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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Holy smokes! Now I've gotta download and see which of the indie workers from my old Dallas add-on made the cut. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Actually, I just took two of them - as they were on my "to do" list. And I heavily edited them both, due to you having given them stats of a top tier WWE worker. Sorry, bro. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah, so I'll be the pain in the ass who asks what is new in this version... gotta know what I can import into my diary <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> About 40 or so new workers, a bunch of new alter egos, 30 or so new tag teams, some new relationships, etc... not a great deal of added content to be honest - I put most of the work into polishing stats and other stuff.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I actually, I just took two of them - as they were on my "to do" list. And I heavily edited them both, due to you having given them stats of a top tier WWE worker. Sorry, bro. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, that was back before Derek's mod making guide when I was a newbie. <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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I was kinda hoping that this could be the last version of the mod, but I've already found lots of (mostly cosmetic) mistakes I will be fixing. So there'll be at least one more release... let me know if you guys fall over anything that should be fixed/included for that.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was kinda hoping that this could be the last version of the mod, but I've already found lots of (mostly cosmetic) mistakes I will be fixing. So there'll be at least one more release... let me know if you guys fall over anything that should be fixed/included for that.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The never ending pursuit...</p><p> </p><p> You think you are done and then you catch one tiny error that drags you back into looking everything over and you keep finding things to mess with it.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PJ Strong" data-cite="PJ Strong" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As long as it gets perfected thats all that matters <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nothing ever really becomes <em>perfect</em>.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> ...except for this guy, of course:</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/superstar_bio/public/talent/bio/2012/04/curthennig_bio.png</span></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><span>http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1391912775909564338.jpg</span></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! *spins around*</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> *ahem*</p><p> </p><p> Manly...</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nothing ever really becomes <em>perfect</em>.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> ...except for this guy, of course:</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/superstar_bio/public/talent/bio/2012/04/curthennig_bio.png</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Too bad he didn't have the perfect son. That guy is as bland as they come. Whats up with charasmatic wrestlers having boring sons. Bruno, Flair, Perfect, Watts, Gagne, Dibease, etc.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PJ Strong" data-cite="PJ Strong" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Too bad he didn't have the perfect son. That guy is as bland as they come. Whats up with charasmatic wrestlers having boring sons. Bruno, Flair, Perfect, Watts, Gagne, Dibease, etc.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well... I think Joe Hennig could be more than he is, under the right guidance and gimmick. And Reid Flair could perhaps have been interesting, had he not chosen the unfortunate path that he did. I don't think Ted DiBiase Jr. is terrible either. I can definetely see Harry Smith grow into main event material, and let's not forget a guy like Randy Orton surpassing his father greatly. Cody Rhodes seems to be turning out fine as well.</p><p> </p><p> But yeah, none of them will likely ever reach the crazy levels of charisma exhibited in Ric Flair, Ted DiBiase and Curt Hennig. But I also think it was an easier time to shine and grow in the wrestling business in the 80's (and to an extent 90's).</p>
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<p>I agree Cody Rhodes is just now showing the charisma to get somewhere. Of course Dustin had a crazy successful career in multiple places under multiple names. I just don't like Joe's look. The thinning hair and the big bushy beard. He's built more like his grandfather and maybe thats the direction they should have went with him. Ted Jr never really did anything for me. Great look but never really cut a promo I said "thats the guy right there". </p><p> </p><p>

I do agree though now days everything is so controlled and scripted its hard to say who has "it" since they pretty much determine before they ever sign the guy what limitations they're going to put on him. </p><p> </p><p>

Randy and The Rock both exceeded their families previous heights. They are about the only two guys I can think of that went above their previous families legacy. I love the Rhodes brothers but I can't say they're more successful than Dusty. Road Dogg! I forget about him being in the Armstrong family he for sure passed his family up. All of his siblings were glorifed jobbers and I never heard much about Bullet Bob other than he was pretty good but certainly no main event talent on a big stage.</p>

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Ross and Marshall Von Erich, both sons of Kevin, seem to have been doing well in Japan, having wrestled for Pro Wrestling NOAH, and have done work for Harley Race's WLW. Then again, it seems like Japan is better for growing your skills as a wrestler these days.

 

Oooh, never heard of them. Will try to look up matches on youtube.

 

I think the Regal/HHH relationship should be flipped. Regal took HHH under his wing in WCW.

 

A silly mistake, I meant for it to be a friendship. They're right next to each other in the editor. I'll fix it. :o

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Oooh, never heard of them. Will try to look up matches on youtube.

 

From what little I've seen of them, they seem to botch a lot less than their cousin Lacey. :D They have good size and a decent look too. And they seem to have better heads on their shoulder, because as far as I know, they have kept their personal lifestyle habits clean, I'm assuming from having learned the lesson of what happened to their family members. They're pretty religious, too, taking their Bibles with them to read on the bus and on the plane when they're traveling.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was kinda hoping that this could be the last version of the mod, but I've already found lots of (mostly cosmetic) mistakes I will be fixing. So there'll be at least one more release... let me know if you guys fall over anything that should be fixed/included for that.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> First off, let me say I love how complete this mod is... I played my longest game ever taking ECW to 2002 with it. One thing that does take me out of it though, is that a lot of tag teams are not active where they should be. For example Rock n Roll Express, PG-13, and Public Enemy are set to "NONE" for promotion, meaning they are not active when the game starts causing the AI to create a lot of makeshift teams. Not a big deal for the promotion you are running, but causes issues with AI.</p><p> </p><p> Thanks for all of your hard work. I am excited for the update.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="YoungNoble" data-cite="YoungNoble" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First off, let me say I love how complete this mod is... I played my longest game ever taking ECW to 2002 with it. One thing that does take me out of it though, is that a lot of tag teams are not active where they should be. For example Rock n Roll Express, PG-13, and Public Enemy are set to "NONE" for promotion, meaning they are not active when the game starts causing the AI to create a lot of makeshift teams. Not a big deal for the promotion you are running, but causes issues with AI.<p> </p><p> Thanks for all of your hard work. I am excited for the update.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> First off, thanks for the kind words. Playing all the way to 2002 sure is something! <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I'm afraid you misunderstand the tag team situation a bit: it's not my fault. It's a fault with how the game handle tag teams, and you'll see lots of people posting about it in the suggestions/bug forums. The AI simply loves to disregard well-established tag teams with experience, chemistry, similar overness, etc... in favor of new, random teams. I have no clue why.</p><p> </p><p> My teams are set to active though, so they should in theory be used. And I have seen them used, at times. The reason why I set them as "none" instead of having them as promotion specific is that they used those names in more than one promotion, simply - and I want to keep it that way. If I set The Rock N Roll Express to use that name only in WWF, they won't use it anywhere else. The "none" part has no influence on whether or not the AI uses the team, only on the name it uses for them.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First off, thanks for the kind words. Playing all the way to 2002 sure is something! <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> I'm afraid you misunderstand the tag team situation a bit: it's not my fault. It's a fault with how the game handle tag teams, and you'll see lots of people posting about it in the suggestions/bug forums. The AI simply loves to disregard well-established tag teams with experience, chemistry, similar overness, etc... in favor of new, random teams. I have no clue why.</p><p> </p><p> My teams are set to active though, so they should in theory be used. And I have seen them used, at times. The reason why I set them as "none" instead of having them as promotion specific is that they used those names in more than one promotion, simply - and I want to keep it that way. If I set The Rock N Roll Express to use that name only in WWF, they won't use it anywhere else. The "none" part has no influence on whether or not the AI uses the team, only on the name it uses for them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You could always make more than one entry for tat team, one set as none, one for WWF, one for WCW, etc. That way when those two are picked up it makes that team for that promotion.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ping von Erich" data-cite="Ping von Erich" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You could always make more than one entry for tat team, one set as none, one for WWF, one for WCW, etc. That way when those two are picked up it makes that team for that promotion.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have it like that in my 91 database for a lot of teams, but to be honest, it doesn't make much of a difference.</p><p> </p><p> Maybe a slight increase in the use of established teams, but that's it.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BrutalVamp" data-cite="BrutalVamp" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34853" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just downloaded the latest version of this mod and got one error and one warning. Lou Thesz is on a touring contract with UWFi but is not an active worker. Also Jaque Mate is not eligible to hold the NWA World Lightweight Title.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Those unfortunate oversights have already been adressed for the next release, but thanks for reporting them! <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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Has anybody played this mod as long enough to get Nitro on primetime Monday? What the hell do you have to do to get that primetime slot on TNT?! I'm trying all kinds of negotiation techniques and it's just not happening. My guess is you need to be fully international? I'm about 3% low in influence in one region to get there.
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<p>Is it a mistake that D-Von Dudley is in the database as A-Train? I must admit, I've only heard of one A-Train, and that was Matt Bloom <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I had a really hard time finding D-Von. Maybe I'm just ignorant, I dunno, hehe</p>

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