Tomato Can Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I have never instituted drug testing in any of my promotions.. I know I sound like Vince and I am part of the problem not the solution... BUT after the death of Road Warrior Hawk and Bob Orton Jr... Both in the midst of huge pushes.. I decided I need to do something. I decided to start out very slow with the lowest level policy. In a couple of weeks, I have Dino Bravo and Road Warrior Animal busted for steroids, you would think the death of Hawk would have made him rethink it I gave both a last warning and the "said" they would try to "clean" up. Then Hulk Hogan got busted for "Hard Drugs" I gave him a stern warning and it said he "stormed out". It's all being handled "in house" so no public damamge BUT... WOW, cant wait to see what unfolds next.. hehehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-laz- Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 i had the same problem with hogan no matter what i did he always tested positive and in the end he got so pissed at all the fines and stuff that he walked out on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky The Squid Boy Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 80s WWF is a nightmare. Amazingly Hulk's just about the only big name to never let me down (yet). Him, Piper and the Hitman anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Can Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 Just had a very young Sting get busted. He also stormed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 On a related note, does anyone know of a way to make them stop drinking? Since you can't test for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltinho Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31308" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On a related note, does anyone know of a way to make them stop drinking? Since you can't test for it...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not really - apart from the obvious. Ive never had a real booze problem but at one point I had a nasty drinking club that I eliminated by banning drink backstage.</p><p> </p><p> A few of the Aussies in particular were furious but it really helped.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 This is soemthing that seems to keep coming up with the 80s mods. Was Hogan really using drugs backstage? I know he was on steroids for much of the decade, but recreational drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Can Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 <p>AAARRRGGGGHHHH!!</p><p> </p><p> Lost Snuka to a drug death. I was really hoping that instituting a drug policy would stop it but as in real life, it doesn't.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henderson Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 <p>Just about every wrestler in the 80's used recreational drugs, unfortunately. I don't know about other wrestlers' autobiographies, but if you've read Bret Hart's, it puts it into perspective about how bad it was. Coke was by far the drug of choice it seems.</p><p> </p><p> As for wrestlers...I've always used drug testing, just because I want to lower the risk of having a big push end up dead. It's caused a ton of bad relationships though. I did have a surprise with a few. Scott Steiner would repeatedly test positive for 'roids and he would get pissed every time I'd fine him. I'd try a slap on the wrist, riot act, etc. It seemed that nothing would work with him. Finally one time I got sick of it and just ignored it...Well it worked! I got a message saying he was happy that I let him deal with the issue on his own and gave his word he'd clean up. Only time that's worked.</p><p> </p><p> Savage always tests for roids and nothing works on him. Miss Elizabeth tested for hard drugs, I gave her the fatherly approach and she's now loyal to me. Sting + for hard drugs and gave him a last chance...He gave me his word that he'd clean up. Those are about the only ones that stand out. I wish I could find one that works for Savage though.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 This is soemthing that seems to keep coming up with the 80s mods. I'm not sure what 80's mod you're referring to but the only 80's mods I know made in the last 2 years (TGA & NHB) don't have Hogan set to anything but roids. It's the first time I've ever heard of it coming up tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky The Squid Boy Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I've seen a few people mention Hulk doing the drugs in 80s mods but Ive never seen it in either of the mods I have (that'd be your 87 mod, Genadi and the No Holds Barred mod) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwe9112 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Does the drug testing help at all? What do you do just keep fining them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky The Squid Boy Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="wwe9112" data-cite="wwe9112" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31308" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does the drug testing help at all? What do you do just keep fining them?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As a rule of thumb I implement the WWE's own RL strategy. 2 suspensions and a thirds violation sees them future endeavoured. That said Triple H has failed four tests on my WWE file and you <em>know</em> he didn't suffer the same fate as Chavo Guerrero. Eventually he stopped roiding after enough suspensions. </p><p> </p><p> It all depends on a wrestler's personality, though. Some guys need to go deal with their issues privately, some will get clean after a weak punishment. You can get guys to stop the drugs/roids by doing different things. Some guys are nigh impossible to get clean though, no matter what you try (Bryan Vessey, Im looking at you)</p><p> </p><p> Testing does help though - well only if you can get your guys clean as a result. If news of a wrestler's steroid or drug use goes public it can damage your company's prestige (I myself took a big hit after treating Kerry Von Erich's problem with kid gloves only for him to OD on me 2 days later. He survived but his stats and wwf's prestige suffered). At worst if you're not testing/dealing with drug issues any one of your top stars could up and die on you and that's a bad sitch for everyone</p><p> </p><p> Even without bad press or dying or whatever though a guy who's using heavily can see his performance suffer a heck of a lot. Not sure about C-Verse wise but I know a few guys have seen key players in mods like Jake Roberts and mid-90s Shawn Michaels let them down badly because they can't keep a handle on their drug habits</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Savant Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="James Casey" data-cite="James Casey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31308" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is soemthing that seems to keep coming up with the 80s mods. Was Hogan really using drugs backstage? I know he was on steroids for much of the decade, but recreational drugs?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I get the feeling it's been a while since you've partaken in a 1980s Hulk Hogan promo. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.</p><p> </p><p> Good to know Hogan isn't set to be an abuser in the TGA mod... I hadn't checked him out. I'll change that immediately for my own game!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky The Squid Boy Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 For what its worth Ive never heard any mention of Hulk using coke ever. Not even by the Iron Sheik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKnifed72 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Inky The Squid Boy" data-cite="Inky The Squid Boy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31308" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> Even without bad press or dying or whatever though a guy who's using heavily can see his performance suffer a heck of a lot. Not sure about C-Verse wise but I know a few guys have seen key players in mods like <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Jake Roberts</span></strong> and mid-90s Shawn Michaels let them down badly because they can't keep a handle on their drug habits</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> In our multi-player game, Jake is easily scoring a letter grade or more below where he should for angles and matches <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> The only thing keeping him around is...uhm I'm a total Jake The Snake Mark!!!!!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky The Squid Boy Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Yeah I had you very much in mind when I made that post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="JackKnifed72" data-cite="JackKnifed72" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31308" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In our multi-player game, Jake is easily scoring a letter grade or more below where he should for angles and matches <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> The only thing keeping him around is...uhm I'm a total Jake The Snake Mark!!!!!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you get a chance to try V1.1 let me know how bad he's being hit by the penalty now.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 In our multi-player game, Jake is easily scoring a letter grade or more below where he should for angles and matches The only thing keeping him around is...uhm I'm a total Jake The Snake Mark!!!!! Heh yeah sorry, perhaps I overdid drug-use for certain workers... but I can assure you that you're not the only one suffering, with people like Scott Hall, Kevin Nash and Vader, to name a handful, also being severely hit. I might look into tweaking it for the next release of my mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imnotbooked Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 If you get a chance to try V1.1 let me know how bad he's being hit by the penalty now. He still is Gendai. So much so that he actually sits unemployed in almost every game that I sim. Ditto Dick Slater. But Kudos to this mod,man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russo Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 For what its worth Ive never heard any mention of Hulk using coke ever. Not even by the Iron Sheik. Hogan himself has said he did coke in the 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Savant Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Heh yeah sorry, perhaps I overdid drug-use for certain workers... but I can assure you that you're not the only one suffering, with people like Scott Hall, Kevin Nash and Vader, to name a handful, also being severely hit. Yeah. Between Hennig being the highest paid colour commentator in history and Scott Hall being a drug zombie I totally screwed up the top end of my draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky The Squid Boy Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Hogan himself has said he did coke in the 80's Hogan said that? Now I really don't believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Savant Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Hogan himself has said he did coke in the 80's He's just trying to be cool. But seriously. Watch one of the guy's promos or watch him eat his own headband as he walks to the ring. Cocaine is a hell of a drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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