with me screwing up.), so I was wondering if the expansion game is worth it or not.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 You mean Awakening? Well, it's... well, it's not really finished. It feels like an afterthought and half-baked. The only reason I would get is to get a better load-save for DA2, but since I'm not getting DA2, I haven't finished it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 I am really into this game. Just woke up in the mages house after the tower mission. Not completely sure how to build my human noble fighter because I find myself wanting to do the same with Alistair. Shield and sword combination. Would Alistair be a good 2 handed weapon guy? Great sword for example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GruntMark Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 <p>Yeah, you can probably build Alistair to be a two handed weapon user. Because he starts with talents invested in Sword & Shield, he'll never be as complete at it as a warrior that starts with them in the two handed weapon talents, but he'll be competent enough. Especially if you arent playing on one of the difficulties that really demands perfection.</p><p> </p><p> But if you want Alistair in the party (and he is pretty amusing, probably my favorite Warrior party member), and want to be a sword and shield guy yourself, thats the way to go. Two guys with shields would probably be a bit redundant.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="GruntMark" data-cite="GruntMark" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30423" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah, you can probably build Alistair to be a two handed weapon user. Because he starts with talents invested in Sword & Shield, he'll never be as complete at it as a warrior that starts with them in the two handed weapon talents, but he'll be competent enough. Especially if you arent playing on one of the difficulties that really demands perfection.<p> </p><p> But if you want Alistair in the party (and he is pretty amusing, probably my favorite Warrior party member), and want to be a sword and shield guy yourself, thats the way to go. Two guys with shields would probably be a bit redundant.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's what I am thinking. Should I add a mage and thief to my party? If so which ones do you recommend and why?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GruntMark Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30423" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's what I am thinking. Should I add a mage and thief to my party? If so which ones do you recommend and why?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Rogues arent THAT great in DAO. You can get by without one for actually like...fighting. They are the only ones who can unlock chests and disarm traps, so thats handy. If so, go with Leliana...as an archer she stays out of the way and doesnt have to be standing anywhere in particular to shoot arrows. Also, her party buffs are nice and help excuse her substandard damage. </p><p> </p><p> Dagger rogues have to backstab and the AI is incompenent at doing it on its own, so unless you want to switch to the rogue all the time in combat to position them....yeah...its a PITA. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Mages are the best. Both the ones you can recruit are great. Obviously, you've met Morrigan. She can Cone of Cold her way to alot of victories.</p><p> </p><p> The other, is a fairly awesome character, but more of a healer. You might be able to get by with Morrigan, if you take the basic heal on her, for that duty. Especially if you arent playing up on hard or nightmare. Either way, you really cant go wrong having either or both in the party.</p><p> </p><p> I did find Morrigans various animal forms to be mostly useless, so you could save some points there for more helpful spells. Unless you've already bought them. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GruntMark Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 <p>Oh hey, one last note!</p><p> </p><p> In DAO, there was some kind of bug with Rogues and dexterity. Thats why they lag behind everyone else in damage. I know if was fixed for Awakening (where dagger rogues are formidable, and archers maybe overpowered) but I dont know if it was ever patched into Origins.</p><p> </p><p> So my opinions may actually be out of date on the subject.</p><p> </p><p> If nothing else, I drug Leliana around cause she has the best voice/accent.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="GruntMark" data-cite="GruntMark" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30423" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh hey, one last note!<p> </p><p> In DAO, there was some kind of bug with Rogues and dexterity. Thats why they lag behind everyone else in damage. I know if was fixed for Awakening (where dagger rogues are formidable, and archers maybe overpowered) but I dont know if it was ever patched into Origins.</p><p> </p><p> So my opinions may actually be out of date on the subject.</p><p> </p><p> If nothing else, I drug Leliana around cause she has the best voice/accent.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Would you ever play with 3 fighters and a mage then?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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